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Interview with: Don Chapin, CELA,
President, National Eligibility
Solutions
Many long-term care (LTC) facilities
are now turning down Medicaid pending
cases, but when 80 percent of the
population is middle class and could fall
into that group, it does not make
business sense to do so, says Don
Chapin, CELA, President, National
Eligibility Solutions (NES). Nursing
homes have to maintain their payments
without interruption, and without relying
on the families of residents or the
government, he adds.
A healthcare consulting firm, NES is a
solution provider at the marcus evans
Long-Term Care CXO Summit Fall
2013, in Palm Beach, Florida, July
25-26.
What are the challenges on the
financial side of the LTC business?
The government is lowering Medicare
and Medicaid reimbursement for LTC
services while regulations are becoming
far more complex. Facilities get paid
when residents are insured, can afford
private pay or are on Medicaid, but for
80 percent of residents who are middle
class, they cannot determine how they
will get paid for their services.
If the resident does not have savings or
LTC insurance, which only about eight
percent of people do, Medicare and
Medicaid are the only options left. For
LTC, Medicare is limited to 20 days if
there is a rehab, with a maximum of 80
additional days. These Medicare days
are accessible if the patient is admitted
to the hospital for three billing periods
and on an inpatient status. However,
nobody will have this information until
the patient gets to the nursing home.
How could facilities ensure they get
paid for services?
They need access to real time
information to understand how they can
get paid for the newly entered resident.
How many weeks of private pay can
they afford? Are they insured? How
were they admitted to the hospital? Is
Medicaid available once private pay is
exhausted? If the family gave the house
away to a church or university
endowment, it will be penalized from
Medicaid.
No matter the length of stay or level of
wealth of residents, nursing homes
must make sure they will get paid. NES
is able to provide the knowledge base
facilities need, with state-by-state
information on the rules and
regulations, and help with what
questions admissions officers need to
ask.
Does this require a culture change?
How would this guarantee the long-
term viability of the business?
The current culture in nursing homes is
to wait and wait until the family reports
that there is no money left and
someone gives them a Medicaid
application.
When the nursing home does that, it is
essentially delegating its cash flow, the
lifeblood of its business, to a family who
knows nothing about the system and is
afraid of the Medicaid officer. The
application is likely to be delayed and
even denied several times before they
get it right. In the meantime, the
nursing home has a bad debt of three to
four months because of that.
They must apply for Medicaid in the first
weeks of residency, which requires a
culture change in the nursing home.
They care about residents’ dentures and
hearing aids, but not about payment
issues. It is not in the mentality of care
workers to ask tough questions, but
they should.
Medicaid pending cases are a big
liability for nursing homes. Addressing
the issue would have a very positive
financial impact, increasing the
profitability of the facility.
Medicaid
pending
cases
are a big
liability
for
nursing
homes
Increasing the Profitability of LTC Facilities
marcus evans Summits deliver
peer-to-peer information on
strategic matters, professional
t r e n d s a n d b r e a k t h r o u g h
innovations.
Please note that the Summit is a
closed business event and the
number of participants strictly
limited.
About the Long-Term Care CXO Summit Fall 2013
This unique forum will take place at The Ritz-Carlton, Palm Beach, Florida, July
25-26, 2013. Offering much more than any conference, exhibition or trade show,
this exclusive meeting will bring together esteemed industry thought leaders and
solution providers to a highly focused and interactive networking event.
www.longtermcaresummit.com
Contact
Sarin Kouyoumdjian-Gurunlian, Press Manager, marcus evans, Summits
Division
Tel: + 357 22 849 313
Email: press@marcusevanscy.com
For more information please send an email to info@marcusevanscy.com
All rights reserved. The above content may be republished or reproduced. Kindly
inform us by sending an email to press@marcusevanscy.com
About National Eligibility Solutions
National Eligibility Solutions, LLC (NES) is a national health care consulting firm assisting the long term care industry by helping
each nursing home facility make sure they will be paid for each resident. NES operates in all 50 states. We educate and empower
local BOM’s to be more effective. We handle case referrals for Medicaid eligibility which raises census and reduces Medicaid Pending
cases.
www.TrustNES.com
About marcus evans Summits
marcus evans Summits are high level business forums for the world’s leading decision-makers to meet, learn and discuss
strategies and solutions. Held at exclusive locations around the world, these events provide attendees with a unique opportunity to
individually tailor their schedules of keynote presentations, case studies, roundtables and one-on-one business meetings.
For more information, please visit: www.marcusevans.com
Upcoming Events
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Long Term Care CXO Summit Fall 2013 - Interview with: Don Chapin, CELA, President, National Eligibility Solutions

  • 1. Interview with: Don Chapin, CELA, President, National Eligibility Solutions Many long-term care (LTC) facilities are now turning down Medicaid pending cases, but when 80 percent of the population is middle class and could fall into that group, it does not make business sense to do so, says Don Chapin, CELA, President, National Eligibility Solutions (NES). Nursing homes have to maintain their payments without interruption, and without relying on the families of residents or the government, he adds. A healthcare consulting firm, NES is a solution provider at the marcus evans Long-Term Care CXO Summit Fall 2013, in Palm Beach, Florida, July 25-26. What are the challenges on the financial side of the LTC business? The government is lowering Medicare and Medicaid reimbursement for LTC services while regulations are becoming far more complex. Facilities get paid when residents are insured, can afford private pay or are on Medicaid, but for 80 percent of residents who are middle class, they cannot determine how they will get paid for their services. If the resident does not have savings or LTC insurance, which only about eight percent of people do, Medicare and Medicaid are the only options left. For LTC, Medicare is limited to 20 days if there is a rehab, with a maximum of 80 additional days. These Medicare days are accessible if the patient is admitted to the hospital for three billing periods and on an inpatient status. However, nobody will have this information until the patient gets to the nursing home. How could facilities ensure they get paid for services? They need access to real time information to understand how they can get paid for the newly entered resident. How many weeks of private pay can they afford? Are they insured? How were they admitted to the hospital? Is Medicaid available once private pay is exhausted? If the family gave the house away to a church or university endowment, it will be penalized from Medicaid. No matter the length of stay or level of wealth of residents, nursing homes must make sure they will get paid. NES is able to provide the knowledge base facilities need, with state-by-state information on the rules and regulations, and help with what questions admissions officers need to ask. Does this require a culture change? How would this guarantee the long- term viability of the business? The current culture in nursing homes is to wait and wait until the family reports that there is no money left and someone gives them a Medicaid application. When the nursing home does that, it is essentially delegating its cash flow, the lifeblood of its business, to a family who knows nothing about the system and is afraid of the Medicaid officer. The application is likely to be delayed and even denied several times before they get it right. In the meantime, the nursing home has a bad debt of three to four months because of that. They must apply for Medicaid in the first weeks of residency, which requires a culture change in the nursing home. They care about residents’ dentures and hearing aids, but not about payment issues. It is not in the mentality of care workers to ask tough questions, but they should. Medicaid pending cases are a big liability for nursing homes. Addressing the issue would have a very positive financial impact, increasing the profitability of the facility. Medicaid pending cases are a big liability for nursing homes Increasing the Profitability of LTC Facilities
  • 2. marcus evans Summits deliver peer-to-peer information on strategic matters, professional t r e n d s a n d b r e a k t h r o u g h innovations. Please note that the Summit is a closed business event and the number of participants strictly limited. About the Long-Term Care CXO Summit Fall 2013 This unique forum will take place at The Ritz-Carlton, Palm Beach, Florida, July 25-26, 2013. Offering much more than any conference, exhibition or trade show, this exclusive meeting will bring together esteemed industry thought leaders and solution providers to a highly focused and interactive networking event. www.longtermcaresummit.com Contact Sarin Kouyoumdjian-Gurunlian, Press Manager, marcus evans, Summits Division Tel: + 357 22 849 313 Email: press@marcusevanscy.com For more information please send an email to info@marcusevanscy.com All rights reserved. The above content may be republished or reproduced. Kindly inform us by sending an email to press@marcusevanscy.com About National Eligibility Solutions National Eligibility Solutions, LLC (NES) is a national health care consulting firm assisting the long term care industry by helping each nursing home facility make sure they will be paid for each resident. NES operates in all 50 states. We educate and empower local BOM’s to be more effective. We handle case referrals for Medicaid eligibility which raises census and reduces Medicaid Pending cases. www.TrustNES.com About marcus evans Summits marcus evans Summits are high level business forums for the world’s leading decision-makers to meet, learn and discuss strategies and solutions. Held at exclusive locations around the world, these events provide attendees with a unique opportunity to individually tailor their schedules of keynote presentations, case studies, roundtables and one-on-one business meetings. For more information, please visit: www.marcusevans.com Upcoming Events National Healthcare CFO Summit - www.nhcfosummit.com National Healthcare CNO Summit - www.nhcnosummit.com National Healthcare CXO Summit - www.nhcxosummit.com To view the web version of this interview, please click here: www.longtermcaresummit.com/DonChapin