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Software Security: Is OK Good
           Enough?
           Appsec USA 2011
           September 22, 2011

           John B. Dickson, CISSP
                         Denim Group, Ltd.
                         @johnbdickson




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Software Security: Is OK Good Enough?

   •    Current State of Affairs in Software Security
   •    What we can Learn from Other Justification Models
   •    Potential Software Security Justification Models
   •    Questions and Answers




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Current State of Affairs in Software Security
   • Testing approaches differ wildly
   • Incredible amount of energy focused on technical merits and demerits
     of testing activities
          – Existing application security scanners identify a subset of vulnerabilities in
            applications
          – 30-40% Coverage level is accepted norm
          – SQL injection/XSS – yes
          – Authorization & business logic – not so much




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1996 Network Security Question?



                                                     Firewall?




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2011 Application Security Question?



                                                     I’ve run my Automated SQL
                                                     Injection & XSS Application
                                                     Scanner?




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Checkbox Culture
   • Compliance culture and resource constraints have limited software
     security coverage
   • This cuts to the heart of “OK”
   • Heartland Payments Systems breach and PCI test coverage
          – Organizations try to limit PCI audit by design, even if many view PCI DSS as the
            most rigorous application security compliance framework




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(drawn to scale)




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Going Concern: In accounting,
                   "going concern" refers to a
                   company's ability to continue
                   functioning as a business entity.




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What do Street Vendor food and iTunes applications have in
   common?




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Introduction of malware into iTunes & Droid Apps stores

   • Applications submitted to the Apple iTunes AppStore and the Google
     Android store do not undergo rigorous security testing
   • Both application stores do not do "white listing” per se




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New York City
      • 24,000 restaurants inspected/year
      • Point-based rating scale
      • 3 Categories of violations
             •     Public health hazard (7 points)
             •     Critical violation (5 points)
             •     General violation (2 points)




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Venture a Guess?



                                                     • 3 Categories of violations
                                                         •   Public health hazard (7 points)
                                                         •   Critical violation (5 points)
                                                         •   General violation (2 points)




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Venture a Guess?



                                                     • 3 Categories of violations
                                                         •   Public health hazard (7 points)
                                                         •   Critical violation (5 points)
                                                         •   General violation (2 points)




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What we can Learn from Other Justification Models
 – Earthquake Building Codes

                               Haiti                 vs.   Chile




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What we can Learn from Other Justification Models

   • What we can learn from these two models?
   • No model is based purely on industry-driven compliance
          – Have no regulation is bad
   • Starting point is a generally accepted need for regulation
          – Buyers need to demand software “seatbelts”
          – Political consensus in Chile & California to enforce more stringent building codes
   • Must have Rule of Law present to enforce regulation
          – Building codes were in place in both Chile & Haiti
   • Misguided regulation may be more destructive than no regulation at all
          – e.g., Sarbanes Oxley




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So where do you go from here?




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Software Security Justification Models in an “OK” World

                 What can be Done Globally?




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We need more Earthquakes




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We Need Better Mainstream Scary Stories




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We Need Better Mainstream Scary Stories




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We Need Smarter buyers




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There’s an App for That!




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Software Security Justification Models in an “OK” World
        - In the World you Influence




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Tailor Responses for Limited Resources
  - ASVS “Applied” Case Study

          • Financial Services firm services 2,000 + banks
          • Before
             • Reactive testing
             • No repeatable or predictable
             • Poor coverage
          • After
             • Acceptable level of security testing
                  • Applied 80/20 rule to clients
             • Predictable results
             • Mutually understood results




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Tailor Responses for Limited Resources
  - Open Software Security Maturity Model (OpenSAMM)




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Tailor Responses for Limited Resources

                                                     Measure, Measure, Measure




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Realize that Sales & Marketing is our #1 Job




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We Need Better Developers
   • Is it enough to say you are “Rugged”
   • We need software developers to elevate their coding practices to
     lower the number of obvious security vulnerabilities
   • These developers need better tools
          – Modern frameworks
          – Static analysis baked into build
   • Starting point – software engineers need to be further along out of
     college
   • Industry responses
          – Carrot & stick models




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The New Negligence:
                 Eliminate SQL Injections and XSS




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The Negligence:
                 SQL Injections and XSS



  XSS &
  SQL Injections




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We need better coverage of attack space




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We need better coverage of attack space




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We need better coverage of attack space




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Questions, Answers, & Contact
     John B. Dickson, CISSP
     john@denimgroup.com
     (210) 572-4400

     www.denimgroup.com
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Software Security: Is OK Good Enough? OWASP AppSec USA 2011

  • 1. Software Security: Is OK Good Enough? Appsec USA 2011 September 22, 2011 John B. Dickson, CISSP Denim Group, Ltd. @johnbdickson © Copyright 2011 Denim Group - All Rights Reserved
  • 2. OWASP AppSec 2011 © Copyright 2011 Denim Group - All Rights Reserved 1
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  • 4. OWASP AppSec 2011 © Copyright 2011 Denim Group - All Rights Reserved 3
  • 5. Personal Background © Copyright 2011 Denim Group - All Rights Reserved 4
  • 6. Personal Background © Copyright 2011 Denim Group - All Rights Reserved 5
  • 7. OWASP AppSec 2011 © Copyright 2011 Denim Group - All Rights Reserved 6
  • 8. Software Security: Is OK Good Enough? • Current State of Affairs in Software Security • What we can Learn from Other Justification Models • Potential Software Security Justification Models • Questions and Answers © Copyright 2011 Denim Group - All Rights Reserved 7
  • 9. Current State of Affairs in Software Security • Testing approaches differ wildly • Incredible amount of energy focused on technical merits and demerits of testing activities – Existing application security scanners identify a subset of vulnerabilities in applications – 30-40% Coverage level is accepted norm – SQL injection/XSS – yes – Authorization & business logic – not so much © Copyright 2011 Denim Group - All Rights Reserved 8
  • 10. 1996 Network Security Question? Firewall? © Copyright 2011 Denim Group - All Rights Reserved
  • 11. 2011 Application Security Question? I’ve run my Automated SQL Injection & XSS Application Scanner? © Copyright 2011 Denim Group - All Rights Reserved
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  • 13. Checkbox Culture • Compliance culture and resource constraints have limited software security coverage • This cuts to the heart of “OK” • Heartland Payments Systems breach and PCI test coverage – Organizations try to limit PCI audit by design, even if many view PCI DSS as the most rigorous application security compliance framework © Copyright 2011 Denim Group - All Rights Reserved 12
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  • 18. Going Concern: In accounting, "going concern" refers to a company's ability to continue functioning as a business entity. © Copyright 2011 Denim Group - All Rights Reserved 17
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  • 20. What do Street Vendor food and iTunes applications have in common? © Copyright 2011 Denim Group - All Rights Reserved 19
  • 21. Introduction of malware into iTunes & Droid Apps stores • Applications submitted to the Apple iTunes AppStore and the Google Android store do not undergo rigorous security testing • Both application stores do not do "white listing” per se © Copyright 2011 Denim Group - All Rights Reserved 20
  • 22. New York City • 24,000 restaurants inspected/year • Point-based rating scale • 3 Categories of violations • Public health hazard (7 points) • Critical violation (5 points) • General violation (2 points) © Copyright 2011 Denim Group - All Rights Reserved 21
  • 23. Venture a Guess? • 3 Categories of violations • Public health hazard (7 points) • Critical violation (5 points) • General violation (2 points) © Copyright 2011 Denim Group - All Rights Reserved 22
  • 24. Venture a Guess? • 3 Categories of violations • Public health hazard (7 points) • Critical violation (5 points) • General violation (2 points) © Copyright 2011 Denim Group - All Rights Reserved 23
  • 25. What we can Learn from Other Justification Models – Earthquake Building Codes Haiti vs. Chile © Copyright 2011 Denim Group - All Rights Reserved 24
  • 26. What we can Learn from Other Justification Models • What we can learn from these two models? • No model is based purely on industry-driven compliance – Have no regulation is bad • Starting point is a generally accepted need for regulation – Buyers need to demand software “seatbelts” – Political consensus in Chile & California to enforce more stringent building codes • Must have Rule of Law present to enforce regulation – Building codes were in place in both Chile & Haiti • Misguided regulation may be more destructive than no regulation at all – e.g., Sarbanes Oxley © Copyright 2011 Denim Group - All Rights Reserved 25
  • 27. So where do you go from here? © Copyright 2011 Denim Group - All Rights Reserved 26
  • 28. Software Security Justification Models in an “OK” World What can be Done Globally? © Copyright 2011 Denim Group - All Rights Reserved 27
  • 29. We need more Earthquakes © Copyright 2011 Denim Group - All Rights Reserved 28
  • 30. We Need Better Mainstream Scary Stories © Copyright 2011 Denim Group - All Rights Reserved 29
  • 31. We Need Better Mainstream Scary Stories © Copyright 2011 Denim Group - All Rights Reserved 30
  • 32. We Need Smarter buyers © Copyright 2011 Denim Group - All Rights Reserved 31
  • 33. There’s an App for That! © Copyright 2011 Denim Group - All Rights Reserved 32
  • 34. Software Security Justification Models in an “OK” World - In the World you Influence © Copyright 2011 Denim Group - All Rights Reserved 33
  • 35. Tailor Responses for Limited Resources - ASVS “Applied” Case Study • Financial Services firm services 2,000 + banks • Before • Reactive testing • No repeatable or predictable • Poor coverage • After • Acceptable level of security testing • Applied 80/20 rule to clients • Predictable results • Mutually understood results © Copyright 2011 Denim Group - All Rights Reserved 34
  • 36. Tailor Responses for Limited Resources - Open Software Security Maturity Model (OpenSAMM) © Copyright 2011 Denim Group - All Rights Reserved 35
  • 37. Tailor Responses for Limited Resources Measure, Measure, Measure © Copyright 2011 Denim Group - All Rights Reserved 36
  • 38. Realize that Sales & Marketing is our #1 Job © Copyright 2011 Denim Group - All Rights Reserved 37
  • 39. We Need Better Developers • Is it enough to say you are “Rugged” • We need software developers to elevate their coding practices to lower the number of obvious security vulnerabilities • These developers need better tools – Modern frameworks – Static analysis baked into build • Starting point – software engineers need to be further along out of college • Industry responses – Carrot & stick models © Copyright 2011 Denim Group - All Rights Reserved 38
  • 40. The New Negligence: Eliminate SQL Injections and XSS © Copyright 2011 Denim Group - All Rights Reserved 39
  • 41. The Negligence: SQL Injections and XSS XSS & SQL Injections © Copyright 2011 Denim Group - All Rights Reserved 40
  • 42. We need better coverage of attack space © Copyright 2011 Denim Group - All Rights Reserved 41
  • 43. We need better coverage of attack space © Copyright 2011 Denim Group - All Rights Reserved 42
  • 44. We need better coverage of attack space © Copyright 2011 Denim Group - All Rights Reserved 43
  • 45. Questions, Answers, & Contact John B. Dickson, CISSP john@denimgroup.com (210) 572-4400 www.denimgroup.com blog.denimgroup.com Twitter: @johnbdickson © Copyright 2011 Denim Group - All Rights Reserved 44