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Schizophrenia explored
                                                                 How to define a new strategy in
                                                            Schizophrenia exploring the social media
                                                           landscape and identify patient barriers



                                                    EphMRA, Milano, 5 July 2012

                                                    Stefano Zagnoni
                                                    Digital & Innovation ITALY
                                                    Business intelligence EMEA, Janssen-Cilag SpA

                                                    Robert Dossin
                                                    Global Director Life Sciences and Healthcare, InSites
                                                    Consulting
www.insites-consulting.com

Ghent I Rotterdam I London I Timisoara I New York
Using Social Media,
  helping patients
In this session Janssen and InSites
Consulting will show how using social
media led to new insights for Janssen‟s
Schizophreni team.

This allowed future development of a
website and other communications
material to be optimised, recognising the
social stigma and cultural differences.




                                            2
Objectives
In support of the product launch of
Xeplion and in support for the
schizophrenia24x7.com Janssen‟s
objective is to gain insights in public
discussions on schizophrenia.

The study is mainly focused on
information needs and how to apply this
is in (digital) communications.
3 steps towards a winning strategy




 OBSERVE     UNDERSTAND          ACT


                             4         4
Where does observing fit in?



%   Surveys          Discussions           Observing
                                                ≠ clinical observation




Traditionally used most in         Not yet fully exploited
the pharmaceutical industry         in the pharmaceutical
                                            industry




                                            5                        5
Who has
 experience
    with
observational
 research?
7   3 pillars
2 observational tools to understand patients
   Social Media Netnography   Multimedia Ethnography




                                         8             8
Social media netnography

WHAT?
           Secondary user generated conversations
           Publicly available sources (no login)
           Quantitative AND qualitative - more than buzz monitoring

HOW?
           Relevant conversations on Schizophrenia are scraped
           Analyses with text-mining software and reading



RESULTS?
           Bottom-up analyses – ‘let data speak’
           Top-down analyses
           Emotional context
           Evolution over time

                                                9                     9
Play by the book!

                     Respect key MR principles

                    ESOMAR & BHBIA guidelines

                          PHARMA specific
                      requirements and drug
                     safety/pharmacovigilance

                      Even AGENCY-CLIENT
                       specific processes




                                 10              10
What did we do with

                                we analyzed

                             54 592
                         online conversations
                         about schizophrenia
                        Time scope 01/01/2010-30/11/2011


                             English   French    Spanish     Italian   German
                # conversa
                             18 212    26 184        6 421   1 962     1 813
                tions




                                                11                        11
Schizophrenia
  More negative
discussions than
     in other
therapeutic areas
Schizophrenia: more negative emotions than other TAs
When comparing the results with non mental illnesses (e.g. cancer) , it becomes clear that:
                                                                                                          English
1 Discussions in the schizophrenia universe are more negative
2 Discussions are more emotional
                                                                                                    Sentiment
                                                                                                     [N = 18 212]
     62% positive                                       60% negative
     emotions                                           emotions                                     3
                                                                                                                 3,5

                                                                                                                 2,5
    Reference: 58% in domain of prostate cancer       Reference: 43% in domain of prostate cancer
                                                                                                     2
                                                                                                                 1,5
                                                                                                     1
                                                                                                                 0,5
                                                                                                     0
                                                                                                                 -0,5
                                                                                                     -1
                                                                                                                 -1,5
                                                                                                    -2
                                                                                                                 -2,5
                                                                                                    -3

                                                                                                          -0,4

                                                                                                    Reference: 0.8
                                                                                                     in domain of
                                                                                                       prostate
                                                                                                        cancer
Negative emotions, especially in Spain and Italy
lead to a low sentiment of online conversations.


         English             French        German            Spanish                 Italian
     [N = 18 212]       [N = 26 184]       [N = 1 813]       [N = 6 421]        [N = 1 962]


                 3,5                3,5               3,5                3,5                 3,5
     3                  3                  3                 3                  3
                 2,5                2,5               2,5                2,5                 2,5
     2                  2                  2                 2                  2
                 1,5                1,5               1,5                1,5                 1,5
     1                  1                  1                 1                  1
                 0,5                0,5               0,5                0,5                 0,5
     0                  0                  0                 0                  0
                 -0,5               -0,5              -0,5               -0,5                -0,5
     -1                 -1                 -1                -1                 -1
                 -1,5               -1,5              -1,5               -1,5                -1,5
     -2                 -2                 -2                -2                 -2
                 -2,5               -2,5              -2,5               -2,5                -2,5
     -3                 -3                 -3                -3                 -3

          -0,4                0,2               1,2               -0,7                -2,9
Negative emotions, especially in Spain and Italy lead to
low sentiment.

          % Happiness   % Sadness   % Fear   % Anger   % Disgust




English      51%         40%        29%      31%         7%


French       44%         31%        9%       21%         7%


German       53%         33%        22%      29%         2%


Spanish      59%         50%        41%      49%        30%


Italian      60%         60%        41%      46%         9%
Public
(mis)perceptions
  resulting in a
  social stigma
Schizophrenia: a term with a negative connotation


The label „schizophrenia‟ is considered „scary‟.


         The word schizophrenia prevents our children from being
            accepted. I know it frightened me even before my
                    daughter was diagnosed - ENG



What is schizophrenia associated with?
       Aggression
       Unpredictability
       For ever: incurable and untreatable
       Genetically determined


            You don’t say someone in your family suffers from
         schizophrenia. People think it is a family thing. I feel they
                        look at you differently - SP
What feeds this negative connotation?

                        Critical incidences of people with schizophrenia
                        committing crimes. Patients and caregivers often
                        blame media when mixing „psychopatic‟ with
                        „schizophrenia‟.

                            People do not understand that these crimes
                            are uncommon and not the standard - ENG


                        People without a proper diagnosis, or only a
                        self diagnosis, claiming to be schizophrenic.

                        Incorrect stories about Schizophrenia – usually
                        related to violence / aggressiveness, a dangerous
                        patient.

                        Word of mouth on the above mentioned
                        reasons, increased by fear.


                              It is an invention of a mad society - SP
Consequences of the negative connotation
                             Patients get socially isolated (even social stigma).
This connotation amplifies          Self-isolation in many cases – not feeling comfortable in social
                                    events.
  all negative aspects of
                                    Not invited to social events – not leaving the house for weeks
       schizophrenia,               No meaningful relationship
 undermines chances for
 success and results in a    Professional problems: patients not being able to keep
       social stigma.        a job or find a new job.

                             Practical problems.
                                    E.g. Financial issues and housing problems


                             Self-identification with public image of schizophrenia.

                             Diagnosis becomes even more shocking.

                                     When the doctor said ‘schizophrenia’ I got
                                     goosebumps. That horrible word was like
                                               serving a sentence
Coping mechanism: avoid the stigma

                            Patients and caregivers are secretive about the
An AVOID strategy is very   disease.
       common:
                            Discuss disorder only with a select group of trustees.
       Don’t tell others
                            Discuss indirectly: “someone I know” or “someone told
                            me about...”

                            Reduce severity / importance:
                                talk about isolated crisis time ago,
                                not chronic condition,
                                avoid using the word schizophrenia (but use e.g.
                                depression).

                                  If you get good treatment for your schizophrenia then
                                people cannot see it with the bare eye, so the main issue
                              then is that people already know that you have it... Solution:
                                                      don't tell them!
Caregivers and organisations try to increase awareness




Caregivers (mainly family members and partners), much more than patients, try to actively increase awareness
& by doing so changing the common perception on schizophrenic patients.
              Bumper stickers: “Someone I love has schizophrenia and she is amazing”
              Supporting YouTube Videos
              Sharing blogs from people that are trying to raise awareness
              Petition to change the name schizophrenia to “social integration disorder”

They are supported by several local organisations but feel still isolated.
Both patients & caregivers are strongly affected and negative, but still they are hanging on to all positive
signals
Many
  questions,
 difficult to ask
them due to the
      stigma
Stigma leads to many questions being asked online




                                       They want to talk with fellow patients
                                             in a similar situation.

                                        They want to share experiences
 Patients and caregiver apply the         and get opinions from felllow
 avoid strategy, but they still need               patients.
            information.
                                           They trust fellow patients,
                                       answering on e.g. „Yahoo questions‟,
                                         even more than their own doctor.
Type of questions slightly differ by language

                               English                   French              German                  Spanish                  Italian
                               [N = 18 212]             [N = 26 184]         [N = 1 813]             [N = 6 421]          [N = 1 962]

Schizoph. core symptoms                     65%                        92%               44%                     62%                          87%

Body parts                                 58%         15%                                49%                      72%                 60%

Information                                62%           30%                            34%                      58%             36%

Research                             36%           12%                                  37%                       68%                 52%

Drugs treatments                      47%         6%                                     41%            35%                     31%

Social impact                   28%                13%                            16%                   37%                             64%

HCP                              32%               8%                              27%                  34%                    28%

Causes & Risks                 17%                2%                          10%                          41%                 26%

Other general symptoms          24%               3%                          11%                      29%                     24%

Diagnosis                       23%               1%                          12%                15%                      12%

Comorbidity                    21%                2%                         6%                      21%                  7%

Trigger conditions         10%                    2%                         7%                  16%                     6%

Treatment                  12%                    4%                         6%                  11%                     6%

Organizations             2%                      6%                         2%                 10%                      3%

Pharmacompanies           1%                      5%                          9%                4%                       1%

Drugs side effects        1%                      1%                         2%                 5%                        8%

Disorder stages           4%                      1%                         5%                 5%                       2%
Social media netnography: benefits


Access to highly involved patient
and difficult topics
Many conversations
Most on relevant topics
Ideal to explore new
TAs/topics/countries

                               25      25
Social media netnography: limitations



Less of the uninvolved
patient
No probing
Only what is relevant for them
Internet has no boundaries

                               26         26
Multimedia ethnography

WHAT?
           Follow a selection of patients.
           Step into the patient’s shoes.
           Experience their condition as they do

HOW?
           Patients receive a camera
           Online, through a blog, created for the study
           and commenting tools
           During a longer period of time (> 1 week)
RESULTS?
           Insights embedded in real-life situations
           Visualized context (photos, movies...)
           Emotionally enriched evidence


                                                           27
Insights are important,
and so is internal involvement




                                 28
Multimedia ethnography: benefits


Be part of daily life & context
Looking through their eyes
Longer time span allows for
richer feedback
Sample can be controlled
and probing is possible
Less intrusive
                                     29
Conclusions
In Summary



         Conversations on schizophrenia reflect more negative
         emotions than other therapeutic areas


         Public (mis)perceptions on schizophrenia leading to
         social isolation



         Huge patient barriers to ask their questions to HCPs
How did Janssen use this to support patients & caregivers




                             Knowing schizo symptoms is one thing, experiencing it
                              is the other. If you think this is what it’s like, then I’m
                                  sure you do not have Paranoid schizophrenia!




                              I have this.. I'm being serious, it started a while ago
                              and it was scary. I was in denial but this pretty much
                                                 just confirmed it.
Leverage Digital Channel


     Enhance Schizophrenia 24x7.com portal to:


 1   Help Patient and caregivers to remove the stigma


 2   Facilitate discussion with other patients/caregivers


 3   Support to increase compliance
Patient needs
      Where does
schizophrenia24x7 fit in?
Help patients and caregivers
remove the stigma

Support what they share
Facilitate discussions with
other patients and caregivers

Good example: psoriasis360
Observational
research now part of
     the jigsaw

Janssen is now very open to the options
that this route can uncover – these
methodologies are now integrated in our
methodology portfolio!




                                          37
Questions ?
Contact Details

Stefano Zagnoni
Digital & Innovation ITALY
Business intelligence EMEA, Janssen-Cilag SpA
szagnoni@its.jnj.com
Tel +39 02 25101



Robert Dossin
Global Director Life Sciences and Healthcare
Robert.Dossin@insites-consulting.com
T. +442078702579
M. + 447904288898
Follow me on twitter: @robert_dossin




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                        London, NW1 3BT
                        United Kingdom

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Fact sheet
   Spin-off of top-ranked business school
   15 years of experience and know-how
   Pioneer and innovator in online methods
   Covering any marketing domain
   Fully independent
   Ghent, Rotterdam, London, Timisoara, New York
   125 passionate employees
   Proprietary research panel in +25 countries
   Most awarded agency by ESOMAR

        Including ESOMAR Young Researcher‟s Award with a health paper on
ageing (Annelies Verhaeghe, 2010) and an ESOMAR Best Paper Nomination
with a paper co-presented with UCB at the ESOMAR Health in NY 2010.
Our customers in the healthcare industry
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Understanding patient barriers through social media insights

  • 1. Schizophrenia explored How to define a new strategy in Schizophrenia exploring the social media landscape and identify patient barriers EphMRA, Milano, 5 July 2012 Stefano Zagnoni Digital & Innovation ITALY Business intelligence EMEA, Janssen-Cilag SpA Robert Dossin Global Director Life Sciences and Healthcare, InSites Consulting www.insites-consulting.com Ghent I Rotterdam I London I Timisoara I New York
  • 2. Using Social Media, helping patients In this session Janssen and InSites Consulting will show how using social media led to new insights for Janssen‟s Schizophreni team. This allowed future development of a website and other communications material to be optimised, recognising the social stigma and cultural differences. 2
  • 3. Objectives In support of the product launch of Xeplion and in support for the schizophrenia24x7.com Janssen‟s objective is to gain insights in public discussions on schizophrenia. The study is mainly focused on information needs and how to apply this is in (digital) communications.
  • 4. 3 steps towards a winning strategy OBSERVE UNDERSTAND ACT 4 4
  • 5. Where does observing fit in? % Surveys Discussions Observing ≠ clinical observation Traditionally used most in Not yet fully exploited the pharmaceutical industry in the pharmaceutical industry 5 5
  • 6. Who has experience with observational research?
  • 7. 7 3 pillars
  • 8. 2 observational tools to understand patients Social Media Netnography Multimedia Ethnography 8 8
  • 9. Social media netnography WHAT? Secondary user generated conversations Publicly available sources (no login) Quantitative AND qualitative - more than buzz monitoring HOW? Relevant conversations on Schizophrenia are scraped Analyses with text-mining software and reading RESULTS? Bottom-up analyses – ‘let data speak’ Top-down analyses Emotional context Evolution over time 9 9
  • 10. Play by the book! Respect key MR principles ESOMAR & BHBIA guidelines PHARMA specific requirements and drug safety/pharmacovigilance Even AGENCY-CLIENT specific processes 10 10
  • 11. What did we do with we analyzed 54 592 online conversations about schizophrenia Time scope 01/01/2010-30/11/2011 English French Spanish Italian German # conversa 18 212 26 184 6 421 1 962 1 813 tions 11 11
  • 12. Schizophrenia More negative discussions than in other therapeutic areas
  • 13. Schizophrenia: more negative emotions than other TAs When comparing the results with non mental illnesses (e.g. cancer) , it becomes clear that: English 1 Discussions in the schizophrenia universe are more negative 2 Discussions are more emotional Sentiment [N = 18 212] 62% positive 60% negative emotions emotions 3 3,5 2,5 Reference: 58% in domain of prostate cancer Reference: 43% in domain of prostate cancer 2 1,5 1 0,5 0 -0,5 -1 -1,5 -2 -2,5 -3 -0,4 Reference: 0.8 in domain of prostate cancer
  • 14. Negative emotions, especially in Spain and Italy lead to a low sentiment of online conversations. English French German Spanish Italian [N = 18 212] [N = 26 184] [N = 1 813] [N = 6 421] [N = 1 962] 3,5 3,5 3,5 3,5 3,5 3 3 3 3 3 2,5 2,5 2,5 2,5 2,5 2 2 2 2 2 1,5 1,5 1,5 1,5 1,5 1 1 1 1 1 0,5 0,5 0,5 0,5 0,5 0 0 0 0 0 -0,5 -0,5 -0,5 -0,5 -0,5 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1,5 -1,5 -1,5 -1,5 -1,5 -2 -2 -2 -2 -2 -2,5 -2,5 -2,5 -2,5 -2,5 -3 -3 -3 -3 -3 -0,4 0,2 1,2 -0,7 -2,9
  • 15. Negative emotions, especially in Spain and Italy lead to low sentiment. % Happiness % Sadness % Fear % Anger % Disgust English 51% 40% 29% 31% 7% French 44% 31% 9% 21% 7% German 53% 33% 22% 29% 2% Spanish 59% 50% 41% 49% 30% Italian 60% 60% 41% 46% 9%
  • 16. Public (mis)perceptions resulting in a social stigma
  • 17. Schizophrenia: a term with a negative connotation The label „schizophrenia‟ is considered „scary‟. The word schizophrenia prevents our children from being accepted. I know it frightened me even before my daughter was diagnosed - ENG What is schizophrenia associated with? Aggression Unpredictability For ever: incurable and untreatable Genetically determined You don’t say someone in your family suffers from schizophrenia. People think it is a family thing. I feel they look at you differently - SP
  • 18. What feeds this negative connotation? Critical incidences of people with schizophrenia committing crimes. Patients and caregivers often blame media when mixing „psychopatic‟ with „schizophrenia‟. People do not understand that these crimes are uncommon and not the standard - ENG People without a proper diagnosis, or only a self diagnosis, claiming to be schizophrenic. Incorrect stories about Schizophrenia – usually related to violence / aggressiveness, a dangerous patient. Word of mouth on the above mentioned reasons, increased by fear. It is an invention of a mad society - SP
  • 19. Consequences of the negative connotation Patients get socially isolated (even social stigma). This connotation amplifies Self-isolation in many cases – not feeling comfortable in social events. all negative aspects of Not invited to social events – not leaving the house for weeks schizophrenia, No meaningful relationship undermines chances for success and results in a Professional problems: patients not being able to keep social stigma. a job or find a new job. Practical problems. E.g. Financial issues and housing problems Self-identification with public image of schizophrenia. Diagnosis becomes even more shocking. When the doctor said ‘schizophrenia’ I got goosebumps. That horrible word was like serving a sentence
  • 20. Coping mechanism: avoid the stigma Patients and caregivers are secretive about the An AVOID strategy is very disease. common: Discuss disorder only with a select group of trustees. Don’t tell others Discuss indirectly: “someone I know” or “someone told me about...” Reduce severity / importance: talk about isolated crisis time ago, not chronic condition, avoid using the word schizophrenia (but use e.g. depression). If you get good treatment for your schizophrenia then people cannot see it with the bare eye, so the main issue then is that people already know that you have it... Solution: don't tell them!
  • 21. Caregivers and organisations try to increase awareness Caregivers (mainly family members and partners), much more than patients, try to actively increase awareness & by doing so changing the common perception on schizophrenic patients. Bumper stickers: “Someone I love has schizophrenia and she is amazing” Supporting YouTube Videos Sharing blogs from people that are trying to raise awareness Petition to change the name schizophrenia to “social integration disorder” They are supported by several local organisations but feel still isolated. Both patients & caregivers are strongly affected and negative, but still they are hanging on to all positive signals
  • 22. Many questions, difficult to ask them due to the stigma
  • 23. Stigma leads to many questions being asked online They want to talk with fellow patients in a similar situation. They want to share experiences Patients and caregiver apply the and get opinions from felllow avoid strategy, but they still need patients. information. They trust fellow patients, answering on e.g. „Yahoo questions‟, even more than their own doctor.
  • 24. Type of questions slightly differ by language English French German Spanish Italian [N = 18 212] [N = 26 184] [N = 1 813] [N = 6 421] [N = 1 962] Schizoph. core symptoms 65% 92% 44% 62% 87% Body parts 58% 15% 49% 72% 60% Information 62% 30% 34% 58% 36% Research 36% 12% 37% 68% 52% Drugs treatments 47% 6% 41% 35% 31% Social impact 28% 13% 16% 37% 64% HCP 32% 8% 27% 34% 28% Causes & Risks 17% 2% 10% 41% 26% Other general symptoms 24% 3% 11% 29% 24% Diagnosis 23% 1% 12% 15% 12% Comorbidity 21% 2% 6% 21% 7% Trigger conditions 10% 2% 7% 16% 6% Treatment 12% 4% 6% 11% 6% Organizations 2% 6% 2% 10% 3% Pharmacompanies 1% 5% 9% 4% 1% Drugs side effects 1% 1% 2% 5% 8% Disorder stages 4% 1% 5% 5% 2%
  • 25. Social media netnography: benefits Access to highly involved patient and difficult topics Many conversations Most on relevant topics Ideal to explore new TAs/topics/countries 25 25
  • 26. Social media netnography: limitations Less of the uninvolved patient No probing Only what is relevant for them Internet has no boundaries 26 26
  • 27. Multimedia ethnography WHAT? Follow a selection of patients. Step into the patient’s shoes. Experience their condition as they do HOW? Patients receive a camera Online, through a blog, created for the study and commenting tools During a longer period of time (> 1 week) RESULTS? Insights embedded in real-life situations Visualized context (photos, movies...) Emotionally enriched evidence 27
  • 28. Insights are important, and so is internal involvement 28
  • 29. Multimedia ethnography: benefits Be part of daily life & context Looking through their eyes Longer time span allows for richer feedback Sample can be controlled and probing is possible Less intrusive 29
  • 31. In Summary Conversations on schizophrenia reflect more negative emotions than other therapeutic areas Public (mis)perceptions on schizophrenia leading to social isolation Huge patient barriers to ask their questions to HCPs
  • 32. How did Janssen use this to support patients & caregivers Knowing schizo symptoms is one thing, experiencing it is the other. If you think this is what it’s like, then I’m sure you do not have Paranoid schizophrenia! I have this.. I'm being serious, it started a while ago and it was scary. I was in denial but this pretty much just confirmed it.
  • 33. Leverage Digital Channel Enhance Schizophrenia 24x7.com portal to: 1 Help Patient and caregivers to remove the stigma 2 Facilitate discussion with other patients/caregivers 3 Support to increase compliance
  • 34. Patient needs Where does schizophrenia24x7 fit in?
  • 35. Help patients and caregivers remove the stigma Support what they share
  • 36. Facilitate discussions with other patients and caregivers Good example: psoriasis360
  • 37. Observational research now part of the jigsaw Janssen is now very open to the options that this route can uncover – these methodologies are now integrated in our methodology portfolio! 37
  • 39. Contact Details Stefano Zagnoni Digital & Innovation ITALY Business intelligence EMEA, Janssen-Cilag SpA szagnoni@its.jnj.com Tel +39 02 25101 Robert Dossin Global Director Life Sciences and Healthcare Robert.Dossin@insites-consulting.com T. +442078702579 M. + 447904288898 Follow me on twitter: @robert_dossin InSites Consulting London office 338 Euston Road London, NW1 3BT United Kingdom Other offices Ghent | Rotterdam | Timisoara | New York info@insites-consulting.com www.insites-consulting.com
  • 40. Fact sheet  Spin-off of top-ranked business school  15 years of experience and know-how  Pioneer and innovator in online methods  Covering any marketing domain  Fully independent  Ghent, Rotterdam, London, Timisoara, New York  125 passionate employees  Proprietary research panel in +25 countries  Most awarded agency by ESOMAR Including ESOMAR Young Researcher‟s Award with a health paper on ageing (Annelies Verhaeghe, 2010) and an ESOMAR Best Paper Nomination with a paper co-presented with UCB at the ESOMAR Health in NY 2010.
  • 41. Our customers in the healthcare industry
  • 42. Facilitate discussions with other patients and caregivers Obey the Conversation rules Open Personal Honest Engagement Listen Ask questions