Saint Augustine, Philo, Origen, Clement & Saint Thomas Aquinas have seriously damaged the Church and the Christian faith due to their Greek learning and application to the scripture interpretation. However, God chose to reveal Himself and His ways through the Jews. Hence, the scriptures are to be studied with the viewpoint of the Jews. This makes huge difference - with Salvation itself at stake. The faith and commitment of these early Church leaders to The Lord are not questioned but only their method of interpretation of certain vital doctrines. This power-point seeks to give a detailed explanation of how the Greek thinking entered the Church and wrongly influenced and damaged Christian faith. Way to escape this adulteration is given. I strongly recommend you to listen to the audio/video messages of Pr. David Pawson and Dr. Karl D Coke and several of the Messianic Jewish Scholars for further study.
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De'Greecing' the Church- Augustine's / Thomas Aquinas' errors damaging the Church & Christian Faith
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GREEK THINKING INDUCED
WRONG DOCTRINES IN THE CHURCH/
DAMAGES TO THE CHRISTIAN FAITH-SOURCE:
PR.DAVID PAWSON
BR.STEPHEN JEFFERIES
& OTHER SOURCES
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4. ANCIENT GREECE EXERTED
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5. •IMMENSE DAMAGE TO THE CHRISTIAN FAITH.
•WE ARE THE VICTIMS OF GREEK INFLUENCE
•NOT TO MESSIANIC JEWS –
AS WE SHALL SEE LATER.
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6. GREEK INFLUENCE –
•ALIEN TO THE CHURCH
•ALIEN TO OUR FAITH
•BUT NOT NOTICED BY MANY IN CHURCH
•THE BIBLE SHOWS OUR HEBREW ROOTS ,
NOT GREEK ONES.
•HEBREW ROOTS FAR MORE ANCIENT –
BEFORE GREECE ENTERED HISTORY AROUND 100 BC.
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7. TWO ANCIENT WORLD VIEWS
HEBREWTHINKING GREEK THINKING
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8. STONE WORK -
UNIQUE AND DIFFERENT
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9. INTRODUCED
•DEMOCRACY IN THE PLACE OF MONARCHY
•CITY STATES RULE.
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10. SPORTS OBSESSION – RELIGION LIKE.
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11. •CULTIVATION OF THE BODY
•DISPLAY OF THE HUMAN BODY
•SPORTS ONLY FOR MEN
•SPORTS IN THE NUDE
•MODERN DAY OLYMPICS COMMENCED
FROM ANCIENT GREECE OLYMPIAD.
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12. •PRIORITIZED DEBATES –
LOGIC – REASON
IDEALS – IDEAS.
•LOGIC, ETHICS & VALUES –
TO MAKE BAD MEN AS GOOD MEN
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13. •ELEVATED
LEISURE
ENTERTAINMENT
THEATRE PERFORMANCE.
DISCUSSIONS & DEBATES
LIBRARIES FOR LEARNING
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14. GREEKS LIVE FOR ENTERTAINMENT.
ELEVATED THEATRE PERFORMANCE.
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15. TWO ANCIENT WORLD VIEWS
•LIVE FOR WORK &
WORSHIP.
•HOLY DAY.
•‘AVODAH’ – WORK IS
DIGNIFIED & SACRED.
•DIGNITY OF ALL LABOUR.
•MOST SERVANTS OF GOD
MANUAL WORKERS :
FISHERMEN, SHEPHERDS,
FIG PICKER, CARPENTER,
TENT MAKER..
•LIVE FOR LEISURE.
•HOLIDAY.
•WORK IS NECESSARY EVIL.
•WORK IS THROUGH SLAVES.
•GREEKS PREFERRED-INTELLECTUAL
WORK.
•MANUAL WORK –
FOR THOSE LOW IN
STRATA.
•2/3RD POPULATION SLAVES &
IMMIGRANTS.
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16. ENTERED GREECE AROUND 100 BC
•DURING THE 400 YEARS – ‘THE SILENT YEARS’
WHEN GOD DID NOT SPEAK TO THE JEWS
•NO WORD OF GOD
•NO MIRACLES
•ONLY SILENCE
•BUT THE DEVIL BECAME MOST ACTIVE
DURING THE PERIOD BEFORE ADVENT OF
JESUS CHRIST.
•GREEK PHILOSOPHERS ARISE
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17. GREEKS PRIORITIZED DEBATES.
“IDEAS” BASED PHILOSOPHY OF “IDEAL”.
LOGIC, ETHICS & VALUES
LEAD TO MORAL BEHAVIOUR.
TO MAKE BAD MEN AS GOOD MEN
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18. FIRST PHILOSOPHER OF REPUTE
SOCRATES
•TAUGHT BY QUESTION & ANSWER METHOD.
•DID NOT WRITE BOOKS.
•CONDEMNED TO DEATH BY SUICIDE
ON CHARGES THAT HE WAS:
AN ATHEIST WHO CORRUPTED
THE MINDS OF YOUNG PEOPLE.
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19. GREEK PHILOSOPHERS
MAJOR INFLUENCE ON WESTERN CIVILIZATIONS
THROUGH
EDUCATION SYSTEM –
“THINKING” PROCESS EMPHASIZED.
BIBLE SAYS, “AS A MAN THINKS, SO IS HE!”
THINKING SHAPES CHARACTER & LIFESTYLE:
AS INDIVIDUALS
AS SOCIETY
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20. TWO ANCIENT WORLD VIEWS
•GOD’S CREATION IS
GOOD.
•THERE IS
NO DISTINCTION
OF SPIRITUAL &
PHYSICAL.
•SPIRITUAL IS GOOD.
•MATERIAL WORLD IS BAD:
EVIL.
•BOTH ARE TOTALLY
SEPARATED.
•SPIRITUAL – TOP OF LADDER.
•INTELLECTUAL –
SECOND IN LADDER.
•PHYSICAL IS LOWEST IN
LADDER.
•SHARP DIVISION OF LIFE.
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21. TWO ANCIENT WORLD VIEWS –
•THERE IS NO DISTINCTION.
•THERE IS
NO SEPARATION OF
BODY & SOUL BUT IS A
“LIVING SOUL”
(LIVING BODY)
•SOUL & BODY
SEPARATED.
‘SOS’ DANGER SIGNAL DOES NOT MEAN,
‘SAVE MY SOUL’ ALONE, BUT AS ‘KEEP MY BODY ALIVE’.
GREEK INFLUENCED CHRISTIANS CONSIDER BODY AS OF LESS VALUE.
BUT BIBLE SAYS, ‘SAVE THE WHOLE PERSON’
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22. TWO ANCIENT WORLD VIEWS-
•SIN ALONE IS
SECULAR.
•EVERYTHING ELSE IS
SACRED.
•SACRED & SECULAR
SEPARATED.
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23. TWO ANCIENT WORLD VIEWS-
•NATURAL &
SUPERNATURAL
SEPARATION.
•CREATOR & CREATION
SEPARATION.
•DEVIL IS NOT
SUPERNATURAL BUT
A CREATION.
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24. TWO ANCIENT WORLD VIEWS-
•RELIGION DIVISION –
ETERNAL &
TEMPORAL.
•NO SUCH DIVISION.
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25. SOCRATES - I PHILOSOPHER OF REPUTE.
ON BEING SENTENCED TO DEATH BY POISON:
“MY SOUL IS BEING RELEASED
FROM THE PRISON OF MY BODY”.
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26. MAN IS HELD PRISON IN A BODY WHICH IS
EVIL & BAD.
HENCE, DEATH BECOMES A FRIEND RATHER
THAN ENEMY AS IT RELEASES THE REAL ME
TO BE UNITED WITH THE
‘SINGLE COLLECTIVE CONSCIOUSNESS’.
HIS REAL PERSON BEING RELEASED INTO REALITY
(LOSING SOUL’S IDENTITY)
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27. HENCE, DEATH IS
DESIRABLE.
•DEATH IS NOT NATURAL.
•IT IS AN EXECUTION.
•DEATH SEPARATES.
•IT ENDS COMMUNION
BETWEEN :
1. ME & MY FAMILY
2. GOD & THE DEAD.
•HENCE, DEATH IS AN
ENEMY OF GOD &
MEN.
THE BIBLE SAYS:
‘MY HOLY ONE WILL NOT ROT’
(OUR BODIES ROT BECAUSE ROTTEN MEN LIVED IN IT).
‘JESUS CHRIST CONQUERED DEATH’.
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28. SEPARATION CAUSED CONCLUSIONS:
• SPIRITUAL THINGS ARE GOOD.
• PHYSICAL THINGS ARE BAD.
• SOUL IS SOURCE OF GOOD.
• BODY IS SOURCE OF EVIL.
• GOD IS GOOD! HENCE, HE IS SEPARATED FROM
PHYSICAL REALM.
• TASK OF SOUL: GET RID OF EVIL INFLUENCE OF MY BODY.
• HENCE, BE SET FREE FROM PHYSICAL WORLD
(PHYSICAL BODIES) IN ORDER TO BE GOOD.
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29. CONSEQUENCE OF DUALISM = CONFUSION
EXAMPLES
•IF SPIRITUALITY IS MORE IMPORTANT IN ONE’S VIEW,
THEN AESTHETIC VALUES BECOME MORAL VALUES.
•SUNDAY CHURCH CLOTHES THEMSELVES BECOME
IDENTIFICATION OF MORALITY
(ALL WHITE DRESS/ PILGRIMAGE DRESS CODE,
NOT WEARING JEWELS ETC..)
•CULTURAL LIFE BECOMES IDENTIFICATION OF MORALITY.
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30. •GOD IS SPIRITUAL – DISTANT.
•NOT CONNECTED WITH
PHYSICAL MORTALS.
•NOT INTERESTED IN PHYSICAL
MORTALS.
•HENCE, GOD CANNOT HAVE
MADE PHYSICAL UNIVERSE.
•HENCE, IN BETWEEN GOD &
PHYSICAL UNIVERSE, A DEMI-GOD
/ DEMI-URGE (SEMI
GOD) AS AN AGENT OF GOD
•CREATED & MANAGED
PHYISCAL UNIVERSE.
•CREATOR & CREATION
SEPARATION.
•LORD GOD IS CREATOR.
•EVERYTHING ELSE IS HIS
CREATION.
•DEVIL IS NOT
SUPERNATURAL BUT
SIMPLY A CREATION.
•NO SUCH DIVISION OF
SPIRITUAL AND PHYSICAL.
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32. PLATO
ON
GOVERNANCE
‘
’
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33. PLATO’S ATHENS ACADEMY
FOR STUDENTS FROM ALL OVER
THE KNOWN WORLD –
HENCE, WORLDWIDE INFLUENCE
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34. WROTE ABOUT 400 BOOKS.
(THOMAS ACQUINAS WAS INFLUENCED BY HIM)
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35. •INVENTOR OF LOGIC.
ARISTOTLE
•CONTRIBUTED TO
BORN 384 BC
BIOLOGY, PHYSICS, ETHICS,
POLITICS, POETRY.
•HELPED DEVELOP
SCIENTIFIC METHOD.
•HIS INVENTIONS IN
MEDICINE DOMINATED
WESTERN WORLD TILL
17TH CENTURY.
•TAUGHT AND TRAINED
ALEXANDER THE GREAT. GREEK THINKING INDUCED WRONG
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36. ARISTOTLE,
“PHYSICAL UNIVERSE NOT CREATED
BUT EXISTS ALWAYS. MANAGED IT
BY ITSELF”.
THEREBY INTRODUCED “ ” /
“ ”
(‘666’ SYMBOLISES THIS SELF GLORIFYING MAN).
HIS PHILOSOPHY INFLUENCED
NON-JEWISH FORMATIVE CHURCH LEADERS.
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37. EVOLUTION THEORY – EVOLVED FROM
MAN’S ‘IDEA / THINKING’
FIRST FORMULATED & TAUGHT BY ARISTOTLE.
ERASMUS DARWIN, AN ATHEIST & FOLLOWER OF
ARISTOTLE, TAUGHT THIS PRINCIPLE TO HIS
GRAND SON – CHARLES DARWIN, WHO PRESENTED
TO THE MODERN WORLD, “EVOLUTION OF SPECIES’
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38. 2 CENTRES OF LEARNING: BEFORE CHRIST
ATHENS- DIRECT INFLUENCE ON LIFE,
CULTURE, RELIGION, POLITICS, SPORTS.
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39. HEBREW THINKING PREVAILED IN JERUSALEM –
DESPITE SEVERE PERSECUTION
• DURING THE SILENT YEARS BEFORE THE ADVENT OF
JESUS CHRIST, GREECE BEGAN ITS MAJOR INFLUENCE IN
JERUSALEM, THROUGH THE GREEK INVADER GENERAL -
KING
• SPORTS ARENA BUILT & SPORTS PROMOTED.
• SET UP ZEUS IDOL IN THE TEMPLE OF THE GOD OF
ISRAEL, WHO ABHORS IDOLS.
• PIG SACRIFICED ON THE ALTAR OF THE GOD OF ISRAEL,
WHO ABHORS UNCLEAN ANIMALS.
• BROTHELS SET UP IN THE TEMPLE OF HOLY GOD OF
ISRAEL.
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40. ‘
’,
SAYS DANIEL.
HE FORCED HELLENIZATION
UPON ISRAEL.
DEFEATED BY THE JEWS LED
BY BRAVE MACCABEES.
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41. GREEK INFLUENCE -
RISE OF “SADDUCEES” GROUP OF RICH PRIESTS
(HIGH PRIESTS & CHIEF PRIESTS)
IN JERUSALEM.
GREEK INFLUENCE:
DO NOT BELIEVE IN RESURRECTION.
DO NOT BELIEVE IN ANGELS.
DO NOT BELIEVE IN THE HOLY SPIRIT (ACTS 23:8)
COMPROMISED WITH RULERS FOR POSITION & PROFIT.
ANNAS & CAIAPHAS WERE SADDUCEES.
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42. 2nd CENTRE OF LEARNING:
WHERE MANY JEWS OF DIASPORA SETTLED.
ALEXANDRIA – MORE SUBTLE INFLUENCE:
ON DIASPORA OF JEWISH SCHOLARS FIRST,
ON CHRISTIAN SCHOLARS NEXT.
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43. A). GREEK TRANSLATION OF OLD TESTAMENT DONE
IN ALEXANDRIA BEFORE CHRIST BY 70 JEWISH
SCHOLARS FOR NON HEBREW SPEAKING
(BUT GREEK SPEAKING) DIASPORA OF JEWS.
THIS IS CALLED ‘ ’ ( ) VERSION OF THE
OLD TESTAMENT.
THROUGH THIS VERSION:
(NON CANONICAL AS PER
JEWISHSH BIBLE SCHOLARS) ENTERS OLD
TESTAMENT BIBLE IN ‘SEPTUAGINT’ VERSION.
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44. •AFTER CHRIST, JEROME OF
ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH
TRANSLATES ‘ ’ BIBLE
FROM GREEK SEPTUAGINT.
•DRAWN FROM WRONG VERSION, APOCRYPHA SECTION OF
BOOKS BECOMES PART OF ROMAN CATHOLIC BIBLE.
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45. 100% USEFUL BOOKS OF HISTORY OF ISRAEL DURING
‘THE SILENT YEARS’.
BUT NOT A SINGLE MENTION AS “THE LORD GOD SAID /
THE WORD OF GOD CAME TO” AS IT SAYS FOR 1000S
OF OCCASIONS IN THE SCRIPTURES.
NOT USED BY JESUS CHRIST IN HIS REFERENCES TO
SCRIPTURES.
IT IS MAN’S WRITING – NOT THE WRITING OF THE
HOLY SPIRIT INSPIRED MEN.
GOOD TO READ, BUT WRONG TO USE TO FORM BIBLICAL
DOCTRINES.
‘INTERCESSION FOR THE DEAD’ AROSE FROM A REFERENCE
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46. B). GREEK ‘ALLEGORICAL METHOD’ OF BIBLE
INTERPRETATION ENTERS.
•HIDDEN SPIRITUAL MEANINGS SOUGHT.
•BIBLE CODE IS SAID TO BE HIDDEN IN BIBLE.
•NO CONTROL OVER DOCTRINAL INTERPRETATIONS.
•‘EISOGESIS’ RESULTED
(READING INTO THE TEXT OF WHAT I WANT TO
SEE) INSTEAD OF
‘EXOGESIS’
(WHAT DOES THE PASSAGE LITERALLY SAYS).
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47. •STARTED IN ALEXANDRIA.
•GREEK THINKING:
TO FIND THE HIDDEN MEANING WITHIN THE
PHYSICAL WRITINGS.
‘PHYSICAL WRITING WILL HAVE
HIDDEN SPIRITUAL MEANING TO HAVE
REAL VALUE’ =
“ ”.
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48. BC PERIOD- INFLUENCED BY THIS
METHOD, JEWISH SCHOLAR ‘PHILO’
IMPACTED OTHER SCHOLARS.
HE INTRODUCED
‘DEMIGOD’ / ‘DEMIURGE’ IDEA
INTO JEWISH THINKING.
SAID THAT A DEMIGOD CREATED & MANAGED THE
UNIVERSE.
HE GAVE IT THE NAME ‘LOGOS’.
DID NOT CLARIFY WHO / WHAT THAT ‘LOGOS’ WAS.
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49. INITIALLY CHURCH WAS PROTECTED FROM
HELLENIZATION
FIRST CENTURY PERSECUTION DURING
THE ROMAN EMPIRE PROTECTED THE CHURCH
AS CHRISTIANS WERE DECLARED BY THE CAESAR AS
‘RELIGIO ILLECITA- OUTLAWS’
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50. ANNO DOMINI PERIOD-
2 PLACES OF ENCOUNTER BETWEEN JEWISH &
GREEK THINKING
1. WESTERN TURKEY –
REGION OF 7 CHURCHES OF REVELATION.
2. AFRICA – ALEXANDRIA
(WHERE PHILO CAME EARLIER).
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51. •CROSS ROADS OF EUROPE, AFRICA & ASIA.
•FERTILE AREA - WEALTHY- MONEY CURRENCY WAS INVENTED
HERE FOR TRANSACTIONS.
•GRECO ROMAN INFLUENCES + PAGAN PRACTICES FLOURISH.
•PERGAMUM WAS THE HEADQUARTERS OF SATAN.
•PROXIMITY TO PERGAMUM AFFECTED 7 CHURCHES IN THIS
REGION (IN PROPORTION TO PROXIMITY).
•IF THE CHURCH SURVIVES HERE,
IT COULD SURVIVE ANY WHERE ELSE.
•HENCE, JESUS CHRIST WRITES TO THESE 7 CHURCHES
IN PARTICULAR – REVELATION 2-3 CHAPTERS.
•TO WARN & PROTECT AGAINST THE GRECO ROMAN
INFLUENCES.
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52. WHERE WOULD THEY PUT JESUS?
• SACRED OR SECULAR SPHERE?
• SPIRITUAL OR PHYSICAL REALM?
• OR WOULD BE LIKE GREEK DEMI-GOD IN BETWEEN
AS AGENT OF GOD IN CREATION?
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53. GREEK INFLUENCE:
HERESY DEVELOPS:
a) ‘JESUS CANNOT BE BOTH GOD & MAN’.
b) ‘SPIRIT OF CHRIST MUST HAVE ENTERED HIM AT THE
TIME OF HIS BAPTISM AND LEFT HIM BEFORE DEATH”.
c) HE IS A DEMIGOD, AS AN AGENT OF GOD IN
CREATION.
•JEHOWAH WITNESS CULT FOLLOWS THIS INTERPRETATION.
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54. •APOSTLE JOHN WRITES THE GOSPEL &
3 EPISTLES TO COUNTER THESE HERESY.
•GOSPEL GIVES – 7 MIRACULOUS SIGNS THAT
JESUS CHRIST IS FULLY GOD –
7 “I AM” WITNESSES – THAT JESUS IS YHWH
•GIVES EVIDENCE THAT
JESUS CHRIST WAS FULLY HUMAN –
“JESUS WAS THIRSTY/ HUNGRY / WEPT..”
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55. •PROVES THAT JESUS CHRIST IS “LOGOS” BUT NOT THE
LOGOS LIKE PHILO’S IDEA OF DEMI-GOD BUT AS
“ETERNAL GOD”.
•EXHORTS DISCIPLES TO CONTINUE TRUSTING IN
JESUS CHRIST AS FULLY HUMAN & FULLY GOD
ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
•WARNS AGAINST GREEK ‘GNOSTIC (KNOWLEDGE)’
CULT TEACHINGS.
•MANY CHRISTIAN MARTYRS (SMYRNA, POLYCARP)
DIE IN THIS REGION &
GREEK INFLUENCE STOPPED HERE.
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57. AFRICA – ALEXANDRIA
(WHERE PHILO CAME EARLIER).
- AREA OF II ENCOUNTER
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58. •UNLESS THE SCRIPTURES SAYS A PASSAGE OF
ILLUSTRATION AS ALLEGORY, USING THIS METHOD
COULD BE AS DIVERSE AS THE INTERPRETER’S
IMAGINATION, TOTALLY FAR REMOVED FROM THE
AUTHOR’S INTENDED MEANING.
•EVERY ONE AND ANY ONE CAN FIND ANY MEANING AS
THEY WISH. SO WHICH ONE IS THE TRUTH?
•HENCE, IT IS HIGHLY DANGEROUS & ERRONEOUS TO USE
ALLEGORY METHOD WHERE NO ALLEGORY IS INDICATED
BY THE AUTHOR.
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59. IN EZEKIEL 47:1-12 THE RIVER FROM THE TEMPLE IS
THE PHYSICAL MIRACLE THAT THE LORD GOD WANTS
TO PERFORM MAKING THE DEAD SEA A FRESH WATER
SEA ALIVE WITH FISH. BUT PREACHERS USE ALLEGORY
METHOD TO MEAN ANYTHING BUT THIS SIMPLE
PHYSICAL FACT GIVEN AS A PROMISE OF GOD.
JOHN 21:1-11 THE 153 FISH IS A MIRACULOUS CATCH
OF LOTS OF FISH FOR THE APOSTLES WHO TOILED
FOR LONG WITHOUT GOOD HAUL. AN ALLEGORY
METHOD USED BY PREACHERS FINDS SO MANY
INTERPRETATIONS INSTEAD OF STATING THIS SIMPLE
FACT THAT THEY CAUGHT LOTS OF FISH.
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60. •ONE REASON FOR SO MANY
DIVERSE INTERPRETATIONS GIVING RISE
TO DENOMINATIONS!
•ONE REASON FOR CULTS FORMATION!
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61. AD 354-430 – TUNISIA – HIPPO TOWN –
NEW BISHOP AUGUSTINE (OF HIPPO) APPOINTED.
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62. ,
NORTH WEST AFRICA.
ONE OF THE MOST INFLUENTIAL PERSONS IN
CHURCH –BOTH ROMAN CATHOLIC &
PROTESTANT REFORMATION.
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63. •BORN ALGERIAN, BROUGHT UP IN ITALY,
•LEARNT .
•YOUNG AGE – FOLLOWER OF ‘
–
2ND MOST POPULAR RELIGION THEN.
•WITH DOCTRINES :
•‘BODY IS INCURABLY EVIL’
•‘DUALISM OF GOOD & EVIL PRINCIPLES
GOVERNING CREATION & LIFE’.
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64. •FOR SOUL, WHICH HE BELIEVED IS GOOD,
HE STUDIED PHILOSOPHY.
•FOR BODY, WHICH HE BELIEVED AS EVIL, HE
INDULGED IN MISTRESSES & HAD & LATER
ABANDONED HIS ILLEGITIMATE SON.
•UNDER SAINTLY BISHOP AMBROSE OF MILAN, ITALY,
HE HAD DRAMATIC CONVERSION.
•FIRST PREACHED PURE GOSPEL.
•LATER NEGATIVE THINKING (OF BODY &
PHYSICAL MATTER) BEGAN TO INFLUENCE
HIS TEACHING & PREACHING.
•LATER HIS NEO-PLATONIC & MANICHAEISM LEARNINGS
DOMINATED HIS DOGMATIC TEACHING.
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65. •AUGUSTINE STUDIED
TWO DIFFERENT RELIGIONS/PHILOSOPHIES,
THAT HE ALLOWED TO INFLUENCE HIM,
•AND BROUGHT THEIR DOCTRINES
WITH HIM INTO THE CHURCH.
•RECAST CHRISTIAN THOUGHT IN
NEO-PLATONIC TERMS ( CAUSING MAXIMUM
DAMAGE BY HIM TO THE CHURCH &
CHRISTIAN FAITH)
•ABANDONED HEBREW THOUGHT
IN PREFERENCE TO GREEK THOUGHT
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66. ROMAN CATHOLIC &
PROTESTANT REFORMATION CHURCH
CONSIDER
•AUGUSTINE AS THE GREATEST THEOLOGIAN
OF THE CHURCH.
•MARTIN LUTHER & CALVIN WERE GREATLY
INFLUENCED BY HIM.
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67. BUT SEPARATION FROM THE JEWISH
ROOTS CAUSED
HUGE DAMAGES TO THE CHURCH AND
THE CHRISTIAN FAITH
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68. AROUND THIS TIME :
•DEATH & RESURRECTION DAYS OF CHRIST &
‘LORD’S SUPPER’ (HOLY COMMUNION) WERE SEPARATED
FROM ‘PASSOVER FESTIVAL’ OF THE LORD.
•PAGAN EASTER FESTIVAL ENTERED.
•CHRISTMAS MOVED MONTHS AHEAD OF ‘FESTIVAL OF
TABERNACLE’ TO COINCIDE WITH PAGAN FESTIVAL WITH
PAGAN CUSTOMS.
•12 DAYS OF ‘YULETIDE’ – ORGY OF DRINKING, EATING &
IMMORALITY WITH VILLAGE ELECTED MAN – ‘ON THE 1ST
DAY OF CHRISTMAS MY TRUE LOVE…’ SONG IS ACTUALLY
YULETIDE ORGY SONG.
•‘WHIT SUNDAY’ IN UK & IRELAND SEPARATED FROM
‘PENTECOST FESTIVAL’ OF THE LORD. 68
69. HE CONCLUDED IN HIS WRITINGS & TEACHING THAT
ADAM'S SIN (IN THE GARDEN) IS PHYSICALLY
TRANSMITTED & GENETICALLY DERIVED FROM
PARENT TO CHILD THROUGH THE CONCUPISCENCE
(LUST) THAT ACCOMPANIES SEXUAL REPRODUCTION.
FOR THAT REASON THE INFECTION OF ADAM'S SIN IS
PASSED DOWN THROUGH "SEXUAL RELATIONS" TO
THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE.
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70. •FOR EXAMPLE, TO SAY THAT JESUS WAS BORN OF A
WOMAN WHO WAS INFECTED WITH ORIGINAL SIN
AND THUS SHAPED OUR SINLESS LORD IN HER VERY
INIQUITY WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO EXPLAIN (PSALM.
51:5 & HEBREWS. 4:15)!
•THE ONLY WAY TO AVOID THIS BLASPHEMES
PREDICAMENT IS TO EMBRACE THE ROMAN
CATHOLIC DOGMA TERMED 'IMMACULATE
CONCEPTION' WHICH WAS INVENTED TO REMEDY
THE ISSUE OF CHRIST BEING INFECTED WITH
ORIGINAL SIN.
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71. THE BIBLE GIVES ONLY 3 ACCOUNTS
BIRTH : JESUS CHRIST
CREATION : I. ADAM (GENESIS 1:27).
II. LUCIFER, CREATED IMMACULATE
WITHOUT DEFECTS (EZEKIEL 28:11-15).
BOTH THE ABOVE CREATIONS FELL FROM GRACE,
DUE TO THEIR SIN.
EVERY HUMAN BEING EXCEPT JESUS CHRIST, IS
DECLARED AS SINNER BY THE WORD OF GOD
(ROMANS 3:23).
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72. •SEX WITHIN MARRIAGE TOO IS ‘LUST’.
•CELIBACY IS BETTER THAN MATRIMONY –
HENCE, ROMAN CATHOLIC PRIESTS & NUNS
COMPULSORY CELIBACY.
•BUT JEWISH RABBI MUST BE MARRIED &
EXPERIENCE LOVE WITHIN MARRIAGE.
•FROM THEN ON, CHRISTIANS ARE CONFUSED
WITH THEIR BODY –
DON’T KNOW ABOUT THE USE OF BODY.
•CHURCH RARELY TALKS OF IT-EXCEPT
IN NEGATIVE TERMS.
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73. JESUS CHRIST – FULLY HUMAN & FULLY DIVINE.
BODY IS.
•A TEMPLE OF GOD.
•WE WILL BE RESURRECTED WITH A NEW BODY.
•BODY & SOUL ARE ONE COMPOSITE BEING.
•NEW EARTH WILL BE HEAVEN AS GOD MOVES OVER TO
NEW EARTH.
•BODY IS A CREATION OF GOD.
•BODY IS NOT BAD – ‘WE’ ARE BAD.
•SEX WITHIN MARRIAGE IS A GIFT OF GOD &HONOURABLE.
•BUT DON’T OVER-INDULGE TO CRAVINGS.
•AND DON’T BECOME A SLAVE OF PASSIONS.
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74. WRONG SEPARATION OF:
RELIGIOUS & SECULAR LIFE.
PRIESTS (&NUNS) & LAY PEOPLE.
SPIRITUAL & SECULAR LIFE.
(WHO DO YOU PRAY FOR, A PASTOR SURROUNDED BY
CHRISTIANS OR A WORKER IN OUTSIDE WORLD
SURROUNDED BY PAGANS?)
RELIGIOUS WHO LIVE BY FAITH & LAY CONGREGATION
WHO LIVE BY THEIR LABOUR?
(TILL 428 AD – THERE WAS NO DISTINCT CLERICAL DRESS.
IN-FACT A FORMER POPE, THEN CRITICIZED A FRENCH
BISHOP FOR WEARING A DISTINCT RELIGIOUS DRESS-
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75. •PHYSICAL ISRAEL REPLACED BY ‘SPIRITUAL ISRAEL’ -CHURCH.
•SO IN CHURCH FEW LEARN, TEACH OR PREACH FROM
OLD TESTAMENT WHICH THEY SAW AS PRIMARILY TO
DO WITH PHYSICAL ISRAEL.
•SO FEW KNOW WHAT ‘613 INSTRUCTIONS’ (TORAH) MEAN
& FOR WHAT PURPOSE WERE GIVEN.
•MOST QUICK TO TERM IT AS “LAW” IN NEGATIVE LEGAL
CONNOTATION AS IF IT IS BAD OR WRONG WITHOUT EVEN
HAVING READ IT SERIOUSLY.
•DISPENSATION TEACHINGS ENTER CHURCH & CONFUSE.
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76. •MANY ERRONEOUSLY ASSUME THAT THE
‘LAW OF LOVE’ IS FROM NEW TESTAMENT &
NOT FROM OLD TESTAMENT.
•MANY ERRONEOUSLY ASSUME THAT ‘NEW’ LAW OF
LOVE REPLACED THE ENTIRE OLD TESTAMENT.
•MANY FAIL TO UNDERSTAND THAT ‘THE LAW OF
LOVE’ WAS THE FOUNDATION PRINCIPLE BY
WHICH THE 613 INSTRUCTIONS WERE TO BE
UNDERSTOOD & PRACTICED BY ISRAEL.
•MANY WERE ERRONEOUSLY LED TO BELIEVE THAT
‘GRACE’ BEGAN ONLY IN NEW TESTAMENT ERA
& THAT ‘GRACE’ HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH
PHYSICAL ISRAEL EARLIER.
•CHURCH ERRONEOUSLY BELIEVES THE LIE THAT GOD IS
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77. •AUGUSTINE FELT THAT THE GOD OF THE OLD
TESTAMENT WAS CAPRICIOUS & VINDICTIVE, &
AT ODDS WITH THE GRACIOUS GOD OF THE NEW
TESTAMENT.. BISHOP AMBROSE HELPED HIM
OVERCOME THIS NEGATIVE THINKING OF
AUGUSTINE.
•SO HOW DID AMBROSE AND AUGUSTINE
OVERCOME THE APPARENT CONTRADICTION ?
•BY USING A METHOD OF INTERPRETATION CALLED
ALLEGORY – WHAT YOU SEE GOD DOING IN OLD
TESTAMENT HAS HIDDEN MEANING. GREEK THINKING INDUCED WRONG
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78. THE TEACHINGS OF THE OLD TESTAMENT,
ACCORDING TO AUGUSTINE, COULD ONLY BE
UNDERSTOOD BY TAKING THE OLD TESTAMENT AS
ALLEGORY.
AUGUSTINE SPIRITUALIZED THE OLD TESTAMENT,
TEACHING THAT THE HISTORIES OF THE OLD
TESTAMENT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH GOD, IN
REALITY, THAT THE STORIES ABOUT GOD IN THE OLD
TESTAMENT ONLY TAUGHT ABOUT GOD IN
PICTURES, LIKE PARABLES.
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79. ACCORDING TO AUGUSTINE, THE OLD TESTAMENT WAS
NOT A PERFECT REVELATION OF GOD AND HIS
CHARACTER, BUT CONTAINED BITS AND PIECES ABOUT
GOD THAT WE HAD TO FIGURE OUT WITH ALLEGORICAL
INTERPRETATION.
AUGUSTINE'S INFLUENCE WAS SO GREAT THAT, FOR A
THOUSAND YEARS, HIS METHOD OF INTERPRETING THE
BIBLE WAS THE OFFICIAL METHOD OF INTERPRETATION
USED BY THE CHURCH.
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80. •IN 70 AD AT THE END OF THE JEWISH REVOLT,
THE ROMAN EMPIRE FORBADE JEWS FROM
ENTERING JERUSALEM.
•AROUND 100 AD IT IS ESTIMATED THAT THERE WERE
ONE MILLION JEWISH BELIEVERS.
•IN 132 AD THE ROMANS TRIED TO STOP THE JEWS
CIRCUMCISING THEIR BOYS AND OTHER PRACTICES
OF JUDAISM.
•THE BELIEVING JEWS FOUGHT ALONGSIDE THEIR
ORTHODOX BROTHERS IN THE ISRAELI ARMY AGAINST
THE ROMAN ARMY, AS BOTH CIRCUMCISED THEIR
BOYS (THE BELIEVERS BECAUSE OF THE ABRAHAMIC
COVENANT, THE ORTHODOX JEWS BECAUSE OF THE
MOSAIC LAW). 80
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81. •THE COMMANDER OF THE JEWISH FORCES WAS
SHIMON BAR KOCKBA (KOCHBA).
•DURING THAT REBELLION THE CHIEF RABBI DECLARED
THAT BAR KOCKBA WAS THE MESSIAH.
•HENCE, THE ‘BELIEVING JEWS’ WITHDREW FROM THE
JEWISH ARMY, AS THEY HELD YESHUA (JESUS) TO BE
THE MESSIAH…
•THE ‘BELIEVING JEWS’ WERE THEN KILLED BY BOTH
ROMANS AND THE ORTHODOX JEWS.
•BY THE END OF THE REBELLION IN 135 AD THE ‘BELIEVING
JEWISH POPULATION’ HAD BEEN DECIMATED.
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82. •THE ROMANS NOW FORBADE THE JEWS TO LIVE IN ISRAEL
•THEY RENAMED THE COUNTRY ‘PALESTINE’.
•THE ‘ORTHODOX JEWS’ BLAMED THE ‘BELIEVING JEWS’ FOR
THE LOSS OF THE WAR.
•THE CHIEF RABBI WROTE A PRAYER TO BE SAID EVERY
MORNING IN THE SYNAGOGUE…IT SAID THAT ANYONE
BELIEVING IN JESUS AS THE MESSIAH WAS CURSED.
•WHEN THE ‘GENTILE BELIEVERS’ LEARNED OF THIS PRAYER
THEY REACTED AGAINST IT…AND
•THE FIRST RECORDED STATEMENT OF “REPLACEMENT
THEOLOGY” CAME IN 160 AD.
•IT BECAME THE OFFICIAL POSITION OF THE ‘CHURCH’
WHEN IT WAS ENDORSED BY ALL THE BISHOPS AT THE
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83. •PHYSICAL IS NOT GOOD – SPIRITUAL IS GOOD
(GREEK THOUGHT).
HENCE, PHYSICAL COVENANT PROMISES FOR
PHYSICAL ISRAEL ARE NO MORE VALID.
(BUT THE BIBLE SAYS THEY ARE IRREVOCABLE!).
•GOD IS NOW WITH ‘SPIRITUAL ISRAEL- CHURCH’.
•GOD’S COVENANT PROMISE OF
PHYSICAL LAND FOR ISRAEL IS NO MORE VALID.
•HENCE, MIDDLE EAST PROBLEM OF ‘LAND OF ISRAEL’
IS NOT A PROBLEM OF THE CHURCH.
•MIDDLE EAST PEACE ALONE IS THE CONCERN OF CHURCH.
•CHURCH HAD NOTHING MORE TO DO WITH ISRAEL –
HEBRAIC HERITAGE LOST WITH MUCH DAMAGE –
NO MORE DOCTRINAL PURITY POSSIBLE.
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84. CONCLUDED THAT SINCE RESURRECTED JESUS IS
BACK WITH GOD THE FATHER IN HEAVEN,
HE WILL / CANNOT NOT COME BACK TO
PHYSICAL EARTH WHICH IS EVIL.
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85. .
ROMAN CATHOLIC
CHURCH IS THE
‘ ’
GOVERNING THE
WORLD TILL IT
COMPLETES PERFECTING
THE WORLD FOR
JESUS CHRIST
TO RETURN
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86. •JESUS CHRIST WILL NOT RETURN TO EARTH.
•HE WILL REIGN SPIRITUALLY FROM HEAVEN.
‘CITY OF GOD’, THE CHURCH WILL BE HIS INSTRUMENT OF
REIGN ON EARTH (SPIRITUAL REALM DIVINE JESUS CHRIST
CANNOT BE HERE ON PHYSICAL EARTH!).
•HENCE, ‘AMILLENNIALISM’ THEOLOGY OF ROMAN
CATHOLIC CHURCH.
CHRIST’S MILLENIUM REIGN IS ALREADY HERE THROUGH
THE VICTORIOUS ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH.
(HOW COME SATAN IS NOT BOUND FOR THIS PERIOD,
THEN, AS REVELATION SAYS IN REV 20:1-3?)
•431 AD- AUGUSTIN PERSUADED EPHESUS COUNCIL TO
DECLARE THAT BELIEF IN MILLENIUM RULE OF CHRIST IN
PHYSICAL TERMS IS A HERESY. GREEK THINKING INDUCED WRONG DOCTRINES
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IN CHURCH-NIRMAL
NATHAN, TRICHY, INDIA
87. ROMAN CHURCH
&
OTHER
INTERPRETATIONS
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88. •GOD DECIDES AND PREDETERMINES WHO ON
EARTH IS TO BE SAVED.
•NO AMOUNT OF PRAYING OR PREACHING CAN
BRING ANY PERSON INTO SALVATION DECISION.
•HENCE, IT IS A WASTE TO PREACH TO EVERYONE.
•HENCE, IT IS WASTE TO EVANGELIZE.
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89. •WITH NO ROLE OF MAN’S RESPONSIBILITY
IN HIS BEING SAVED.
(SINCE PLATO’S ‘PERFECT’ GREEK GOD
•IS STATIC,
•MADE ETERNAL DECREES &
•DOES NOT CHANGE).
•HEBREW BIBLICAL DOCTRINE – OPPOSITE VIEW.
EX: POTTER & CLAY PARABLE IN THE BOOK
OF JEREMIAH – “ IF ISRAEL REPENTS & PRAYS,
THEN I WILL REPENT AND CHANGE MY MIND”.
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90. •IT IS BASED ON GREEK THINKING.
•IT IS DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSITE TO
JEWISH THINKING.
•BUT LUTHER & CALVIN ACCEPTED
AUGUSTINIAN VIEW.
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91. •GREEKS DECIDED THAT ONCE GOD DECIDES,
HE CANNOT BE INFLUENCED BY ANYTHING OR ANYONE
TO CHANGE HIS DECISION.
•HENCE, AUGUSTINE CONCLUDED THAT SALVATION IS
PERMANENT AND NONE CAN LOSE SALVATION.
•THE BIBLE TEACHES THAT GOD DOES CHANGE HIS MIND.
•HEBREW VIEW: GOD IS DYNAMIC & NOT STATIC.
•GOD CAN BE INFLUENCED BY MAN’S CHOICE.
•ONE CAN LOSE THE SALVATION
•ISRAELITES WERE SAVED BY GOD FROM EGYPT. BUT EXCEPT 2
REST OF ABOUT 2 LAKHS JEWS PERISHED IN THE DESERT
DUE TO THEIR UNFAITHFULNESS. (1 COR 10:1-11)
•WE CAN LOSE OUR SALVATION BY OUR CHOICE(1 COR 10:1-11)
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92. •AUGUSTINE WROTE JUSTIFYING THE
OF CHRISTIANS
WHO DISAGREED WITH HIM.
•JUSTIFIED THEORY-THIS
THEORY POSTULATES THAT WAR, WHILE VERY
TERRIBLE, IS NOT ALWAYS THE WORST OPTION. THERE
MAY BE RESPONSIBILITIES SO IMPORTANT, ATROCITIES
WHICH CAN BE PREVENTED OR OUTCOMES SO
UNDESIRABLE THEY JUSTIFY WAR EG: “THE CRUSADES”
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93. –
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94. •WHEREAS AUGUSTINE WAS INFLUENCED MORE BY
PLATO WHO TAUGHT THAT THE SPIRITUAL
REALM AS THE REAL WORLD,
•THOMAS ACQUINAS WAS INFLUENCED BY ARISTOTLE,
WHO TAUGHT
BASED ON
•THE DENOMINATIONS INFLUENCED BY HIM, DO NOT
RECOGNIZE THE OPERATION OF THE GIFTS OF
THE HOLY SPIRIT (TONGUES ETC) FOR THAT IS
NOT EXPLAINABLE BY REASON.
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95. •GOD RAISED UP THE ISRAELITES AS HIS CHOSEN PEOPLE
TO REVEAL HIM & HIS WAYS TO THE WORLD
(EXODUS 19:5-6).
•GOD GAVE A REVELATION OF HIMSELF &
HIS WAYS TO THEM & NOT TO THE GREEKS.
•GOD INSPIRED JEWISH AUTHORS WROTE THE
SCRIPTURES ( 2 TIMOTHY 3:16) .
•THEY DID NOT WRITE THEIR ‘REASONING’ OR ‘IDEAS’
AS GREEK PHILOSOPHERS DID.
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96. •JESUS WAS A JEW,
•BORN TO A JEWESS,
•BROUGHT UP BY JEWISH FOSTER FATHER,
•BROUGHT UP IN JEWISH ENVIRONMENT,
•CHOSE HIS APOSTLES FROM AMONG JEWS,
•TAUGHT IN JEWISH CULTURAL SET UP,
•TAUGHT IN HEBREW & ARAMAIC LANGUAGE
•USING HEBREW MINDSET, PROVERBS &
PARABLES.
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97. •HE TOLD THE SAMARITAN WOMAN,
•THE EARLY CHURCH WAS 100% JEWISH,
ENLARGED TO BRING IN THE GENTILES.
•EXCEPT DR. LUKE, EVERY ONE OF THE NEW TESTAMENT
WRITER WAS A JEW, WRITING IN PREVALENT GREEK
LANGUAGE BUT USING JEWISH MINDSET.
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98. GREEK THINKING INDUCED WRONG
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99. •TRUE LIVING HOLY GOD IS
IN DYNAMIC RELATIONSHIP WITH MAN
UNLIKE IN GREEK THOUGHT.
•BIBLE DECLARES THAT OUR ATTITUDE &
PRAYER INFLUENCES GOD.
•HE IS NOT DISTANT AS IN GREEK THOUGHT BUT
‘IMMANUEL = GOD WITH US’
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100. •FOR ISRAELITES – LORD GOD IS THEIR WISDOM &
LORD GOD IS THEIR SALVATION.
•FOR GREEKS - WISDOM IS THEIR PERSONAL ACHIEVEMENT
&
KNOWLEDGE (GNOSIS) IS THEIR SALVATION.
•ISRAELITE THINKING DESTROYS MUCH OF WRONG
THEOLOGY OF GREEK INFLUENCED CHURCH.
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101. •GREEKS BELIEVE IN
LOGIC,
REASON &
EVIDENCE FOR TRUTH.
•JEWISH ‘BELIEVERS’ EXHIBIT
FAITH (TRUST) IN GOD (JOHN 7:17) &
HIS REVELATION IN THE SCRIPTURES.
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102. HEBREW THINKING - BODY
•JESUS CHRIST IS GOD AND FROM HIS BIRTH & RESURRECTION
WILL ALWAYS HAVE A HUMAN BODY –
HE IS THE FIRST AMONG THE RESURRECTED.
•GOD MADE THE PHYSICAL WORLD & MY PHYSICAL BODY.
•THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH MY BODY –
PROBLEM IS WITH ME!
•CELIBACY IS NOT BETTER THAN MARITAL SEX (1 CORIN 7).
•SEX WAS GIVEN TO MANKIND BEFORE SIN ENTERED THE
WORLD.
•ALL BELIEVERS IN JESUS CHRIST WILL BE GIVEN NEW BODY
ON RESURRECTION.
•MY DRESS DOES NOT MAKE ME HOLY.
•MY CULTURE DOES NOT MAKE ME HOLY.
•GOD MAKES ME HOLY.
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103. HEBREW THINKING -WORK
•ALL VOCATION ARE SACRED EXCEPT THOSE WHICH
ARE ILLEGAL OR IMMORAL.
•‘AVODAH’ – SAME WORD FOR WORSHIP & WORK.
•TERMING MINISTRY AS “FULL TIME” IS INCORRECT.
•ALL BELIEVERS ARE IN MINISTRY –
•AT WORK-PLACE OR
•IN THE CHURCH.
•BELIEVERS IN WORK-PLACE NEED AS MUCH
PRAYER SUPPORT OF THE CHURCH AS THE
PASTORS AND MISSIONARIES NEED.
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104. HEBREW THINKING -WORK
•WRONG TO SAY THAT MINISTERS OF GOD
LIVE BY FAITH AS IF LAY PEOPLE IN THE
CONGREGATION DO NOT LIVE BY FAITH.
•DO NOT SEGREGATE MINISTRY AS SPIRITUAL AND
LAY WORK AS PROFANE.
•BOTH ARE SACRED.
•BOTH THE MINISTER AS WELL AS THE LAY
CONGREGATION MEMBER NEED FAITH FOR
GOD MEETING THEIR NEEDS OF LIFE.
•IT IS NOT WHAT JOB YOU DO THAT IS IMPORTANT,
BUT HOW YOU DO IT.
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105. GENESIS 2 IS A DETAILED LOOK BACK AT
DAY 6 MENTIONED IN GENESIS 1
(‘THE LAW OF RECURRENCE’)...
THEY ARE NOT TWO ACCOUNTS FROM DIFFERENT
SOURCES AS THE ‘GREEK REASON’ INFLUENCED
WESTERN SCHOLARS TEACH.
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106. JEWS VIEW
-
EACH REPETITION GIVING YOU MORE
INFORMATION ABOUT THE FINAL FULFILMENT
E.G. MATTHEW 24: 15
'THE ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION' HAD
ALREADY BEEN FULFILLED BUT JESUS SAID IT
WOULD HAPPEN AGAIN (AND IT DID IN 70 AD)....
WHEREAS GREEK INFLUENCED WESTERN MINDS ONLY SEE
ONLY ONE FULFILMENT.
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107. MESSIANIC JEWS VIEW
THE BOOK OF REVELATION AS ALL OF FOUR:
(I) HISTORICISM
(II) FUTURISM
(III)PRETERISM &
(IV) IDEALISM
BUT WESTERN GREEK THINKING JUST CHOOSES
ONE OF THESE APPROACHES
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108. EXAMPLE:
JESUS APPLIES ONLY HEBREW LOGIC IN
LUKE 20: 37-38
(ANGEL LIKE EXISTENCE WITHOUT NEED
FOR PROCREATION DUE TO ETERNAL LIFE)...
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111. PHYSICAL BLESSINGS TO ISRAEL
• HEALTH
• FERTILITY OF FIELDS
• MIRACLES
• THE PROMISE OF LAND STILL HOLD GOOD.
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115. THE DANGER PROPHECIED –
READ MATTHEW 24, LUKE 21 & MARK 13
•HERESY & APOSTASY IS PROPHESIED BY JESUS CHRIST.
•HOW WILL YOU SAVE YOURSELF?
–
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116. •
•SOAK YOURSELF IN THE ENTIRE BIBLE &
LEARN FROM JEWISH PERSPECTIVE.
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119. MAY BE YOUR PRINCIPLE TOO!
TO STUDY THE WORD OF GOD
TO PRACTICE THE WORD OF GOD &
TO TEACH THE WORD OF GOD.
BE BLESSED & BE A BLESSING!
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