How to move beyond dry flies into nymphing and other subsurface flies

How to move beyond dry flies into nymphing and other subsurface flies?

Hi All,

I’ve been doing dry fly fishing for trout so far and want to move into using sub-surface
flies. Since that is somewhat more complicated than dry flies, do you have any
suggestions about how one should proceed? My primary venues are mid-size rivers and
creeks in the wv-va-pa-ny area. If I get a chance in a lake, I’ll try that out too.

In particular, I was wondering about the following things;

1) Is it better to start off with a floating line and then use weighted nymphs? Or should I
get a sink-tip line? According to my understanding, both will allow me to do the same
thing; fish at a depth. Any pros and cons? Since I’m somewhat new to fly fishing, I’d like
to experiment with something that’s not overly complicated, but rather ease into
subsurface fishing.

2) Subsurface flies seem like a recipe for hooks getting snagged at the bottom. Does this
happen a lot to you guys? How do you deal with it? I used to have a lot of issues with my
spinrod snagging the bottom, and I loved this about dry flies that it doesn’t happen.

3) This is not directly related to subsurface flies but fly fishing in general. With the
following setup: a strike indicator, a dry fly and then a nymph tied to the bend of the dry
fly hook; wouldn’t this lead to a lot of tangles while casting? I still get knots when I’m
casting with one fly, so I was thinking this must be really complicated. How has your
experience been?

Fishing nymph flies on floating fly line?

I heard it before but forgot… What can I attach to my floating fly line to make my flies
sink?

What’s the thing that adds more weight. Say if I want to drop a fly down 8 ft?

Also, what is the technique called where you have a dry fly then tied onto that a trailing
wet fly?

Can Flies Lay Eggs In Dry Cat Food?

Now that it’s summer we’ve switched to dry cat food for our adult cat. Flies inevitably
get into the house and are landing on our cat’s dry food. He’s been acting more lethargic
than usual and I was wondering if flies are able to lay eggs in the dry cat food?

How come my dry flies dont float?

I use floating line floating tippet I use materials like deer hair and rooster hackle on my
dry flies but they still sink

What are good methods of fishing for trout other than fly fishing?

I am going to the Hiwassee soon with some friends. They don’t fly fish, and they dont
have enough time to learn. Will they be able to attract trout with a zebco?

What fly fishing flies/methods work best for you in the river you usually fish in, and
whare is it located?

Just seeing what flies and methods work best for you on the river you fish.

need some step by step instructions using dry flies with a spinner reel?

so am going to go out and get some “pistol pete” dry flies. And I’ve got a spinner reel,
and probably wont ever go to a fly rod. So should i work the fly’s like I work my panther
martin spinners? I’m scared that I won’t get much casting distance with how light these
flies must be. any help would be great!

fishing trout with a spinner or a dry fly?

I’m getting interested in trout fishing and I have spoken to some Trout Unlimited guys
and they all swear by dry flies. I myself am just starting and I’ve done a little rooster tail
fishing with some nice catches. Is one more humane than the other as far as catch and
release goes? Also whats a nice fly fishing reel and rod to get as a noob?

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Czech Nymphing – The Essential Fly Fishing Technique

80% of Trout Food is Found on the River Bed or Just Off of It! – so Czech Nymphing is
an Essential Fly Fishing Technique

Czech nymphing was introduced to the UK in the 1990 World Championships. The Czech
team beat the UK International teams on the Welsh River Dee. The Czechs caught
grayling in numbers from places that were thought impossibly fast or deep previously.
This sent shockwaves through the world of competition angling. The technique is today
considered to be pretty much a standard – an essential part of every grayling anglers
armoury.

Firstly, let’s take a look at the flies, the Czech nymph has many, many variations, but all
are based upon one simple design, utilising a heavily-leaded hook. They are intended to
be fished very deep, in fast water, weight & a slim profile are important.

Czech Nymphing Tackle

A 5 or 6-weight rod will be sufficient, 9′ to 10′ is ideal for better control of the flies.
Leader should be of about 9′ in length, NOT tapered as they are counter-productive as
tapered leader won’t sink quickly enough. Just use something like 6lb down to the top
dropper, with 4lb from there down. Use two 5-6″ droppers, one about 18″ above the
point fly, the other about 18″ above that. The true Czech method is to fish the heaviest
nymph on the top dropper, so that it helps carry the other flies down to the correct level.
To help ensure rapid sinking of the flies, degrease the leader. You will be looking for
takes on the end of the flyline, so depending on your eyesight you may wish to use some
sort of bite indicator.

Tactics

The water will be fast, streamy water, normally considered unfishable on the fly,
probably 18″ – 3′ deep. You’ll want to get your flies as near to the bottom as possible.
Do not fish with more than about 3-4′ of flyline outside the tip ring. This is difficult to do,
as the fly fishermans natural tendency is to shoot a bit of line.

This is extremely short range fishing, fish will be close to your rod! Do not cast
conventionally, there is not enough line & the nymphs are far too heavy – the nymphs
that provide the casting weight. Use a flicking action to throw the nymphs upstream at an
angle of about 30 degrees. Done correctly, the ‘flick cast’ will extend the leader so that
the nymphs lie in a straight line upstream. They will immediately start to sink rapidly as
the current brings the flies back down towards you.

To stay in touch with the flies, don’t retrieve any line, just track round with the rod,
raising & lowering the tip as appropriate. Watch your indicator very closely! Any
hesitation, draw, stutter, check – strike it immediately.

Because of the fast nature of the water grayling and trout will have little chance to
closely examine the fly and hit quickly. Fan cast the water ahead of you and, if no action,
take a pace or two upstream & repeat. This is fast fishing, each cast is fished out in 5-10
seconds and you’re straight into the next one, a lightweight rod helps the weary arms.
Often it is often useful to let the flies come down below you and allow them to fish for a
few moments as they come round the bend and onto ‘the dangle’.

Keep the rod tip above the indicator & steadily ‘lean’ downstream, dropping the tip as
you do so. This can be a particularly effective tactic, taking one or two more fish out of
water that has already been worked.

Obviously, with this technique you do not need to restrict yourself to Czech nymphs. The
key is to use heavily-weighted flies, so goldheads, caddis will do just as well. ’Matching
the hatch’ is not a priority with this fishing! This is an active searching method and, as
such, technique is more important than specific pattern.

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Thank you in advance for all your comments, looking forward to reading them and
learning. I’ve received lots of priceless advice here. Cheers!

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