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Stemming the Tide: Why Women Engineers Leave the Field (and Why Do They Stay) Romila Singh, Ph.D
Motivation for POWER(Project on Women Engineers’ Retention) What Do We Know: 1-in-4 women leave engineering compared to 1-in-10 men Women comprise more than 20% of engineering school graduates, but only 11% of practicing engineers are women Girls just as likely as  boys to choose math, science subjects in high school
Women Engineers: What We Do Not Know Not much known about women engineers’ workplace experiences – only anecdotal information No systematic answers to -- why  women leave Just as important -- when  do they leave No one really knows at what career and life stage women engineers are most likely to leave
So Why Should We Care? Nationwide shortage of engineers National security reasons At stake – United States’ leadership in technical innovation Engineering profession has the highest turnover compared to other skilled professions: law, medicine, and higher education. ROI on STEM careers is not optimally realized Loss of women engineers=loss to organizations, loss to society, loss to the U.S.’s competitive edge
Women = Dispensable Talent?  “The stock market would not allow the waste of capital in the way we tolerate the waste of female talent and ability.” - Lord Myners, in his keynote speech at the Report of the Gender & Productivity Summit, 11 Downing Street, October 2004
Why Women Engineers Leave? Before we look for reasons why women leave the engineering field, let’s consider  this: A huge group of women engineers (15% of our sample of over 3,700 women engineers)  never    even entered the engineering profession after earning their undergrad in engineering. WHY?
Top 5 Reasons for Not  Entering Engineering Not interested in engineering,  Didn’t like the engineering culture,  had always planned to go into another field,  did not find the career flexible enough,  Wanted to start their own business.  These reasons did not differ significantly across different age groups or years of graduation.
In their Own Voices : Why Women Engineers Never Entered The Field “I interviewed with a company where there were NO WOMEN working there, besides secretaries, NO MINORITIES and no one in the young adult age group.” – African American Chemical Engineering Graduate  “ At the time I graduated no one was hiring except for the computer consulting companies who also paid very well compared to engineering and valued our problem solving skills. By the time I worked … for 5 years, IHAD SURPASSED my father’s salary who had worked in engineering for over 40 years.” – Caucasian Aerospace Engineering Graduate
Women Engineers Who Never Entered: In their Own Voices “I chose to study engineering and to pursue a Master’s in Engineering even though I knew that I did not want to practice as a “traditional” engineer. My first-class education allowed me to pursue EXTRAORDINARY OPPORTUNITIES as a strategy consultant.”– Caucasian/Latina Chemical Engineering Graduate “ ENGINEERING SCHOOL WAS PURE HELL for me - my personality inspired much sexist behavior from my male classmates and my T.A.s... At some point, after many interviews, I decided that I wouldn’t want to spend the majority of my waking hours with the type of people interviewing me.”     – Caucasian Mechanical Engineering Graduate
Women Who Never Entered: What are They Doing?
Women Engineers Who Left: 2 Groups What about women who pursued their careers in engineering?  Of the women who started in engineering -- 1 in 5leftmore  than 5 years ago (out of 3,700 women) 8% left  less  than 5 years ago (8% of over 3,700) So Why Did They Leave?
Top 5 Reasons Why Women Engineers Left (Over 5 Years Ago) A quarter of the women reported that they left the field to spend more time with their family.   Other women reported that they lost interest in engineering or developed interest in another field,  Some said they did not like the engineering culture, or they did not like engineering tasks,  Others left because they were not offered any opportunities for advancement.
In their Own Voices: Women Engineers Who Left Over 5 Years Ago “ There isn’t a strong network of females in engineering. You either need to learn to be “one of the guys” or BLAZE  THE  TRAIL  YOURSELF, which is very difficult. I deviated from engineering... but work now in construction, where I am the only female executive officer.” – Caucasian Agricultural Engineering Graduate “ [There is no] opportunity for advancement in a male-dominated field- the culture of engineering is male-centricwith HIGH EXPECTATIONS for travel and little personal time.”– Caucasian Chemical Engineering Graduate
In their Own Voices: Women Engineers Who Left Over 5 Years Ago “ TO ADVANCE, seems as though you must be willing and able to work 50+ hours/week and often be on-call 24/7.”  – Caucasian Chemical Engineering Graduate “ I feel that most engineering jobs are VERY DISAPPOINTING, at least as compared to the high expectations I had going in to engineering school. School programs are advertised as “build cool stuff!”, and then you get a job and are put in a cubicle and go to boring meetings and are part of a team making          a bracket...” – Caucasian Mechanical Engineering Graduate
What Are they Doing Now?
Top 5 Reasons Women Engineers Left (Less than 5 Years Ago)  A third  of the women left to stay home  with the children (because their company wasn’t flexible enough with accommodating work-life concerns) Two-thirds  left to pursue better opportunities           in other fields and organizations
In their Own Voices: Women Engineers Who Left Less than 5 Years Ago “ Women leave engineering due to a lack of job satisfaction, lack of reliable female role models, inflexible work schedules, workplace discrimination, WHITE MIDWESTERN MEN syndrome, and glass ceiling issues.” – Latina Civil Engineering Graduate “ The pressure is intense, and with no viable part-time alternatives, a woman [engineer] is FORCED TO CHOOSE between work and family.” – Caucasian Civil Engineering Graduate
In their Own Voices: Women Engineers Who Left Less than 5 Years Ago “ Worked in a department for 4 years - in that time, 3 people out of 50 got promotions - all men. Then only the women and elders got laid off. Senior VP couldn’t even handle saying hello to females in the hallway. His AWKWARD OLD SCHOOL TENDENCIES made him unable to consider females as equals. This was at a company with 90% female employees throughout the company; just a lack of females in the engineering group.”– Caucasian Industrial Engineering Graduate
In their Own Voices: Women Engineers Who Left Less than 5 Years Ago “ Most of management is a male-dominated culture (male conversation topics, long hours, demanding lifestyle, career-focused expectations). … Women usually choose to leave WITHOUT FIGHTING THE UPHILL BATTLE  to make improvements.  It is a self-sustaining cycle!” – Asian American Operations Research and Engineering Graduate
In their Own Voices: Women Engineers Who Left Less than 5 Years Ago “…what ultimately led me to B-school and a non-engineering job was the LACK OF A VIABLE CAREER PATH (i.e. advancement) within the engineering organizations where I worked. In addition to that, most engineering organizations have promotion/leadership funnels that are very, very narrow.”– African American Mechanical Engineering Graduate
Women Engineers Who Stay in Engineering Profile of women currently working in engineering Workplace experiences of women currently working in engineering (i.e., why do they stay?) Are they a flight risk? i.e., -- How strong (or tenuous) is their bond with the field of engineering
Profile of Women Currently Working In Engineering Worked 43.5 hours a week, tenure at organization- 8 years, and reported earning salaries ranging from $76,000 to $125,000.  About half of them were “individual contributors,” one-third were in project management positions, 15% were in executive roles. For those in management positions, a majority of engineers supervised between 1 to 5 individuals.  Most worked in groups that were predominantly male with a smaller number (18%) reporting working in gender balanced groups.
Why Do Women Stay in Engineering They are satisfied with their jobs and careers They have supportive bosses and co-workers Their organizations “get it”-  how do they show it? They recognize women’s contributions and care  about their well-being They invest in their training & professional development They provide clear, transparent paths for advancement They have supportive work-life policies and a work culture that supports work-life balance for all
“…I personally think engineering is a SATISFYING and CHALLENGING profession. I believe that my male co-workers treat women with respect and support them equal to their male co-workers.” – Caucasian Industrial Engineering Graduate  “I was fortunate to work with senior male engineering officers who gave me fantastic opportunities and provided outstanding SUPPORT.”– Caucasian Civil Engineering Graduate What Current Women Engineers Said…
Are Current Women Engineers a Flight Risk? Yes, they are.  And here’s why: Women who thought about leaving their organizations experienced : excessive workload without enough resources, conflicting work demands, and unclear expectations about work goals and standards a career plateau with few advancement opportunities low satisfaction with their jobs and careers a variety of climate related barriers
“There are NOT ENOUGH opportunities for promotion. It’s easier to get promoted and accepted outside of engineering fields.”– Asian American Electrical Engineering Graduate “ In leaving the technically focused roles, I believe it’s because advancement and money are not there. You can ONLY GO SO FAR before you have to shift gears to more business type roles.” – Caucasian Mechanical Engineering Graduate  What Current Women Engineers Said..
Workplace Climate that Hinders Persistence:Undermining & Incivility at Work Undermining behaviors targeted at women by their managers and co-workers Being belittled, insulted, talked about behind the back Being pulled back when trying to succeed at work Working in companies where women are treated in a condescending, patronizing manner by senior managers and co-workers
Workplace Climate that Hinders Persistence:No Support for Managing Multiple Life Roles Companies that did not offer flexible work-life policies  Companies with poor work-life cultures stressed: Face-time;  Taking work home on weekends and evenings; Working more than 50+ hours/week to get ahead; Regularly putting work before family  Companies need both - supportive climate and work-life policies - to attract and retain employees
What Can be Done? How to Retain Women Engineers (and other valued employees) Step 1: Recognize the problem  Recognize that -- this is not a woman’s issue it is not about women wanting to spend time with   their children the reasons why women stay are very similar to why they leave-- Advancement opportunities Climate issues
How to Retain Women Engineers (and other valued employees) Step 2: Change starts from the top Create a culture that -- has zero-tolerance for incivility and undermining    recognizes employees’ contributions and cares about their well-being respects employees’ work-life obligations and responsibilities
How to Retain Women Engineers (and other valued employees) Step 3: Implementsystem-wide changes  Create systems and policies that -- Invest in skills-based training  and overall professional development Provide transparent paths with clear, fair criteria for mobility and advancement Provide opportunities for formal and informal mentoring; other networking opportunities Offer a variety of options to manage multiple life responsibilities, without any career penalties
How to Retain Women Engineers (and other valued employees) Step 4: Implement role-level changes Communicate clear work goals and relevance of tasks to the corporate objectives Clarify what needs to be done, how, and when it needs to be done Eliminate, when possible, conflicting demands, expectations, and role disruptions  Infuse new resources or reallocate existing ones to streamline work procedures
Women Engineer Leaders: Not Business As Usual {(Re)Engineer, (Re)Align, (Re)Design, (Re)Energize Your Career} What can women engineer leaders do? Recognize that this is a systemic and deep-rooted problem and not a woman’s issue.  Develop, develop, develop (technical and career management skills) Network, network, network (within and outside of org.) Proactively seek role clarification, redefinition Practice zero-tolerance for uncivil and undermining behavior – incivility and undermining is not business as usual
Concluding Thoughts.. Current engineers’ desire to leave engineering stems from role-related pressures, hostile climate, job dissatisfaction, inadequate training and development opportunities, and lack of advancement opportunities. No difference in self-confidence possessed by women engineers, regardless of whether they stayed or left. Women engineers who contemplate leaving their organizations also think about leaving the profession: attrition from organization=attrition from profession
Finally… All evidence points to one fact: women’s departure from engineering is not a woman’s issue after all. Women want the same things as men do:  respect and advancement opportunities. When they don’t get it, they leave, or bide their time till they can leave.  To learn more about the study, please visit: http://www.studyofwork.com
Questions? Comments? Suggestions?
Please contact us: Dr. Nadya Fouad (nadya@uwm.edu) Dr. Romila Singh (romila@uwm.edu) Thank you! After thoughts?

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Women in Engineering

  • 1. Stemming the Tide: Why Women Engineers Leave the Field (and Why Do They Stay) Romila Singh, Ph.D
  • 2. Motivation for POWER(Project on Women Engineers’ Retention) What Do We Know: 1-in-4 women leave engineering compared to 1-in-10 men Women comprise more than 20% of engineering school graduates, but only 11% of practicing engineers are women Girls just as likely as boys to choose math, science subjects in high school
  • 3. Women Engineers: What We Do Not Know Not much known about women engineers’ workplace experiences – only anecdotal information No systematic answers to -- why women leave Just as important -- when do they leave No one really knows at what career and life stage women engineers are most likely to leave
  • 4. So Why Should We Care? Nationwide shortage of engineers National security reasons At stake – United States’ leadership in technical innovation Engineering profession has the highest turnover compared to other skilled professions: law, medicine, and higher education. ROI on STEM careers is not optimally realized Loss of women engineers=loss to organizations, loss to society, loss to the U.S.’s competitive edge
  • 5. Women = Dispensable Talent? “The stock market would not allow the waste of capital in the way we tolerate the waste of female talent and ability.” - Lord Myners, in his keynote speech at the Report of the Gender & Productivity Summit, 11 Downing Street, October 2004
  • 6. Why Women Engineers Leave? Before we look for reasons why women leave the engineering field, let’s consider this: A huge group of women engineers (15% of our sample of over 3,700 women engineers) never even entered the engineering profession after earning their undergrad in engineering. WHY?
  • 7. Top 5 Reasons for Not Entering Engineering Not interested in engineering, Didn’t like the engineering culture, had always planned to go into another field, did not find the career flexible enough, Wanted to start their own business. These reasons did not differ significantly across different age groups or years of graduation.
  • 8. In their Own Voices : Why Women Engineers Never Entered The Field “I interviewed with a company where there were NO WOMEN working there, besides secretaries, NO MINORITIES and no one in the young adult age group.” – African American Chemical Engineering Graduate “ At the time I graduated no one was hiring except for the computer consulting companies who also paid very well compared to engineering and valued our problem solving skills. By the time I worked … for 5 years, IHAD SURPASSED my father’s salary who had worked in engineering for over 40 years.” – Caucasian Aerospace Engineering Graduate
  • 9. Women Engineers Who Never Entered: In their Own Voices “I chose to study engineering and to pursue a Master’s in Engineering even though I knew that I did not want to practice as a “traditional” engineer. My first-class education allowed me to pursue EXTRAORDINARY OPPORTUNITIES as a strategy consultant.”– Caucasian/Latina Chemical Engineering Graduate “ ENGINEERING SCHOOL WAS PURE HELL for me - my personality inspired much sexist behavior from my male classmates and my T.A.s... At some point, after many interviews, I decided that I wouldn’t want to spend the majority of my waking hours with the type of people interviewing me.” – Caucasian Mechanical Engineering Graduate
  • 10. Women Who Never Entered: What are They Doing?
  • 11. Women Engineers Who Left: 2 Groups What about women who pursued their careers in engineering? Of the women who started in engineering -- 1 in 5leftmore than 5 years ago (out of 3,700 women) 8% left less than 5 years ago (8% of over 3,700) So Why Did They Leave?
  • 12. Top 5 Reasons Why Women Engineers Left (Over 5 Years Ago) A quarter of the women reported that they left the field to spend more time with their family. Other women reported that they lost interest in engineering or developed interest in another field, Some said they did not like the engineering culture, or they did not like engineering tasks, Others left because they were not offered any opportunities for advancement.
  • 13. In their Own Voices: Women Engineers Who Left Over 5 Years Ago “ There isn’t a strong network of females in engineering. You either need to learn to be “one of the guys” or BLAZE THE TRAIL YOURSELF, which is very difficult. I deviated from engineering... but work now in construction, where I am the only female executive officer.” – Caucasian Agricultural Engineering Graduate “ [There is no] opportunity for advancement in a male-dominated field- the culture of engineering is male-centricwith HIGH EXPECTATIONS for travel and little personal time.”– Caucasian Chemical Engineering Graduate
  • 14. In their Own Voices: Women Engineers Who Left Over 5 Years Ago “ TO ADVANCE, seems as though you must be willing and able to work 50+ hours/week and often be on-call 24/7.” – Caucasian Chemical Engineering Graduate “ I feel that most engineering jobs are VERY DISAPPOINTING, at least as compared to the high expectations I had going in to engineering school. School programs are advertised as “build cool stuff!”, and then you get a job and are put in a cubicle and go to boring meetings and are part of a team making a bracket...” – Caucasian Mechanical Engineering Graduate
  • 15. What Are they Doing Now?
  • 16. Top 5 Reasons Women Engineers Left (Less than 5 Years Ago) A third of the women left to stay home with the children (because their company wasn’t flexible enough with accommodating work-life concerns) Two-thirds left to pursue better opportunities in other fields and organizations
  • 17. In their Own Voices: Women Engineers Who Left Less than 5 Years Ago “ Women leave engineering due to a lack of job satisfaction, lack of reliable female role models, inflexible work schedules, workplace discrimination, WHITE MIDWESTERN MEN syndrome, and glass ceiling issues.” – Latina Civil Engineering Graduate “ The pressure is intense, and with no viable part-time alternatives, a woman [engineer] is FORCED TO CHOOSE between work and family.” – Caucasian Civil Engineering Graduate
  • 18. In their Own Voices: Women Engineers Who Left Less than 5 Years Ago “ Worked in a department for 4 years - in that time, 3 people out of 50 got promotions - all men. Then only the women and elders got laid off. Senior VP couldn’t even handle saying hello to females in the hallway. His AWKWARD OLD SCHOOL TENDENCIES made him unable to consider females as equals. This was at a company with 90% female employees throughout the company; just a lack of females in the engineering group.”– Caucasian Industrial Engineering Graduate
  • 19. In their Own Voices: Women Engineers Who Left Less than 5 Years Ago “ Most of management is a male-dominated culture (male conversation topics, long hours, demanding lifestyle, career-focused expectations). … Women usually choose to leave WITHOUT FIGHTING THE UPHILL BATTLE to make improvements. It is a self-sustaining cycle!” – Asian American Operations Research and Engineering Graduate
  • 20. In their Own Voices: Women Engineers Who Left Less than 5 Years Ago “…what ultimately led me to B-school and a non-engineering job was the LACK OF A VIABLE CAREER PATH (i.e. advancement) within the engineering organizations where I worked. In addition to that, most engineering organizations have promotion/leadership funnels that are very, very narrow.”– African American Mechanical Engineering Graduate
  • 21. Women Engineers Who Stay in Engineering Profile of women currently working in engineering Workplace experiences of women currently working in engineering (i.e., why do they stay?) Are they a flight risk? i.e., -- How strong (or tenuous) is their bond with the field of engineering
  • 22. Profile of Women Currently Working In Engineering Worked 43.5 hours a week, tenure at organization- 8 years, and reported earning salaries ranging from $76,000 to $125,000. About half of them were “individual contributors,” one-third were in project management positions, 15% were in executive roles. For those in management positions, a majority of engineers supervised between 1 to 5 individuals. Most worked in groups that were predominantly male with a smaller number (18%) reporting working in gender balanced groups.
  • 23. Why Do Women Stay in Engineering They are satisfied with their jobs and careers They have supportive bosses and co-workers Their organizations “get it”- how do they show it? They recognize women’s contributions and care about their well-being They invest in their training & professional development They provide clear, transparent paths for advancement They have supportive work-life policies and a work culture that supports work-life balance for all
  • 24. “…I personally think engineering is a SATISFYING and CHALLENGING profession. I believe that my male co-workers treat women with respect and support them equal to their male co-workers.” – Caucasian Industrial Engineering Graduate “I was fortunate to work with senior male engineering officers who gave me fantastic opportunities and provided outstanding SUPPORT.”– Caucasian Civil Engineering Graduate What Current Women Engineers Said…
  • 25. Are Current Women Engineers a Flight Risk? Yes, they are. And here’s why: Women who thought about leaving their organizations experienced : excessive workload without enough resources, conflicting work demands, and unclear expectations about work goals and standards a career plateau with few advancement opportunities low satisfaction with their jobs and careers a variety of climate related barriers
  • 26. “There are NOT ENOUGH opportunities for promotion. It’s easier to get promoted and accepted outside of engineering fields.”– Asian American Electrical Engineering Graduate “ In leaving the technically focused roles, I believe it’s because advancement and money are not there. You can ONLY GO SO FAR before you have to shift gears to more business type roles.” – Caucasian Mechanical Engineering Graduate What Current Women Engineers Said..
  • 27. Workplace Climate that Hinders Persistence:Undermining & Incivility at Work Undermining behaviors targeted at women by their managers and co-workers Being belittled, insulted, talked about behind the back Being pulled back when trying to succeed at work Working in companies where women are treated in a condescending, patronizing manner by senior managers and co-workers
  • 28. Workplace Climate that Hinders Persistence:No Support for Managing Multiple Life Roles Companies that did not offer flexible work-life policies Companies with poor work-life cultures stressed: Face-time; Taking work home on weekends and evenings; Working more than 50+ hours/week to get ahead; Regularly putting work before family Companies need both - supportive climate and work-life policies - to attract and retain employees
  • 29. What Can be Done? How to Retain Women Engineers (and other valued employees) Step 1: Recognize the problem Recognize that -- this is not a woman’s issue it is not about women wanting to spend time with their children the reasons why women stay are very similar to why they leave-- Advancement opportunities Climate issues
  • 30. How to Retain Women Engineers (and other valued employees) Step 2: Change starts from the top Create a culture that -- has zero-tolerance for incivility and undermining recognizes employees’ contributions and cares about their well-being respects employees’ work-life obligations and responsibilities
  • 31. How to Retain Women Engineers (and other valued employees) Step 3: Implementsystem-wide changes Create systems and policies that -- Invest in skills-based training and overall professional development Provide transparent paths with clear, fair criteria for mobility and advancement Provide opportunities for formal and informal mentoring; other networking opportunities Offer a variety of options to manage multiple life responsibilities, without any career penalties
  • 32. How to Retain Women Engineers (and other valued employees) Step 4: Implement role-level changes Communicate clear work goals and relevance of tasks to the corporate objectives Clarify what needs to be done, how, and when it needs to be done Eliminate, when possible, conflicting demands, expectations, and role disruptions Infuse new resources or reallocate existing ones to streamline work procedures
  • 33. Women Engineer Leaders: Not Business As Usual {(Re)Engineer, (Re)Align, (Re)Design, (Re)Energize Your Career} What can women engineer leaders do? Recognize that this is a systemic and deep-rooted problem and not a woman’s issue. Develop, develop, develop (technical and career management skills) Network, network, network (within and outside of org.) Proactively seek role clarification, redefinition Practice zero-tolerance for uncivil and undermining behavior – incivility and undermining is not business as usual
  • 34. Concluding Thoughts.. Current engineers’ desire to leave engineering stems from role-related pressures, hostile climate, job dissatisfaction, inadequate training and development opportunities, and lack of advancement opportunities. No difference in self-confidence possessed by women engineers, regardless of whether they stayed or left. Women engineers who contemplate leaving their organizations also think about leaving the profession: attrition from organization=attrition from profession
  • 35. Finally… All evidence points to one fact: women’s departure from engineering is not a woman’s issue after all. Women want the same things as men do: respect and advancement opportunities. When they don’t get it, they leave, or bide their time till they can leave. To learn more about the study, please visit: http://www.studyofwork.com
  • 37. Please contact us: Dr. Nadya Fouad (nadya@uwm.edu) Dr. Romila Singh (romila@uwm.edu) Thank you! After thoughts?