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2nd MASTER MARINERS CONGRESS
17-19 April 2013, Intercontinental Melbourne, The Rialto, Australia
www.informa.com.au/mastermariners
tina.karas@informa.com.au
“From a professional perspective
there still seems to be a number of
unanswered questions”
“A more holistic training
program… is necessary to attract
high calibre people”
At the inaugural CMMA congress in Fremantle, we asked industry to list the major challenges facing
them. One of the comments received mentioned that, “From an Australian perspective, the challenge
is having an industry in which to work”. What impact will the current revitalisation of Australia’s
shipping industry have for master mariners and professional associations such as the CMMA?
The changes made by the revitalisation package are certainly considered to be in the right direction
however we have yet to see any take up of the incentives offered. From a
professional perspective there still seems to be a number of unanswered
questions. If there is no satisfactory process in the development of future
seafarers where will the master and chief engineer come from in order to
fill these roles on the second shipping registry? Plus, how do we instil
confidence for investment in Australian shipping when there is still an
apparent fear of the industrial climate?
Another comment from this questionnaire highlighted that, “Seafaring as an occupation is becoming
less and less attractive”. With the Company of Master Mariners Australia celebrating its 75th
Anniversary this year, how attractive do you believe the industry is for new recruits?
There’s certainly interest, but you need to view the sustainability of the industry and its approach to
career development to consider its attractiveness. It is understood that there are some 600 young
Australians registered to pursue a career at sea, however Australia does not have the vessels to
provide these recruits with sea experience. Another factor is that the blue water sector is not as
attractive as the offshore sector due to the disparity in wages. I am not suggesting that the blue water
section needs to price match the offshore sector as this would be unsustainable, however it needs to
be noted that this is an impact. Additionally the current training system is focused around only
providing seafarers and does not provide for a whole of industry career
perspective. A more holistic training program which appeals, equips or
facilitates career paths into shore based marine sectors, provides
recognised degrees and does not have to be borne as a cost to the ship
owners is necessary to attract high calibre people without undue
burden on the industry.
Captain Allan Gray, Federal Master for the Company of Master Mariners Australia joined us to
discuss the career paths and opportunities available to today’s mariners.
Before coming ashore and eventually becoming the Harbour Master and General Manager,
Port Operations at Fremantle Ports, Capt Gray had a 20 year career at sea. His passion for advancing
the role and voice of mariners continues as his discuss his hopes and aspirations for mariners and the
industry as a whole.
Q&A Session: Managing change, capability and career development
2nd MASTER MARINERS CONGRESS
17-19 April 2013, Intercontinental Melbourne, The Rialto, Australia
www.informa.com.au/mastermariners
tina.karas@informa.com.au
“I wish that the next generation of
master mariners become more
than just mariners”
Looking at career paths for seafarers, how does someone get promoted to the position of master?
Are certain qualifications necessary and what training options are available for continued
professional development?
Seafarers undertake training and ongoing marine experience to progress through the interim
qualifications of watch keeper, chief mate and then master. Continued professional development has
not been targeted well in Australia but is certainly at the forefront of attention for the Nautical
Institute. That said the Australian Maritime College currently provides for post graduate qualifications
which assist mariners in progressing to shore based jobs.
There seems to be a growing acceptance of the claims that there’s both a shortage of skilled
seafarers and that seafarer competencies are declining. Given the growing trend for criminalisation
of masters and their officers, how do you view current crew competency levels? Or more
importantly, how can industry address these concerns?
There is certainly anecdotal evidence that general crew competencies appear to be declining. In many
ports in Australia we are observing what would be some very basic marine tasks not being done or not
being done effectively. This is quite often as a result of industry shortages as it is viewed acceptable to
‘express’ persons through training and the minimum standard without providing the opportunity for
them to consolidate this training with real experience. Quite often with smaller crews on board and
greater time demands, the crew do not have the time to mentor the less experienced seafarer.
How does the modern master mariner manage the change of the introduction of e-Nav and new
technology? What can the profession do to ensure that the end user, the mariner, has appropriate
input?
It is essential for e-Nav to consider the end user, the seafarer. Historically and far too often nowadays,
new technology is driven by vendor development capability rather than user, and in our industry, crew
capability. Additionally, for any change management to be successful there is the need for real training
both at a generic and type specific level. We seem to be continuing in our intent to allow freedom in
engineering design and whilst we are an industry older than aviation, we have not learnt or accepted
the learnings of the aviation industry with regards to the minimisation of human error through
engineering design and standardisation.
What attracted you to industry and what do you hope the next generation of master mariners will
contribute to the industry’s professionalism?
I have always had an interest in all things marine but in reality it was my father who suggested I go to
see. It was a good decision in the end. I wish that the next generation of master mariners become
more than just mariners. That they realise they are part of a larger logistics chain and that in adopting
a whole of industry career perspective, rather than a silo view, that they have a significant amount to
offer the professionalism and performance of the wider maritime sector.
The CMMA is holding its second biennial congress in Melbourne next
month. What do you hope the congress will achieve?
I hope that this congress again provides the platform for an open dialogue
about the future of the industry and the profession. Signifying our role in the international sphere, we
are privileged to have delegates of the International Federation of Shipmasters’ Associations (IFSMA)
in attendance this year, together with a record number of national and international experts, including
Australia’s Gary Prosser who is currently IALA’s Secretary-General. In addition, I hope that the
congress showcases to the marine industry that we as master mariners are not insular in our thinking.
2nd MASTER MARINERS CONGRESS
17-19 April 2013, Intercontinental Melbourne, The Rialto, Australia
www.informa.com.au/mastermariners
tina.karas@informa.com.au
As a profession and an association, we wish to engage with the wider industry and provide
stewardship for the industry with a reasoned and experienced voice. We celebrate our 75th
Anniversary in 2013 and I trust the great speakers and interesting sessions at this year’s congress will
inspire vibrant discussion across generations and the whole of industry!
Captain Allan Gray will deliver a presentation at ISFMA’s AGA on the 16 April before taking on
the role as chair for the opening keynote session of the Company of Master Mariners of
Australia’s congress on the 17 April 2013.
IFSMA’s AGA is open to delegates of the congress. To register your interest and enquire about
attending IFSMA’s AGA contact: hq@ifsma.org
For more details, including a download of the 2011 industry questionnaire, visit:
www.informa.com.au/mastermariners

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Interview with Capt Allan Gray

  • 1. 2nd MASTER MARINERS CONGRESS 17-19 April 2013, Intercontinental Melbourne, The Rialto, Australia www.informa.com.au/mastermariners tina.karas@informa.com.au “From a professional perspective there still seems to be a number of unanswered questions” “A more holistic training program… is necessary to attract high calibre people” At the inaugural CMMA congress in Fremantle, we asked industry to list the major challenges facing them. One of the comments received mentioned that, “From an Australian perspective, the challenge is having an industry in which to work”. What impact will the current revitalisation of Australia’s shipping industry have for master mariners and professional associations such as the CMMA? The changes made by the revitalisation package are certainly considered to be in the right direction however we have yet to see any take up of the incentives offered. From a professional perspective there still seems to be a number of unanswered questions. If there is no satisfactory process in the development of future seafarers where will the master and chief engineer come from in order to fill these roles on the second shipping registry? Plus, how do we instil confidence for investment in Australian shipping when there is still an apparent fear of the industrial climate? Another comment from this questionnaire highlighted that, “Seafaring as an occupation is becoming less and less attractive”. With the Company of Master Mariners Australia celebrating its 75th Anniversary this year, how attractive do you believe the industry is for new recruits? There’s certainly interest, but you need to view the sustainability of the industry and its approach to career development to consider its attractiveness. It is understood that there are some 600 young Australians registered to pursue a career at sea, however Australia does not have the vessels to provide these recruits with sea experience. Another factor is that the blue water sector is not as attractive as the offshore sector due to the disparity in wages. I am not suggesting that the blue water section needs to price match the offshore sector as this would be unsustainable, however it needs to be noted that this is an impact. Additionally the current training system is focused around only providing seafarers and does not provide for a whole of industry career perspective. A more holistic training program which appeals, equips or facilitates career paths into shore based marine sectors, provides recognised degrees and does not have to be borne as a cost to the ship owners is necessary to attract high calibre people without undue burden on the industry. Captain Allan Gray, Federal Master for the Company of Master Mariners Australia joined us to discuss the career paths and opportunities available to today’s mariners. Before coming ashore and eventually becoming the Harbour Master and General Manager, Port Operations at Fremantle Ports, Capt Gray had a 20 year career at sea. His passion for advancing the role and voice of mariners continues as his discuss his hopes and aspirations for mariners and the industry as a whole. Q&A Session: Managing change, capability and career development
  • 2. 2nd MASTER MARINERS CONGRESS 17-19 April 2013, Intercontinental Melbourne, The Rialto, Australia www.informa.com.au/mastermariners tina.karas@informa.com.au “I wish that the next generation of master mariners become more than just mariners” Looking at career paths for seafarers, how does someone get promoted to the position of master? Are certain qualifications necessary and what training options are available for continued professional development? Seafarers undertake training and ongoing marine experience to progress through the interim qualifications of watch keeper, chief mate and then master. Continued professional development has not been targeted well in Australia but is certainly at the forefront of attention for the Nautical Institute. That said the Australian Maritime College currently provides for post graduate qualifications which assist mariners in progressing to shore based jobs. There seems to be a growing acceptance of the claims that there’s both a shortage of skilled seafarers and that seafarer competencies are declining. Given the growing trend for criminalisation of masters and their officers, how do you view current crew competency levels? Or more importantly, how can industry address these concerns? There is certainly anecdotal evidence that general crew competencies appear to be declining. In many ports in Australia we are observing what would be some very basic marine tasks not being done or not being done effectively. This is quite often as a result of industry shortages as it is viewed acceptable to ‘express’ persons through training and the minimum standard without providing the opportunity for them to consolidate this training with real experience. Quite often with smaller crews on board and greater time demands, the crew do not have the time to mentor the less experienced seafarer. How does the modern master mariner manage the change of the introduction of e-Nav and new technology? What can the profession do to ensure that the end user, the mariner, has appropriate input? It is essential for e-Nav to consider the end user, the seafarer. Historically and far too often nowadays, new technology is driven by vendor development capability rather than user, and in our industry, crew capability. Additionally, for any change management to be successful there is the need for real training both at a generic and type specific level. We seem to be continuing in our intent to allow freedom in engineering design and whilst we are an industry older than aviation, we have not learnt or accepted the learnings of the aviation industry with regards to the minimisation of human error through engineering design and standardisation. What attracted you to industry and what do you hope the next generation of master mariners will contribute to the industry’s professionalism? I have always had an interest in all things marine but in reality it was my father who suggested I go to see. It was a good decision in the end. I wish that the next generation of master mariners become more than just mariners. That they realise they are part of a larger logistics chain and that in adopting a whole of industry career perspective, rather than a silo view, that they have a significant amount to offer the professionalism and performance of the wider maritime sector. The CMMA is holding its second biennial congress in Melbourne next month. What do you hope the congress will achieve? I hope that this congress again provides the platform for an open dialogue about the future of the industry and the profession. Signifying our role in the international sphere, we are privileged to have delegates of the International Federation of Shipmasters’ Associations (IFSMA) in attendance this year, together with a record number of national and international experts, including Australia’s Gary Prosser who is currently IALA’s Secretary-General. In addition, I hope that the congress showcases to the marine industry that we as master mariners are not insular in our thinking.
  • 3. 2nd MASTER MARINERS CONGRESS 17-19 April 2013, Intercontinental Melbourne, The Rialto, Australia www.informa.com.au/mastermariners tina.karas@informa.com.au As a profession and an association, we wish to engage with the wider industry and provide stewardship for the industry with a reasoned and experienced voice. We celebrate our 75th Anniversary in 2013 and I trust the great speakers and interesting sessions at this year’s congress will inspire vibrant discussion across generations and the whole of industry! Captain Allan Gray will deliver a presentation at ISFMA’s AGA on the 16 April before taking on the role as chair for the opening keynote session of the Company of Master Mariners of Australia’s congress on the 17 April 2013. IFSMA’s AGA is open to delegates of the congress. To register your interest and enquire about attending IFSMA’s AGA contact: hq@ifsma.org For more details, including a download of the 2011 industry questionnaire, visit: www.informa.com.au/mastermariners