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FRUIT OF THE SPIRITFRUIT OF THE SPIRIT
“Longsuffering”
(macrothumia)
“Long” “Passion”
Galatians 5:22, 23Galatians 5:22, 23
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy,
peace, longsuffering, kindness,
goodness, faithfulness, gentleness,
self-control. Against such there is no
law.
OFTEN IN PERSON-TO-PERSON
RELATIONSHIPS
“Because I don’t
want him to
decide how I am
going to act.”
Longsuffering
Patience & LongsufferingPatience & Longsuffering
• both are to be found in the Christian
– Col. 1:11 “strengthened with all might,
according to His glorious power, for all
patience and longsuffering with joy”
• “patience” (Gk. hupomone)
• “longsuffering” (Gk. makrothumia)
Patience & LongsufferingPatience & Longsuffering
• both are to be found in the Christian
• not exactly equivalent to each other
– “patience” primarily deals with “circumstances”
and “things” (e.g., study, debt, pressing on
through roadblocks, etc.)
– “longsuffering” primarily deals with relationships
(e.g., family, brethren, peers, etc.)
• Eph 4:2, “with all lowliness and gentleness, with
longsuffering, bearing with one another in love”
““Longsuffering” –Modeled By GodLongsuffering” –Modeled By God
• Longsuffering of God’s character
highlighted throughout the Old
Testament:
– “And the LORD passed before him and
proclaimed, ‘The LORD, the LORD God,
merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and
abounding in goodness and truth’” (Ex.
34:6; cf. Neh. 9:17; Ps. 86:15; 103:8; 145:8
Joel 2:13; Jonah 4:2)
““Longsuffering” – Modeled By GodLongsuffering” – Modeled By God
• Longsuffering of God modeled in the
days of Noah
– “who formerly were disobedient, when
once the Divine longsuffering waited in the
days of Noah, while the ark was being
prepared, in which a few, that is, eight
souls, were saved through water” (1 Pet.
3:20)
““Longsuffering” – Modeled By GodLongsuffering” – Modeled By God
• Longsuffering of God modeled in the
days of Noah
– warned the world through Enoch
– named his son “Methuselah”
(Gk. Mathousala, Lk. 3:37) – “when he
dies, there shall be an emission [vis.,
judgment, sjw]” (Strong’s 3103)
– died the year of the flood
– 969 years of longsuffering!
““Longsuffering” – Modeled By GodLongsuffering” – Modeled By God
• Longsuffering during the period of the
Judges
• Longsuffering during the kingdom years
with Israel and Judah
• Longsuffering when the Messiah
suffered
• Longsuffering when evil persecuted the
church (e.g., 1 Tim. 1:12-17)
Why is God Longsuffering?Why is God Longsuffering?
• Repentance (2 Pet. 3:9; cf. Rom. 2:4)
• Salvation (2 Pet. 3:15)
• Imitation (Matt. 18:21-35)
• Judgment – longsuffering didn’t ignore
judgment but temporarily restrained it
(i.e., no sinner has an excuse to chose
hell today)
What About Us?What About Us?
• suffer long with people
• endure difficult people
• accept persecution
• teach with longsuffering
“Preach the word! Be ready in season
and out of season. Convince, rebuke,
exhort, with all longsuffering and
teaching” (2 Tim. 4:2)
What About Us?What About Us?
• Longsuffering:
– in marriage???
– in business meetings???
– in bible discussions???
– driving on the road???
– neighbors
1 Thessalonians 5:14, 151 Thessalonians 5:14, 15
14 Now we exhort you, brethren, warn
those who are unruly, comfort the
fainthearted, uphold the weak, be patient
(Gk. mackrothumeo) with all.
15 See that no one renders evil for evil to
anyone, but always pursue what is good
both for yourselves and for all.
Longsuffering: A Fusion ofLongsuffering: A Fusion of
Patience and PowerPatience and Power
Longsuffering is no longer an everyday
word, but it is a virtue needed more than
ever when impatience, intolerance,
oversensitivity and impulsive anger are so
prevalent.
Those two English words are closely related,
both associated with endurance.
More important and fascinating is learning
about the two corresponding Greek words in
the New Testament.
Longsuffering: A Fusion ofLongsuffering: A Fusion of
Patience and PowerPatience and Power
One Greek word— humpomonee —is translated
"patience" in almost all Bible versions and
implies patient endurance.
The other Greek word is even more interesting.
It is makrothumia, translated "patience" in some
Bible versions but more accurately as
"longsuffering" in others.
Longsuffering: A Fusion of PatienceLongsuffering: A Fusion of Patience
and Powerand Power
The Greek word makro (which gives us the English prefix
macro ) means "large" or "long."
The root word thumos means "temper." Therefore
makrothumia literally means long-tempered, the opposite of
short-tempered or having a short fuse.
Longsuffering: A Fusion of PatienceLongsuffering: A Fusion of Patience
and Powerand Power
Without makrothumia, we human beings tend to
be temperamental —having an irritable
temperament and bad temper.
We tend to "lose patience" and "lose our cool" and
even "blow up" (like an impatiens plant).
Longsuffering: A Fusion of PatienceLongsuffering: A Fusion of Patience
and Powerand Power
We'll focus primarily on makrothumia since it is
the word used in Galatians 5:22But the fruit of
the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering,
gentleness, goodness, faith,
However, please keep in mind how these two
words overlap in meaning and are both
important to our spiritual understanding and
growth.
Longsuffering: A Fusion of PatienceLongsuffering: A Fusion of Patience
and Powerand Power
Longsuffering is virtually the opposite of anger,
especially of "outbursts of wrath"
2 Corinthians 12:20
“For I fear, lest, when I come, I shall not find
you such as I would, and that I shall be found
unto you such as ye would not: lest there be
debates, envyings, wraths, strifes, backbitings,
whisperings, swellings, tumults:”
Longsuffering: A Fusion of PatienceLongsuffering: A Fusion of Patience
and Powerand Power
Paul described the behavior of love:
"Love suffers long and is kind . . . [It] does not behave rudely, does not
seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil" (1 Corinthians 13:4-5 [4]
Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth
not itself, is not puffed up,
[5] Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily
provoked, thinketh no evil;”
The New International Version renders his words this way: "Love is
patient, love is kind . . . It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily
angered, it keeps no record of wrongs."
Longsuffering: A Fusion of PatienceLongsuffering: A Fusion of Patience
and Powerand Power
Our thoughts and attitudes are likewise
important, as they are the source of our actions
and words:
"A good man out of the good treasure of his
heart brings forth good; and an evil man out of
the evil treasure of his heart brings forth evil.
For out of the abundance of the heart his mouth
speaks" (Luke 6:45
Longsuffering: A Fusion of PatienceLongsuffering: A Fusion of Patience
and Powerand Power
Longsuffering: A Fusion of PatienceLongsuffering: A Fusion of Patience
and Powerand Power
Therefore we should honestly examine our
attitudes.
Each of us should ask:
- “Am I motivated by love, respect,
patience and compassion, or am I motivated by
resentment, contempt, intolerance and hardness
of heart?”
"The Lord is gracious and full of compassion, slow
to anger and great in mercy" Psalm 145:8
That's the way He expects us to be!
Longsuffering: A Fusion of PatienceLongsuffering: A Fusion of Patience
and Powerand Power
LongsufferingLongsuffering is a Choiceis a Choice
All over the Bible there are stories of men and women
experiencing trials and tribulations.
The reactions vary from many of them.
• Some grumbled against God because of lack of water
(Exodus 15:24),
• others worshipped God in trials and adversity (Job 1:20),
• others cried out to God in despair (Psalm 18:6), and the list
goes on.
What is important is that we all have a choice.
We get to decide how we are going to act when adversity hits.
We can be patient and wait on God, or we can be impatient and act
on our own accord.
• The men and women from Exodus 15:24 above chose to grumble
and be impatient.
• Job and David from the other two verses mentioned above acted
rightly.
Job fell down and worshipped God in his afflictions.
He remained steadfast and patient through his torment.
• Likewise, David did the same. “In my distress I called upon the
Lord; to my God I cried for help. From His temple He heard my
voice and my cry to Him reached His ears.” (Psalm 18:6)
LongsufferingLongsuffering is a Choiceis a Choice
So, you may be at a fork in the road right now.
Whatever your problem may be, you must make a
decision.
Will you be patient and wait on God, or be impatient
and act on your own will?
LongsufferingLongsuffering is a Choiceis a Choice
Longsuffering is a virtue that will grow with
your experience of being stretched in faith
especially in times of trial.
Longsuffering and eternal lifeLongsuffering and eternal life
When the Bible mentions waiting, patience,
perseverance or longsuffering, it is often in
connection with trusting in God to intervene for us in
our need, as He assuredly will:
"But those who wait on the Lord shall renew their strength;
they shall mount up with wings like eagles, they shall run and
not be weary, they shall walk and not faint" Isaiah 40:31
James 5:7-8 exhorts us:
[7] Therefore be patient [literally, longsuffering ], brethren, until
the coming of the Lord. See how the farmer waits for the precious
fruit of the earth, waiting patiently for it until it receives the early
and latter rain.
[8] "You also be patient. Establish your hearts, for the coming of
the Lord is at hand." GN
Longsuffering and eternal lifeLongsuffering and eternal life
Eccl 7:8 Better is the end of a thing than the
beginning thereof: and the
patient in spirit is better than the proud in
spirit. Col 1:10-12 That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing,
being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of
God; Strengthened with all might, according to his glorious power, unto
all patience and longsuffering with joyfulness; Giving thanks unto
the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance
of the saints in light:
Phil 4:6,7 Be careful (anxious) for nothing; but in every thing by prayer
and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known
unto God. And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall
keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.
2 Peter 1:4-82 Peter 1:4-8
“Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious
promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having
escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust. And beside this,
giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge; And
to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience
godliness; And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness
charity. For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that
ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord
Jesus Christ.”
May we look to the Lord to help us in all areas of our Christian walk.
He has called us by His grace. As we yield to God, we find that He is
more than able to meet our needs and He will continue a good work on
the inside of us. Our confidence must be in the Lord and we must be
yielded to His leading.
Php 1:6
“Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun
a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus
Christ”

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4. Fruit of the Spirit - Longsuffering

  • 1. FRUIT OF THE SPIRITFRUIT OF THE SPIRIT “Longsuffering” (macrothumia) “Long” “Passion”
  • 2. Galatians 5:22, 23Galatians 5:22, 23 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. OFTEN IN PERSON-TO-PERSON RELATIONSHIPS
  • 3. “Because I don’t want him to decide how I am going to act.” Longsuffering
  • 4. Patience & LongsufferingPatience & Longsuffering • both are to be found in the Christian – Col. 1:11 “strengthened with all might, according to His glorious power, for all patience and longsuffering with joy” • “patience” (Gk. hupomone) • “longsuffering” (Gk. makrothumia)
  • 5. Patience & LongsufferingPatience & Longsuffering • both are to be found in the Christian • not exactly equivalent to each other – “patience” primarily deals with “circumstances” and “things” (e.g., study, debt, pressing on through roadblocks, etc.) – “longsuffering” primarily deals with relationships (e.g., family, brethren, peers, etc.) • Eph 4:2, “with all lowliness and gentleness, with longsuffering, bearing with one another in love”
  • 6. ““Longsuffering” –Modeled By GodLongsuffering” –Modeled By God • Longsuffering of God’s character highlighted throughout the Old Testament: – “And the LORD passed before him and proclaimed, ‘The LORD, the LORD God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abounding in goodness and truth’” (Ex. 34:6; cf. Neh. 9:17; Ps. 86:15; 103:8; 145:8 Joel 2:13; Jonah 4:2)
  • 7. ““Longsuffering” – Modeled By GodLongsuffering” – Modeled By God • Longsuffering of God modeled in the days of Noah – “who formerly were disobedient, when once the Divine longsuffering waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water” (1 Pet. 3:20)
  • 8. ““Longsuffering” – Modeled By GodLongsuffering” – Modeled By God • Longsuffering of God modeled in the days of Noah – warned the world through Enoch – named his son “Methuselah” (Gk. Mathousala, Lk. 3:37) – “when he dies, there shall be an emission [vis., judgment, sjw]” (Strong’s 3103) – died the year of the flood – 969 years of longsuffering!
  • 9. ““Longsuffering” – Modeled By GodLongsuffering” – Modeled By God • Longsuffering during the period of the Judges • Longsuffering during the kingdom years with Israel and Judah • Longsuffering when the Messiah suffered • Longsuffering when evil persecuted the church (e.g., 1 Tim. 1:12-17)
  • 10. Why is God Longsuffering?Why is God Longsuffering? • Repentance (2 Pet. 3:9; cf. Rom. 2:4) • Salvation (2 Pet. 3:15) • Imitation (Matt. 18:21-35) • Judgment – longsuffering didn’t ignore judgment but temporarily restrained it (i.e., no sinner has an excuse to chose hell today)
  • 11. What About Us?What About Us? • suffer long with people • endure difficult people • accept persecution • teach with longsuffering “Preach the word! Be ready in season and out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching” (2 Tim. 4:2)
  • 12. What About Us?What About Us? • Longsuffering: – in marriage??? – in business meetings??? – in bible discussions??? – driving on the road??? – neighbors
  • 13. 1 Thessalonians 5:14, 151 Thessalonians 5:14, 15 14 Now we exhort you, brethren, warn those who are unruly, comfort the fainthearted, uphold the weak, be patient (Gk. mackrothumeo) with all. 15 See that no one renders evil for evil to anyone, but always pursue what is good both for yourselves and for all.
  • 14. Longsuffering: A Fusion ofLongsuffering: A Fusion of Patience and PowerPatience and Power Longsuffering is no longer an everyday word, but it is a virtue needed more than ever when impatience, intolerance, oversensitivity and impulsive anger are so prevalent.
  • 15. Those two English words are closely related, both associated with endurance. More important and fascinating is learning about the two corresponding Greek words in the New Testament. Longsuffering: A Fusion ofLongsuffering: A Fusion of Patience and PowerPatience and Power
  • 16. One Greek word— humpomonee —is translated "patience" in almost all Bible versions and implies patient endurance. The other Greek word is even more interesting. It is makrothumia, translated "patience" in some Bible versions but more accurately as "longsuffering" in others. Longsuffering: A Fusion of PatienceLongsuffering: A Fusion of Patience and Powerand Power
  • 17. The Greek word makro (which gives us the English prefix macro ) means "large" or "long." The root word thumos means "temper." Therefore makrothumia literally means long-tempered, the opposite of short-tempered or having a short fuse. Longsuffering: A Fusion of PatienceLongsuffering: A Fusion of Patience and Powerand Power
  • 18. Without makrothumia, we human beings tend to be temperamental —having an irritable temperament and bad temper. We tend to "lose patience" and "lose our cool" and even "blow up" (like an impatiens plant). Longsuffering: A Fusion of PatienceLongsuffering: A Fusion of Patience and Powerand Power
  • 19. We'll focus primarily on makrothumia since it is the word used in Galatians 5:22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, However, please keep in mind how these two words overlap in meaning and are both important to our spiritual understanding and growth. Longsuffering: A Fusion of PatienceLongsuffering: A Fusion of Patience and Powerand Power
  • 20. Longsuffering is virtually the opposite of anger, especially of "outbursts of wrath" 2 Corinthians 12:20 “For I fear, lest, when I come, I shall not find you such as I would, and that I shall be found unto you such as ye would not: lest there be debates, envyings, wraths, strifes, backbitings, whisperings, swellings, tumults:” Longsuffering: A Fusion of PatienceLongsuffering: A Fusion of Patience and Powerand Power
  • 21. Paul described the behavior of love: "Love suffers long and is kind . . . [It] does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil" (1 Corinthians 13:4-5 [4] Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, [5] Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;” The New International Version renders his words this way: "Love is patient, love is kind . . . It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs." Longsuffering: A Fusion of PatienceLongsuffering: A Fusion of Patience and Powerand Power
  • 22. Our thoughts and attitudes are likewise important, as they are the source of our actions and words: "A good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart brings forth evil. For out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks" (Luke 6:45 Longsuffering: A Fusion of PatienceLongsuffering: A Fusion of Patience and Powerand Power
  • 23. Longsuffering: A Fusion of PatienceLongsuffering: A Fusion of Patience and Powerand Power Therefore we should honestly examine our attitudes. Each of us should ask: - “Am I motivated by love, respect, patience and compassion, or am I motivated by resentment, contempt, intolerance and hardness of heart?”
  • 24. "The Lord is gracious and full of compassion, slow to anger and great in mercy" Psalm 145:8 That's the way He expects us to be! Longsuffering: A Fusion of PatienceLongsuffering: A Fusion of Patience and Powerand Power
  • 25. LongsufferingLongsuffering is a Choiceis a Choice All over the Bible there are stories of men and women experiencing trials and tribulations. The reactions vary from many of them. • Some grumbled against God because of lack of water (Exodus 15:24), • others worshipped God in trials and adversity (Job 1:20), • others cried out to God in despair (Psalm 18:6), and the list goes on. What is important is that we all have a choice.
  • 26. We get to decide how we are going to act when adversity hits. We can be patient and wait on God, or we can be impatient and act on our own accord. • The men and women from Exodus 15:24 above chose to grumble and be impatient. • Job and David from the other two verses mentioned above acted rightly. Job fell down and worshipped God in his afflictions. He remained steadfast and patient through his torment. • Likewise, David did the same. “In my distress I called upon the Lord; to my God I cried for help. From His temple He heard my voice and my cry to Him reached His ears.” (Psalm 18:6) LongsufferingLongsuffering is a Choiceis a Choice
  • 27. So, you may be at a fork in the road right now. Whatever your problem may be, you must make a decision. Will you be patient and wait on God, or be impatient and act on your own will? LongsufferingLongsuffering is a Choiceis a Choice Longsuffering is a virtue that will grow with your experience of being stretched in faith especially in times of trial.
  • 28. Longsuffering and eternal lifeLongsuffering and eternal life When the Bible mentions waiting, patience, perseverance or longsuffering, it is often in connection with trusting in God to intervene for us in our need, as He assuredly will: "But those who wait on the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings like eagles, they shall run and not be weary, they shall walk and not faint" Isaiah 40:31
  • 29. James 5:7-8 exhorts us: [7] Therefore be patient [literally, longsuffering ], brethren, until the coming of the Lord. See how the farmer waits for the precious fruit of the earth, waiting patiently for it until it receives the early and latter rain. [8] "You also be patient. Establish your hearts, for the coming of the Lord is at hand." GN Longsuffering and eternal lifeLongsuffering and eternal life
  • 30. Eccl 7:8 Better is the end of a thing than the beginning thereof: and the patient in spirit is better than the proud in spirit. Col 1:10-12 That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God; Strengthened with all might, according to his glorious power, unto all patience and longsuffering with joyfulness; Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light: Phil 4:6,7 Be careful (anxious) for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God. And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.
  • 31. 2 Peter 1:4-82 Peter 1:4-8 “Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust. And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge; And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness; And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity. For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.”
  • 32. May we look to the Lord to help us in all areas of our Christian walk. He has called us by His grace. As we yield to God, we find that He is more than able to meet our needs and He will continue a good work on the inside of us. Our confidence must be in the Lord and we must be yielded to His leading. Php 1:6 “Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ”

Notes de l'éditeur

  1. The word “Longsuffering” is translated from the Greek word “macrothumia” which is really a compound word “macro” (long) and “thumia” (passion/temper). We can easily understand this because we also use clichés in discussing one’s character such as “short-tempered” or “short-fused” which means that he is quick to wrath. Macrothumia is about having a durability in retaining calm and dispassionate when suffering injury.
  2. “ Longsuffering” is the forth in Paul’s listing of the Spirit’s fruit. Like the others listed, it is essential that we know its meaning and apply it in daily living. Longsuffering, kindness, and goodness is involved in our relationships.
  3. A person can choose to remain “cool”. . . A certain man purchased a paper at a newspaper stand from a cantankerous newsman. He greeted the newsman cordially but in returned received the paper being shoved in his face. The customer smiled and gently wished the newsman to have a pleasant weekend. A friend observed how this man had treated him and asked why he was so nice when he had received such rude treatment. He responded, “Because I don’t want him to decide how I am going to act.” Such is the practical application of “Longsuffering.” It is not quick-angered and revengeful, neither is it eternally passive; but it is slow to wrath and long to endure.
  4. hupomone [hoop-om-on-ay’] –sustaining, steadfast makrothumia [mak-roth-oo-mee’-ah] –slowness in avenging wrongs
  5. patience is needed in circumstances longsuffering is needed in relationships
  6. Neh. 9:17, “They refused to obey, And they were not mindful of Your wonders That You did among them. But they hardened their necks, And in their rebellion They appointed a leader To return to their bondage. But You are God, Ready to pardon, Gracious and merciful, Slow to anger, Abundant in kindness, And did not forsake them.” Joel 2:13, “So rend your heart, and not your garments; Return to the LORD your God, For He is gracious and merciful, Slow to anger, and of great kindness; And He relents from doing harm.”
  7. Judges - the cycle of degredation of sin, oppressor, cry out, sent a deliverer -- God always sent a deliverer! Kingdom - hundreds of years of dealing with murderous and idolatrous men Messiah - imagine the restraint that the Father had while seeing his own Son whom he knew and loved before the foundation of the world being tortured by ruthless men. God is one who feels and is aware of even the death of a sparrow, yet he restrained his wrath while his Son was being offered as a holy sacrifice by very unholy men. Many of God's own sons and daughers had suffered injustice and ill treatment, even death. Yet the world remains today. . .the gospel has been allowed to come to you also!
  8. REPENTANCE “ The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.” 2 Pet. 3:9 “ Or do you despise the riches of His goodness, forbearance, and longsuffering, not knowing that the goodness of God leads you to repentance?” (Rom. 2:4) SALVATION “ and consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation—as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you” (2 Pet. 3:15)
  9. marriage - is a pretty large relationship area of our lives is it not? How much longsuffering does that demand? A spouse may say something that may not come out quite like he/she intended. Bear with it. One may want to do something that the other doesn't, use longsuffering. business meetings - while we have peaceful meetings, we still may debate and discuss ideas. If one is shot down, it is not shooting down the person who brought it up, just the idea. At the same time, be longsuffering to listen to the idea regardless of who it is that brought it up. Bible discussions - they can at times even become heated. we must use longsuffering in presenting the truth. Jas 1:19 "So then, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath" Driving on the road can require some serious longsuffering. Neighbors - (e.g., Huntington Beach neighbor)
  10. When a traffic light turns green, some drivers will impatiently honk their horns if the car ahead doesn't start moving within two seconds! No longsuffering there! Even worse is the epidemic of road rage with cursing and actual violence.