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Two Observations: Cambodian-Thai
     Relations

One: History Textbooks
Two: Turning the Battlefields into
Hindu-Buddhist
Trans-Boundary World Heritages
Two Observations: Cambodian-Thai Relations
      Religion, Politics, Nationalism
          and an Ancient Temple

         Background and Contemporary Debates
           of the 2011 Cambodia-Thai Border


             AAS-ICAS Annual Conference
          Honolulu, Hawaii 2011, 31 March 2011

                Charnvit Kasetsiri
               charnvitkasetsiri.com
              Thammasat University
             Bangkok, Siam (Thailand)
One

„Bad‟ History – „Bad‟ Education

              and

        „Bad‟ ASEAN
     Neighbour Relations
What I would like to do is to give you pictures of interactions
  between history-myth, education, textbooks, and Thailand/Siam‟s
  relations with her neighbors. In this age of globalization and even
    with regional organizations like ASEAN/GMS/ASEM/ADB we
   seem to have some difficulties as good neighbors to one another.


 We will see that the use of the Past, History-myth, if not
     up-right, incorrectly perceived, negatively and
    politically exploited could produce an unpleasant
                          outcome.

In other words „bad history‟ produces „bad education‟ and
     eventually leads to „bad relations between nations‟.
On January 29, 2003, theThai Embassy in Phnom Penh,
        Cambodia was torched and burnt down.
       Thai diplomats had to run for their lives.
   The Thai Government of Mr. Thaksin flew planes into Cambodia
           to evacuate all Thai citizens from Phnom Penh.

          This ugly episode of Thai-Cambodian relations started with a news that
               a popular Thai TV female star was reported to have said that
„she would not visit Cambodia unless the 800 year-old temple of Angkor Wat was returned
      to Thailand‟. I, personally, do not believe that the Thai star said that kind of word.

  But the news, regarded as a serious insult to the Cambodian Nation, spread like fire.
                    It was reported in Khmer newspapers and radio.
        On top of that there was a rumor that Cambodian diplomats in Bangkok
                                were brutally murdered.

               There were students demonstrations which eventually led to
                     the burning and looting of the Thai Embassy.
Cambodian Flag




Kob Suwanan
Niang Prakai Pruk   Angkor Wat
Thai TV star
Students began their protest by marching through the city and burned a
   Thai flag and a photograph of Kob-Suwanan outside the embassy.
 The size of the demonstration swelled to around one thousand and the
crowd became more aggressive as the day progressed, burning tyres and
throwing rocks at the embassy. After a day of flag-burning and anti-Thai
   chanting, the crowd massed outside the embassy towards nightfall.
Royal Thai Embassy: Phnom Penh




                                 Thailand estimates the damage at about
                                 US$ 23 million and has demanded that
                                 Phnom Penh reimburse both the Thai
                                 government and the businesses affected.

                                 Bangkok has cut all economic and
                                 technical assistance pending a full
                                 explanation and compensation by
                                 Cambodia. It also demanded that those
                                 responsible be jailed.
``The protest is because we hate the Thais inside Cambodia and
because the Thais encroach on Cambodian border territory,'' said
                Virak, an 18-year-old law student.
Two

Preah Vihear – Phra Viharn
         Temple

  Unesco World Heritage
        2008-2011
Preah Vihear Temple
Unesco World Heritage since 2008
14
Turning a Market Place into Battlefields
สงคราม หรือ สันติภาพ
War or Peace
Battlefields - Thai-Cambodian Border
Village Houses Burning:
Thai-Cambodian Border February
             2011
Phum Srol-Srisaket :
               Reds versus Yellows along the Border
                               2008




Battlefields Thai versus Thai along the Border 2008-2011
As you can see the incidents in the Angkor-
 remark in 2003 and Preah Vihear Unesco
       Heritage Affairs of 2008-2011
        are unpleasant and tragic.

     They may lead to a bigger war
    between the two Asean countries:
        Cambodia and Thailand.
One may ask why these two events happened and
  how come such a remark about “Angkor Wat”
 and simply the Temple nomination to the Unesco
        could spark up such ugly incidents ?
       We may explain that it is because of:
1. Khmer-Thai brands of Nationalism ?
2. Political Conflict and Manipulation ?
3. Love and Hate Relationship: Khmers & Thais
4. Unequal and Expliotative Relationship ?
5. Misundertanding & misuse of the Past/History
                  etc. etc.
As a history teacher of Thailand/Siam and
             Southeast Asia/Asean,
I would like to look and try to understand it
       from my own professional angle,
                      i.e.
            the use and misuse of
         History-myth and the Past,
             in my own country.
• First, let us see how the Thai in general see their neighbors.
 • By land Thailand/Siam is surrounded by mainland ASEAN
 countries: Burma, Laos, Cambodia, and Malaysia. If we include
island-neighbors, or by the sea, they would cover India, Indonesia
and Vietnam as well. As is known to all of you, in the colonial era,
                    Siam (Thailand) remained
the only independent country in Southeast Asia („history-myth‟).

• Therefore, from mid 19th century until after the Second World
   War the Thai Government in Bangkok had to pay attention to
 what the colonial powers would have to say. Bangkok had to deal
  with London and the British in India and Singapore, Paris and
                      the French in Vietnam.
• The Thai Elite need no concern nor having anything to do with
   the Burmese in Rangoon, the Lao in Vientiane, the Khmer in
  Phnom Penh, the Vietnamese in Saigon or Hanoi, nor the Malay
  in Kuala Lumpur, etc. Asians were kept apart from one another.
1920s Cartoon in Siam:

                                                     Showing Rama VI,
                                                the King of Siam (Thailand)
                                               pulling his Thai People high up,
                                                       while Burmese,
                                                 Vietnamese and Cambodian
                                                    were left down below.

                                                     In the background
                                                five former Bangkok Kings,
                                                    Rama I-II-III-IV-V,
                                                were watching up in the sky.

Cartoon from Vajiravudh‟s Time (Dusit Samit)
• In one of his interviews, Nidhi A., a leading Thai historian, explained how the
   Thai, especially the elite, see the neighbors. To us the Burmese
   have become a „permanent national enemy‟

• This was an outcome of Thai history writing from the latter part of the 19th
  century. For „nation-building‟, an enemy was needed to unify the people
  within Siam/Thailand while the country was threatened by the British and the
  French.

• Burma which in the pre-colonial time, used to have frequent wars with the Thai
  had already been colonized by the British. They were no longer a threat.

• So the wars between Ayutthaya and various Burmese Kingdoms
  have been high-lighted to show the struggle of the Thai people in the
  Past and to be a lesson for our unity in the Present.

 Illustrations like these are regularly portrayed in school textbooks.
 The episodes of the fall of the former Thai capital of Ayutthaya and
 the suffering and bravity of the Thai are also repeatedly reproduced
             in drama, songs, novels, films, and TV series.
Bang Rachan
                            History-Myth-Texts-Films-Plays-Songs




                                   Villagers of Bang Rachan
                                   fighting the Burmese, all
King Naresuan
in an elephant dual
                                   died heroic death during the
fighting a Burmese Prince          Fall of Ayutthaya in 1767.
King Naresuan Naresuan
            King
in an myth-historical dual Villagers of Bang Rachan
            in an elephant
            fighting a Burmese Prince
elephant dual                   fighting the Burmese, all
fighting a Burmese Princedied heroic death during the
                             Fall of Ayutthaya in 1767.
LAOS and CAMBODIA
              (what and how to the Thai)

• As for Laos and Cambodia, we, Thai viewed these
  neighbors rather inferior.
• They, the Lao and the Cambodians, have been seen as
  „younger‟ (smaller) and poorer.
• In the past, during Ayutthaya and early Bangkok periods,
  they were seen as our muang khuen or “colonies”.
• In the present they are less developped and poorer. So I
  would say that relationship with Laos and Cambodia is even
  much more difficult, complicated, sensitve, and
  problematic.
History Writing, Textbook,
            and the Ministry of Education

• In Thailand/Siam stop signs with warnings like:
  “Official Property, Do Not Enter without Permission”,
  are not uncommon. They are symbols of authority and
  a reminder to „know one‟s place‟ in this „bureaucratic
  polity‟.
• As a history teacher for more than thirty years I have
  the impression that history is also an official domain and
  there is no trespassing.
• This forbidden area is noticeable in what is, or correctly,
  is not, written „in‟ textbooks, especially for six-year
  primary and six-year secondary school students.
Fourth Year, Primary Sch.
    Students Aged 10

      THAI HISTORY
            Chapter 1:
   Urban Settlements in Thailand

            Chapter 2:
       Kingdom of Sukhothai

            Chapter 3:
    Contemporaries of Sukhothai
(Hariphunchai, Lanna, Phayao-Phrae-
Nan, Nakhon Sithammarat, Ayutthaya)

No Pagan, no Angkor, no Champa, no
   Melayu, etc. etc = no neighbors.
Perception of „mythical‟
Past for 4th Year-Aged
10 Primary School
Textbook

Sukhothai
The „first‟ Thai
Kingdom
13th-15th centuries

Shown in the Map of
Boundary covering
Malacca &
Temasek/Singapore ?
Fifth Year, Primary Sch.
        Students Aged 11

           Thai History
             Chapter 1:
Foundation of the Ayutthaya Kingdom

Chapter 2: Political and Administrative
       Evolution of Ayutthaya

  Chapter 3: Economic Evolution of
             Ayutthaya

    Chapter 4: Social and Buddhist
              Evolution

Chapter 5: Wars with the Burmese and
         Falls of Ayutthaya

  Chapter 6: New Capital: Thonburi
             (Bangkok)
1767 Fall of Ayutthaya: completely „destroyed‟ by the „Burmese‟ !?
Besides Textbooks, novels, drama, songs, Wars of„national independence‟
       films and TV series about         with „Burma‟ !?
Ayutthaya/Burmese have been repeated or of between Kings and Kings !?
      reproduced and reinvented
                                    Queens and Queens!?




                                                   Queen Sudachan




     Father: By former
    Minister of Edcation !?
Besides Textbooks, novels, drama, songs, films and TV series about
 Ayutthaya/Burmese have been repeated reproduced and reinvented




 Father: By former
Minister of Edcation !?
Mythical-historical Wars of „National Independence‟
Between „Thailand‟ and „Burma‟ Nation vs Nation !!!???
or of between Kings/Queens and Kings/Queens !!!???




                                              Queen Sudachan
King Naresuan Part I-II-III etc.


                                      Series
                                        of
                                     History
                                     Mythical
                                      Films
                                     heavily
                                     funded
                                       with
                                   public money
                                    disregard
                                        To
                                    Neighbors
กรุงยโสธรปุระ-อาณาจักรพระนคร-นครวัด-นครธม
ANGKOR (Contemporary of Ayutthaya, but…)
สร้างกรุงยโสธรปุระ
Birth of Angkor, not mentioned
The Fall of Angkor 1431, not mentioned




                        Concluding words
•   Myth-history: Problematic Textbooks
•   ‘Siam-Thailand’ nationally confined, no neighbors
•   Fall of Angkor 1431, not mentioned
•   King Chao Sam Phraya, attacking Angkor
•   เสียกรุงศรียโสธรปุระ พ.ศ. ๑๙๗๔/๑๔๓๑
•   ถูกกองทัพอยุธยาของพระเจ้าสามพระยาโจมตี
Sixth Year, Primary Sch.
                                       Students Aged 12

                                          THAI HISTORY
                                            Chapter 1:
                               Revival of the Country in Early
                                       Bangkok Period
                               Chapter 2: Thailand Entered the
                                          Modern Age
                              („lost‟ of territories (เสียดินแดน 1940s) to
                                the Western powers: Left Bank of the
                                  Mekong (Laos), 1893, Siem Reap,
                                 Battambang, Sisophon, 1907 Kedah,
                               Palis, Kelantan, Trengganu, 1909, and
                                        remained independent)
                                       Chapter 3: Democratic
                                   Administrative Change
                              Chapter 4: Evolution of Democratic
9 King Ramas of Bangkok Era
                                         Administration
Big „Lost‟ of Territories to the
Western powers, the British and
         the French:

Laos or the whole area of the left bank
      of the Mekong River, 1893

Cambodia, Siem Reap (Angkor Wat),
   Battambang, Sisophon 1907

   Malaysia: Kedah/Saiburi, Pelis,
      Kelantan, Terengganu,
               1909

 And Siam/Thailand remained
 independent: history-myth ?
Ultra-Nationalism
           reproduced 2008-11
Internet-online-long distance nationalism
     Modern or anachronistic !!!???
How much TERRITORIES
have we LOST ? 14 or 15 times !!! ???
Biggest Lost, No 12 !!!???
            Inner Cambodia, 1907
Siem Reap (Angkor Wat), Battambang, Sisophon
Interestingly, what we do not know-
inconvenient truth, Khmer „mapped‟
A leading Thai historian, Thongchai Winichakul,
          has this concluding word about Thai history:

• “Historical studies in Thailand have been closely related
  to the formation of the nation since the late nineteenth
  century...
• It presented a royal/national chronicle, a historiography
  modern in character but based upon traditional
  perceptions of the past and traditional materials.
• It was a collection of stories by and for the national elite
  celebrating their successful mission of building and
  protecting the country despite great difficulties, and
  promising a prosperous future.
• The plot and meaning of this melodramatic past have
  become a paradigm of historical discourse, making history
  an ideological weapon and a source of legitimation of the
  state.”
Concluding words for Cambodian, Thai,
Southeast Asians and ASEAN Community


                  Concluding words
ONE

                   Our Texts
   on History and the Past of Thailand/Siam
(including most of the Asean/GMS countries)
  especially in relations with our Neighbors
  are problematic and need a serious reform.
TWO

              Our History Texts
 must be revised in order to be up-right,
correctly perceived in order for us to live
     peaceful together in this age of
 Regionalism-Asean Community/GMS
           and Globalization.
THREE


  We, Cambodian, Lao, Thai, Vietnamese
    (including all Asean/GMS citizens)
need to know and understand not just about
  ourselves but also in relations with our
  Neighbors, especially the closed ones on
 mainland Southeast Asia i.e. Burma, Laos,
 Cambodia, Malaysia, and Thailand/Siam.
FOUR


     What has happened in the PAST
          can not be changed
but what is happening in the PRESENT
   can be rescued for the FUTURE.
FIVE
            Perhaps an urgently needed task of
      ASEAN/GMS Education Ministers + 3 or 4
(i.e. China, Japan, Korea, India, or even Taiwan),
   together with some NGOs or education-oriented
                     organizations,
        is to sit down and work out together.
   New Textbooks, new Histories, for the sake of
   peace, prosperity, and friendship of the ASEAN
            Community are urgently needed.
SIX
        Creating Network and Linkage of
      Peoples to Peoples---Locals to Locals
(not just Governments to Governments as usual)
            Academics to Academics
              Students to Students
                 Youth to Youth
 (Traveling classrooms for Undergrads from Cambodia, Laos,
                   Thailand, and Vietnam, etc.
       From Ho Chi Minh to Phnom Penh to Bangkok
                  to Vientiane and to Hanoi)
That was my Observation one:
Revising History Textbooks for ASEAN

Now, Observation two: Turning the
Battlefields into Hindu-Buddhist Trans-
Boundary ASEAN World Heritages:
เทือกเขาพนมดงรัก (ไทย) – แดงเร็ก (กัมพูชา)
Phanom Dongrak in Thai – Chuŏr Phnum Dângrêk in Cambodian:




            LAND-MOUNTAINS OF PRASAT
           IN CAMBODIA-LAOS-THAILAND
LAND-WATER OF THE MEKONG
IN CAMBODIA-LAOS-THAILAND
To avoid War, my second proposal is that:
--from the Dong Phyayen-Khao Yai Forest, in
Khorat, Thailand…,
--all the way along the Phnom Dangrek Mountians
to Prasat Phnom Rung, to Prasat Preah Vihear and
Prasat Vat Phou….
--to the Biggest Waterfalls of Asia, i.e. Khon Papeng
and Li Phi…
--should be turned into:
   AN ASEAN ECO-CULTURAL
TRANS-BOUNDARY WORLD HERITAGE SITES
The Emerald Triangle
 Land-Mountains-Water
Cambodia-Laos-Thialand
Khon Phapheng Falls
Khon Phapeng-Li Phi
            Phnom Dangrek:?
Khao Yai:                                 Falls ?
  WH                Preah Vihear: WH
        Phnom Rung ?                Vat Phou:WH




         ASEAN ECO-CULTURAL
           TRANS-BOUNDARY
         WORLD HERITAGE SITES
Hindu-Buddhist Prasats-Mountains and Rivers
   Phnom Dangrek-Middle Mekong Basin
    belonging to Cambodia-Laos-Siam/Thailand
Lesson from Latin America

      Iguaçu Falls

        น้าตกอีกวาซู
Paraguay


Argentina




            Brazil
•ARGENTINA
Independently inscribed

        1984
  •BRAZIL
Independently inscribed
        1987
BRAZIL
 1987




         ARGENTINA
            1984
Lesson from Europe

      The Belfries
of Belgium and France
   Serially inscribed
World Heritage Belfries of Belgium and France




                                    Belgium



          France                                Belfries
                                        of Belgium and France
                                    serially nominated & inscribed
Khon Phapeng-Li Phi
            Phnom Dangrek:?
Khao Yai:                                 Falls ?
  WH                Preah Vihear: WH
        Phnom Rung ?                Vat Phou:WH




         ASEAN ECO-CULTURAL
           TRANS-BOUNDARY
         WORLD HERITAGE SITES
Phnom Wan      Muang Tam
 Phimai                                 Sra Kampaeng Yai-Noi
          Phnom Rung

  Bantei Cmar                   Preah Vihear

                         Preah Khan          Vat Phou
Srok Kok Thom                                Waterfalls
   Prasat Noi         Angkor    Sambor Preikuk
                                                       Thara
                                                      Borivat




  Plus, plus, plus
The Emerald Triangle
        Land-Mountains-Water
    of the Dangrek and the Mekong
        Cambodia-Laos-Thialand
   serially nominated and inscribed
as Asean Eco-cultural World Heritages
For Peace, Humanity and
     ASEAN Community
             Som Orkun
          Kho khob chai
         Khob khun krab

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Two Observation: Khmer-Thai by Charnvit Ks

  • 1. Two Observations: Cambodian-Thai Relations One: History Textbooks Two: Turning the Battlefields into Hindu-Buddhist Trans-Boundary World Heritages
  • 2. Two Observations: Cambodian-Thai Relations Religion, Politics, Nationalism and an Ancient Temple Background and Contemporary Debates of the 2011 Cambodia-Thai Border AAS-ICAS Annual Conference Honolulu, Hawaii 2011, 31 March 2011 Charnvit Kasetsiri charnvitkasetsiri.com Thammasat University Bangkok, Siam (Thailand)
  • 3. One „Bad‟ History – „Bad‟ Education and „Bad‟ ASEAN Neighbour Relations
  • 4. What I would like to do is to give you pictures of interactions between history-myth, education, textbooks, and Thailand/Siam‟s relations with her neighbors. In this age of globalization and even with regional organizations like ASEAN/GMS/ASEM/ADB we seem to have some difficulties as good neighbors to one another. We will see that the use of the Past, History-myth, if not up-right, incorrectly perceived, negatively and politically exploited could produce an unpleasant outcome. In other words „bad history‟ produces „bad education‟ and eventually leads to „bad relations between nations‟.
  • 5. On January 29, 2003, theThai Embassy in Phnom Penh, Cambodia was torched and burnt down. Thai diplomats had to run for their lives. The Thai Government of Mr. Thaksin flew planes into Cambodia to evacuate all Thai citizens from Phnom Penh. This ugly episode of Thai-Cambodian relations started with a news that a popular Thai TV female star was reported to have said that „she would not visit Cambodia unless the 800 year-old temple of Angkor Wat was returned to Thailand‟. I, personally, do not believe that the Thai star said that kind of word. But the news, regarded as a serious insult to the Cambodian Nation, spread like fire. It was reported in Khmer newspapers and radio. On top of that there was a rumor that Cambodian diplomats in Bangkok were brutally murdered. There were students demonstrations which eventually led to the burning and looting of the Thai Embassy.
  • 6. Cambodian Flag Kob Suwanan Niang Prakai Pruk Angkor Wat Thai TV star
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  • 8. Students began their protest by marching through the city and burned a Thai flag and a photograph of Kob-Suwanan outside the embassy. The size of the demonstration swelled to around one thousand and the crowd became more aggressive as the day progressed, burning tyres and throwing rocks at the embassy. After a day of flag-burning and anti-Thai chanting, the crowd massed outside the embassy towards nightfall.
  • 9. Royal Thai Embassy: Phnom Penh Thailand estimates the damage at about US$ 23 million and has demanded that Phnom Penh reimburse both the Thai government and the businesses affected. Bangkok has cut all economic and technical assistance pending a full explanation and compensation by Cambodia. It also demanded that those responsible be jailed.
  • 10. ``The protest is because we hate the Thais inside Cambodia and because the Thais encroach on Cambodian border territory,'' said Virak, an 18-year-old law student.
  • 11. Two Preah Vihear – Phra Viharn Temple Unesco World Heritage 2008-2011
  • 12. Preah Vihear Temple Unesco World Heritage since 2008
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  • 17. Turning a Market Place into Battlefields
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  • 22. Phum Srol-Srisaket : Reds versus Yellows along the Border 2008 Battlefields Thai versus Thai along the Border 2008-2011
  • 23. As you can see the incidents in the Angkor- remark in 2003 and Preah Vihear Unesco Heritage Affairs of 2008-2011 are unpleasant and tragic. They may lead to a bigger war between the two Asean countries: Cambodia and Thailand.
  • 24. One may ask why these two events happened and how come such a remark about “Angkor Wat” and simply the Temple nomination to the Unesco could spark up such ugly incidents ? We may explain that it is because of: 1. Khmer-Thai brands of Nationalism ? 2. Political Conflict and Manipulation ? 3. Love and Hate Relationship: Khmers & Thais 4. Unequal and Expliotative Relationship ? 5. Misundertanding & misuse of the Past/History etc. etc.
  • 25. As a history teacher of Thailand/Siam and Southeast Asia/Asean, I would like to look and try to understand it from my own professional angle, i.e. the use and misuse of History-myth and the Past, in my own country.
  • 26. • First, let us see how the Thai in general see their neighbors. • By land Thailand/Siam is surrounded by mainland ASEAN countries: Burma, Laos, Cambodia, and Malaysia. If we include island-neighbors, or by the sea, they would cover India, Indonesia and Vietnam as well. As is known to all of you, in the colonial era, Siam (Thailand) remained the only independent country in Southeast Asia („history-myth‟). • Therefore, from mid 19th century until after the Second World War the Thai Government in Bangkok had to pay attention to what the colonial powers would have to say. Bangkok had to deal with London and the British in India and Singapore, Paris and the French in Vietnam. • The Thai Elite need no concern nor having anything to do with the Burmese in Rangoon, the Lao in Vientiane, the Khmer in Phnom Penh, the Vietnamese in Saigon or Hanoi, nor the Malay in Kuala Lumpur, etc. Asians were kept apart from one another.
  • 27. 1920s Cartoon in Siam: Showing Rama VI, the King of Siam (Thailand) pulling his Thai People high up, while Burmese, Vietnamese and Cambodian were left down below. In the background five former Bangkok Kings, Rama I-II-III-IV-V, were watching up in the sky. Cartoon from Vajiravudh‟s Time (Dusit Samit)
  • 28. • In one of his interviews, Nidhi A., a leading Thai historian, explained how the Thai, especially the elite, see the neighbors. To us the Burmese have become a „permanent national enemy‟ • This was an outcome of Thai history writing from the latter part of the 19th century. For „nation-building‟, an enemy was needed to unify the people within Siam/Thailand while the country was threatened by the British and the French. • Burma which in the pre-colonial time, used to have frequent wars with the Thai had already been colonized by the British. They were no longer a threat. • So the wars between Ayutthaya and various Burmese Kingdoms have been high-lighted to show the struggle of the Thai people in the Past and to be a lesson for our unity in the Present. Illustrations like these are regularly portrayed in school textbooks. The episodes of the fall of the former Thai capital of Ayutthaya and the suffering and bravity of the Thai are also repeatedly reproduced in drama, songs, novels, films, and TV series.
  • 29. Bang Rachan History-Myth-Texts-Films-Plays-Songs Villagers of Bang Rachan fighting the Burmese, all King Naresuan in an elephant dual died heroic death during the fighting a Burmese Prince Fall of Ayutthaya in 1767.
  • 30. King Naresuan Naresuan King in an myth-historical dual Villagers of Bang Rachan in an elephant fighting a Burmese Prince elephant dual fighting the Burmese, all fighting a Burmese Princedied heroic death during the Fall of Ayutthaya in 1767.
  • 31. LAOS and CAMBODIA (what and how to the Thai) • As for Laos and Cambodia, we, Thai viewed these neighbors rather inferior. • They, the Lao and the Cambodians, have been seen as „younger‟ (smaller) and poorer. • In the past, during Ayutthaya and early Bangkok periods, they were seen as our muang khuen or “colonies”. • In the present they are less developped and poorer. So I would say that relationship with Laos and Cambodia is even much more difficult, complicated, sensitve, and problematic.
  • 32. History Writing, Textbook, and the Ministry of Education • In Thailand/Siam stop signs with warnings like: “Official Property, Do Not Enter without Permission”, are not uncommon. They are symbols of authority and a reminder to „know one‟s place‟ in this „bureaucratic polity‟. • As a history teacher for more than thirty years I have the impression that history is also an official domain and there is no trespassing. • This forbidden area is noticeable in what is, or correctly, is not, written „in‟ textbooks, especially for six-year primary and six-year secondary school students.
  • 33. Fourth Year, Primary Sch. Students Aged 10 THAI HISTORY Chapter 1: Urban Settlements in Thailand Chapter 2: Kingdom of Sukhothai Chapter 3: Contemporaries of Sukhothai (Hariphunchai, Lanna, Phayao-Phrae- Nan, Nakhon Sithammarat, Ayutthaya) No Pagan, no Angkor, no Champa, no Melayu, etc. etc = no neighbors.
  • 34. Perception of „mythical‟ Past for 4th Year-Aged 10 Primary School Textbook Sukhothai The „first‟ Thai Kingdom 13th-15th centuries Shown in the Map of Boundary covering Malacca & Temasek/Singapore ?
  • 35. Fifth Year, Primary Sch. Students Aged 11 Thai History Chapter 1: Foundation of the Ayutthaya Kingdom Chapter 2: Political and Administrative Evolution of Ayutthaya Chapter 3: Economic Evolution of Ayutthaya Chapter 4: Social and Buddhist Evolution Chapter 5: Wars with the Burmese and Falls of Ayutthaya Chapter 6: New Capital: Thonburi (Bangkok)
  • 36. 1767 Fall of Ayutthaya: completely „destroyed‟ by the „Burmese‟ !?
  • 37. Besides Textbooks, novels, drama, songs, Wars of„national independence‟ films and TV series about with „Burma‟ !? Ayutthaya/Burmese have been repeated or of between Kings and Kings !? reproduced and reinvented Queens and Queens!? Queen Sudachan Father: By former Minister of Edcation !?
  • 38. Besides Textbooks, novels, drama, songs, films and TV series about Ayutthaya/Burmese have been repeated reproduced and reinvented Father: By former Minister of Edcation !?
  • 39. Mythical-historical Wars of „National Independence‟ Between „Thailand‟ and „Burma‟ Nation vs Nation !!!??? or of between Kings/Queens and Kings/Queens !!!??? Queen Sudachan
  • 40. King Naresuan Part I-II-III etc. Series of History Mythical Films heavily funded with public money disregard To Neighbors
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  • 45. The Fall of Angkor 1431, not mentioned Concluding words
  • 46. Myth-history: Problematic Textbooks • ‘Siam-Thailand’ nationally confined, no neighbors • Fall of Angkor 1431, not mentioned • King Chao Sam Phraya, attacking Angkor • เสียกรุงศรียโสธรปุระ พ.ศ. ๑๙๗๔/๑๔๓๑ • ถูกกองทัพอยุธยาของพระเจ้าสามพระยาโจมตี
  • 47. Sixth Year, Primary Sch. Students Aged 12 THAI HISTORY Chapter 1: Revival of the Country in Early Bangkok Period Chapter 2: Thailand Entered the Modern Age („lost‟ of territories (เสียดินแดน 1940s) to the Western powers: Left Bank of the Mekong (Laos), 1893, Siem Reap, Battambang, Sisophon, 1907 Kedah, Palis, Kelantan, Trengganu, 1909, and remained independent) Chapter 3: Democratic Administrative Change Chapter 4: Evolution of Democratic 9 King Ramas of Bangkok Era Administration
  • 48. Big „Lost‟ of Territories to the Western powers, the British and the French: Laos or the whole area of the left bank of the Mekong River, 1893 Cambodia, Siem Reap (Angkor Wat), Battambang, Sisophon 1907 Malaysia: Kedah/Saiburi, Pelis, Kelantan, Terengganu, 1909 And Siam/Thailand remained independent: history-myth ?
  • 49. Ultra-Nationalism reproduced 2008-11 Internet-online-long distance nationalism Modern or anachronistic !!!???
  • 50. How much TERRITORIES have we LOST ? 14 or 15 times !!! ???
  • 51. Biggest Lost, No 12 !!!??? Inner Cambodia, 1907 Siem Reap (Angkor Wat), Battambang, Sisophon
  • 52. Interestingly, what we do not know- inconvenient truth, Khmer „mapped‟
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  • 54. A leading Thai historian, Thongchai Winichakul, has this concluding word about Thai history: • “Historical studies in Thailand have been closely related to the formation of the nation since the late nineteenth century... • It presented a royal/national chronicle, a historiography modern in character but based upon traditional perceptions of the past and traditional materials. • It was a collection of stories by and for the national elite celebrating their successful mission of building and protecting the country despite great difficulties, and promising a prosperous future. • The plot and meaning of this melodramatic past have become a paradigm of historical discourse, making history an ideological weapon and a source of legitimation of the state.”
  • 55. Concluding words for Cambodian, Thai, Southeast Asians and ASEAN Community Concluding words
  • 56. ONE Our Texts on History and the Past of Thailand/Siam (including most of the Asean/GMS countries) especially in relations with our Neighbors are problematic and need a serious reform.
  • 57. TWO Our History Texts must be revised in order to be up-right, correctly perceived in order for us to live peaceful together in this age of Regionalism-Asean Community/GMS and Globalization.
  • 58. THREE We, Cambodian, Lao, Thai, Vietnamese (including all Asean/GMS citizens) need to know and understand not just about ourselves but also in relations with our Neighbors, especially the closed ones on mainland Southeast Asia i.e. Burma, Laos, Cambodia, Malaysia, and Thailand/Siam.
  • 59. FOUR What has happened in the PAST can not be changed but what is happening in the PRESENT can be rescued for the FUTURE.
  • 60. FIVE Perhaps an urgently needed task of ASEAN/GMS Education Ministers + 3 or 4 (i.e. China, Japan, Korea, India, or even Taiwan), together with some NGOs or education-oriented organizations, is to sit down and work out together. New Textbooks, new Histories, for the sake of peace, prosperity, and friendship of the ASEAN Community are urgently needed.
  • 61. SIX Creating Network and Linkage of Peoples to Peoples---Locals to Locals (not just Governments to Governments as usual) Academics to Academics Students to Students Youth to Youth (Traveling classrooms for Undergrads from Cambodia, Laos, Thailand, and Vietnam, etc. From Ho Chi Minh to Phnom Penh to Bangkok to Vientiane and to Hanoi)
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  • 63. That was my Observation one: Revising History Textbooks for ASEAN Now, Observation two: Turning the Battlefields into Hindu-Buddhist Trans- Boundary ASEAN World Heritages:
  • 64. เทือกเขาพนมดงรัก (ไทย) – แดงเร็ก (กัมพูชา) Phanom Dongrak in Thai – Chuŏr Phnum Dângrêk in Cambodian: LAND-MOUNTAINS OF PRASAT IN CAMBODIA-LAOS-THAILAND
  • 65. LAND-WATER OF THE MEKONG IN CAMBODIA-LAOS-THAILAND
  • 66. To avoid War, my second proposal is that: --from the Dong Phyayen-Khao Yai Forest, in Khorat, Thailand…, --all the way along the Phnom Dangrek Mountians to Prasat Phnom Rung, to Prasat Preah Vihear and Prasat Vat Phou…. --to the Biggest Waterfalls of Asia, i.e. Khon Papeng and Li Phi… --should be turned into: AN ASEAN ECO-CULTURAL TRANS-BOUNDARY WORLD HERITAGE SITES
  • 67. The Emerald Triangle Land-Mountains-Water Cambodia-Laos-Thialand
  • 69. Khon Phapeng-Li Phi Phnom Dangrek:? Khao Yai: Falls ? WH Preah Vihear: WH Phnom Rung ? Vat Phou:WH ASEAN ECO-CULTURAL TRANS-BOUNDARY WORLD HERITAGE SITES
  • 70. Hindu-Buddhist Prasats-Mountains and Rivers Phnom Dangrek-Middle Mekong Basin belonging to Cambodia-Laos-Siam/Thailand
  • 71. Lesson from Latin America Iguaçu Falls น้าตกอีกวาซู
  • 73. •ARGENTINA Independently inscribed 1984 •BRAZIL Independently inscribed 1987
  • 74. BRAZIL 1987 ARGENTINA 1984
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  • 76. Lesson from Europe The Belfries of Belgium and France Serially inscribed
  • 77. World Heritage Belfries of Belgium and France Belgium France Belfries of Belgium and France serially nominated & inscribed
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  • 80. Khon Phapeng-Li Phi Phnom Dangrek:? Khao Yai: Falls ? WH Preah Vihear: WH Phnom Rung ? Vat Phou:WH ASEAN ECO-CULTURAL TRANS-BOUNDARY WORLD HERITAGE SITES
  • 81. Phnom Wan Muang Tam Phimai Sra Kampaeng Yai-Noi Phnom Rung Bantei Cmar Preah Vihear Preah Khan Vat Phou Srok Kok Thom Waterfalls Prasat Noi Angkor Sambor Preikuk Thara Borivat Plus, plus, plus
  • 82. The Emerald Triangle Land-Mountains-Water of the Dangrek and the Mekong Cambodia-Laos-Thialand serially nominated and inscribed as Asean Eco-cultural World Heritages
  • 83. For Peace, Humanity and ASEAN Community Som Orkun Kho khob chai Khob khun krab