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The Role of Non-geodetic Professional Expertise of a
   University Educated Surveyor in an Emerging
  Ambiguous and Unsafe Future of the Profession

        Dr. Basil Psarianos, Assoc. Professor
           Nat’l Tech. Univ. of Athens, Greece
         European Group of Surveyors, President
                  psari@survey.ntua.gr
Meaning of Professional Titles
     Architects, Lawyers, Civil Engineers, Doctors,
     Surveyors… traditional names with abstract
     meaning anymore
     Professional Titles          Professional
     Activities
     Professions =∑ƒ(specific qualifications)
     Expertise: Job Description⇔
                                     n
                Ω= ƒi(qualifications|m)
FIG-Working Week:
Seoul, Korea, 6-11.5.2001   B.Psarianos: Non-Geodetic Surveyors   2
The Surveying Problem
     Impact of New
     Technologies
     Activities of the
     Surveying
     Profession

FIG-Working Week:
Seoul, Korea, 6-11.5.2001   B.Psarianos: Non-Geodetic Surveyors   3
New Technologies…
     Measurements and Data Modeling is relatively
     easy
     Market Profile: Qualifications of >BAC+3 not
     quite necessary, e.g. in public sector of
     Germany:
          Surveying Technicians increased by 11.5% between
          1984 and 1995
          Surveying Engineers reduced by 10.6% in same
          period
FIG-Working Week:
Seoul, Korea, 6-11.5.2001   B.Psarianos: Non-Geodetic Surveyors   4
Surveyor…
     Profession of … variations, diversifications, split,
     undefined sectors, different names
     Local and biased definitions
     FIG definition: globally incomplete and non all-inclusive;
     needs redefinition
     Full understanding of Surveyors Profile is of paramount
     importance for re-establishing an attractive profession
     globally; a Profile of Integrated Competence in Land,
     Property and Construction (Magel,1999)

FIG-Working Week:
Seoul, Korea, 6-11.5.2001   B.Psarianos: Non-Geodetic Surveyors   5
Non-geodetic Surveyor:
Accomplishments
     Successful and Respected Professional where
     found
     High Level Qualifications
     Accepted by Free-Market
     Untouched by current negative market trends of
     the conventional surveying activities


FIG-Working Week:
Seoul, Korea, 6-11.5.2001   B.Psarianos: Non-Geodetic Surveyors   6
Non-Geodetic Surveyor: Who is Who ?
     Supplement to conventional
     Surveying Qualifications or
     Individual educational
     background
     Accredited and licensed
     usually by individual body
     Some are represented in
     FIG, e.g. urban planner,
     valuator, land manager etc.
     Frequently a Title is
     associated with specific
     professional activities
FIG-Working Week:
Seoul, Korea, 6-11.5.2001   B.Psarianos: Non-Geodetic Surveyors   7
Archaeological Surveyor
     Making plans, maps of                          Degree in Archaeology
     archaeological sites                           with Land Surveying
     Use of Special Methods                         Supplement
     for locating buried                            Vice Versa
     Objects (Magnetic,
     Radioactive Methods                            E.g. Greece, Italy, U.K.
     etc)
      Accurate plotting of
     Artifacts and
     Archaeological Finds
FIG-Working Week:
Seoul, Korea, 6-11.5.2001   B.Psarianos: Non-Geodetic Surveyors                8
Building Surveyor
     Plans & Specifications of                      Degree in Building
     Building Works                                 Surveying or Relevant
     Alterations & Extensions of                    Studies
     Buildings
                                                    e.g. Greece (partially),
     Administration, Coordination,
     Control of Building Projects                   Italy, Ireland, Spain, U.K.
     Application of Landlord,
     Tenant, Administrative,
     Building and Contract Law


FIG-Working Week:
Seoul, Korea, 6-11.5.2001   B.Psarianos: Non-Geodetic Surveyors               9
Building Services Engineering
Surveyor (~Facility Manager)
     Contractual                                    Degree in Building
     Documentation                                  Services Engineering or
     Measurement &                                  Relevant Studies
     Evaluation of Building                         e.g. Germany (facility
     Services
                                                    manager-FM), Italy,
     Equipment &                                    Ireland, U.K., U.S.A.
     Installations
                                                    (FM)
     Accounting
     Legitimate Claims

FIG-Working Week:
Seoul, Korea, 6-11.5.2001   B.Psarianos: Non-Geodetic Surveyors               10
Civil Engineering Surveyor
     Surveying, Setting-out,                        Degree in Civil
     Supervision of Civil                           Engineering or Relevant
     Engineering Works                              Studies
     Stability of Structures                        e.g. Greece, Ireland,
     Testing of Materials                           U.K.
     Quality Control
     Remedying Structural
     Defects
     Contract Law
FIG-Working Week:
Seoul, Korea, 6-11.5.2001   B.Psarianos: Non-Geodetic Surveyors           11
Construction Surveyor
     Construction                                   Degree in Construction
     Management Process                             Surveying or Relevant
     Tendering & Post-                              Studies
     Tendering                                      e.g. Greece, Italy, U.K.
     Estimation
     Technical Law
     Financial Control of
     Projects

FIG-Working Week:
Seoul, Korea, 6-11.5.2001   B.Psarianos: Non-Geodetic Surveyors                12
Environmental Engineer
     Resource Management                            Degree in Environmental
     Sanitary Engineering                           Engineering or Relevant
     Rejuvenation of                                Studies
     Contaminated Soil and                          e.g. Greece, Switzerland
     Water
     Risk Analysis
     Risk Engineering


FIG-Working Week:
Seoul, Korea, 6-11.5.2001   B.Psarianos: Non-Geodetic Surveyors            13
Mining Surveyor
     Plan preparation                               Degrees in Geology or
     Mining Surveying                               Mining Engineering or
     Geological and Mineralogical                   Relevant Studies
     Features Recording
                                                    e.g. Germany, U.K.
     Ventilation
     Safety Surveys
     Mineral Valuation and Rating
     Soil Stability


FIG-Working Week:
Seoul, Korea, 6-11.5.2001   B.Psarianos: Non-Geodetic Surveyors             14
Municipal Surveyor
     Building Control                               Degrees in Civil
     Public Safety                                  Engineering Surveying,
     Operation of Grant                             Land Surveying,
     Schemes                                        Valuation, Town
     Improvement &                                  Planning etc.
     Redevelopment of Areas                         e.g. U.K.
     Landscaping
     Labor Organization
     Town Planning
FIG-Working Week:
Seoul, Korea, 6-11.5.2001   B.Psarianos: Non-Geodetic Surveyors              15
Town Planning Surveyor
     Land Use Management                            Degree in Town and
     Environmental                                  Country Planning or
     Assessment                                     Relevant Studies
     Development Briefs                             e.g. Denmark, Germany
     Conservation Area                              (Dipl.-Ing.), Greece, U.K.
     Policies
     Transportation Strategy
     Countryside Schemes
FIG-Working Week:
Seoul, Korea, 6-11.5.2001   B.Psarianos: Non-Geodetic Surveyors              16
Quantity Surveyor
     Cost Estimates                                 Degree in Quantity
     Cost plans                                     Surveying (Construction
     Bill of Quantities                             Economics)
     Tendering
     Specifications for Labor &
                                                    e.g. France (Economiste
     Materials                                      de la Construction),
     Payment                                        Ireland, U.K.
     Dilapidation Scheduling
     Pricing
     Proof of Evidence

FIG-Working Week:
Seoul, Korea, 6-11.5.2001   B.Psarianos: Non-Geodetic Surveyors           17
Rural and Surveying Engineer
     Land Surveying                                 Degree in Rural and
     Hydraulic Engineering                          Surveying Engineering or
     Regional Planning                              Relevant Studies
     Transportation                                 e.g Germany (partially),
     Engineering                                    Greece, Switzerland




FIG-Working Week:
Seoul, Korea, 6-11.5.2001   B.Psarianos: Non-Geodetic Surveyors           18
Concluding Remarks
     Surveying covers indeed a wide spectrum of
     professional activities not widely known even within the
     surveying community
     Component of planning in the Surveying Profession
     (non-geodetic surveyor) is important (e.g.
     predominance in GIS Market !)
     Embracing the whole spectrum of Surveying is vital for
     the profession (Foster)
     Not easy but inevitable if …

FIG-Working Week:
Seoul, Korea, 6-11.5.2001   B.Psarianos: Non-Geodetic Surveyors   19

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The non geodetic surveying professional activities

  • 1. The Role of Non-geodetic Professional Expertise of a University Educated Surveyor in an Emerging Ambiguous and Unsafe Future of the Profession Dr. Basil Psarianos, Assoc. Professor Nat’l Tech. Univ. of Athens, Greece European Group of Surveyors, President psari@survey.ntua.gr
  • 2. Meaning of Professional Titles Architects, Lawyers, Civil Engineers, Doctors, Surveyors… traditional names with abstract meaning anymore Professional Titles Professional Activities Professions =∑ƒ(specific qualifications) Expertise: Job Description⇔ n Ω= ƒi(qualifications|m) FIG-Working Week: Seoul, Korea, 6-11.5.2001 B.Psarianos: Non-Geodetic Surveyors 2
  • 3. The Surveying Problem Impact of New Technologies Activities of the Surveying Profession FIG-Working Week: Seoul, Korea, 6-11.5.2001 B.Psarianos: Non-Geodetic Surveyors 3
  • 4. New Technologies… Measurements and Data Modeling is relatively easy Market Profile: Qualifications of >BAC+3 not quite necessary, e.g. in public sector of Germany: Surveying Technicians increased by 11.5% between 1984 and 1995 Surveying Engineers reduced by 10.6% in same period FIG-Working Week: Seoul, Korea, 6-11.5.2001 B.Psarianos: Non-Geodetic Surveyors 4
  • 5. Surveyor… Profession of … variations, diversifications, split, undefined sectors, different names Local and biased definitions FIG definition: globally incomplete and non all-inclusive; needs redefinition Full understanding of Surveyors Profile is of paramount importance for re-establishing an attractive profession globally; a Profile of Integrated Competence in Land, Property and Construction (Magel,1999) FIG-Working Week: Seoul, Korea, 6-11.5.2001 B.Psarianos: Non-Geodetic Surveyors 5
  • 6. Non-geodetic Surveyor: Accomplishments Successful and Respected Professional where found High Level Qualifications Accepted by Free-Market Untouched by current negative market trends of the conventional surveying activities FIG-Working Week: Seoul, Korea, 6-11.5.2001 B.Psarianos: Non-Geodetic Surveyors 6
  • 7. Non-Geodetic Surveyor: Who is Who ? Supplement to conventional Surveying Qualifications or Individual educational background Accredited and licensed usually by individual body Some are represented in FIG, e.g. urban planner, valuator, land manager etc. Frequently a Title is associated with specific professional activities FIG-Working Week: Seoul, Korea, 6-11.5.2001 B.Psarianos: Non-Geodetic Surveyors 7
  • 8. Archaeological Surveyor Making plans, maps of Degree in Archaeology archaeological sites with Land Surveying Use of Special Methods Supplement for locating buried Vice Versa Objects (Magnetic, Radioactive Methods E.g. Greece, Italy, U.K. etc) Accurate plotting of Artifacts and Archaeological Finds FIG-Working Week: Seoul, Korea, 6-11.5.2001 B.Psarianos: Non-Geodetic Surveyors 8
  • 9. Building Surveyor Plans & Specifications of Degree in Building Building Works Surveying or Relevant Alterations & Extensions of Studies Buildings e.g. Greece (partially), Administration, Coordination, Control of Building Projects Italy, Ireland, Spain, U.K. Application of Landlord, Tenant, Administrative, Building and Contract Law FIG-Working Week: Seoul, Korea, 6-11.5.2001 B.Psarianos: Non-Geodetic Surveyors 9
  • 10. Building Services Engineering Surveyor (~Facility Manager) Contractual Degree in Building Documentation Services Engineering or Measurement & Relevant Studies Evaluation of Building e.g. Germany (facility Services manager-FM), Italy, Equipment & Ireland, U.K., U.S.A. Installations (FM) Accounting Legitimate Claims FIG-Working Week: Seoul, Korea, 6-11.5.2001 B.Psarianos: Non-Geodetic Surveyors 10
  • 11. Civil Engineering Surveyor Surveying, Setting-out, Degree in Civil Supervision of Civil Engineering or Relevant Engineering Works Studies Stability of Structures e.g. Greece, Ireland, Testing of Materials U.K. Quality Control Remedying Structural Defects Contract Law FIG-Working Week: Seoul, Korea, 6-11.5.2001 B.Psarianos: Non-Geodetic Surveyors 11
  • 12. Construction Surveyor Construction Degree in Construction Management Process Surveying or Relevant Tendering & Post- Studies Tendering e.g. Greece, Italy, U.K. Estimation Technical Law Financial Control of Projects FIG-Working Week: Seoul, Korea, 6-11.5.2001 B.Psarianos: Non-Geodetic Surveyors 12
  • 13. Environmental Engineer Resource Management Degree in Environmental Sanitary Engineering Engineering or Relevant Rejuvenation of Studies Contaminated Soil and e.g. Greece, Switzerland Water Risk Analysis Risk Engineering FIG-Working Week: Seoul, Korea, 6-11.5.2001 B.Psarianos: Non-Geodetic Surveyors 13
  • 14. Mining Surveyor Plan preparation Degrees in Geology or Mining Surveying Mining Engineering or Geological and Mineralogical Relevant Studies Features Recording e.g. Germany, U.K. Ventilation Safety Surveys Mineral Valuation and Rating Soil Stability FIG-Working Week: Seoul, Korea, 6-11.5.2001 B.Psarianos: Non-Geodetic Surveyors 14
  • 15. Municipal Surveyor Building Control Degrees in Civil Public Safety Engineering Surveying, Operation of Grant Land Surveying, Schemes Valuation, Town Improvement & Planning etc. Redevelopment of Areas e.g. U.K. Landscaping Labor Organization Town Planning FIG-Working Week: Seoul, Korea, 6-11.5.2001 B.Psarianos: Non-Geodetic Surveyors 15
  • 16. Town Planning Surveyor Land Use Management Degree in Town and Environmental Country Planning or Assessment Relevant Studies Development Briefs e.g. Denmark, Germany Conservation Area (Dipl.-Ing.), Greece, U.K. Policies Transportation Strategy Countryside Schemes FIG-Working Week: Seoul, Korea, 6-11.5.2001 B.Psarianos: Non-Geodetic Surveyors 16
  • 17. Quantity Surveyor Cost Estimates Degree in Quantity Cost plans Surveying (Construction Bill of Quantities Economics) Tendering Specifications for Labor & e.g. France (Economiste Materials de la Construction), Payment Ireland, U.K. Dilapidation Scheduling Pricing Proof of Evidence FIG-Working Week: Seoul, Korea, 6-11.5.2001 B.Psarianos: Non-Geodetic Surveyors 17
  • 18. Rural and Surveying Engineer Land Surveying Degree in Rural and Hydraulic Engineering Surveying Engineering or Regional Planning Relevant Studies Transportation e.g Germany (partially), Engineering Greece, Switzerland FIG-Working Week: Seoul, Korea, 6-11.5.2001 B.Psarianos: Non-Geodetic Surveyors 18
  • 19. Concluding Remarks Surveying covers indeed a wide spectrum of professional activities not widely known even within the surveying community Component of planning in the Surveying Profession (non-geodetic surveyor) is important (e.g. predominance in GIS Market !) Embracing the whole spectrum of Surveying is vital for the profession (Foster) Not easy but inevitable if … FIG-Working Week: Seoul, Korea, 6-11.5.2001 B.Psarianos: Non-Geodetic Surveyors 19