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A look behind the scenes: From a Registrar’s
Perspective
Introduction:
Chilliwack Law Courts
Wills Estates and Succession
Act
Passed Third Reading September 24,
2009
 Came into effect March 31, 2014
With Change comes “hick-
ups”
The CONTINUING LEGAL EDUCATION SOLIETY OF BRITISH
COLUMBIA states:
“The new Wills Estates and Succession
Act is a consolidation of long standing
succession laws. It also contains many
new provisions which will take time to
incorporate into a wills and estate practice,
particularly where the courts will need to
interpret the legislative intent.”
With Change comes:
“hick-ups”
“21 days”
Davies Estate
2014 BCSC 1233
With Change comes:
“hick-ups”
JULY 1, 2015
ORDER IN
COUNCIL NO.
332
Top Reasons for Corrections:
 Not proofreading documents
Top Reasons for Corrections:
 Not proofreading documents
 Places left unanswered
Top Reasons for Corrections:
 Not proofreading documents
 Places left unanswered
 “also known as”
PART 1 — INFORMATION ABOUT THE
DECEASED
Full legal name of deceased:
......................................
Other names in which the deceased held
or may have held an interest in property:
1
2
3 etc.
Top Reasons for Corrections:
 Not proofreading documents
 Places left unanswered
 “also known as”
 Wrong Registry
result of “Court shopping”
Top Reasons for Corrections:
 Not proofreading documents
 Places left unanswered
 “also known as”
 Wrong Registry
 Assets & Liabilities
May 4, 2012
Master Baker
“unless a party can demonstrate how the
‘new’ value applies to the time of death,
then the original estimate of value, as
attested to in the first instance, should
apply and no change to the values or
probate fees should occur”
Top Reasons for Corrections:
 Not proofreading documents
 Places left unanswered
 “also known as”
 Wrong Registry
 Assets & Liabilities
 To serve or not to serve
What WESA has done:
 Stream lined the process
 Cut down on misinformation
What the Registrar likes:
 Keep it clean
-delete all instructions
What the Registrar likes:
 Keep it clean
-delete all instructions
-remove all paragraphs that are not
applicable
What the Registrar likes:
 Keep it clean
-delete all instructions
-remove all paragraphs that are not
applicable
-using the latest forms (July 1, 2015)
“Darned if you do and
darned if you don’t”
 Nitpicky: why we are
Play it safe!
 Do as the Registrar asks
Learn the “tricks of the trade” for each
Registry
Play it safe!
 “Our decision is appealable, not
arguable”
Conclusion:
 WESA has been crafted in a way that is
very user friendly
 Find out the process at a Registry and
see if it fits your needs and the needs of
your client
 If there is something out of the ordinary,
or the forms do not give a complete
story, let us know
…and last but not least:
Don’t call
for
status updates!
Questions:(of a non-legal nature)
Wills Estates and Succession Act

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Wills Estates and Succession Act

  • 1. A look behind the scenes: From a Registrar’s Perspective
  • 3. Wills Estates and Succession Act Passed Third Reading September 24, 2009  Came into effect March 31, 2014
  • 4. With Change comes “hick- ups” The CONTINUING LEGAL EDUCATION SOLIETY OF BRITISH COLUMBIA states: “The new Wills Estates and Succession Act is a consolidation of long standing succession laws. It also contains many new provisions which will take time to incorporate into a wills and estate practice, particularly where the courts will need to interpret the legislative intent.”
  • 5. With Change comes: “hick-ups” “21 days” Davies Estate 2014 BCSC 1233
  • 6. With Change comes: “hick-ups” JULY 1, 2015 ORDER IN COUNCIL NO. 332
  • 7. Top Reasons for Corrections:  Not proofreading documents
  • 8. Top Reasons for Corrections:  Not proofreading documents  Places left unanswered
  • 9.
  • 10. Top Reasons for Corrections:  Not proofreading documents  Places left unanswered  “also known as” PART 1 — INFORMATION ABOUT THE DECEASED Full legal name of deceased: ...................................... Other names in which the deceased held or may have held an interest in property: 1 2 3 etc.
  • 11. Top Reasons for Corrections:  Not proofreading documents  Places left unanswered  “also known as”  Wrong Registry result of “Court shopping”
  • 12. Top Reasons for Corrections:  Not proofreading documents  Places left unanswered  “also known as”  Wrong Registry  Assets & Liabilities
  • 13. May 4, 2012 Master Baker “unless a party can demonstrate how the ‘new’ value applies to the time of death, then the original estimate of value, as attested to in the first instance, should apply and no change to the values or probate fees should occur”
  • 14. Top Reasons for Corrections:  Not proofreading documents  Places left unanswered  “also known as”  Wrong Registry  Assets & Liabilities  To serve or not to serve
  • 15. What WESA has done:  Stream lined the process  Cut down on misinformation
  • 16. What the Registrar likes:  Keep it clean -delete all instructions
  • 17. What the Registrar likes:  Keep it clean -delete all instructions -remove all paragraphs that are not applicable
  • 18. What the Registrar likes:  Keep it clean -delete all instructions -remove all paragraphs that are not applicable -using the latest forms (July 1, 2015)
  • 19. “Darned if you do and darned if you don’t”  Nitpicky: why we are
  • 20. Play it safe!  Do as the Registrar asks Learn the “tricks of the trade” for each Registry
  • 21. Play it safe!  “Our decision is appealable, not arguable”
  • 22. Conclusion:  WESA has been crafted in a way that is very user friendly  Find out the process at a Registry and see if it fits your needs and the needs of your client  If there is something out of the ordinary, or the forms do not give a complete story, let us know
  • 23. …and last but not least: Don’t call for status updates!

Notes de l'éditeur

  1. The Chilliwack team
  2. Not my intention to compare the previous Acts and Legislation with WESA
  3. Though there seems to be a differing of opinions within registries it seems to be influenced by delays each court house has (ie-Vancouver / New Westminster months behind so mentality is “what is the difference, by the time we get to it over 21 days will have past)
  4. Address most reasons for rejection…
  5. Lots of spelling error in relation to parties names, dates of wills or when affidavits are sworn, not taking the time to see if your numbers are correct
  6. Note the majority of the issues are clerical
  7. P2 in Appendix A.1 – previous to this it was left to the imagination but now it is required (if the deceased was marriage or what)
  8. Whatever is mentioned in the Submission/Will/Assets and Liabilities need to have a corresponding Will Search
  9. What to do: either reserve or get consents from all parties
  10. Charges against a property…what can be removed
  11. PGT if you serve and there was no need the registry will not grant an estate until you receive the letter from the PGT
  12. 1) Seen by one and approved by one 2) Previous to WESA our common phrase was 80 to 90% of applications get rejected (now it is almost just the opposite)
  13. Funny enough, some law firms that will remain un-named still think a Requisition opens a file
  14. 1) Thinking of the 3rd party who should view the file
  15. Each registry is different (some consider the sale of lands a rush and some don’t) And don’t say, well in Vancouver…they….
  16. If there is an issue in regards to Rules / Statutes, etc. there is a remedy: apply to the Courts (refer to a Master)