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STRANGE
BEDFELLOWS:
Collaborating with
Developers to Make Great
Places

ECONOMIC AND REAL ESTATE ANALYSIS FOR SUSTAINABLE LAND USE OUTCOMES ™
Strange Bedfellows: Collaborating with Developers to Make Great Places
[Project Name]

October 17, 2014
February 5, 2013

Purpose
• Help public sector planners understand their role in the development process,
in order to best meet the needs of their community.
• Provide public sector planners with the type of information—and where to find
it—that can test their vision for future development.
• Using real-world examples, illustrate these points and identify lessons learned
and how you might be able to apply these lessons in your community.

4WARD PLANNING Inc.

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Strange Bedfellows: Collaborating with Developers to Make Great Places
[Project Name]

October 17, 2014
February 5, 2013

Who we Are
Panel of Experts:
Todd J. Poole, 4ward Planning Inc.
Brandon Palanker, Renaissance Downtowns
Dennis DiPrete, DiPrete Engineering
Steve Durkee, Cornish Associates LP
Jon Reiner, Town of North Kingstown, RI

4WARD PLANNING Inc.

Perspective:
Consultant, land use economics
Developer
Consultant, engineering
Developer / architect
Public sector, planning

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Strange Bedfellows: Collaborating with Developers to Make Great Places
[Project Name]

October 17, 2014
February 5, 2013

Ground Rules
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•
•
•
•
•
•

Listen actively
No one person dominates
Stay on topic
No personal attacks
Stay on time/schedule
Cell phones off or on vibrate
Don’t make assumptions/assume good will

4WARD PLANNING Inc.

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Strange Bedfellows: Collaborating with Developers to Make Great Places
[Project Name]

October 17, 2014
February 5, 2013

Scenario #1: Reynolds Farm
Location:

Commercial Corridor, Suburban Rhode Island

Players:

Local staff, Developer, Local Development Corporation, Planning
Board, Public

Timeline

2001 - ongoing

Local Vision:

Developer bought into town-initiated visioning process

Challenges:

• Lack of sewer
• Zoning
• Adversarial relationship (initially)

Development
Plan:

574 housing units
30,000 sf small scale commercial

4WARD PLANNING Inc.

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Strange Bedfellows: Collaborating with Developers to Make Great Places
[Project Name]

October 17, 2014
February 5, 2013

Scenario #1: Reynolds Farm

Source of Renderings: Union Studio (formerly Donald Powers Architects)
4WARD PLANNING Inc.

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Strange Bedfellows: Collaborating with Developers to Make Great Places
[Project Name]

October 17, 2014
February 5, 2013

Scenario #1: Lessons Learned
•
•
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•
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Have patience
Build relationships all around
Create a vision that is grounded in reality, and stick to it
Developer can help implement the Town’s vision (brings own resources)
Help create champions
Look for solutions that can solve many problems at once
Learn from failure

Status:

4WARD PLANNING Inc.

First phase approved (250 housing units).
Construction begins next month. 
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Strange Bedfellows: Collaborating with Developers to Make Great Places
[Project Name]

October 17, 2014
February 5, 2013

Scenario #2: Westminster Lofts Redevelopment
Location:

Urban, Downtown, Rhode Island

Players:

Developer, City, Legislature

Timeline

Multiple projects over 8 years

Local Vision:

A 1991 charrette created the Downcity Plan which drove the
direction of this project

Challenges:

• Financing
• Regulatory
• Market confidence

Development
Plan:

200 housing units
80,000 sf commercial
600 parking spaces

4WARD PLANNING Inc.

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Strange Bedfellows: Collaborating with Developers to Make Great Places
[Project Name]

October 17, 2014
February 5, 2013

Scenario #2: Westminster Lofts

4WARD PLANNING Inc.

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Strange Bedfellows: Collaborating with Developers to Make Great Places
[Project Name]

October 17, 2014
February 5, 2013

Scenario #2: Lessons Learned
• It is an ongoing process that demands continued maintenance and nurturing.
• It was/is a lot harder and took a lot longer than ever expected to see the
financial growth.

Status:

4WARD PLANNING Inc.

Construction complete
Occupied 
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Strange Bedfellows: Collaborating with Developers to Make Great Places
[Project Name]

October 17, 2014
February 5, 2013

Scenario #3: Downtown Bristol
Location:

Urban, Downtown, Connecticut

Players:

Town, Developer, Advocacy Group (BristolRising)

Timeline

Long-term

Local Vision:

Government struggled to get public buy-in on the Vision

Challenges:

• Loss of significant retail in downtown core (17 acres)
• Already struggling downtown
• Failure to engage owners and residents

Development
Plan:

1,000 residential units
Retail, commercial, hotel, educational facility and entertainment

See also: www.bristolrising.org
4WARD PLANNING Inc.

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Strange Bedfellows: Collaborating with Developers to Make Great Places
[Project Name]

October 17, 2014
February 5, 2013

Scenario #3: Downtown Bristol

4WARD PLANNING Inc.

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Strange Bedfellows: Collaborating with Developers to Make Great Places
[Project Name]

October 17, 2014
February 5, 2013

Scenario #3: Lessons Learned
• Comprehensive redevelopment provides a more clear path toward success.
• Engage Private Property Owners in the process
• Meaningful public dialogue and engagement are critical factors to creating
support.
• Utilize social-networking tools to gain local market insight.
• Crowdsourced Placemaking is a process that reduces the time and cost to
receive bulk approvals for mixed-use projects with a strong residential
component.

Status:

4WARD PLANNING Inc.

Breaking ground in 2013

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Strange Bedfellows: Collaborating with Developers to Make Great Places
[Project Name]

October 17, 2014
February 5, 2013

Scenario #4: South County Commons
Location:

Suburban, Rhode Island

Players:

Town staff, Developer, General Public

Timeline
Local Vision:

Developer waited for, and bought into, town-initiated visioning
process

Challenges:

• Lack of local vision (originally)
• NIMBY

Development
Plan:

100,000 sf retail
450 residential units
100,000 sf office and hotel

4WARD PLANNING Inc.

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Strange Bedfellows: Collaborating with Developers to Make Great Places
[Project Name]

October 17, 2014
February 5, 2013

Scenario #4: South County Commons

4WARD PLANNING Inc.

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Strange Bedfellows: Collaborating with Developers to Make Great Places
[Project Name]

October 17, 2014
February 5, 2013

Scenario #4: Lessons Learned
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•

If it doesn’t work for a developer, the vision is not likely to be implemented. 
Know where to find the expertise to craft a realistic vision. 
Create trust among parties.
Have clear understanding of your role; recognize that it changes over time.

Status:

4WARD PLANNING Inc.

Construction 90% complete

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Strange Bedfellows: Collaborating with Developers to Make Great Places
[Project Name]

October 17, 2014
February 5, 2013

Questions and Discussion

4WARD PLANNING Inc.

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SNEAPA 2013 Thursday c3 1_45_strange bedfellows

  • 1. STRANGE BEDFELLOWS: Collaborating with Developers to Make Great Places ECONOMIC AND REAL ESTATE ANALYSIS FOR SUSTAINABLE LAND USE OUTCOMES ™
  • 2. Strange Bedfellows: Collaborating with Developers to Make Great Places [Project Name] October 17, 2014 February 5, 2013 Purpose • Help public sector planners understand their role in the development process, in order to best meet the needs of their community. • Provide public sector planners with the type of information—and where to find it—that can test their vision for future development. • Using real-world examples, illustrate these points and identify lessons learned and how you might be able to apply these lessons in your community. 4WARD PLANNING Inc. Page 2
  • 3. Strange Bedfellows: Collaborating with Developers to Make Great Places [Project Name] October 17, 2014 February 5, 2013 Who we Are Panel of Experts: Todd J. Poole, 4ward Planning Inc. Brandon Palanker, Renaissance Downtowns Dennis DiPrete, DiPrete Engineering Steve Durkee, Cornish Associates LP Jon Reiner, Town of North Kingstown, RI 4WARD PLANNING Inc. Perspective: Consultant, land use economics Developer Consultant, engineering Developer / architect Public sector, planning Page 3
  • 4. Strange Bedfellows: Collaborating with Developers to Make Great Places [Project Name] October 17, 2014 February 5, 2013 Ground Rules • • • • • • • Listen actively No one person dominates Stay on topic No personal attacks Stay on time/schedule Cell phones off or on vibrate Don’t make assumptions/assume good will 4WARD PLANNING Inc. Page 4
  • 5. Strange Bedfellows: Collaborating with Developers to Make Great Places [Project Name] October 17, 2014 February 5, 2013 Scenario #1: Reynolds Farm Location: Commercial Corridor, Suburban Rhode Island Players: Local staff, Developer, Local Development Corporation, Planning Board, Public Timeline 2001 - ongoing Local Vision: Developer bought into town-initiated visioning process Challenges: • Lack of sewer • Zoning • Adversarial relationship (initially) Development Plan: 574 housing units 30,000 sf small scale commercial 4WARD PLANNING Inc. Page 5
  • 6. Strange Bedfellows: Collaborating with Developers to Make Great Places [Project Name] October 17, 2014 February 5, 2013 Scenario #1: Reynolds Farm Source of Renderings: Union Studio (formerly Donald Powers Architects) 4WARD PLANNING Inc. Page 6
  • 7. Strange Bedfellows: Collaborating with Developers to Make Great Places [Project Name] October 17, 2014 February 5, 2013 Scenario #1: Lessons Learned • • • • • • • Have patience Build relationships all around Create a vision that is grounded in reality, and stick to it Developer can help implement the Town’s vision (brings own resources) Help create champions Look for solutions that can solve many problems at once Learn from failure Status: 4WARD PLANNING Inc. First phase approved (250 housing units). Construction begins next month.  Page 7
  • 8. Strange Bedfellows: Collaborating with Developers to Make Great Places [Project Name] October 17, 2014 February 5, 2013 Scenario #2: Westminster Lofts Redevelopment Location: Urban, Downtown, Rhode Island Players: Developer, City, Legislature Timeline Multiple projects over 8 years Local Vision: A 1991 charrette created the Downcity Plan which drove the direction of this project Challenges: • Financing • Regulatory • Market confidence Development Plan: 200 housing units 80,000 sf commercial 600 parking spaces 4WARD PLANNING Inc. Page 8
  • 9. Strange Bedfellows: Collaborating with Developers to Make Great Places [Project Name] October 17, 2014 February 5, 2013 Scenario #2: Westminster Lofts 4WARD PLANNING Inc. Page 9
  • 10. Strange Bedfellows: Collaborating with Developers to Make Great Places [Project Name] October 17, 2014 February 5, 2013 Scenario #2: Lessons Learned • It is an ongoing process that demands continued maintenance and nurturing. • It was/is a lot harder and took a lot longer than ever expected to see the financial growth. Status: 4WARD PLANNING Inc. Construction complete Occupied  Page 10
  • 11. Strange Bedfellows: Collaborating with Developers to Make Great Places [Project Name] October 17, 2014 February 5, 2013 Scenario #3: Downtown Bristol Location: Urban, Downtown, Connecticut Players: Town, Developer, Advocacy Group (BristolRising) Timeline Long-term Local Vision: Government struggled to get public buy-in on the Vision Challenges: • Loss of significant retail in downtown core (17 acres) • Already struggling downtown • Failure to engage owners and residents Development Plan: 1,000 residential units Retail, commercial, hotel, educational facility and entertainment See also: www.bristolrising.org 4WARD PLANNING Inc. Page 11
  • 12. Strange Bedfellows: Collaborating with Developers to Make Great Places [Project Name] October 17, 2014 February 5, 2013 Scenario #3: Downtown Bristol 4WARD PLANNING Inc. Page 12
  • 13. Strange Bedfellows: Collaborating with Developers to Make Great Places [Project Name] October 17, 2014 February 5, 2013 Scenario #3: Lessons Learned • Comprehensive redevelopment provides a more clear path toward success. • Engage Private Property Owners in the process • Meaningful public dialogue and engagement are critical factors to creating support. • Utilize social-networking tools to gain local market insight. • Crowdsourced Placemaking is a process that reduces the time and cost to receive bulk approvals for mixed-use projects with a strong residential component. Status: 4WARD PLANNING Inc. Breaking ground in 2013 Page 13
  • 14. Strange Bedfellows: Collaborating with Developers to Make Great Places [Project Name] October 17, 2014 February 5, 2013 Scenario #4: South County Commons Location: Suburban, Rhode Island Players: Town staff, Developer, General Public Timeline Local Vision: Developer waited for, and bought into, town-initiated visioning process Challenges: • Lack of local vision (originally) • NIMBY Development Plan: 100,000 sf retail 450 residential units 100,000 sf office and hotel 4WARD PLANNING Inc. Page 14
  • 15. Strange Bedfellows: Collaborating with Developers to Make Great Places [Project Name] October 17, 2014 February 5, 2013 Scenario #4: South County Commons 4WARD PLANNING Inc. Page 15
  • 16. Strange Bedfellows: Collaborating with Developers to Make Great Places [Project Name] October 17, 2014 February 5, 2013 Scenario #4: Lessons Learned • • • • If it doesn’t work for a developer, the vision is not likely to be implemented.  Know where to find the expertise to craft a realistic vision.  Create trust among parties. Have clear understanding of your role; recognize that it changes over time. Status: 4WARD PLANNING Inc. Construction 90% complete Page 16
  • 17. Strange Bedfellows: Collaborating with Developers to Make Great Places [Project Name] October 17, 2014 February 5, 2013 Questions and Discussion 4WARD PLANNING Inc. Page 17