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Irrational Fear of Gastric Cancer:After Billroth II
1. FOLLOW UP EFFECT
• Unbiased Population based studies => Poor Results of RNY
• Positive Results of RNY reported from RNY centers
• Suffer from “Follow Up Effect”
• Patient Returns to clinic doing well: Greeted Warmly with Great Joy
• Patient Returns to clinic doing poorly: Greeted with anger and disapproval
• Successful pt => Good Follow Up / Failed pt tacitly sent away
• Now; Center reports excellent results; (30%) follow up
• Weight Regain, Band Erosion, Death
• Not Seen, Not Reported
2. Irrational Fear of Gastric Cancer:
CHOOSING THE BEST WEIGHT LOSS SURGERY
R Rutledge MD,
The Centers for Laparoscopic Obesity Surgery
www.CLOS.net
Email: DrR@clos.net
3.
4.
5. Dr Rutledge: Training & Background
• Undergrad/Medical School; Teacher
Dr. Lester Dragstedt Pioneer / Inventor of the
Highly Controversial Vagotomy and Pyloroplasty
• 2 Years Cardiac Surgery National Institutes of Health National Heart
Lung Blood Institute
• 20 years University of NC; Professor of Surgery, Associate Chief
of Staff, Director of Section Medical Informatics, Director North
Carolina Trauma Registry
• Author of 93 papers and articles
6. Dr Rutledge: Training & Background
• Specialty: Trauma, Critical Care, Medical Informatics and Bariatric Surgery
(1978-1998 20 years University NC)
• Experience: Trauma Surgery, Director NC Trauma Registry
• Peptic Ulcer Surgery; Vagotomy & Pyloroplasty;
Antrectomy & Billroth II
• Bariatric Surgery 33 years:
Open RNY & Vertical Banded Gastroplasty
• 1997 one first surgeons laparoscopic RNY
• Mini-Gastric Bypass; 14 years, over 6,000 cases
7. Dr. Rutledge
USA 001-702-714-0011 DrR@clos.net
CONSIDERING THE MGB?
MGB IS A SUPERB SURGERY BUT…
WARNING:
“THERE ARE “TRICKS AND TRAPS”
8. OFFER A SAFE & SUCCESSFUL
MGB PROGRAM
• Call / Email: Anytime question or advice on any clinical, technical or
patient MGB question
• USA 001-702-714-0011 DrR@clos.net
• Personal Visit: Dr. Rutledge Visiting Professor: France, Turkey,
Austria & India, Upcoming visits Greece, Istanbul, United Kingdom
Czech Republic, Italy, Germany, UAE, Pakistan,
• Please Use the Knowledge of Others Before You Start;
Experience; over 14 years, over 6,000 patients
• USA 001-702-714-0011 DrR@clos.net
9. Human Decision Making is Flawed
Need for Decision Making Support
Research: Human Decision Making
frequently Flawed & driven by Irrational thinking
Selecting the Best Weight Loss surgery
Should be based on a rational review of the data
Avoid Emotional or Irrational Bias
10. HUMAN DECISION MAKING ERRORS
Recent Research in Psychology and
Neurobiology Shows that:
The Human Brain is a Notoriously
Bad Decision Maker
11. Human Decision Making Errors
Very Common
• Exaggerate Rare Events,
Downplay Common Events
• Underestimate risks taken Willingly, (car)
Overestimate risks Beyond Control (airplane)
• Overestimate risks Talked About
12. Irrational Illogical Thinking
Decision-Making Errors
• Confirmation Bias
(favor information that confirms preconceptions)
• Herd Behavior
(group think override rational)
• “Reptilian Brain”
Amygdala is part "impulsive," primitive system that
triggers emotional override rational thinking
14. THE REPTILIAN BRAIN:
EMOTION & DECISION MAKING
• Rational Logical Thinking:
Frontal Lobe
• Amygdala
Interferes with the Frontal lobe
• Primitive, Impulsive
• Irrational decision-making
15. IRRATIONAL ILLOGICAL THINKING
CONFIRMATION BIAS
• Contrary Evidence =>
Maintains or strengthens
present beliefs
• Overconfidence
in present beliefs
• Poor Decision Making
• Especially Present in
Organizations, Military, Political & Social Groups
16. REPTILIAN BRAIN POOR DECISIONS
FEAR LEADS TO JUDGMENT ERRORS
• Errors in Risk Assessment
• Death Airplane Crash
• Death Car Crash
• 1 in 1,000 patient / 20 years risk of
gastric cancer
• Bowel Obstruction from internal
hernia +16% in 5 years
19. HUMAN DECISION MAKING ERRORS:
EXPECTED, NOT RARE
• Realization of Fallibility
Human Decision Making
• Humility
• Socratic Questioning of
Assumptions
• Search for Logical & Rational
Decision Making
20. THE PROBLEM
• Obesity Epidemic
• History of Failure of Bariatric Surgical
Procedures
• Selecting the “Ideal / BEST”
Bariatric Surgical Procedure
21. Problem Definition:
Bariatric Surgery: A HISTORY OF FAILURE
Procedure Assessment
Jejuno-ileal Bypass (Failure)
Vertical Banded Gastroplasty (Failure)
Lap Band (Fail?)
RNY Bypass (Fail?)
BPD/DS (Fail?)
Sleeve: 1% Leak, 30% GE Reflux, Irreversible,
Weight regain (Fail?)
31. • Fear of Gastric Cancer Bile Reflux
• Rational vs. Reptilian Brain Decision Making
32. STATISTICAL ILLITERACY; "MANY DOCTORS
MISUNDERSTAND MEDICAL LITERATURE"
• Example: “In the absence of a Roux limb,
the long-term effects of chronic alkaline reflux are unknown.”
• REALLY? Rational vs. Reptilian Brain thinking
• Billroth II >100 years and >1,450 papers on Billroth II
• Collins BJ, Miyashita T, Schweitzer M, Magnuson T, Harmon JW., Gastric Bypass;
Why Roux-en-Y? A Review of Experimental Data, Arch Surg. 2007; 142(10):1000-
1003.
34. BARIATRIC SURGEONS FEAR BILLROTH II;
CANCER SURGEONS CHOOSE BILLROTH II
• 1,490 articles on performance of the Billroth II
• General/Trauma/Oncologic surgeons commonly use
the Billroth II
• Over 16,000 Billroth II operation
performed in USA 2007
• While Bariatric Surgeons Fear the Billroth II General
Surgeons use the Billroth II routinely
35. BARIATRIC SURGEONS FEAR BILLROTH II
WHAT IS MAGNITUDE OF THE PROBLEM
• Mayo Clinic Study (Example)
• 338 Billroth II patients
• Followed 25-years
• 5,635 person-years
• Only 2 Cancers in 5,000+ pt years of Follow Up
• Schafer et al, Risk of gastric carcinoma after treatment for benign ulcer disease. N
Engl J Med. 1983 Nov 17;309
36. BARIATRIC SURGEONS FEAR BILLROTH II
MAGNITUDE OF THE PROBLEM
• Population based study, 338 Billroth II pts
• Followed 25-years
• 5,635 person-years
• Only 2 Cancers Found in 5,000 years
• Predicted 2.6 cancers (relative risk 0.8)
Schafer et al, Risk of gastric carcinoma after treatment for benign ulcer disease. N Engl J Med. 1983 Nov
17;309
37. BARIATRIC SURGEONS FEAR BILLROTH II
MAGNITUDE OF THE PROBLEM
• 338 Billroth II pts, Followed 25-years
• 5,635 person-years
• Only 2 Cancers in 5,000 pt years follow up
• RATE of Gastric Cancer is Declining
• 24 - 50% Expected Decrease from 1983
• Future risk ~1 patient / 5,000 pt years
41. RISK OF GASTRIC CANCER AFTER
BILLROTH II IS LOW
• Follow-up study of 1000 patients
• 22-30 year follow-up
• 196 endoscopy and biopsy No Cancer of the gastric
remnant seen
• Endoscopic screening will be “unrewarding”
• Br J Surg. 1983 Sep;70(9):552-4. Risk of gastric cancer after Billroth II resection for
duodenal ulcer. Fischer AB
42.
43. WHAT CAUSES GASTRIC CANCER?
ITS NOT BILLROTH II
• Diets rich in fried, salted, smoked or preserved foods
increased cancer risk in many studies.
• Foods contain nitrites and these chemicals can be converted
to more harmful compounds (carcinogens) by bacteria in the
stomach.
• Diets high in fruit and vegetables protects against Cancer
• Stomach cancer is much more common in smokers and in
those with heavy alcohol intake.
• H. Pylori, No H. Pylori No Cancer
44. DIET AND CANCER PREVENTION
• Avoid ETOH, Tobacco,
Processed & Preserved
Meats, Salt
• RX H. Pylori,
• Eat Fruits and Veggies,
Yogurt and
• Drink Green Tea
•
Gonzalez CA, Cancer Research, Institut Català d'Oncologia, Av. Gran Via s/n, km
2.7, 08907 L'Hospitalet, Barcelona, Spain.
46. CANCER QUIZ: MORE DEADLY
Hot Dog or Mini-Gastric Bypass
AA
• American Institute
for Cancer
Research
• Hot Dog / day
• Increase the risk
cancer 21%
47. UNINFORMED FEAR BILLROTH II
EDUCATED USE BILLROTH II
• 1. Gastric Cancer Declining Rapidly, > 50%
• 2. Gastric Cancer Cause:
Environmental Factors / Easily Prevented
Diet, Lifestyle changes and Rx of H. Pylori
(Avoid Etoh, smoking, processed & salted meats and
foods, seek high intake of fruits and vegetables)
48. UNINFORMED FEAR BILLROTH II
EDUCATED USE BILLROTH II
• 3. Some studies Slight Increased Risk of gastric cancer
after 20 – 30 years (RR 1.5):
But: BII to Rx Ulcer =>
Ulcer => Increased Risk
• (Worried? Rx H Pylori, Eat healthy etc.)
• 4. Many Large Studies: No Increased Risk
Thousands of patients followed for Decades
49. UNINFORMED FEAR BILLROTH II
EDUCATED USE BILLROTH II
• 5. Endoscopic screening of Billroth II patients is Not
Recommended. Why? Low Risk!
• 6. General, Trauma and Oncologic surgeons routinely
use the Billroth II (Thousands of publications)
• 7. 2007 ~16,000 BII procedures were performed in the
USA
50. UNINFORMED FEAR BILLROTH II
EDUCATED USE BILLROTH II
• 8. Billroth II and the Mini-Gastric Bypass
Excellent, Safe and Effective
• 9. FEAR Gastric Cancer?
Avoid ETOH, Tobacco, Processed & Preserved Meats,
Rx H. Pylori,
Eat Fruits and Veggies, Yogurt and Drink Green Tea
• A Billroth II probably makes NO difference
51. • Rational Review of the Data vs.
Fear Gastric Cancer / Bile Reflux
• Rational Thinking vs. Reptilian Brain
52. Rational Data Analysis vs.
Irrational FEAR Gastric Cancer
• 1. Gastric Cancer Declining Rapidly
• 2. GC Environmental Causes; Easily Prevented
• 3. Some studies show Small Increased Risk
Probably from Ulcers / H. Pylori
• 4. Many large studies: NO increased risk
• 5. Endoscopic Screening: Not Recommended
• 6. General, Trauma & Oncologic Surgeons Use Billroth II
53. FEAR OF GASTRIC CANCER
• FEAR gastric cancer?
• Avoid: Alcohol, Tobacco, Processed &
Preserved Meats
Rx: H. Pylori,
Eat Fruits & Veggies, Yogurt and
Drink Green Tea
• Billroth II Probably Makes NO DifferenceBillroth II Probably Makes NO Difference
54. FEAR OF GASTRIC CANCER
A Billroth II Probably
Makes No Difference
55. FEAR OF GASTRIC CANCER
A Billroth II Probably
Makes No Difference
56. C: Consequences / Results / Outcomes
RNY Band SG MGB
1. Low Risk - + - +
2. Major Weight Loss + - - ++
3. Easily performed - - + + +
4. Short operative times - + + +
5. Short hospital stay - - + + +
6. Minimal Blood Loss - + + +
7. No Need for ICU Stay - + + +
8. Minimal Pain - + + +
9. High Patient Satisfaction - - - +
10. A Good "Exit Strategy" - - - + - - +
57. C: Consequences / Results / Outcomes
RNY Band Sleeve MGB
11. Decrease Hunger + - + +
12. Min Vomiting + + + +
13. No Internal hernias - + + +
14. Min Heart/Lung - + + +
15. Low Failure Rate - - - +
16. Low Cost - - - +
17. Short Recovery - + + +
18. Return to Work - + + +
19. Low Risk of PE - + + +
20. Durable Weight Loss - - - +
59. CONCLUSIONS:
Rational Choice: Mini-Gastric Bypass
• Choice of Obesity Surgery?
• Criteria for “Ideal” Weight Loss Surgery
• RNY, Band, Sleeve, MGB
• MGB Best Meets Success Criteria
• Fear of Bile Reflux & Gastric Cancer
Not Supported by the Data
• Rational Decision Making: Best Choice;
Mini-Gastric Bypass
60. WHY CRITICS ONLY CARE FOR MGB?
• Why do Critics only care about the
Mini-Gastric Bypass?
• 100,000’s of people already have and are living with and
are getting the Billroth II every day
• Why haven’t concerned bariatric surgeons stepped
forward to stop all general, trauma and oncologic
surgeons from performing this Billroth II surgery?
61. WHY CRITICS ONLY CARE FOR MGB?
•Why do Critics only care about the
Mini-Gastric Bypass?
•Why haven’t concerned bariatric surgeons stepped
forward to start a fund to help suffering Billroth II patients
get needed conversions of their surgery
to Roux-en-Y?
•Why don’t they write letters to the editor calling for the
Billroth II to be declared a operation non-grata?
62. WHY CRITICS ONLY CARE FOR MGB?
• Why do Critics only care about the
Mini-Gastric Bypass?
• Why haven’t concerned bariatric surgeons stepped
forward to national funding for lifetime endoscopic
screening of Billroth II patients to find dreaded gastric
cancers?
• It seems odd doesn’t it?
• There is a simple reason
63. WHY CRITICS ONLY CARE FOR MGB?
• There is a simple reason
• The critics of the MGB do not do those things because of
Cognitive Biases
• Such actions are Not supported by the data
• The Billroth II and the MGB are both good operations
• Published data Does Not support the critics misreading of
the medical literature
65. Dr Rutledge; USA 001-702-714-0011 DrR@clos.net
ARE YOU CONSIDERING THE MGB?
WARNING:
THERE ARE “TRICKS AND TRAPS”
66. OFFER A SAFE AND SUCCESSFUL
MGB PROGRAM
• Please Call / Email: Anytime question or advice on any clinical,
technical or patient MGB question
• USA 001-702-714-0011 DrR@clos.net
• Personal Visit: Dr Rutledge Visiting Prof: Costa Rica, Turkey,
France, Austria & India, Upcoming visits Greece, Istanbul,
Czech Republic, Italy and Germany
• Please Use the Knowledge of Others Before You Start;
Experience; over 14 years, over 6,000 patients
67. THE TIDE BEGINS TO TURN
TO THE MINI-GASTRIC BYPASS
• “Not too long ago, the bariatric community questioned the
role of the mini-gastric bypass and its appropriateness as a
durable operation for obesity.”
• The experience of Lee et al. with a large cohort suggests
some answers.”
• Michel M. Murr, M.D.
• “The Journal continues to commit to open, spirited, and
balanced discussions that are supported by data and
withstand the test of common sense.”
68. A CLARION CALL FOR BETTER
BARIATRIC SURGERY
• RNY and VBG FAIL to Lengthen Life!
• Bariatric Surgery; A History of Complications &
Failure
• We Need Better Bariatric Surgery
• We Simpler, Safer, More Powerful, More Durable
and Revisable and Reversible
• We Need the MGB
69. MGB, 9 YEARS LATER!
OUT PERFORMS RNY
• Stunning new results of the MGB:
• “Of the 1,322 patients, 23 (1.7%) had undergone
revision surgery during a follow-up of 9 years.”
• Excess weight loss at 5 years after MGB was 72.1%
• No patient had surgery for internal hernia
70. SURVEY: MGB OUT-PERFORMS
BAND & RNY
• Follow up survey of bariatric surgery results in 1,500
patients’ friends, family and acquaintances
• Patient Reported Success in Friends Family:
36% RNY,
24% Band and
93% MGB
71. EXAMPLE FEAR & DECISION MAKING SBO VS.
GASTRIC CANCER
Which is more Deadly?
• Gastric Cancer or Small
Bowel Obstruction?
• Which is more
fearsome?
72. 11+ RNY STUDIES INTERNAL HERNIA
BOWEL OBSTRUCTION
• 1 - 16% Internal Hernia /Small Bowel Obstruction
• Follow Up 1-10 years
(only 7% F/U at 10 years)
• Note: Dead patients cannot return for follow up
• =15/18 patients, ReOp, failed closure USA=
73. DEATH AFTER
SMALL BOWEL OBSTRUCTION
• 877 patients who underwent 1,007 operations for
SBO from 1961 to 1995
• Risk of bowel obstruction increases over time
• 52 Deaths 6% Death Rate
• Ann Surg. 2000 April; 231(4), Complications and Death After Surgical Treatment of
Small Bowel Obstruction A 35-Year Institutional Experience Fevang et.al.,
Department of Surgery, University Hospital, University of Bergen, Norway
74. FEAR AND DECISION MAKING
SBO VS. GASTRIC CANCER
• Which is more Deadly?
• Gastric Cancer or
Small Bowel
Obstruction?
• Which is more
fearsome?
75. FEAR AND DECISION MAKING
SBO VS. GASTRIC CANCER
• 1,000 RNYs, Estimate 20% SBO => 200 operations for
SBO in 5-10 years (? How many more for 20 years?)
76. FEAR?
SBO VS. GASTRIC CANCER
• 1,000 RNYs, 20% SBO => 200 operations for SBO in
5-10 years (? How many for 20 years?)
• 6% Death Rate => 12 dead before the end of 10 years
from SBO
77. FEAR?
SBO VS. GASTRIC CANCER
• 1,000 RNYs, 20% SBO => 200 operations for SBO in
5-10 years (? How many for 20 years?)
• 6% Death Rate => 12 dead before the end of 10 years
from SBO
• 1,000 MGBs After 20 years possibly increased risk of
cancer of 1 / 1,000
78. FEAR?
SBO VS. GASTRIC CANCER
• 1,000 RNYs, 20% SBO => 200 operations for SBO in
5-10 years (? How many for 20 years?)
• 6% Death Rate => 12 dead before the end of 10 years
from SBO
• 1,000 MGBs After 20 years possibly increased risk of
cancer of 1/1,000
• Deaths at 10 years from Gastric Cancer 0.0
79. FEAR?
SBO VS. GASTRIC CANCER
• 1,000 RNYs, 20% SBO => 200 operations for SBO in 5-10
years (? How many for 20 years?)
• 6% Death Rate => 12 dead before the end of 10 years
from SBO
• 1,000 MGBs After 20 years possibly increased risk of
cancer of 1/1,000
• Death at 10 years from Gastric Cancer 0.0
• Death SBO 12/10 years,
Deaths Gastric Cancer 10-20 years 0-1
80. WHICH DO YOU FEAR?
SBO VS. GASTRIC CANCER
• 1,000 RNYs = 200 SBO operations
• Death from RNY SBO 12 deaths / 10 years
• 1,000 MGB’s 0-1 Gastric Cancer @ 20 yrs
• Deaths Gastric Cancer 10-20 years 0-1?
81. FEAR AND DECISION MAKING
SBO VS. GASTRIC CANCER
• Which is more Deadly?
• Gastric Cancer or
Small Bowel
Obstruction?
• Which is more
fearsome?
82. FOLLOW UP EFFECT
• Unbiased Population based studies => Poor Results of RNY
• Positive Results of RNY reported from RNY centers
• Suffer from “Follow Up Effect”
• Patient Returns to clinic doing well: Greeted Warmly with Great Joy
• Patient Returns to clinic doing poorly: Greeted with anger and disapproval
• Successful pt => Good Follow Up / Failed pt tacitly sent away
• Now; Center reports excellent results; (30%) follow up
• Weight Regain, Band Erosion, Death
• Not Seen, Not Reported