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VideoLAN 
VideoLAN & VLC 
how to maintain a free project targeted by lobbyists 
Jean-Baptiste Kempf 
jeudi 30 octobre 2014
Ecole Centrale Paris
VideoLAN 
Volunteers 
VLC
The Cone
900 000 per day 
More than 1.5B 
over VLC life time 
1 every 6 Mac 
Top 15 Windows 
Most used French 
software
VLC
VLC 
Le « poil à gratter » 
DRMs 
➣ Playback of DVDs, Blu-Rays 
➣ DVB-CSA 
➣ Hadopi 
Patents 
➢ MPEG-LA 
➢ Dolby, DTS 
Annoying 
➢ Rarely invited to conferences 
➢ French pouvoirs publics (lol) 
30 oct. 2014 Jean-Baptiste Kempf 11
DRMs 
DRM 
➢ Broken by design 
➢ Control of the distribution 
➢ Pressure 
➢ Playback → open the DRM 
DVD 
➢ libdvdcss 
➢ EUCD / DADVSI 
➢ Arrêt du conseil d'État 
➢ ARMT 
30 oct. 2014 Jean-Baptiste Kempf 12
VideoLAN et HADOPI
Hadopi 
DRM regulator in France 
➢ ARMT 
➢ Has no idea what they speak about 
Different kind of saisines 
➢ Contentieux one specific DRM 
➢ Generic question about DRM law and application 
French law 
➢ You can circumvent DRM, in order to achieve interoperability, 
without limiting the authors rights 
30 oct. 2014 Jean-Baptiste Kempf 14
Hadopi Questions 
Request of a generic Hadopi saisine : 
● What are the conditions to share the keys ? 
● What are the conditions that can be imposed on us by 
copyright holders (HDCP) ? 
● Can we distribute : 
– Source code of DRM library? 
– Static build of DRM library in a player? 
– Shared object of DRM library ? 
– Keys ?
Hadopi Answer 
● 17 months to get an answer 
– Legal 3 months 
– Pressure with public question in Assemblée Nationale and press 
– Vague meetings and repeated lies about delays 
● The answers are : 
– For the keys, you should ask Sony, and create a contentieux 
– Keys are not part of the source code 
– … 
– No answer on any of the important questions asked 
● Back meetings with AACS-LA, Sony 
– Lies and document not shared
Codecs 
Codecs 
– Heavily patented 
● Including base math 
● Very expensive to licence 
● Numerous patents → Cartel of exchange 
– Very aggressive 
● Dolby, DTS 
● MPEG-LA 
– Not valid in France (EU)!
Dolby Lobby 
● Used everywhere 
– Dolby Digital 
● DVD, Blu-ray, TNT 
– Dolby-E 
● Dolby Digital (AC-3) 
– DVB and ATSC spec 
– ETSI 
– is MANDATED by the CSA 
● Heavily Lobbied 
– E-AC3 in France, thanks to Canal+ (reduced fees from Dolby) 
– All profesional products have Dolby-E
Dolby Scam 
The Dolby Scam 
● One licence only 
– IP : codec implementation, patents, certification, logo 
● No way to license only the patents 
– 20 years ! 
– Refusal to share patents list 
– No respect of DVB or ETSI obligations 
● Use of DMCA and LCEN 
– Because IP ! 
● Everyone is scared 
– Except the CSA :)
Thank You 
Jean-Baptiste Kempf 
jb@videolan.org

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OWF14 - Plenary Session : Jean-Baptiste KEMPF, Président VLC

  • 1. VideoLAN VideoLAN & VLC how to maintain a free project targeted by lobbyists Jean-Baptiste Kempf jeudi 30 octobre 2014
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  • 6. 900 000 per day More than 1.5B over VLC life time 1 every 6 Mac Top 15 Windows Most used French software
  • 7. VLC
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  • 11. VLC Le « poil à gratter » DRMs ➣ Playback of DVDs, Blu-Rays ➣ DVB-CSA ➣ Hadopi Patents ➢ MPEG-LA ➢ Dolby, DTS Annoying ➢ Rarely invited to conferences ➢ French pouvoirs publics (lol) 30 oct. 2014 Jean-Baptiste Kempf 11
  • 12. DRMs DRM ➢ Broken by design ➢ Control of the distribution ➢ Pressure ➢ Playback → open the DRM DVD ➢ libdvdcss ➢ EUCD / DADVSI ➢ Arrêt du conseil d'État ➢ ARMT 30 oct. 2014 Jean-Baptiste Kempf 12
  • 14. Hadopi DRM regulator in France ➢ ARMT ➢ Has no idea what they speak about Different kind of saisines ➢ Contentieux one specific DRM ➢ Generic question about DRM law and application French law ➢ You can circumvent DRM, in order to achieve interoperability, without limiting the authors rights 30 oct. 2014 Jean-Baptiste Kempf 14
  • 15. Hadopi Questions Request of a generic Hadopi saisine : ● What are the conditions to share the keys ? ● What are the conditions that can be imposed on us by copyright holders (HDCP) ? ● Can we distribute : – Source code of DRM library? – Static build of DRM library in a player? – Shared object of DRM library ? – Keys ?
  • 16. Hadopi Answer ● 17 months to get an answer – Legal 3 months – Pressure with public question in Assemblée Nationale and press – Vague meetings and repeated lies about delays ● The answers are : – For the keys, you should ask Sony, and create a contentieux – Keys are not part of the source code – … – No answer on any of the important questions asked ● Back meetings with AACS-LA, Sony – Lies and document not shared
  • 17. Codecs Codecs – Heavily patented ● Including base math ● Very expensive to licence ● Numerous patents → Cartel of exchange – Very aggressive ● Dolby, DTS ● MPEG-LA – Not valid in France (EU)!
  • 18. Dolby Lobby ● Used everywhere – Dolby Digital ● DVD, Blu-ray, TNT – Dolby-E ● Dolby Digital (AC-3) – DVB and ATSC spec – ETSI – is MANDATED by the CSA ● Heavily Lobbied – E-AC3 in France, thanks to Canal+ (reduced fees from Dolby) – All profesional products have Dolby-E
  • 19. Dolby Scam The Dolby Scam ● One licence only – IP : codec implementation, patents, certification, logo ● No way to license only the patents – 20 years ! – Refusal to share patents list – No respect of DVB or ETSI obligations ● Use of DMCA and LCEN – Because IP ! ● Everyone is scared – Except the CSA :)
  • 20. Thank You Jean-Baptiste Kempf jb@videolan.org