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Pitfalls
                                       of Joint Ventures



                                                   Presented by:
                                                   David A. Rose
                                                Principal Attorney
                                             Rose Consulting Law Firm
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What is a Teaming Arrangement?

      “Contractor team arrangement,” as used in this
        subpart, means an arrangement in which—

             – Two or more companies form a partnership or joint
               venture to act as a potential prime contractor

             – A potential prime contractor agrees with one or
               more other companies to have them act as its
               subcontractors under a specified Government
               contract or acquisition program.

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Teaming is not an SBA Creature
                     • SBA regulations do not address teams where
                       they address joint ventures
                            – Joint ventures, a corollary of teaming will be
                              addressed next hour
                     • Where SBA addresses joint ventures, they
                       discuss exceptions and application of affiliation
                     • SBA case law; however, discusses several
                       concepts and the application of a very specific
                       type of affiliation referred to as an ostensible
                       subcontractor which we will discuss this
                       hour.                                               We Build Our Relationships
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What are the Benefits?

      • General benefit for all concerns both large and
        small:
            - The team is able to compete for larger more
              technically complex contracts by combining the
              capabilities and past performance of various team
              members.
            - The large prime firm meets subcontracting
              requirements
            - The small prime fills in missing needs

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Advantage of Teaming, cont.

      • Agencies may consider an offeror’s subcontractor’s
        capabilities and experience under relevant
        evaluation factors, where the RFP does not prohibit
        the consideration of a subcontractor’s experience in
        the evaluation of proposals (Roca Management
        Education & Training, Inc., January 15, 2004, GAO, B-
        293067).
      • The prime contractor is solely responsible for
        meeting all contract requirements, including the
        Limitations on Subcontracting percentage
      • Must watch out for Ostensible Subcontractor
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Ostensible Subcontractor

      • An ostensible subcontractor is a subcontractor that performs
        primary and vital requirements, or a subcontractor upon
        which the prime contractor is unusually reliant.

      • A contractor and its ostensible subcontractor are treated as
        joint venturers, and therefore affiliates, for size determination
        purposes.

      • 13 CFR 121.103(h)(4)


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Ostensible Case Study

      • Recent Case on Affiliation and Ostensible
        Subcontractors –
        http://www.roseconsultingllc.org/Summary_of_Mor
        ris-Griffin_v.pdf
             – Morris‐Griffin v. C&L Service Corporation, 2010 WL
               3221975 (E.D. Va)
             – Large HUD loan processing company teamed with janitorial
               8(a) company to win 8(a) set-aside contact to process
               loans for HUD – found to have fraudulently circumvented
               the SBA rules by using a nominal 8(a) contractor.
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Terms - Pitfall

      • Get your Terms and Conditions Down in Writing
        before you Team or Joint Venture
      • Teaming and JV’ing begins as a honeymoon
      • If you do not and Something goes bad, it will go
        really bad
      • Problems will be avoided if you address them before
        you start
      • Do you remember folks that roomed with their best
        friend in college?
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Why is this so important?

      • It goes back to J Sutter’s Mill
         – Or perhaps the Chubaccah defense for South Park
            fans
      • Two best friends go to Sacramento in 1848 to mine
        for gold
      • Best friends since 6 years old
      • One finds gold first while panning
      • Out comes Bowie knife
      • Money changes everything!!!
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Joint Ventures

      • A joint venture is an association of individuals and/or
        concerns with interests in any degree or proportion by way of
        contract, express or implied, consorting to engage in and carry
        out no more than three specific or limited-purpose business
        ventures for joint profit over a two year period, for which
        purpose they combine their efforts, property, money, skill, or
        knowledge, but not on a continuing or permanent basis for
        conducting business generally.
      • This means that the joint venture entity cannot have more
        than 3 contracts over a two year period, starting from the
        date of the submission of the first offer (3-in-2 rule). New Rule
        March 2011 – Not so new now, but still misused
      •    13 CFR 121.103(h)
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That was SBA’s Definition
      • The real definition of a joint venture is a little more generic
        and these are done all the time in the commercial industry:
      • A joint venture is an association of individuals and/or
        concerns with interests in any degree or proportion by way of
        contract, express or implied, consorting to engage in and carry
        out specific or limited-purpose business ventures for joint
        profit, for which purpose they combine their efforts, property,
        money, skill, or knowledge.
      • Quite often in Federal contracting, as well as in the
        commercial sector, you will see large conglomerates join
        forces to JV and pursue large contracts.
         • Lockheed Martin and Boeing
         • CH2M Hill and Clark Nexsen
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But for Our Purposes…
      • Let’s stick with SBA’s version, as it is these
        Rules we are playing by and
      • SBA makes the rules
      • Given SBA makes the rules:
        • What do we have to do to qualify to do one of
          these joint ventures?
        • Well first, to participate ourselves, we must be
          small. As many of you know this is the first
          pitfall – Small in SBA terms is like to ask
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So we will form a joint Venture then
      • Joint Ventures
         – Formal joint venture (Separate legal entity, such as
           LLC)
         – Informal (no new entity formed)
      • Which is Best?
         – An informal joint venture provides no protections
           between the parent companies, but we can give
           different percentages of profit that ownership.
         – A formal joint venture (Inc or LLC) at least shields
           the parent from liability from the subs.
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Why is this so important?

                  Joint Venture exceptions to Affiliation
      • A joint venture is a small business concern when the
        combined revenue/employees of all joint venture
        partners do not exceed the small business size standard.
        General rule – all joint ventures are affiliated! Pitfall.
      • Exception, a joint venture is considered small when each
        joint venture partner is small, and:
            • The procurement is bundled; or
            • For a procurement having a receipts based size standard, the
              dollar value of the procurement exceeds ½ the size standard; or
            • For a procurements having an employee based size standard, the
              dollar value of the procurement exceeds $10 million.
            • CHART available at roseconsultingllc.org
            13 CFR 121.103(h)(3)                                   We Build Our Relationships
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Major Pitfalls for Joint Ventures

      • Do not violate the “3-in-2 rule” – three contracts
        won in two year period, by the same joint
        venture entity.
      • If you violate the rule, general affiliation will be
        found.
      • 13 CFR 124.513(a) requires formal approval by
        SBA of all joint ventures pursuing 8(a) contracts.
      • Performance of work requirements apply to
        cooperative efforts of the joint venture entity.

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8(a) Joint Ventures
      • For competitive 8(a) procurements that meet 13 CFR
        124.513(b)(1)(ii):
         – 8(a) firm can joint venture with one or more other
           businesses and the joint venture is considered
           small, so long as each is small under the size
           standard for the procurement, and;
         – The first pitfall here is in knowing the rules – first
           rule about the rules is that they change and many
           are exercised with discretion – Let’s discuss what
           that means….
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Mentor Protégé 8(a) JV
    • For joint venture between 8(a) protégé and SBA
      approved mentor:

          • The joint venture is considered small, so long as the 8(a)
            protégé is small for the procurement.
                                                                             • 13 CFR 124.513(b)(3)


          • The joint venture may bid as a small business on any federal
            prime procurement.
                                                                            13 CFR 121.103(h)(3)(iii)

                                             PITFALL – HUBZONES!!!
                                             13 CFR § 126.616(a) – HUBZones can only JV
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8(a) Joint Ventures

      • For any 8(a) joint venture between 8(a) business and another
        firm to perform an 8(a) contract (new 40% rule):

            • If the JV is populated the 8(a) firm must perform 40% of the
              work of the JV and none of the work may be subcontracted
              out to JV members

            • If unpopulated (other than admin personnel), the 8(a)
              prime must perform 40% of the work performed by the
              total amount of work subcontracted to members of the JV.

            13 CFR 124.513(d)
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What have we learned about JVs?
      • All Joint Ventures are affiliated – Be aware of
        exceptions
      • The affiliated joint venture may qualify for an
        exception under SBA – Be careful who drafts JV
        agreement - Pitfall
      • A small business can never joint venture with a large
        business, unless it is an approved SBA 8(a) mentor
        protégé relationship – Pitfall – Only SBA approved
        M/P
      • SBA makes up the rules we play by here
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The Rules

      • Here are the rules
            •     Size regulations -- 13 CFR Part 121
            •     8(a) & SDB regulations -- 13 CFR Part 124
            •     Government Contracting Programs – 13 CFR Part 125.6
            •     HUBZone Program – 13 CFR Part 126
            •     Service Disabled Veteran Program – 13 CFR 125
            •     Women-Owned Small Business Program-13 CFR 127


      • Questions about Joint Ventures?
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Questions?




        David A. Rose                            drose@roseconsultingllc.org
        Principal Attorney                       (678) 854-0222
        Rose Consulting Law Firm                 http://www.roseconsultingllc.org




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Pitfall of Joint Ventures

  • 1. Pitfalls of Joint Ventures Presented by: David A. Rose Principal Attorney Rose Consulting Law Firm We Build Our Relationships One Client at a Time Rose Consulting Law Firm - specializing in Government & Small Business Law
  • 2. What is a Teaming Arrangement? “Contractor team arrangement,” as used in this subpart, means an arrangement in which— – Two or more companies form a partnership or joint venture to act as a potential prime contractor – A potential prime contractor agrees with one or more other companies to have them act as its subcontractors under a specified Government contract or acquisition program. FAR 9.601 We Build Our Relationships One Client at a Time Rose Consulting Law Firm - specializing in Government & Small Business Law
  • 3. Teaming is not an SBA Creature • SBA regulations do not address teams where they address joint ventures – Joint ventures, a corollary of teaming will be addressed next hour • Where SBA addresses joint ventures, they discuss exceptions and application of affiliation • SBA case law; however, discusses several concepts and the application of a very specific type of affiliation referred to as an ostensible subcontractor which we will discuss this hour. We Build Our Relationships One Client at a Time Rose Consulting Law Firm - specializing in Government & Small Business Law
  • 4. What are the Benefits? • General benefit for all concerns both large and small: - The team is able to compete for larger more technically complex contracts by combining the capabilities and past performance of various team members. - The large prime firm meets subcontracting requirements - The small prime fills in missing needs We Build Our Relationships One Client at a Time Rose Consulting Law Firm - specializing in Government & Small Business Law
  • 5. Advantage of Teaming, cont. • Agencies may consider an offeror’s subcontractor’s capabilities and experience under relevant evaluation factors, where the RFP does not prohibit the consideration of a subcontractor’s experience in the evaluation of proposals (Roca Management Education & Training, Inc., January 15, 2004, GAO, B- 293067). • The prime contractor is solely responsible for meeting all contract requirements, including the Limitations on Subcontracting percentage • Must watch out for Ostensible Subcontractor relationship with its subcontractor(s) We Build Our Relationships One Client at a Time Rose Consulting Law Firm - specializing in Government & Small Business Law
  • 6. Ostensible Subcontractor • An ostensible subcontractor is a subcontractor that performs primary and vital requirements, or a subcontractor upon which the prime contractor is unusually reliant. • A contractor and its ostensible subcontractor are treated as joint venturers, and therefore affiliates, for size determination purposes. • 13 CFR 121.103(h)(4) We Build Our Relationships One Client at a Time Rose Consulting Law Firm - specializing in Government & Small Business Law
  • 7. Ostensible Case Study • Recent Case on Affiliation and Ostensible Subcontractors – http://www.roseconsultingllc.org/Summary_of_Mor ris-Griffin_v.pdf – Morris‐Griffin v. C&L Service Corporation, 2010 WL 3221975 (E.D. Va) – Large HUD loan processing company teamed with janitorial 8(a) company to win 8(a) set-aside contact to process loans for HUD – found to have fraudulently circumvented the SBA rules by using a nominal 8(a) contractor. We Build Our Relationships One Client at a Time Rose Consulting Law Firm - specializing in Government & Small Business Law
  • 8. Terms - Pitfall • Get your Terms and Conditions Down in Writing before you Team or Joint Venture • Teaming and JV’ing begins as a honeymoon • If you do not and Something goes bad, it will go really bad • Problems will be avoided if you address them before you start • Do you remember folks that roomed with their best friend in college? We Build Our Relationships One Client at a Time Rose Consulting Law Firm - specializing in Government & Small Business Law
  • 9. Why is this so important? • It goes back to J Sutter’s Mill – Or perhaps the Chubaccah defense for South Park fans • Two best friends go to Sacramento in 1848 to mine for gold • Best friends since 6 years old • One finds gold first while panning • Out comes Bowie knife • Money changes everything!!! We Build Our Relationships One Client at a Time Rose Consulting Law Firm - specializing in Government & Small Business Law
  • 10. Joint Ventures • A joint venture is an association of individuals and/or concerns with interests in any degree or proportion by way of contract, express or implied, consorting to engage in and carry out no more than three specific or limited-purpose business ventures for joint profit over a two year period, for which purpose they combine their efforts, property, money, skill, or knowledge, but not on a continuing or permanent basis for conducting business generally. • This means that the joint venture entity cannot have more than 3 contracts over a two year period, starting from the date of the submission of the first offer (3-in-2 rule). New Rule March 2011 – Not so new now, but still misused • 13 CFR 121.103(h) We Build Our Relationships One Client at a Time Rose Consulting Law Firm - specializing in Government & Small Business Law
  • 11. That was SBA’s Definition • The real definition of a joint venture is a little more generic and these are done all the time in the commercial industry: • A joint venture is an association of individuals and/or concerns with interests in any degree or proportion by way of contract, express or implied, consorting to engage in and carry out specific or limited-purpose business ventures for joint profit, for which purpose they combine their efforts, property, money, skill, or knowledge. • Quite often in Federal contracting, as well as in the commercial sector, you will see large conglomerates join forces to JV and pursue large contracts. • Lockheed Martin and Boeing • CH2M Hill and Clark Nexsen We Build Our Relationships One Client at a Time Rose Consulting Law Firm - specializing in Government & Small Business Law
  • 12. But for Our Purposes… • Let’s stick with SBA’s version, as it is these Rules we are playing by and • SBA makes the rules • Given SBA makes the rules: • What do we have to do to qualify to do one of these joint ventures? • Well first, to participate ourselves, we must be small. As many of you know this is the first pitfall – Small in SBA terms is like to ask • What shape is a cloud? Let’s discuss… We Build Our Relationships One Client at a Time Rose Consulting Law Firm - specializing in Government & Small Business Law
  • 13. So we will form a joint Venture then • Joint Ventures – Formal joint venture (Separate legal entity, such as LLC) – Informal (no new entity formed) • Which is Best? – An informal joint venture provides no protections between the parent companies, but we can give different percentages of profit that ownership. – A formal joint venture (Inc or LLC) at least shields the parent from liability from the subs. We Build Our Relationships One Client at a Time Rose Consulting Law Firm - specializing in Government & Small Business Law
  • 14. Why is this so important? Joint Venture exceptions to Affiliation • A joint venture is a small business concern when the combined revenue/employees of all joint venture partners do not exceed the small business size standard. General rule – all joint ventures are affiliated! Pitfall. • Exception, a joint venture is considered small when each joint venture partner is small, and: • The procurement is bundled; or • For a procurement having a receipts based size standard, the dollar value of the procurement exceeds ½ the size standard; or • For a procurements having an employee based size standard, the dollar value of the procurement exceeds $10 million. • CHART available at roseconsultingllc.org 13 CFR 121.103(h)(3) We Build Our Relationships One Client at a Time Rose Consulting Law Firm - specializing in Government & Small Business Law
  • 15. Major Pitfalls for Joint Ventures • Do not violate the “3-in-2 rule” – three contracts won in two year period, by the same joint venture entity. • If you violate the rule, general affiliation will be found. • 13 CFR 124.513(a) requires formal approval by SBA of all joint ventures pursuing 8(a) contracts. • Performance of work requirements apply to cooperative efforts of the joint venture entity. We Build Our Relationships One Client at a Time Rose Consulting Law Firm - specializing in Government & Small Business Law
  • 16. 8(a) Joint Ventures • For competitive 8(a) procurements that meet 13 CFR 124.513(b)(1)(ii): – 8(a) firm can joint venture with one or more other businesses and the joint venture is considered small, so long as each is small under the size standard for the procurement, and; – The first pitfall here is in knowing the rules – first rule about the rules is that they change and many are exercised with discretion – Let’s discuss what that means…. We Build Our Relationships One Client at a Time Rose Consulting Law Firm - specializing in Government & Small Business Law
  • 17. Mentor Protégé 8(a) JV • For joint venture between 8(a) protégé and SBA approved mentor: • The joint venture is considered small, so long as the 8(a) protégé is small for the procurement. • 13 CFR 124.513(b)(3) • The joint venture may bid as a small business on any federal prime procurement. 13 CFR 121.103(h)(3)(iii) PITFALL – HUBZONES!!! 13 CFR § 126.616(a) – HUBZones can only JV w/ HUBZones We Build Our Relationships One Client at a Time Rose Consulting Law Firm - specializing in Government & Small Business Law
  • 18. 8(a) Joint Ventures • For any 8(a) joint venture between 8(a) business and another firm to perform an 8(a) contract (new 40% rule): • If the JV is populated the 8(a) firm must perform 40% of the work of the JV and none of the work may be subcontracted out to JV members • If unpopulated (other than admin personnel), the 8(a) prime must perform 40% of the work performed by the total amount of work subcontracted to members of the JV. 13 CFR 124.513(d) We Build Our Relationships One Client at a Time Rose Consulting Law Firm - specializing in Government & Small Business Law
  • 19. What have we learned about JVs? • All Joint Ventures are affiliated – Be aware of exceptions • The affiliated joint venture may qualify for an exception under SBA – Be careful who drafts JV agreement - Pitfall • A small business can never joint venture with a large business, unless it is an approved SBA 8(a) mentor protégé relationship – Pitfall – Only SBA approved M/P • SBA makes up the rules we play by here – Pitfall – Can be exercised w/ discretion We Build Our Relationships One Client at a Time Rose Consulting Law Firm - specializing in Government & Small Business Law
  • 20. The Rules • Here are the rules • Size regulations -- 13 CFR Part 121 • 8(a) & SDB regulations -- 13 CFR Part 124 • Government Contracting Programs – 13 CFR Part 125.6 • HUBZone Program – 13 CFR Part 126 • Service Disabled Veteran Program – 13 CFR 125 • Women-Owned Small Business Program-13 CFR 127 • Questions about Joint Ventures? We Build Our Relationships One Client at a Time Rose Consulting Law Firm - specializing in Government & Small Business Law
  • 21. Questions? David A. Rose drose@roseconsultingllc.org Principal Attorney (678) 854-0222 Rose Consulting Law Firm http://www.roseconsultingllc.org We Build Our Relationships One Client at a Time Rose Consulting Law Firm - specializing in Government & Small Business Law