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STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013




  What is the right balance
between respecting evidence
and living in the real world?

         Professor Anne Glover CBE
           Chief Scientific Adviser
to the President of the European Commission
STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013




European leaders will discuss
 tomorrow whether to spend
 80 billion Euro for research
        and innovation
STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013




  Science and technology
are part of everybody’s life
STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013




                             We accept the
                            benefits – do we
                            accept the risks?
STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013




Risk perception and evidence
   are two different things
                                                            Percentage of world
                                                            energy production




                                  Estimated deaths
                                  per Terawatt hour




                               Source: www.susannahertrich.com
STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013




Risk perception influences
public opinion and, hence,
 behaviour of politicians
STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013




 Societal perception of GMOs
Society A: GMOs are safe unless proven unsafe
Society B: GMOs are unsafe unless proven safe
Society C: GMOs are unsafe even if proven safe
Society D: GMOs are unsafe especially if proven safe
Society E: GMOs are safe even if proven unsafe

                       (taken from A. Golikov)
STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013




“GMO-free” municipalities in Flanders, Belgium




                                                  Source: Guy van den Eede
STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013




       GMO approval
Member States voting on EFSA scientific opinion




                                          Source: EuropaBio, Approvals of GMOs
                                          in the European Union, Oct. 2011
STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013




Salient points of EU GMO policy
                  • A rigorous safety assessment by the
                    European Food Safety Authority (EFSA)
                    based on the best possible science
                  • Post-market monitoring
                  • Labelling of GMOs and derived food
                    and feed products at all stages (when
                    present above 0.9%)
                  • Traceability from the point of
                    production or import down to the table
                    and vice versa
                  • Co-existence between organic,
                    traditional and GM plant from the seed
                    throughout the production chain
STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013




                                   www.climatepedia.org




    Do we trust
scientific evidence?
STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013




      Public support for
    science is decreasing




   Source: Eurobarometer, Special Edition 340 “Science and Technology” (2010)
STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013




“Because of their knowledge, scientists have a power that makes them dangerous”




                                                                         Source:
                                                                         Eurobarometer,
                                                                         Special Edition 340
                                                                         “Science and
                                                                         Technology” (2010)
STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013




 Scientific evidence
 is sound and peer-
      reviewed.

 It evolves over time,
but it doesn’t change
from one government
      to the next.
STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013




  So what’s the problem then?
• The world has become much more
  complex (and, hence, confusing)
• The pace of technological change has
  increased



• People believe that "unwanted" new
  technologies can be somehow de-invented
• Lack of information about the benefits of new
  technologies vis-à-vis the risks
STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013




Why do we always discuss risk assessments -
  Why not discuss reward assessments?
STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013




  As a society we need to
take risks to make progress
STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013




If we don't take the risk, others will take it!




                                                   Source: European Commission
STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013

      Large Hadron Collider, Geneva




The risk: Spending billions of pounds
for a machine that smashes particles
STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013




           The reward:
an unplanned "collateral" invention
    that has changed our lives
STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013




                                                             © National Gepgraphic
We need to put risk in relation
 to reward to be able to take
      informed decisions
STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013




   Communication
     is the key
• Scientists need to show
  empathy for public concerns
• Scientists need to be honest
  about the facts they have
  and those they don't have
• Scientists need to
  communicate much more
  proactively – otherwise
  lobby groups will fill the void
• Scientists need to speak a
  language everybody
  understands
STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013




But you always need two to tango:
 We also need politicians who…

                                 • are open to listen to the
                                   scientific evidence
                                 • don’t cherry-pick just the
                                   science that suits their
                                   view of the world
                                 • are transparent about their
                                   motivation when – for
                                   whatever good reason –
                                   they choose to ignore the
                                   evidence
STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013




               All fine, but:




                                                              © Winfried Götzinger
Scientists love uncertainty,
  while politicians hate it
STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013




        What can science do about it?
                                        • Reduce uncertainty as far
                                          as possible
                                        • Communicate uncertainty
                                          by using illustrative
                                          examples
                                        • Offer options for action
                                          rather than claiming to
                                          have the ultimate solution
                           • Flag where there is strong
                             consensus in the scientific
                             community, without
Old style of communicating   ignoring minority opinions
STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013




   Scientific consensus is a powerful tool

Banning Chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs)


Banning Dichlorodiphenyl-
  trichloroethane (DDT)
                                                 Banning Asbestos
STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013




Example: Revision of the Biofuels Directive
     in the light of scientific evidence
STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013




The science-policy interface needs
  translators who are respected
    on both sides to advise on
 what is consensus and what not
STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013




                                             Wouldn't it be nice
                                             if each EU Member
                                              State had a Chief
                                              Scientific Adviser
                                              or its equivalent?


Government Chief Scientific Advisers
   in the EU / EU Member States
STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013




                                                                                 It costs a lot of
                                                                               efforts to generate
http://www.ediblegeography.com/glacial-terroir




                                                                               scientific evidence.

                                                                           We shouldn't waste it.
STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013




Thank you for your attention!




   E-mail: ec-csa@ec.europa.eu
     Twitter: EU_ScienceChief

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Prof Anne Glover: What is the right balance between respecting evidence and living in the real world?

  • 1. STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013 What is the right balance between respecting evidence and living in the real world? Professor Anne Glover CBE Chief Scientific Adviser to the President of the European Commission
  • 2. STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013 European leaders will discuss tomorrow whether to spend 80 billion Euro for research and innovation
  • 3. STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013 Science and technology are part of everybody’s life
  • 4. STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013 We accept the benefits – do we accept the risks?
  • 5. STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013 Risk perception and evidence are two different things Percentage of world energy production Estimated deaths per Terawatt hour Source: www.susannahertrich.com
  • 6. STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013 Risk perception influences public opinion and, hence, behaviour of politicians
  • 7. STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013 Societal perception of GMOs Society A: GMOs are safe unless proven unsafe Society B: GMOs are unsafe unless proven safe Society C: GMOs are unsafe even if proven safe Society D: GMOs are unsafe especially if proven safe Society E: GMOs are safe even if proven unsafe (taken from A. Golikov)
  • 8. STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013 “GMO-free” municipalities in Flanders, Belgium Source: Guy van den Eede
  • 9. STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013 GMO approval Member States voting on EFSA scientific opinion Source: EuropaBio, Approvals of GMOs in the European Union, Oct. 2011
  • 10. STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013 Salient points of EU GMO policy • A rigorous safety assessment by the European Food Safety Authority (EFSA) based on the best possible science • Post-market monitoring • Labelling of GMOs and derived food and feed products at all stages (when present above 0.9%) • Traceability from the point of production or import down to the table and vice versa • Co-existence between organic, traditional and GM plant from the seed throughout the production chain
  • 11. STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013 www.climatepedia.org Do we trust scientific evidence?
  • 12. STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013 Public support for science is decreasing Source: Eurobarometer, Special Edition 340 “Science and Technology” (2010)
  • 13. STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013 “Because of their knowledge, scientists have a power that makes them dangerous” Source: Eurobarometer, Special Edition 340 “Science and Technology” (2010)
  • 14. STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013 Scientific evidence is sound and peer- reviewed. It evolves over time, but it doesn’t change from one government to the next.
  • 15. STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013 So what’s the problem then? • The world has become much more complex (and, hence, confusing) • The pace of technological change has increased • People believe that "unwanted" new technologies can be somehow de-invented • Lack of information about the benefits of new technologies vis-à-vis the risks
  • 16. STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013 Why do we always discuss risk assessments - Why not discuss reward assessments?
  • 17. STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013 As a society we need to take risks to make progress
  • 18. STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013 If we don't take the risk, others will take it! Source: European Commission
  • 19. STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013 Large Hadron Collider, Geneva The risk: Spending billions of pounds for a machine that smashes particles
  • 20. STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013 The reward: an unplanned "collateral" invention that has changed our lives
  • 21. STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013 © National Gepgraphic We need to put risk in relation to reward to be able to take informed decisions
  • 22. STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013 Communication is the key • Scientists need to show empathy for public concerns • Scientists need to be honest about the facts they have and those they don't have • Scientists need to communicate much more proactively – otherwise lobby groups will fill the void • Scientists need to speak a language everybody understands
  • 23. STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013 But you always need two to tango: We also need politicians who… • are open to listen to the scientific evidence • don’t cherry-pick just the science that suits their view of the world • are transparent about their motivation when – for whatever good reason – they choose to ignore the evidence
  • 24. STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013 All fine, but: © Winfried Götzinger Scientists love uncertainty, while politicians hate it
  • 25. STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013 What can science do about it? • Reduce uncertainty as far as possible • Communicate uncertainty by using illustrative examples • Offer options for action rather than claiming to have the ultimate solution • Flag where there is strong consensus in the scientific community, without Old style of communicating ignoring minority opinions
  • 26. STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013 Scientific consensus is a powerful tool Banning Chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs) Banning Dichlorodiphenyl- trichloroethane (DDT) Banning Asbestos
  • 27. STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013 Example: Revision of the Biofuels Directive in the light of scientific evidence
  • 28. STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013 The science-policy interface needs translators who are respected on both sides to advise on what is consensus and what not
  • 29. STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013 Wouldn't it be nice if each EU Member State had a Chief Scientific Adviser or its equivalent? Government Chief Scientific Advisers in the EU / EU Member States
  • 30. STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013 It costs a lot of efforts to generate http://www.ediblegeography.com/glacial-terroir scientific evidence. We shouldn't waste it.
  • 31. STEPS Centre Annual Symposium, University of Sussex, 6 Feb 2013 Thank you for your attention! E-mail: ec-csa@ec.europa.eu Twitter: EU_ScienceChief