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Is life extension an enhancement? Yes and no and why that’s useful Aubrey D.N.J. de Grey Email:  [email_address] My website:  http://www.sens.org/
Is AdG a transhumanist? It depends what you mean by transhumanism... “ man remaining man, but transcending himself, by realizing new possibilities of and for his human nature” (Huxley 1957) “ a class of philosophies that seek to guide us towards a posthuman condition”(More 1990)
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Aging in a nutshell Metabolism  (the  hugely messy  network of homeostatic processes that keep us alive) causes Pathology  (the  hugely messy  network of anti-homeostatic processes that kill us) This is not controversial  -- indeed, it is why most biogerontologists think there’s little hope of curing aging for ages
Aging in slightly less of a nutshell Metabolism  ongoingly  causes  “damage” whereas Damage only  eventually  causes pathology This turns out to be very useful
Paradigms for intervention Gerontology    Geriatrics Metabolism  Damage  Pathology
Problem 1: this is the pathology ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Problem 2: this is metabolism
Paradigms for intervention Gerontology  Engineering  Geriatrics Metabolism  Damage  Pathology Claim:  only the “engineering” approach can achieve substantial extension of human healthspan any time soon
Metabolism  Damage   Pathology: The seven deadly things Neurodegeneration Atherosclerosis Cancer Diabetes Hormone decline Blindness Immune decline Etc, etc, etc Cell loss/atrophy Protein crosslinks Extracellular junk Death-resistant cells Mitochondrial mutations Lysosomal junk Nuclear [epi]mutations Er.... that’s it! Respiration (oxidation) Carbohydrate metabolism (glycation) Cell turnover (mutations,  telomere  shortening,  dysregulation,  stem cell  depletion) Etc, etc, etc
We know how to fix all of them  (in mice, in principle!) * * * See  www.sens.org/  for detail (lots of it, including all my publications) Allotopic expression of 13 proteins mtDNA mutations Transgenic microbial hydrolases Lysosomal junk Exercise, cell therapy, growth factors Cell loss, cell atrophy Ablation of unwanted cells Death-resistant cells Phagocytosis by immune stimulation Extracellular junk AGE-breaking molecules/enzymes Extracellular crosslinks Telomerase/ALT gene deletion plus periodic stem cell reseeding Nuclear [epi]mutations (only cancer matters) It or its effects reversible by Damage rising with age
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Age Reserve 0 0 max frail How can we do better than  this ?
Age Reserve 0 0 max frail How can we do better than  this ? Option 1:  start sooner .  Hm…
Age Reserve 0 0 max frail How can we do better than  this ? Option 2:  better therapy .  Hm…
Age Reserve 0 0 max frail How can we do better than  this ? Option 3:  periodic repair .  Better… but not good enough
Longevity escape velocity Conclusion:  The first 1000-year-old is probably only ~10 years younger than the first 150-year-old Age 0 0 max frail Reserve
How fast are breakthroughs refined? Goal of powered flight: prehistoric First powered flight: 1903 First transatlantic flight: 1927 First commercial jetliner: 1949 First supersonic airliner: 1969 Implication: Treatments that extend healthy life by  ~30 years will be the cusp:  recipients will mostly survive to receive treatments giving a further 30 years, etc.
Conclusion: the first 1000-year-old is probably only ~10 years younger than the first 150-year-old ………………………………… . Well, even if so, how old are they today?
A timeline I will defend (various versions of which you may have read…) Milestone: Robust Mouse Rejuvenation (RMR)  make normal  two -year-old mice, expected to live  one  more year, actually live  three  more years ,[object Object],[object Object]
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“ I’m about as un-transhumanist as can be: I don’t even want my nipples pierced.  I wouldn’t mind living longer though” Chris Gray at HETHR
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What do these two cars honestly have in common?
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Discrimination is unelectable Old people are people too …  and yet: “ a politician who was  rash  enough to campaign on a pledge to slow the ageing process would be judged as  lunatic ” Warner HR et al., EMBO Reports 2005;6:1006-1008 What gives?
The rational refinement of repugnance (or: why analogies are persuasive) Reflective equilibrium  (Rawls): a state of balance or coherence among a set of beliefs arrived at by a process of deliberative mutual adjustment among  general principles  and  particular judgements
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A challenge for the audience Q: Are there corresponding arguments for  “real” enhancements? A: Probably … but maybe not nearly such  strong ones.
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old people are people too female
old people are people too black
old people are people too poor
old people are people too old
Let’s  roll Website:   http://www.sens.org/ (no Finnish translation yet...) Email:  [email_address]

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Life Extension an Enhancement

  • 1. Is life extension an enhancement? Yes and no and why that’s useful Aubrey D.N.J. de Grey Email: [email_address] My website: http://www.sens.org/
  • 2. Is AdG a transhumanist? It depends what you mean by transhumanism... “ man remaining man, but transcending himself, by realizing new possibilities of and for his human nature” (Huxley 1957) “ a class of philosophies that seek to guide us towards a posthuman condition”(More 1990)
  • 3.
  • 4.
  • 5. Aging in a nutshell Metabolism (the hugely messy network of homeostatic processes that keep us alive) causes Pathology (the hugely messy network of anti-homeostatic processes that kill us) This is not controversial -- indeed, it is why most biogerontologists think there’s little hope of curing aging for ages
  • 6. Aging in slightly less of a nutshell Metabolism ongoingly causes “damage” whereas Damage only eventually causes pathology This turns out to be very useful
  • 7. Paradigms for intervention Gerontology Geriatrics Metabolism Damage Pathology
  • 8.
  • 9. Problem 2: this is metabolism
  • 10. Paradigms for intervention Gerontology Engineering Geriatrics Metabolism Damage Pathology Claim: only the “engineering” approach can achieve substantial extension of human healthspan any time soon
  • 11. Metabolism Damage Pathology: The seven deadly things Neurodegeneration Atherosclerosis Cancer Diabetes Hormone decline Blindness Immune decline Etc, etc, etc Cell loss/atrophy Protein crosslinks Extracellular junk Death-resistant cells Mitochondrial mutations Lysosomal junk Nuclear [epi]mutations Er.... that’s it! Respiration (oxidation) Carbohydrate metabolism (glycation) Cell turnover (mutations, telomere shortening, dysregulation, stem cell depletion) Etc, etc, etc
  • 12. We know how to fix all of them (in mice, in principle!) * * * See www.sens.org/ for detail (lots of it, including all my publications) Allotopic expression of 13 proteins mtDNA mutations Transgenic microbial hydrolases Lysosomal junk Exercise, cell therapy, growth factors Cell loss, cell atrophy Ablation of unwanted cells Death-resistant cells Phagocytosis by immune stimulation Extracellular junk AGE-breaking molecules/enzymes Extracellular crosslinks Telomerase/ALT gene deletion plus periodic stem cell reseeding Nuclear [epi]mutations (only cancer matters) It or its effects reversible by Damage rising with age
  • 13.
  • 14. Age Reserve 0 0 max frail How can we do better than this ?
  • 15. Age Reserve 0 0 max frail How can we do better than this ? Option 1: start sooner . Hm…
  • 16. Age Reserve 0 0 max frail How can we do better than this ? Option 2: better therapy . Hm…
  • 17. Age Reserve 0 0 max frail How can we do better than this ? Option 3: periodic repair . Better… but not good enough
  • 18. Longevity escape velocity Conclusion: The first 1000-year-old is probably only ~10 years younger than the first 150-year-old Age 0 0 max frail Reserve
  • 19. How fast are breakthroughs refined? Goal of powered flight: prehistoric First powered flight: 1903 First transatlantic flight: 1927 First commercial jetliner: 1949 First supersonic airliner: 1969 Implication: Treatments that extend healthy life by ~30 years will be the cusp: recipients will mostly survive to receive treatments giving a further 30 years, etc.
  • 20. Conclusion: the first 1000-year-old is probably only ~10 years younger than the first 150-year-old ………………………………… . Well, even if so, how old are they today?
  • 21.
  • 22.
  • 23. “ I’m about as un-transhumanist as can be: I don’t even want my nipples pierced. I wouldn’t mind living longer though” Chris Gray at HETHR
  • 24.
  • 25.
  • 26.
  • 27. What do these two cars honestly have in common?
  • 28.
  • 29. Discrimination is unelectable Old people are people too … and yet: “ a politician who was rash enough to campaign on a pledge to slow the ageing process would be judged as lunatic ” Warner HR et al., EMBO Reports 2005;6:1006-1008 What gives?
  • 30. The rational refinement of repugnance (or: why analogies are persuasive) Reflective equilibrium (Rawls): a state of balance or coherence among a set of beliefs arrived at by a process of deliberative mutual adjustment among general principles and particular judgements
  • 31.
  • 32. A challenge for the audience Q: Are there corresponding arguments for “real” enhancements? A: Probably … but maybe not nearly such strong ones.
  • 33.
  • 34. old people are people too female
  • 35. old people are people too black
  • 36. old people are people too poor
  • 37. old people are people too old
  • 38. Let’s roll Website: http://www.sens.org/ (no Finnish translation yet...) Email: [email_address]