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Tuesday, September 6, 2011

Note Data and transcript from HashTracking.com.


                         #CHSOCM HashTracking.com Report




623 tweets generated 1,352,386 impressions, reaching an audience of 119,584 followers within the
past 24 hours| Generated Tues Sep 06 2011 22:35:40 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)


Top 10 by number of impressions                    Top 10 by number of tweets
1. paulsteinbrueck: 512,400                        1. meredithgould: 66
2. meredithgould: 248,556                          2. chsocm: 40
3. drothamel: 186,714                              3. naaho: 34
4. iamepiscopalian: 117,390                        4. denise205: 31
5. denise205: 36,115                               5. mgoins: 29
6. rampracer: 24,739                               6. rchrdbott: 27
7. jkcallas: 18,124                                7. mirgray: 25
8. rev_david: 17,358                               8. drothamel: 23
9. revrevwine: 15,903                              9. klamach: 22
10. mgoins: 14,094                                 10. rev_david: 22




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chsocm: Welcome to our weekly church and social media () chat, especially folks joining us for the first
time!

RevWeb: RT : Welcome to our weekly church and social media () chat, especially folks joining us for the
first time!

SteveCassady: Great Activity! :) RT @paulsteinbrueck: 1 minute until #getrealchat and . Time for extreme
tweet chat multitasking! #getrealchat

chsocm: If this is your first tweetchat ever, please do not get discouraged by the pace!

chsocm: A transcript will be available in 2 forms by tomorrow morning here: http://bit.ly/pTDoAb

paulsteinbrueck: is a weekly twitter chat about church & social media:
http://tweetchat.com/room/chsocm

klamach: @FrPaulofLynn Church and Social Media discussion follow hashtag

chsocm: We’ll get started in a minute with self-introductions, but as ever, we start with prayer.

Denise205: Hello friends!

chsocm: Almighty & merciful God, we rejoice in your abiding presence everywhere & at all times.

naaho: RT : A transcript will be available in 2 forms by tomorrow morning here: http://bit.ly/pTDoAb

chsocm: We give you thanks for this opportunity to share experience & inquiry anchored in faith.

chsocm: We ask your Holy Spirit to inspire tonight’s conversation & guide us as we move forward in love &
service. Amen.

tijuanabecky: Hi @Denise205 @naaho @klamach!

iamepiscopalian: Amen, amen.

paulsteinbrueck: Amen!

klamach: Checking into chat, hello all new and old!

chsocm: Next up: self-introductions. In addition to your church affiliation, please let everyone how you
currently use social media

pinkpaddler: Christ Episcopal, Dover DE, SM evangelist wannabe (and webmaster)

drothamel: My name is Daniel, I'm a Methodist, and I've been doing the social media thing since '05.

chsocm: We will assume tweets during this chat yours & do not represent your church or organization

mirgray: Lay person. Lutheran mostly. Canadian. Using it mostly to pull information into the community
and remind them of mission fields.

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penelopepiscopl: Penny Nash, Episcopal priest in the Diocese of Atlanta, use SM for pastoral ministry
personally and train others in diocese.

chsocm: Kindly remember we’re here to share with & support one another. Please use DM or email to pitch
products/services

jameshooper: New to tweetchat. this is going to be good conversation.

skenow: Good evening to all the folks in the chat tonight!

naaho: CBF Baptist, consultant, work for 3 non-profit/religious orgs to help them w/social media

Denise205: @jameshooper Welcome!

chsocm: moderating this chat @meredithgould, sociologist, author, also active in healthcare comm, keen on
using SocM to build community

edkay77: RT @edkay77 Bishop's staff, DE-MD Synod of the ELCA. Run FB, Twitter, website, newsletter for
communications.

drothamel: @jameshooper Welcome!

mgoins: Just another Meredith... ;-) Presbyterian, librarian, volunteer and information seeker.

Wade_A_Hampton: Greetings, I'm Wade. Peace

naaho: @rampracer remind me when chat over to send you link to great story 1 of my orgs published &
response we got on disabilities/church

chsocm: @jameshooper Welcome!

mgoins: Welcome @jameshooper! You'll find this chat enlightening and meaningful.

chsocm: Great to see new people. Every week our community grows!

naaho: @rev_david thinking of those in TX (including my family) dealing w/this awful time!

mirgray: @pinkpaddler You asked for a free QR code generator at some point this week. I think
http://www.qurify.com/en/ was the one I used.

chsocm: If you haven’t already had an opportunity, check out the Forrester ladder here:
http://tinyurl.com/3uja5wg

pinkpaddler: @mirgray @pinkpaddler Thanks!

chsocm: New folks: we use the hashtag during the week for content & convo relative to church social media.

paulsteinbrueck: RT : If you haven’t already had an opportunity, check out the Forrester ladder here:
http://tinyurl.com/3uja5wg


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HigherEdGirl: @rev_david : I totally understand! Just put my 2 yo twins to bed :)

Anj121: Hello friends! I'm currently Managing social media at catholic diocese

paulsteinbrueck: That's the first I've seen or heard of the Forrester Ladder. Interesting.

chsocm: T1 Where would place yourself (not your organization) on the Forrester ladder? Has your location
changed over time?

mirgray: That ladder is tricky. I'm a joiner for some tools and community and a Conversationalist in others.

chsocm: @paulsteinbrueck Classic...been around for a while but prolly new to church social media folk.

tijuanabecky: RT @mirgray: That ladder is tricky. I'm a joiner for some tools and community and a
Conversationalist in others.

pinkpaddler: I am now squarely in the creator category. Just started blogging. And maintain a YouTube
channel and website.

mgoins: T1 I'm in multiple groups: joiner, collector, critic & conversationalist - dependent on which
audience I'm interacting with.

rev_david: @HigherEdGirl Just walked in the door from gymnastics :-)

KYMargueritte: RT : Welcome to our weekly church and social media () chat, especially folks joining us for
the first time!

Denise205: @tijuanabecky @mirgray There are a couple of social media properties where I'm inactive too.

expatminister: Just getting here! Josh Hale: somewhat early adopter & #UMC pastor in deep East Texas.

drothamel: T1: I've been a creator since I got started in SM. I tend to learn by doing. Most of the folks in my
church are inactives.

RchrdBott: Working to be coversationalist, looking more like joiner.

MeredithGould: RT @iamepiscopalian: T1: Clearly we move up and down the ladder, and at times occupy
multiple rungs.

RevWeb: Been sloooooowly ramping up to conversationalist. Sometimes easy. Other times not so.

mwehrman: depending on the site, topic or content I am on every rung based on my comfort level.

MeredithGould: @paulsteinbrueck Not sure the ladder is meant to be a hierarchy. Does it seem that way?

pinkpaddler: @Denise205 @paulsteinbrueck I hope it's not boastful. After all, she did ask us.

penelopepiscopl: T1: I'm a creator, too. (and do the other stuff as well). I also learn by doing a la
@drothamel


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chsocm: We'll get to organizations, for now let's focus on us as individuals engaged with social media

mgoins: We all must start somewhere!

RchrdBott: @MeredithGould Ladder terminology seems to be hierarchical to me.

tijuanabecky: I think the ladder needs to be turned sideways @MeredithGould. Instead of going up or down
you can have some of all or few.

drothamel: @MeredithGould @paulsteinbrueck that's the only thing I don't like about it. It's a ladder. It
should be overlapping circles.

mgoins: @rev_david Serious lol - just woke a kid!

Anj121: I dwell on all rungs of the ladder depending on the site.http://bit.ly/pTDoAb

mirgray: @penelopepiscopl @MeredithGould Not also trying to avoid critic? I don't like the term. I wish
they'd used commentor instead.

mgoins: @skenow @MeredithGould @paulsteinbrueck Yes, venn diagrams anyone?

MeredithGould: @RchrdBott Could be...never saw it that way, so this is great to find out that others do!

RchrdBott: Like others, I'm all over the place... though not much of a 'collector.

edkay77: Personally, I find myself in the Conversationalist and Spectator areas; professionally, all of the
areas but inactive.

Denise205: @MeredithGould @paulsteinbrueck Ladder imagery implies some hierarchy, but this context
has it ok to be in multiple rungs

skenow: @mgoins There's a math major, for you!

craho: I collect in order to create.

MeredithGould: RT @craho: I collect in order to create.

drothamel: @MeredithGould @iamepiscopalian heheh.

18penelopepiscopl: RT @craho: I collect in order to create. //Me, too!

chsocm: T1 Where are you most comfy?

iamepiscopalian: @RevWeb We're clearly wrestling with "something" around here.

revrevwine: I have seen something similar presented as x,y axis & not a ladder...allows for a spectrum and
varying degrees of classifications

pinkpaddler: T1 I like creating, though I am still getting used to Twitter and don't always dive in.


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penelopepiscopl: @cdbush Charles, check your hashtag.

naaho: "spectating" - just as much due to time as anything - I have to push myself to engage lately

HigherEdGirl: As a conversationalist- #SM is built to engage RT : T1 Where are you most comfy?

RchrdBott: In text form? Conversationalist/creator. When it comes to imagery - especially moving, I'm
more of a joiner.

mirgray: @MeredithGould @paulsteinbrueck A ladder metaphor can only imply a hierarchy. May not be
helpful/realistic to imply a top rung.

RevWeb: Love the critic rung. Never thought I would. Great energy there.

klamach: T1: blogging, tweeting, and posting FB updates about my faith and causes I believe in

naaho: @HigherEdGirl it is built that way, but it can also be very one-sided

rev_david: Most comfortable jumping between creator & conversationalist. And hoping I don't fall off the
ladder!

Denise205: I find it interesting that conversationalist rung is defined by updating Twitter and FB. It doesn't
say anything about engaging!

mirgray: I want to be a connector but this is not an option. Not quite an expert but knowing who will know
the answer.

iamepiscopalian: @MeredithGould It's not you. We have FAR TOO FEW twitter convos. FB we really only
monitor.

chsocm: T2 Where would you place your organization/church at this point in time? Where would like it to
be?

craho: @mirgray good observation. I agree.

Anj121: Most comfy at spectator but know I need to push myself more as creator & conversationalist

mgoins: T2 just starting out we'd be spectators with a touch of creators (podcasts, fb pages) all in early
stages.

Denise205: My organization is definitely at the Creator and Conversationalist rungs.

mirgray: T2. 70% inactive 17% joiners. Is Farmville a good thing or a bad thing?

MeredithGould: RT @skenow: If I look at the ladder as increasing degrees of intention and deliberation, it
helps

RchrdBott: I find the convos with faith folks of other denom's great - but few in my congregation or
geographic area.


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edkay77: T2 Well, I'm monitoring most of our SM but have lots of help, so our Synod (Diocese) is hitting all
of them... some well, some not.

MeredithGould: RT : T2 Where would you place your organization/church at this point in time? Where
would like it to be?

drothamel: T2: folks in my church are mostly inactive, some joiners. Pastor is a creator.

paulsteinbrueck: T2: Mostly spectators with "inactive" & "conversational" not far behind

CandiceBenbow: @iamepiscopalian What's ?

expatminister: +1 RT @rev_david: Most comfortable jumping between creator & conversationalist. And
hoping I don't fall off the ladder!

rev_david: As individuals within the cong, they run the whole spectrum.

MeredithGould: @drothamel Wait...isn't GOD the Creator? Oh, never mind, you said pastor is "a" creator

klamach: T2: I would say Conversationalists, though our priest is definitely a Creator TBTG!

naaho: it's easy to get people to start at the "bottom" but i think education/motivation has to move them to
"top" = community

mwehrman: T2 I'm trying to get them off the bottom rung and start interacting at a time other than 9am
Sundays.

pinkpaddler: @MeredithGould @drothamel OK I did feel a little presumptious referring to myself as
Creator!

drothamel: @MeredithGould Heheh. Yes, a creator, not THE creator. I helped her become a creator, so I
guess I'm a creator-creator. LOL.

cephasmedia: T2 Jumping in late, here. I'm with @mirgray. Doesn't seem to have a rung for
moderating/curating.

MeredithGould: gives me an opportunity to talk with people of faith from other churches. Helps me grow in
faith!

iamepiscopalian: Oddly enough our @klout is a 53 = Influencer.

mirgray: @mgoins @MeredithGould @RchrdBott What is target ratio for creators to conversationalists to
spectators in healthy congregation?

drothamel: @iamepiscopalian oh man, don't even get me started on Klout. . .

revrevwine: hv problem with the ladder img... uplifts some type of progression... beauty of social is you can
participate at any level you choose



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Denise205: @iamepiscopalian Isn't there a variant on the ladder that includes influencers? Or am I
imagining that?

jameshooper: @MeredithGould I agree. It's been totally helpful to interact with those I would've never met
without twitter

naaho: u could remove the reference to social media and this ladder could still be used to describe our
congregations

iamepiscopalian: @CandiceBenbow A weekly SM faith chat. Come on over!

revrevwine: even as a spectator you are participating

naaho: @drothamel @iamepiscopalian I agree!

RchrdBott: Heavens, @mirgray - I'd be grateful if 10% were conversationalists.

edkay77: RT @Anj121: @iamepiscopalian @klout <------Our next topic? // I'd love some conversation
around that!

tijuanabecky: RT @revrevwine: even as a spectator you are participating

mgoins: @Anj121 ew ew future topic?!?! #klout

Wade_A_Hampton: @iamepiscopalian I like influencer, but Specialist is okay

Denise205: RT @jameshooper: @MeredithGould I agree. It's been totally helpful to interact with those I
would've never met without twitter

MeredithGould: @Ms_Confucious No kiddin'

mirgray: @MeredithGould First ballpark: 15 creators to 35 conversationalists to 50 spectators.

mgoins: @Denise205 @jameshooper @MeredithGould I fourth that opinion!

mirgray: @MeredithGould Expect Creators group relatively stable. Others more fluid and people move in
an out over time and topic.

paulsteinbrueck: @MeredithGould Usually those people are interested in using social media to promote &
strengthen their denom & not ppl or the Church

Anj121: RT @MeredithGould: Frankly, I worry about those who say they’re interested in #chsocm but will
not engage with other denominations.

rampracer: RT @meredithgould: Frankly, I worry about those who say they're interested in #chsocm but
will not engage with other denominations.

naaho: @paulsteinbrueck @MeredithGould or it's one more tool for "control"



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edkay77: RT @meredithgould: Frankly, I worry about those who say they're interested in #chsocm but will
not engage with other denominations.

RevWeb: @Ms_Confucious @MeredithGould If one is secured in their own faith then there is nothing to
fear. Faith shared is not faith lost.

mirgray: @RchrdBott @mirgray I think 10% is too small. Too easy to be seen as insiders or special elite.

MeredithGould: Honestly, sometimes I feel like SHOUTING, folks the "c" in one holy catholic & apostolic
church is a little "c"

Ms_Confucious: YES!! RT @RevWeb @MeredithGould If one is secure in their own faith then there is
nothing to fear. Faith shared is not faith lost.

klamach: RT @MeredithGould: Honestly, sometimes I feel like SHOUTING, folks the "c" in one holy catholic
& apostolic church is a little "c"

cephasmedia: @meredithgould I worry about people of any stripe using social media as a bully pulpit.

drothamel: @MeredithGould LOL. When I was a little kid in the Lutheran church, that always confused me.

TrinityLimeRock: Easier to engage with other liturgical denominations in my experience. Need to figure out
why.

revrevwine: also you know they are there with analytics

Ms_Confucious: RT @MeredithGould: Honestly, sometimes I feel like SHOUTING, folks the "c" in one holy
catholic & apostolic church is a little "c"

rampracer: RT @meredithgould: Honestly, sometimes I feel like SHOUTING, folks the "c" in one holy
catholic & apostolic church is a little "c"

mirgray: @revrevwine But an evangelists we want to maybe be joiner oriented. Faith isn't a spectator
sport.

RchrdBott: @mirgray Right now, in the congregation, I'm at 1% & they're using ggle buzz. 10% would be a
great start. 40%+ would be glorious. :)

jameshooper: It's not about your church. It's about The Church. Using social media to help The Church
connect with the church is critial.

mgoins: @jameshooper Exactly!

MeredithGould: MT @jameshooper: It's not about your church. It's about The Church. Using social media to
help The Church connect

RchrdBott: @revrevwine True. Thanks for that.

RevWeb: Amen to that. RT @Anj121: @MeredithGould And that little "c" means universal!


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naaho: the world is still crying out for the truth that we know - social media allows us into their living
rooms 2 share their hurt

revrevwine: @mirgray how do we measure "active" faith is it engaging social convos?... SM allows the
individual to choose how to affiliate

RevWeb: SM may be the best ecumenical vehicle since Vatican II.

TrinityLimeRock: Of course it’s about THE church -- but it's still easier with similar denominations. Just
saying. For evangelicals as well?

revrevwine: AMEN! RT @RevWeb: SM may be the best ecumenical vehicle since Vatican II.

tijuanabecky: RT @meredithgould: MT @jameshooper: It's not about your church. It's about The Church.
Using social media to help The Church connect

klamach: always looking for ecumenical dialogue, I only get denominational with the unchurched! :-)

RchrdBott: RT @RevWeb SM may be the best ecumenical vehicle since Vatican II. / And inter-faith
conversation space, as well.

edkay77: RT @jameshooper: I don't know if Facebook (in ministry) is as useful as it was a year or two ago.
// Has something taken its place?

RchrdBott: @jameshooper Why not FB, James?

MeredithGould: @mirgray It depends. I also work in/for the healthcare industry & some people are
absolutely NOT open about faith

Denise205: @jameshooper Why do you say that?

pinkpaddler: @mirgray @revrevwine Good question! If they aren't "out" about their faith, why are we
talking about all this?

mirgray: @MeredithGould Yes, it is is work related they may not be able to be.

CandiceBenbow: Coming! RT @iamepiscopalian: @CandiceBenbow A weekly SM faith chat. Come on over!

MeredithGould: @mirgray Make that "most" are not because it puts their secular careers at risk

TrinityLimeRock: But kids?

rev_david: SocMed - esp twitter - allows me to have conversation w. another because we find one another
interesting. Not because of labels.

RchrdBott: @pinkpaddler If they aren't out about their faith, I wonder if that's a good part of where
spectator as participant comes in?

Anj121: My twitter/fb friends are open about faith not necessarily denomination. And that's ok with me.


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RevWeb: Need to teach faithful HOW to chat about faith on SM and in their "real" chats.

MeredithGould: RT @mirgray: @MeredithGould Multiple online ids? Also who are they following. What are
their inputs ever if they don't engage back?

drothamel: RT @RevWeb: Need to teach faithful HOW to chat about faith on SM and in their "real" chats.

Ms_Confucious: Take a look at what @seeingtheword is doing. RT @jameshooper I don't know if FB (in
ministry) is as useful as it was year or 2 ago.

Denise205: @pinkpaddler We can still reach out and be encouraging in faith to those who can't/won't
express faith online. Go for spectators too

skenow: Social media is still quite visual and less audible - very different in terms of communication styles

jameshooper: @Denise205 I wonder. I've been in large church and small church and the responses are
about equal. I use FB all the time though.

mgoins: @RevWeb That is why I'm here!

mirgray: @MeredithGould I don't have an answer. I do get flack from unchurched about volume of faith
stuff I expose them to. Need another id.

iamepiscopalian: RT @MeredithGould: @RevWeb Well, the "e" word (evangelization) freaks some people
out! // Yup.

mgoins: @RevWeb To learn, not to teach - well, maybe a touch of both. We are all teachers.

pinkpaddler: @MeredithGould @RevWeb Yep, there's an old adage that Episcopalians invite someone to
church an average of once every 38 years.

TrinityLimeRock: @meredithgould glad Im not the only one who gets it

chsocm: T3 How are clergy & lay ministers using social media? How is this different from how secular folks
use it?

MeredithGould: @pinkpaddler That frequently?

MeredithGould: RT @rev_david: From observation, many in the congregation talk about their faith more
freely thru SocMed than in "real life"

drothamel: SM is more than talking about faith with others. It is about LIVING out faith with others.

 paulsteinbrueck: T3: entire books have been written on this topic & u expect us to answer in < 140 chars?
:)

drothamel: T3: My experience is that clergy use it a lot like other professionals-- according to their
individual personalities.



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BrendaAKeller: RT @MeredithGould: Honestly, sometimes I feel like SHOUTING, folks the "c" in one holy
catholic & apostolic church is a little "c"

Denise205: RT @drothamel: SM is more than talking about faith with others. It is about LIVING out faith
with others. >> YES!

revrevwine: RT @drothamel: SM is more than talking about faith with others. It is about LIVING out faith
with others.

chsocm: @paulsteinbrueck No, less than 140 so you can leave room for RT!

edkay77: T3 The only difference I see is church ppl are more likely to post faith-related topics/forwards
but not much faith sharing

rev_david: T3 - I think clergy / churches have been slower at adopting SocMed as a communication tool
than businesses/brands

iamepiscopalian: T3: It's hard, I bet for members of clergy to interact in and on SM sites as regular folk.
Handle with care.

ToddWaller: RT @drothamel: SM is more than talking about faith with others. It is about LIVING out faith
with others.

craho: @drothamel interesting. is that becuase clergy need to connect people?

mgoins: I find that the discussion and many of your tweets throughout the day bring me back to my
purpose. Thank you for that.

Denise205: RT @RevWeb: I suspect there are spectators (lurkers) on this chat tonight. Bless you for being
here.

cephasmedia: T3 I'm a clergy person with a secular job. The distinction is between my personal accounts &
professional ones.

drothamel: @craho perhaps. There are shallow, annoying salespeople on SM, and thoughtful ones. Same for
clergy.

RchrdBott: Creating space for conversations - all of them sacred - sometimes specifically about the sacred.

tijuanabecky: Yup..doing that..also in 2. RT @RevWeb: I suspect there are spectators (lurkers) on this chat
tonight. Bless you for being here.

MeredithGould: RT @RchrdBott: Creating space for conversations - all of them sacred - sometimes
specifically about the sacred.

RevWeb: T3 Some using SM to share prayer requests, pastoral care, evangelism & community bldg.

rev_david: @iamepiscopalian I have a hard and fast rule. I am the same person as "Pastor David" as I am as
"David."


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MeredithGould: I chat & write about everything -- for me, sacred & secular is always a mash-up!

craho: @drothamel umm, yup. funny.

cephasmedia: T3 To talk about my faith on my professional accounts would be...unprofessional. But I hope
my faith informs what I say.

naaho: RT @MeredithGould: I chat & write about everything -- for me, sacred & secular is always a mash-
up!//agreed!

rev_david: Yes, exactly. // RT @MeredithGould: I chat & write about everything -- for me, sacred & secular
is always a mash-up!

jameshooper: It's sad, I think the church is a bit late on using technology. I wish we would set the pace.

skenow: T3 - those that do increase their availability beyond Sunday mornings

MeredithGould: @drothamel I pride myself on being deeply shallow...about my hair

jodyms: RT @MeredithGould: I chat & write about everything -- for me, sacred & secular is always a mash-
up!

mirgray: @rev_david Yes. I have that rule too as a lay person. I am integrated whole not a fractured self.

drothamel: @MeredithGould "deeply shallow." I like that. LOL.

cephasmedia: T3: Not sure I've seen lay ministers use SM as lay ministers...has anyone?

Denise205: @cephasmedia Exactly. Faith can inform the content without screaming about specific religious
topics.

RchrdBott: Often clergy seem to use our 'public face' on s/m... where people seem to want to meet who we
really are.

MeredithGould: RT @RchrdBott: Often clergy seem to use our 'public face' on s/m... where people seem to
want to meet who we really are.

paulsteinbrueck: @MeredithGould Since everything is created by God and for God everything is sacred.
Nothing is secular.

craho: @MeredithGould @Denise205 @cephasmedia thats the best kind.

skenow: RT @paulsteinbrueck: Since everything is created by God and for God everything is sacred.
Nothing is secular.

mirgray: @RchrdBott Clergy are in relationship business so you have to be open to intimacy. No?

rev_david: @MeredithGould Yup :-)



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RchrdBott: Often the info about the bazaar or the topic of the reflection gets tweeted, when ppl what to
hear why either is important (?)

RevWeb: RT @paulsteinbrueck: @MeredithGould Since everything is created by God and for God
everything is sacred. Nothing is secular.

naaho: lot of clergy use "no time" excuse. I counter w:but if u saw church memb in gstore, u wuldnt brush
them off. c SM as gstore.

CandiceBenbow: Agreed. RT @jameshooper: It's sad, I think the church is a bit late on using technology. I
wish we would set the pace.

craho: i find many clergy forget that their sm face is also a very public face. the immaturity is frustrating

klamach: I recently decided to shatter my anonymity on both Twitter and my blog, I figured I might as well
witness as myself

RchrdBott: @mirgray Should? Yes. Are? Not always. (This is an introvert tweeting. *grin*)

drothamel: @naaho ask them if they "don't have time" for evangelism and stewardship. SM is just an
extension.

MeredithGould: RT @drothamel: @naaho ask them if they "don't have time" for evangelism and
stewardship. SM is just an extension.

klamach: <--not clergy by the way

rev_david: Simul iustus saint & sinner; pastor and father; liturgist and friend; nice guy and SOB; preacher
and failure.

StJamesNL: I'm a lay minister... but mindful that I tweet for the faith community... Not just for myself

CandiceBenbow: @jameshooper: We're using it for fundraising and "platform" launching. But I think more
could definitely be done for outreach.

cephasmedia: I have sympathy with the "don't have time" reason. There are lots of demands on time; is sm
the best use of time?

jameshooper: SM has the greatest opportunity for us to show the world that we're not only about Sunday.

craho: @MeredithGould @craho ha! love cheetos.

MeredithGould: If we're baptized, we're ministers...and some are ordained.

penelopepiscopl: @rev_david Nice.

CandiceBenbow: RT @drothamel: RT @RchrdBott: Often clergy seem to use our public face on s/m where
people seem to want to meet who we really are.

iamepiscopalian: RT @MeredithGould: If we're baptized, we're ministers...and some are ordained.

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drothamel: RT @MeredithGould: If we're baptized, we're ministers...and some are ordained.

craho: @cephasmedia best use of time? don’t know. but a good one and one that plants see for the future,
yes.

RchrdBott: @mirgray Ephemeral, but with google stick around forever. I think, sometimes, clergy r afraid of
words coming back to bite us. :)

chsocm: Coming up on the hour, folks! A few minutes to closing prayer.

penelopepiscopl: @cephasmedia SM is another way to build relationships. We make time, just as we would
w/phone or hosp visits.

RevWeb: Just curious. What was the conversation at coffee hour when the 1st phones appeared in town?
Pastor on fone too much? Not visiting?

naaho: @cephasmedia @penelopepiscopl I think it is worth time b/c ppl are more "vulnerable" "accessible"
& it IS community.

paulsteinbrueck: @cephasmedia I agree. If you don't have time for social media, you don't have time for
people.

revrevwine: @cephasmedia everything is headed digital...SM is the tip of iceberg... Gutenberg is gone... we
must learn to comm in digital world

rev_david: "No time" Doing home visits, I'm doing good to get to 4-5 homes in a week. With SocMed, I can
reach 100+ members multiple times.

mgoins: And just think, the Library of Congress is capturing all of this. We can look back in 5, 10, 20 years
and see how far we've come.

revrevwine: social about learning a new way to communicate the content we are all so good at creating

iamepiscopalian: RT @rev_david: "No time" On Sunday, I preach to 170 ppl. During the week with SocMed, I
can reach my exponentially more.

chsocm: This is such a great conversation and I know I'll find even more gems when I review the transcript.

cephasmedia: Wow! The thing is, "social media" is a panoply of options. HOW to use sm?

edkay77: SM is also a way to engage people who aren't as able to say what they want to say in person
(especially youth).

mgoins: In reference to my last post: http://blogs.loc.gov/loc/2010/04/how-tweet-it-is-library-acquires-
entire-twitter-archive/

RchrdBott: AMEN! RT This is such a great conversation and I know I'll find even more gems when I review
the transcript.

rev_heather: RT @RevWeb: SM may be the best ecumenical vehicle since Vatican II.

                                                      15
klamach: RT @edkay77: SM is also a way to engage people who aren't as able to say what they want to say
in person (especially youth).

chsocm: The transcript of tonight’s chat will be posted on http://tinyurl.com/623leed within a few hours.

CandiceBenbow: RT @paulsteinbrueck: @cephasmedia I agree. If you don't have time for social media, you
don't have time for people.

penelopepiscopl: @cephasmedia Do what you like / are already doing first. watch others. branch out.
enjoy! This is what I do training w/clergy for.

naaho: @rev_david @mirgray was hoping youd say that so clearly!

penelopepiscopl: @cephasmedia You don't have to do it all. Just start somewhere.

mgoins: @rev_david Excellent focus on your audience :-)

tijuanabecky: RT @paulsteinbrueck: @cephasmedia I agree. If you don't have time for social media, you
don't have time for people.

Denise205: @mgoins That still gets me! We'll laugh at the archives, I'm sure--just like at a physical time
capsule.

chsocm: Guess what? We coming up on the hour . You're welcome to stay & chat. Meanwhile, we conclude
with this prayer from Compline:

cephasmedia: I should explain that I'm a sm consultant. I'm all about encouraging people to use sm. :)

chsocm: Guide us waking, O Lord, and guard us sleeping; that awake we may watch with Christ & asleep we
may rest in peace

iamepiscopalian: RT @cephasmedia: For me, question isn't "SHOULD clergy use sm" but "HOW".

CandiceBenbow: Young people aren't packing churches but they're flooding Twitter, Facebook and
FourSquare. The Church needs a presence there.

chsocm: We’re at the hour. Thanks to all for your contributions & insights. Join us again, next Tuesday
@9pm EDT.




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September 6, 2011 Church Social Media Tweetchat

  • 1. Tuesday, September 6, 2011 Note Data and transcript from HashTracking.com. #CHSOCM HashTracking.com Report 623 tweets generated 1,352,386 impressions, reaching an audience of 119,584 followers within the past 24 hours| Generated Tues Sep 06 2011 22:35:40 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Top 10 by number of impressions Top 10 by number of tweets 1. paulsteinbrueck: 512,400 1. meredithgould: 66 2. meredithgould: 248,556 2. chsocm: 40 3. drothamel: 186,714 3. naaho: 34 4. iamepiscopalian: 117,390 4. denise205: 31 5. denise205: 36,115 5. mgoins: 29 6. rampracer: 24,739 6. rchrdbott: 27 7. jkcallas: 18,124 7. mirgray: 25 8. rev_david: 17,358 8. drothamel: 23 9. revrevwine: 15,903 9. klamach: 22 10. mgoins: 14,094 10. rev_david: 22 1
  • 2. chsocm: Welcome to our weekly church and social media () chat, especially folks joining us for the first time! RevWeb: RT : Welcome to our weekly church and social media () chat, especially folks joining us for the first time! SteveCassady: Great Activity! :) RT @paulsteinbrueck: 1 minute until #getrealchat and . Time for extreme tweet chat multitasking! #getrealchat chsocm: If this is your first tweetchat ever, please do not get discouraged by the pace! chsocm: A transcript will be available in 2 forms by tomorrow morning here: http://bit.ly/pTDoAb paulsteinbrueck: is a weekly twitter chat about church & social media: http://tweetchat.com/room/chsocm klamach: @FrPaulofLynn Church and Social Media discussion follow hashtag chsocm: We’ll get started in a minute with self-introductions, but as ever, we start with prayer. Denise205: Hello friends! chsocm: Almighty & merciful God, we rejoice in your abiding presence everywhere & at all times. naaho: RT : A transcript will be available in 2 forms by tomorrow morning here: http://bit.ly/pTDoAb chsocm: We give you thanks for this opportunity to share experience & inquiry anchored in faith. chsocm: We ask your Holy Spirit to inspire tonight’s conversation & guide us as we move forward in love & service. Amen. tijuanabecky: Hi @Denise205 @naaho @klamach! iamepiscopalian: Amen, amen. paulsteinbrueck: Amen! klamach: Checking into chat, hello all new and old! chsocm: Next up: self-introductions. In addition to your church affiliation, please let everyone how you currently use social media pinkpaddler: Christ Episcopal, Dover DE, SM evangelist wannabe (and webmaster) drothamel: My name is Daniel, I'm a Methodist, and I've been doing the social media thing since '05. chsocm: We will assume tweets during this chat yours & do not represent your church or organization mirgray: Lay person. Lutheran mostly. Canadian. Using it mostly to pull information into the community and remind them of mission fields. 2
  • 3. penelopepiscopl: Penny Nash, Episcopal priest in the Diocese of Atlanta, use SM for pastoral ministry personally and train others in diocese. chsocm: Kindly remember we’re here to share with & support one another. Please use DM or email to pitch products/services jameshooper: New to tweetchat. this is going to be good conversation. skenow: Good evening to all the folks in the chat tonight! naaho: CBF Baptist, consultant, work for 3 non-profit/religious orgs to help them w/social media Denise205: @jameshooper Welcome! chsocm: moderating this chat @meredithgould, sociologist, author, also active in healthcare comm, keen on using SocM to build community edkay77: RT @edkay77 Bishop's staff, DE-MD Synod of the ELCA. Run FB, Twitter, website, newsletter for communications. drothamel: @jameshooper Welcome! mgoins: Just another Meredith... ;-) Presbyterian, librarian, volunteer and information seeker. Wade_A_Hampton: Greetings, I'm Wade. Peace naaho: @rampracer remind me when chat over to send you link to great story 1 of my orgs published & response we got on disabilities/church chsocm: @jameshooper Welcome! mgoins: Welcome @jameshooper! You'll find this chat enlightening and meaningful. chsocm: Great to see new people. Every week our community grows! naaho: @rev_david thinking of those in TX (including my family) dealing w/this awful time! mirgray: @pinkpaddler You asked for a free QR code generator at some point this week. I think http://www.qurify.com/en/ was the one I used. chsocm: If you haven’t already had an opportunity, check out the Forrester ladder here: http://tinyurl.com/3uja5wg pinkpaddler: @mirgray @pinkpaddler Thanks! chsocm: New folks: we use the hashtag during the week for content & convo relative to church social media. paulsteinbrueck: RT : If you haven’t already had an opportunity, check out the Forrester ladder here: http://tinyurl.com/3uja5wg 3
  • 4. HigherEdGirl: @rev_david : I totally understand! Just put my 2 yo twins to bed :) Anj121: Hello friends! I'm currently Managing social media at catholic diocese paulsteinbrueck: That's the first I've seen or heard of the Forrester Ladder. Interesting. chsocm: T1 Where would place yourself (not your organization) on the Forrester ladder? Has your location changed over time? mirgray: That ladder is tricky. I'm a joiner for some tools and community and a Conversationalist in others. chsocm: @paulsteinbrueck Classic...been around for a while but prolly new to church social media folk. tijuanabecky: RT @mirgray: That ladder is tricky. I'm a joiner for some tools and community and a Conversationalist in others. pinkpaddler: I am now squarely in the creator category. Just started blogging. And maintain a YouTube channel and website. mgoins: T1 I'm in multiple groups: joiner, collector, critic & conversationalist - dependent on which audience I'm interacting with. rev_david: @HigherEdGirl Just walked in the door from gymnastics :-) KYMargueritte: RT : Welcome to our weekly church and social media () chat, especially folks joining us for the first time! Denise205: @tijuanabecky @mirgray There are a couple of social media properties where I'm inactive too. expatminister: Just getting here! Josh Hale: somewhat early adopter & #UMC pastor in deep East Texas. drothamel: T1: I've been a creator since I got started in SM. I tend to learn by doing. Most of the folks in my church are inactives. RchrdBott: Working to be coversationalist, looking more like joiner. MeredithGould: RT @iamepiscopalian: T1: Clearly we move up and down the ladder, and at times occupy multiple rungs. RevWeb: Been sloooooowly ramping up to conversationalist. Sometimes easy. Other times not so. mwehrman: depending on the site, topic or content I am on every rung based on my comfort level. MeredithGould: @paulsteinbrueck Not sure the ladder is meant to be a hierarchy. Does it seem that way? pinkpaddler: @Denise205 @paulsteinbrueck I hope it's not boastful. After all, she did ask us. penelopepiscopl: T1: I'm a creator, too. (and do the other stuff as well). I also learn by doing a la @drothamel 4
  • 5. chsocm: We'll get to organizations, for now let's focus on us as individuals engaged with social media mgoins: We all must start somewhere! RchrdBott: @MeredithGould Ladder terminology seems to be hierarchical to me. tijuanabecky: I think the ladder needs to be turned sideways @MeredithGould. Instead of going up or down you can have some of all or few. drothamel: @MeredithGould @paulsteinbrueck that's the only thing I don't like about it. It's a ladder. It should be overlapping circles. mgoins: @rev_david Serious lol - just woke a kid! Anj121: I dwell on all rungs of the ladder depending on the site.http://bit.ly/pTDoAb mirgray: @penelopepiscopl @MeredithGould Not also trying to avoid critic? I don't like the term. I wish they'd used commentor instead. mgoins: @skenow @MeredithGould @paulsteinbrueck Yes, venn diagrams anyone? MeredithGould: @RchrdBott Could be...never saw it that way, so this is great to find out that others do! RchrdBott: Like others, I'm all over the place... though not much of a 'collector. edkay77: Personally, I find myself in the Conversationalist and Spectator areas; professionally, all of the areas but inactive. Denise205: @MeredithGould @paulsteinbrueck Ladder imagery implies some hierarchy, but this context has it ok to be in multiple rungs skenow: @mgoins There's a math major, for you! craho: I collect in order to create. MeredithGould: RT @craho: I collect in order to create. drothamel: @MeredithGould @iamepiscopalian heheh. 18penelopepiscopl: RT @craho: I collect in order to create. //Me, too! chsocm: T1 Where are you most comfy? iamepiscopalian: @RevWeb We're clearly wrestling with "something" around here. revrevwine: I have seen something similar presented as x,y axis & not a ladder...allows for a spectrum and varying degrees of classifications pinkpaddler: T1 I like creating, though I am still getting used to Twitter and don't always dive in. 5
  • 6. penelopepiscopl: @cdbush Charles, check your hashtag. naaho: "spectating" - just as much due to time as anything - I have to push myself to engage lately HigherEdGirl: As a conversationalist- #SM is built to engage RT : T1 Where are you most comfy? RchrdBott: In text form? Conversationalist/creator. When it comes to imagery - especially moving, I'm more of a joiner. mirgray: @MeredithGould @paulsteinbrueck A ladder metaphor can only imply a hierarchy. May not be helpful/realistic to imply a top rung. RevWeb: Love the critic rung. Never thought I would. Great energy there. klamach: T1: blogging, tweeting, and posting FB updates about my faith and causes I believe in naaho: @HigherEdGirl it is built that way, but it can also be very one-sided rev_david: Most comfortable jumping between creator & conversationalist. And hoping I don't fall off the ladder! Denise205: I find it interesting that conversationalist rung is defined by updating Twitter and FB. It doesn't say anything about engaging! mirgray: I want to be a connector but this is not an option. Not quite an expert but knowing who will know the answer. iamepiscopalian: @MeredithGould It's not you. We have FAR TOO FEW twitter convos. FB we really only monitor. chsocm: T2 Where would you place your organization/church at this point in time? Where would like it to be? craho: @mirgray good observation. I agree. Anj121: Most comfy at spectator but know I need to push myself more as creator & conversationalist mgoins: T2 just starting out we'd be spectators with a touch of creators (podcasts, fb pages) all in early stages. Denise205: My organization is definitely at the Creator and Conversationalist rungs. mirgray: T2. 70% inactive 17% joiners. Is Farmville a good thing or a bad thing? MeredithGould: RT @skenow: If I look at the ladder as increasing degrees of intention and deliberation, it helps RchrdBott: I find the convos with faith folks of other denom's great - but few in my congregation or geographic area. 6
  • 7. edkay77: T2 Well, I'm monitoring most of our SM but have lots of help, so our Synod (Diocese) is hitting all of them... some well, some not. MeredithGould: RT : T2 Where would you place your organization/church at this point in time? Where would like it to be? drothamel: T2: folks in my church are mostly inactive, some joiners. Pastor is a creator. paulsteinbrueck: T2: Mostly spectators with "inactive" & "conversational" not far behind CandiceBenbow: @iamepiscopalian What's ? expatminister: +1 RT @rev_david: Most comfortable jumping between creator & conversationalist. And hoping I don't fall off the ladder! rev_david: As individuals within the cong, they run the whole spectrum. MeredithGould: @drothamel Wait...isn't GOD the Creator? Oh, never mind, you said pastor is "a" creator klamach: T2: I would say Conversationalists, though our priest is definitely a Creator TBTG! naaho: it's easy to get people to start at the "bottom" but i think education/motivation has to move them to "top" = community mwehrman: T2 I'm trying to get them off the bottom rung and start interacting at a time other than 9am Sundays. pinkpaddler: @MeredithGould @drothamel OK I did feel a little presumptious referring to myself as Creator! drothamel: @MeredithGould Heheh. Yes, a creator, not THE creator. I helped her become a creator, so I guess I'm a creator-creator. LOL. cephasmedia: T2 Jumping in late, here. I'm with @mirgray. Doesn't seem to have a rung for moderating/curating. MeredithGould: gives me an opportunity to talk with people of faith from other churches. Helps me grow in faith! iamepiscopalian: Oddly enough our @klout is a 53 = Influencer. mirgray: @mgoins @MeredithGould @RchrdBott What is target ratio for creators to conversationalists to spectators in healthy congregation? drothamel: @iamepiscopalian oh man, don't even get me started on Klout. . . revrevwine: hv problem with the ladder img... uplifts some type of progression... beauty of social is you can participate at any level you choose 7
  • 8. Denise205: @iamepiscopalian Isn't there a variant on the ladder that includes influencers? Or am I imagining that? jameshooper: @MeredithGould I agree. It's been totally helpful to interact with those I would've never met without twitter naaho: u could remove the reference to social media and this ladder could still be used to describe our congregations iamepiscopalian: @CandiceBenbow A weekly SM faith chat. Come on over! revrevwine: even as a spectator you are participating naaho: @drothamel @iamepiscopalian I agree! RchrdBott: Heavens, @mirgray - I'd be grateful if 10% were conversationalists. edkay77: RT @Anj121: @iamepiscopalian @klout <------Our next topic? // I'd love some conversation around that! tijuanabecky: RT @revrevwine: even as a spectator you are participating mgoins: @Anj121 ew ew future topic?!?! #klout Wade_A_Hampton: @iamepiscopalian I like influencer, but Specialist is okay Denise205: RT @jameshooper: @MeredithGould I agree. It's been totally helpful to interact with those I would've never met without twitter MeredithGould: @Ms_Confucious No kiddin' mirgray: @MeredithGould First ballpark: 15 creators to 35 conversationalists to 50 spectators. mgoins: @Denise205 @jameshooper @MeredithGould I fourth that opinion! mirgray: @MeredithGould Expect Creators group relatively stable. Others more fluid and people move in an out over time and topic. paulsteinbrueck: @MeredithGould Usually those people are interested in using social media to promote & strengthen their denom & not ppl or the Church Anj121: RT @MeredithGould: Frankly, I worry about those who say they’re interested in #chsocm but will not engage with other denominations. rampracer: RT @meredithgould: Frankly, I worry about those who say they're interested in #chsocm but will not engage with other denominations. naaho: @paulsteinbrueck @MeredithGould or it's one more tool for "control" 8
  • 9. edkay77: RT @meredithgould: Frankly, I worry about those who say they're interested in #chsocm but will not engage with other denominations. RevWeb: @Ms_Confucious @MeredithGould If one is secured in their own faith then there is nothing to fear. Faith shared is not faith lost. mirgray: @RchrdBott @mirgray I think 10% is too small. Too easy to be seen as insiders or special elite. MeredithGould: Honestly, sometimes I feel like SHOUTING, folks the "c" in one holy catholic & apostolic church is a little "c" Ms_Confucious: YES!! RT @RevWeb @MeredithGould If one is secure in their own faith then there is nothing to fear. Faith shared is not faith lost. klamach: RT @MeredithGould: Honestly, sometimes I feel like SHOUTING, folks the "c" in one holy catholic & apostolic church is a little "c" cephasmedia: @meredithgould I worry about people of any stripe using social media as a bully pulpit. drothamel: @MeredithGould LOL. When I was a little kid in the Lutheran church, that always confused me. TrinityLimeRock: Easier to engage with other liturgical denominations in my experience. Need to figure out why. revrevwine: also you know they are there with analytics Ms_Confucious: RT @MeredithGould: Honestly, sometimes I feel like SHOUTING, folks the "c" in one holy catholic & apostolic church is a little "c" rampracer: RT @meredithgould: Honestly, sometimes I feel like SHOUTING, folks the "c" in one holy catholic & apostolic church is a little "c" mirgray: @revrevwine But an evangelists we want to maybe be joiner oriented. Faith isn't a spectator sport. RchrdBott: @mirgray Right now, in the congregation, I'm at 1% & they're using ggle buzz. 10% would be a great start. 40%+ would be glorious. :) jameshooper: It's not about your church. It's about The Church. Using social media to help The Church connect with the church is critial. mgoins: @jameshooper Exactly! MeredithGould: MT @jameshooper: It's not about your church. It's about The Church. Using social media to help The Church connect RchrdBott: @revrevwine True. Thanks for that. RevWeb: Amen to that. RT @Anj121: @MeredithGould And that little "c" means universal! 9
  • 10. naaho: the world is still crying out for the truth that we know - social media allows us into their living rooms 2 share their hurt revrevwine: @mirgray how do we measure "active" faith is it engaging social convos?... SM allows the individual to choose how to affiliate RevWeb: SM may be the best ecumenical vehicle since Vatican II. TrinityLimeRock: Of course it’s about THE church -- but it's still easier with similar denominations. Just saying. For evangelicals as well? revrevwine: AMEN! RT @RevWeb: SM may be the best ecumenical vehicle since Vatican II. tijuanabecky: RT @meredithgould: MT @jameshooper: It's not about your church. It's about The Church. Using social media to help The Church connect klamach: always looking for ecumenical dialogue, I only get denominational with the unchurched! :-) RchrdBott: RT @RevWeb SM may be the best ecumenical vehicle since Vatican II. / And inter-faith conversation space, as well. edkay77: RT @jameshooper: I don't know if Facebook (in ministry) is as useful as it was a year or two ago. // Has something taken its place? RchrdBott: @jameshooper Why not FB, James? MeredithGould: @mirgray It depends. I also work in/for the healthcare industry & some people are absolutely NOT open about faith Denise205: @jameshooper Why do you say that? pinkpaddler: @mirgray @revrevwine Good question! If they aren't "out" about their faith, why are we talking about all this? mirgray: @MeredithGould Yes, it is is work related they may not be able to be. CandiceBenbow: Coming! RT @iamepiscopalian: @CandiceBenbow A weekly SM faith chat. Come on over! MeredithGould: @mirgray Make that "most" are not because it puts their secular careers at risk TrinityLimeRock: But kids? rev_david: SocMed - esp twitter - allows me to have conversation w. another because we find one another interesting. Not because of labels. RchrdBott: @pinkpaddler If they aren't out about their faith, I wonder if that's a good part of where spectator as participant comes in? Anj121: My twitter/fb friends are open about faith not necessarily denomination. And that's ok with me. 10
  • 11. RevWeb: Need to teach faithful HOW to chat about faith on SM and in their "real" chats. MeredithGould: RT @mirgray: @MeredithGould Multiple online ids? Also who are they following. What are their inputs ever if they don't engage back? drothamel: RT @RevWeb: Need to teach faithful HOW to chat about faith on SM and in their "real" chats. Ms_Confucious: Take a look at what @seeingtheword is doing. RT @jameshooper I don't know if FB (in ministry) is as useful as it was year or 2 ago. Denise205: @pinkpaddler We can still reach out and be encouraging in faith to those who can't/won't express faith online. Go for spectators too skenow: Social media is still quite visual and less audible - very different in terms of communication styles jameshooper: @Denise205 I wonder. I've been in large church and small church and the responses are about equal. I use FB all the time though. mgoins: @RevWeb That is why I'm here! mirgray: @MeredithGould I don't have an answer. I do get flack from unchurched about volume of faith stuff I expose them to. Need another id. iamepiscopalian: RT @MeredithGould: @RevWeb Well, the "e" word (evangelization) freaks some people out! // Yup. mgoins: @RevWeb To learn, not to teach - well, maybe a touch of both. We are all teachers. pinkpaddler: @MeredithGould @RevWeb Yep, there's an old adage that Episcopalians invite someone to church an average of once every 38 years. TrinityLimeRock: @meredithgould glad Im not the only one who gets it chsocm: T3 How are clergy & lay ministers using social media? How is this different from how secular folks use it? MeredithGould: @pinkpaddler That frequently? MeredithGould: RT @rev_david: From observation, many in the congregation talk about their faith more freely thru SocMed than in "real life" drothamel: SM is more than talking about faith with others. It is about LIVING out faith with others. paulsteinbrueck: T3: entire books have been written on this topic & u expect us to answer in < 140 chars? :) drothamel: T3: My experience is that clergy use it a lot like other professionals-- according to their individual personalities. 11
  • 12. BrendaAKeller: RT @MeredithGould: Honestly, sometimes I feel like SHOUTING, folks the "c" in one holy catholic & apostolic church is a little "c" Denise205: RT @drothamel: SM is more than talking about faith with others. It is about LIVING out faith with others. >> YES! revrevwine: RT @drothamel: SM is more than talking about faith with others. It is about LIVING out faith with others. chsocm: @paulsteinbrueck No, less than 140 so you can leave room for RT! edkay77: T3 The only difference I see is church ppl are more likely to post faith-related topics/forwards but not much faith sharing rev_david: T3 - I think clergy / churches have been slower at adopting SocMed as a communication tool than businesses/brands iamepiscopalian: T3: It's hard, I bet for members of clergy to interact in and on SM sites as regular folk. Handle with care. ToddWaller: RT @drothamel: SM is more than talking about faith with others. It is about LIVING out faith with others. craho: @drothamel interesting. is that becuase clergy need to connect people? mgoins: I find that the discussion and many of your tweets throughout the day bring me back to my purpose. Thank you for that. Denise205: RT @RevWeb: I suspect there are spectators (lurkers) on this chat tonight. Bless you for being here. cephasmedia: T3 I'm a clergy person with a secular job. The distinction is between my personal accounts & professional ones. drothamel: @craho perhaps. There are shallow, annoying salespeople on SM, and thoughtful ones. Same for clergy. RchrdBott: Creating space for conversations - all of them sacred - sometimes specifically about the sacred. tijuanabecky: Yup..doing that..also in 2. RT @RevWeb: I suspect there are spectators (lurkers) on this chat tonight. Bless you for being here. MeredithGould: RT @RchrdBott: Creating space for conversations - all of them sacred - sometimes specifically about the sacred. RevWeb: T3 Some using SM to share prayer requests, pastoral care, evangelism & community bldg. rev_david: @iamepiscopalian I have a hard and fast rule. I am the same person as "Pastor David" as I am as "David." 12
  • 13. MeredithGould: I chat & write about everything -- for me, sacred & secular is always a mash-up! craho: @drothamel umm, yup. funny. cephasmedia: T3 To talk about my faith on my professional accounts would be...unprofessional. But I hope my faith informs what I say. naaho: RT @MeredithGould: I chat & write about everything -- for me, sacred & secular is always a mash- up!//agreed! rev_david: Yes, exactly. // RT @MeredithGould: I chat & write about everything -- for me, sacred & secular is always a mash-up! jameshooper: It's sad, I think the church is a bit late on using technology. I wish we would set the pace. skenow: T3 - those that do increase their availability beyond Sunday mornings MeredithGould: @drothamel I pride myself on being deeply shallow...about my hair jodyms: RT @MeredithGould: I chat & write about everything -- for me, sacred & secular is always a mash- up! mirgray: @rev_david Yes. I have that rule too as a lay person. I am integrated whole not a fractured self. drothamel: @MeredithGould "deeply shallow." I like that. LOL. cephasmedia: T3: Not sure I've seen lay ministers use SM as lay ministers...has anyone? Denise205: @cephasmedia Exactly. Faith can inform the content without screaming about specific religious topics. RchrdBott: Often clergy seem to use our 'public face' on s/m... where people seem to want to meet who we really are. MeredithGould: RT @RchrdBott: Often clergy seem to use our 'public face' on s/m... where people seem to want to meet who we really are. paulsteinbrueck: @MeredithGould Since everything is created by God and for God everything is sacred. Nothing is secular. craho: @MeredithGould @Denise205 @cephasmedia thats the best kind. skenow: RT @paulsteinbrueck: Since everything is created by God and for God everything is sacred. Nothing is secular. mirgray: @RchrdBott Clergy are in relationship business so you have to be open to intimacy. No? rev_david: @MeredithGould Yup :-) 13
  • 14. RchrdBott: Often the info about the bazaar or the topic of the reflection gets tweeted, when ppl what to hear why either is important (?) RevWeb: RT @paulsteinbrueck: @MeredithGould Since everything is created by God and for God everything is sacred. Nothing is secular. naaho: lot of clergy use "no time" excuse. I counter w:but if u saw church memb in gstore, u wuldnt brush them off. c SM as gstore. CandiceBenbow: Agreed. RT @jameshooper: It's sad, I think the church is a bit late on using technology. I wish we would set the pace. craho: i find many clergy forget that their sm face is also a very public face. the immaturity is frustrating klamach: I recently decided to shatter my anonymity on both Twitter and my blog, I figured I might as well witness as myself RchrdBott: @mirgray Should? Yes. Are? Not always. (This is an introvert tweeting. *grin*) drothamel: @naaho ask them if they "don't have time" for evangelism and stewardship. SM is just an extension. MeredithGould: RT @drothamel: @naaho ask them if they "don't have time" for evangelism and stewardship. SM is just an extension. klamach: <--not clergy by the way rev_david: Simul iustus saint & sinner; pastor and father; liturgist and friend; nice guy and SOB; preacher and failure. StJamesNL: I'm a lay minister... but mindful that I tweet for the faith community... Not just for myself CandiceBenbow: @jameshooper: We're using it for fundraising and "platform" launching. But I think more could definitely be done for outreach. cephasmedia: I have sympathy with the "don't have time" reason. There are lots of demands on time; is sm the best use of time? jameshooper: SM has the greatest opportunity for us to show the world that we're not only about Sunday. craho: @MeredithGould @craho ha! love cheetos. MeredithGould: If we're baptized, we're ministers...and some are ordained. penelopepiscopl: @rev_david Nice. CandiceBenbow: RT @drothamel: RT @RchrdBott: Often clergy seem to use our public face on s/m where people seem to want to meet who we really are. iamepiscopalian: RT @MeredithGould: If we're baptized, we're ministers...and some are ordained. 14
  • 15. drothamel: RT @MeredithGould: If we're baptized, we're ministers...and some are ordained. craho: @cephasmedia best use of time? don’t know. but a good one and one that plants see for the future, yes. RchrdBott: @mirgray Ephemeral, but with google stick around forever. I think, sometimes, clergy r afraid of words coming back to bite us. :) chsocm: Coming up on the hour, folks! A few minutes to closing prayer. penelopepiscopl: @cephasmedia SM is another way to build relationships. We make time, just as we would w/phone or hosp visits. RevWeb: Just curious. What was the conversation at coffee hour when the 1st phones appeared in town? Pastor on fone too much? Not visiting? naaho: @cephasmedia @penelopepiscopl I think it is worth time b/c ppl are more "vulnerable" "accessible" & it IS community. paulsteinbrueck: @cephasmedia I agree. If you don't have time for social media, you don't have time for people. revrevwine: @cephasmedia everything is headed digital...SM is the tip of iceberg... Gutenberg is gone... we must learn to comm in digital world rev_david: "No time" Doing home visits, I'm doing good to get to 4-5 homes in a week. With SocMed, I can reach 100+ members multiple times. mgoins: And just think, the Library of Congress is capturing all of this. We can look back in 5, 10, 20 years and see how far we've come. revrevwine: social about learning a new way to communicate the content we are all so good at creating iamepiscopalian: RT @rev_david: "No time" On Sunday, I preach to 170 ppl. During the week with SocMed, I can reach my exponentially more. chsocm: This is such a great conversation and I know I'll find even more gems when I review the transcript. cephasmedia: Wow! The thing is, "social media" is a panoply of options. HOW to use sm? edkay77: SM is also a way to engage people who aren't as able to say what they want to say in person (especially youth). mgoins: In reference to my last post: http://blogs.loc.gov/loc/2010/04/how-tweet-it-is-library-acquires- entire-twitter-archive/ RchrdBott: AMEN! RT This is such a great conversation and I know I'll find even more gems when I review the transcript. rev_heather: RT @RevWeb: SM may be the best ecumenical vehicle since Vatican II. 15
  • 16. klamach: RT @edkay77: SM is also a way to engage people who aren't as able to say what they want to say in person (especially youth). chsocm: The transcript of tonight’s chat will be posted on http://tinyurl.com/623leed within a few hours. CandiceBenbow: RT @paulsteinbrueck: @cephasmedia I agree. If you don't have time for social media, you don't have time for people. penelopepiscopl: @cephasmedia Do what you like / are already doing first. watch others. branch out. enjoy! This is what I do training w/clergy for. naaho: @rev_david @mirgray was hoping youd say that so clearly! penelopepiscopl: @cephasmedia You don't have to do it all. Just start somewhere. mgoins: @rev_david Excellent focus on your audience :-) tijuanabecky: RT @paulsteinbrueck: @cephasmedia I agree. If you don't have time for social media, you don't have time for people. Denise205: @mgoins That still gets me! We'll laugh at the archives, I'm sure--just like at a physical time capsule. chsocm: Guess what? We coming up on the hour . You're welcome to stay & chat. Meanwhile, we conclude with this prayer from Compline: cephasmedia: I should explain that I'm a sm consultant. I'm all about encouraging people to use sm. :) chsocm: Guide us waking, O Lord, and guard us sleeping; that awake we may watch with Christ & asleep we may rest in peace iamepiscopalian: RT @cephasmedia: For me, question isn't "SHOULD clergy use sm" but "HOW". CandiceBenbow: Young people aren't packing churches but they're flooding Twitter, Facebook and FourSquare. The Church needs a presence there. chsocm: We’re at the hour. Thanks to all for your contributions & insights. Join us again, next Tuesday @9pm EDT. 16