The Creation Issue - Foundation Issues
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This is the third lecture in Dr. Ryan Jouett's lecture series on the Creation Issue, called "Foundational Issues." It deals with the foundations of the concept of creation as taught in Genesis and the foundational research that is used to push evolution and millions of years.
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The Creation Issue - Foundation Issues
- 59. • ANTISEPTIC SURGERY - JOSEPH LISTER (1827-1912)ANTISEPTIC SURGERY - JOSEPH LISTER (1827-1912) • BACTERIOLOGY - LOUIS PASTEUR (1822-1895)BACTERIOLOGY - LOUIS PASTEUR (1822-1895) • COMPUTER SCIENCE - CHARLES BABBAGE (1792-1871)COMPUTER SCIENCE - CHARLES BABBAGE (1792-1871) • DIMENSIONAL ANALYSIS - LORD RAYLEIGH (1842-1919)DIMENSIONAL ANALYSIS - LORD RAYLEIGH (1842-1919) • ELECTRONICS -ELECTRONICS - JOHN AMBROSE FLEMINGJOHN AMBROSE FLEMING (1849-1945)(1849-1945) • ELECTRODYNAMICS - JAMES CLERK MAXWELL (1831-1879)ELECTRODYNAMICS - JAMES CLERK MAXWELL (1831-1879) • ELECTRO-MAGNETICS - MICHAEL FARADAY (1791-1867)ELECTRO-MAGNETICS - MICHAEL FARADAY (1791-1867) • ENERGETICS -ENERGETICS - LORD KELVINLORD KELVIN (1824-1907)(1824-1907) • ENTOMOLOGY OF LIVING INSECTS - HENRI FABRE (1823-1915)ENTOMOLOGY OF LIVING INSECTS - HENRI FABRE (1823-1915) • FIELD THEORY - MICHAEL FARADAY (1791-1867)FIELD THEORY - MICHAEL FARADAY (1791-1867) • FLUID MECHANICS - GEORGE STOKES (1819-1903)FLUID MECHANICS - GEORGE STOKES (1819-1903) • GENETICS - GREGOR MENDEL (1822-1884)GENETICS - GREGOR MENDEL (1822-1884) • GLACIAL GEOLOGY - LOUIS AGASSIZ (1807-1873)GLACIAL GEOLOGY - LOUIS AGASSIZ (1807-1873) • THERMOKINETICS - HUMPHREY DAVY (1778-1829)THERMOKINETICS - HUMPHREY DAVY (1778-1829) Complete list of names and article available at: http://www.icr.org/article/185/ • HYDROGRAPHY - MATTHEW MAURY (1806-1873)HYDROGRAPHY - MATTHEW MAURY (1806-1873) • ICHTHYOLOGY - LOUIS AGASSIZ (1807-1873)ICHTHYOLOGY - LOUIS AGASSIZ (1807-1873) • ISOTOPIC CHEMISTRY - WILLIAM RAMSAY (1852-1916)ISOTOPIC CHEMISTRY - WILLIAM RAMSAY (1852-1916) • MODEL ANALYSIS - LORD RAYLEIGH (1842-1919)MODEL ANALYSIS - LORD RAYLEIGH (1842-1919) • NATURAL HISTORY - JOHN RAY (1627-1705)NATURAL HISTORY - JOHN RAY (1627-1705) • NON-EUCLIDEAN GEOMETRY - BERNHARD RIEMANN (1826- 1866)NON-EUCLIDEAN GEOMETRY - BERNHARD RIEMANN (1826- 1866) • OCEANOGRAPHY - MATTHEW MAURY (1806-1873)OCEANOGRAPHY - MATTHEW MAURY (1806-1873) • OPTICAL MINERALOGY - DAVID BREWSTER (1781-1868)OPTICAL MINERALOGY - DAVID BREWSTER (1781-1868) • PATHOLOGY - RUDOLPH VIRCHOW (1821-1902)PATHOLOGY - RUDOLPH VIRCHOW (1821-1902) • REVERSIBLE THERMODYNAMICS - JAMES JOULE (1818-1889)REVERSIBLE THERMODYNAMICS - JAMES JOULE (1818-1889) • STATISTICAL THERMODYNAMICS - JAMES CLERK MAXWELL (1831-1879)STATISTICAL THERMODYNAMICS - JAMES CLERK MAXWELL (1831-1879) • THERMODYNAMICS - LORD KELVIN (1824-1907)THERMODYNAMICS - LORD KELVIN (1824-1907) • PALEONTOLOGY - JOHN WOODWARD (1665-1728)PALEONTOLOGY - JOHN WOODWARD (1665-1728) • VERTEBRATE PALEONTOLOGY - GEORGES CUVIER (1769-1832)VERTEBRATE PALEONTOLOGY - GEORGES CUVIER (1769-1832)
Notes de l'éditeur
- Good Morning! Today we are going to talk about the foundational issues surrounding both Creation and Evolution Before we get started, let’s have some inspiring words from an athiest
- Thomas Nagel describes himself as a Materialist Professor of Philosophy and Law at NYU specializing in philosophy of mind, political philosophy and … … ethics EXPLAINS A LOT ABOUT THE LEGAL ISSUES COMING OUT OF THAT STATE He says it’s not that he thinks there isn’t a God, He doesn’t want there to be a God!
- Aldous Huxley – Darwin’s bulldog on his true motivation to push evolution and millions of years Again, let’s always remember…
- Always be ready to make a defense for the hope that is in you
- Be purposeful, conducting yourself with wisdom so you can respond to each person appropriately…
- And we need to be loving, not quarrelsome… Be consistent, prepared to give an answer, do it with respect and love, and do it with the goal, not to be right, but that they might come to Christ. For your Christians that wan to argue about it…
- TURN TO GENESIS 1 Almost every doctrine begins in Genesis….
- Remember, Scripture is historical and true We may never have all the answers this side of eternity, but there is no need to disbelieve Remember – EITHER GOD DELIBERATELY MISLED US OR HE TOLD US THE TRUTH Let’s go to Gen 1
- The heavens and the earth CLICK
- You go read the article here if you have specific questions. TURN FIRST TO Luke 12:19 about drinking and gluttony… (Going to 2 Peter next)
- This is why it is important to read things in context Out of context it looks like binge drinking and gluttony are condoned
- In context, God’s saying the prideful rich guy who said this is an idiot! AND PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BELIEVE MAN’S WORD OVER GODS WORD LOVE TO DO THE SAME THING WITH 2 PETER 3:8
- Out of context, that seems like you could apply that to creation – the problem is, it isn’t talking about creation, nor is it defining the word day… Lets read it in context OPEN YOUR BIBLES
- Abraham is traveling to the Land of Moriah to sacrifice Isaac and on the third day he looks up
- Now with that said – let’s read Gen 1:5
- HE MADE IT ABUNDANTLY CLEAR AGAIN - the only time someone argue about the obvious is when we’re wrong EXODUS VERSE IS COMING AFTER DAY 7!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Day 2 (vv. 6-8) Atmosphere Oceanic and Subterranean water
- Day 3 (vv. 9-13) Oceans and Dry land Vegetation, seed-bearing plants, trees that bear fruit this is a problem for Christians who want to believe evolution because evolution says fruit came after animals
- Day 4 (vv. 14-19) Sun Moon Stars and planets – 10 to the 22 Power
- Day 5 (vv. 20-23) Water life - Sea Monsters = Tannin (H) = Ketos (G) Everything that Flies
- Earth bring forth Day 6 (vv. 24-31) Land Animals Adam Eve
- All Vegetarian (1:29-30) v.31 - It was “VERY GOOD”
- REMEMBER – EVERYBODY ADMITS THAT EXODUS IS HISTORICAL… For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. This is the only commandment where a reason is given He wrote this in stone so we wouldn’t get it wrong – and we do SCRIPTURE PREDICTS WHY IT IS AN ISSUE
- “All things are continuing as they were from the beginning of creation” – Uniformitarianism – Charles Lyell They deliberately overlook creation and the flood Deliberately – greek word thelontas – to want; to desire – it is an active choice They want to overlook it, it is a deliberate choice. I don’t want there to be a God because it frees me for my own sexual and political persuits They desire it because it means they have to answer to Him (the word deluge is the greek word kataklyzo where we get the word cataclysm) My Literal Translation: V5 - They desire this to be unknown, that the heavens existed long ago and likewise the earth from water and by water came into existence by the word of the one God, V6 – by whom, the world at that time, water cataclysmically flooded and was utterly destroyed.
- Athiests that wanted us to come from nothing coined the phrase “Spontaneous Generation” Put a pair of dirty underwear in a pot and you get rats… Proven false by Louis Pasteur in 1859 – the same year Darwin published “Origin of the Species” This became a big problem for evolutionists SO- in 1870, “Darwin’s bulldog” Aldus Huxley came up with the term….
- There are things that you have been taught that has been done by slight of hand – not because your teachers were dishonest, but its what was in the textbook We are going to look at some of the foundational research that evolutionists base their assumptions on
- Most of you have probably heard this before…
- In 1953, Stanley Miller did an experiment where he ran a spark through the gasses present on primitive earth and made amino acids thereby proving that the “building blocks” of life could happen from nothing.
- In 1958, Sydney Fox published his experiment where he heated those amino acids, much like they would be in the primative earth, which then combined to formed polymers which he called proteinoids that formed cell structures which he labeled protocells (now called protobionts) which resembled bacteria ANYBODY REMEMBER THAT?
- I ACTUALLY READ THE EXPERIMENTS
- 1- What he did was, He pulled a vacuum on the system, boiled the water and the vapor was run through a spark “lightning”… How long does lighting last for? Experiment was run for a week 2- It then combined with the starting gasses were assumed based on the fact that they are the only ones that would work 3- Closed system that in no way resembles earth (no oxygen could be there or it wouldn’t work) It required a designer Let’s talk more about those amino acids…
- More than 500 AA 22 used in life, 21 in humans Only 5 of the simplest AA formed in the experiment (Recently a guy named Johnson re-analysed the contents and have found others, but in extremely small amounts) OK – but he made AA. There is still a big problem with….
- Called enantiomers All non-biological processes produce both 50:50 (mix is called racemic) How much AA were there?... (When you pass polarized light through a solution containing an isomer, it will change its polarization slightly, either to the left or to the right, depending on which version of the isomer is in solution. If polarization changes to the LEFT, it is a LEVO isomer; if it changes to the RIGHT, it is a DEXTRO isomer.DEXTRO-: Prefix derived from the Latin dexter meaning "on the right side."LEVO-: Prefix derived from the Latin "laevus" meaning "on the left side.“)
- Conc. too dilute, even if only L hand versions, which they were not Later Johnson reanalyzed the samples and found more AA, but it only added .5% OK – so if 2% were AA, what made up the rest of the stuff in the trap?...
- Stanley called them contaminants - what were those? We found out later they were… Many of chemicals found in the trap are deleterious to life They tried to spin that years later saying that those make great molecules to build “precusors of life” from, but in reality they only bring death.
- Had to be in place because if it had re-entered the system, the products would be destroyed After actually looking at the experiment – there is no way this would work in the real world, that is why they had to use the trap In fact I found a great quote that agrees with me on this point…
- Johnson was the guy who reanalyzed the samples of the Miller/Urey experiments in his article in Science
- So Sydney Fox took the results of the Miller/Urey experiment and made proteins right?? WRONG
- Fox melted some AA at 338F for 4 hours… How long does it take to cook a chicken fried steak??? Less than 4 hrs It was done under a layer of oil and CO2 because water would enter the reaction and break down the peptides If you fried a chicken fried steak for four hours what would you pan look like? You would have to scrub that thing like crazy! Turns out, so did He - “Vigorously rubbed” and turned it into a “granular precipitate” (that’s exactly what you would have to do with your pan) CLICK
- Fox thought that if Miller could make AA in his experiments, then he could make peptides – but he didn’t use (and no one else has since either) the vast majority of toxic products
- Bear no Resemblance to anything in Miller’s experiments!!! FLASHBACK Show slide from Miller – Remember this???
- Glycine is by far the most abundant AA in all OOL research Did they use Glycine???
- The hazardous byproducts weren’t used and never are because they screw up the chemistry Solution contained only PURE AMINO ACIDS – can only be done in a lab and cannot exist in nature Still Racemic – 50:50 L:D ASP and GLU used because they react with Dicarboxylic AA easily
- If heated more than 6 hours, everything is destroyed Where on primordial earth is this going to happen???
- 10 microns = 10 micrometers = .01mm The microspheres contained in aqueous suspension between microscope slides can be easily redissolved by merely warming the slide Said to divide – so do soap bubbles Cell membranes aren't protein – they're made of fat – phospholipid bilayer
- Lots of things make microspheres Explosives, used in pharmacology
- Just globules of protein suspended in water Cell membranes aren't protein – they’re made of fat – phospholipid bilayer
- Just globules of protein suspended in water Cell membranes aren't protein – they’re made of fat – phospholipid bilayer So why are these experiments held in high regard
- They don’t want there to be a God. They start with the assumption that there is no God because that would mean that they have someone to answer to Christians try to justify believing in both without knowing the contradictions….
- Christians foolishly say the Bible describes evolution, obviously without ever reading what God says about it
- Speaking of the Man of Lawlessness and judging nations in the End times I believe that delusion is evolution and millions of years
- That is exactly what Chuck Psarris found out
- V25: exchanged the truth for a lie WHAT IS THE LIE? REMEMBER 2 Cor 11:3 But I am afraid as the serpent deceived Eve, your minds will be led astray from the simplicity and purity of devotion to Christ
- Interesting that the same things he says will happen to those under judgment are the very things happening in our country today We need to change this with our children
- In 1859 Darwin Published his book on the theory of evolution
- And all these scientists came out against it: Agassiz, Pasteur, Lord Kelvin, Maxwell, Dawson, Virchow, Fabre, Fleming – ALL STRONG OPPONENTS TO DARWINISM Remember Bill Nye saying that kids who don’t believe in evolution will never amount to anything? These are fathers of their respective scientific fields – all creationists – and they did pretty well for themselves …CLICK I’m going to pull out two Fleming was actually the first president of the “British Evolution Protest Movement” and wrote a book titled “Evolution or Creation?” in which he pointed at the absurdity of organic evolution William Thomson (Lord Kelvin) was responsible for correctly relating molecular motion to temperature – kind of a big deal He had this to say….
- You won’t read that in your science books… Remember the motive of the atheist
- They deliberately overlook creation and the flood
- Ultimately what you choose to believe is up to you Position of Chief priests was originally handed down… Sold by Romans Even so, God still spoke to Caiaphas Caiaphas was told by God what would happen with Jesus, and in spite of his own eternal spiritual peril, chose to reject Him as Messiah to protect his earthly riches We all have a choice to believe God’s truth or man’s truth (the position of high priest was traditionally a life long job, handed down to those in a family, but the Romans made it available to the highest bidder because of the trade that would happen in the temple courts and on the temple mount)
- Jesus says…