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E.	
  Martynov	
  
Bogolyubov	
  Ins3tute	
  for	
  Theore3cal	
  Physics	
  	
  
 Na3onal	
  Academy	
  of	
  Sciences	
  of	
  Ukraine	
  




                                                     7-­‐8	
  November	
  2011	
  Bucharest	
  
Organiza3on	
  of	
  science,	
  scien3fic	
  coopera3on	
  and	
  communica3on	
  
                                                                        Huge	
  interna3onal	
  	
  
                                                                             projects	
  	
  
                                                                       (CERN,	
  JINR,	
  WLCG,	
               Videoconference	
  
                                          XXI	
  Centuty	
                                                          Internet	
  
                                                                      Cosmic	
  projects,	
  ITER)	
                 E-­‐mail	
  




                                                                                                                                          Communica3on	
  tools	
  
                                       Un3l	
  middle	
  of	
  	
      Big	
  na3onal	
  projects	
                  Journals	
  	
  
                                                                        (nuclear	
  projects,	
                  (interna3onal)	
  
                                        XX	
  Century	
  
                                                                                                                   Conferences	
  
                                                                              accelerators)	
                         Phone	
  
T	
  	
  i	
  	
  m	
  	
  e	
  	
  




                                                                            Small	
  groups,	
                       Journals	
  	
  
                                                                             laboratories	
                         (na3onal)	
  

                                                                                 Individuals	
                        LeCers	
  
                                                                                                                      books	
  
                                        Ancient	
  age	
                           	
  (+	
  their	
  
                                                                                       pupils)	
  
                                   11/9/11	
                                 Scien;fic	
  collabora;on	
  	
                             2	
  
Levels	
  of	
  collabora3on	
                                                                 Communica3on	
  tools	
  
                                                                                            Video	
  conference,	
  lectures	
  
                                                                                            (passive,	
  ac;ve)	
  
Tier-­‐0,	
  Interna;onal	
  centers	
  

                                                                                                   Mee3ngs	
  (face	
  to	
  face	
  
                                                                                                   seminars,	
  workshops,	
  
                                                                                                   conferences)	
  



                                                                                                               Papers	
  (ArXiv.org,	
  
Tier-­‐3,	
  Individuals	
  and	
  small	
  groups	
                            0	
                            na;onal	
  and	
  
                                                                                                               Interna;onal	
  Journals,	
  
                                                                                                               electronic	
  and	
  paper	
  
  The	
  task	
  of	
  higher	
  level	
                                                                       master)	
  	
  	
  
  structure	
  is	
  to	
  support	
  all	
  
  groups	
  at	
  lower	
  levels	
  and	
  
  their	
  transforma;on	
  	
  when	
                                                      Personal	
  contacts	
  (visits,	
  phone,	
  
  projects	
  or	
  VO	
  are	
  crea;ng	
                                                  e-­‐mail,	
  skype,	
  …)	
  
  or	
  finishing	
  
     11/9/11	
                                           Scien;fic	
  collabora;on	
  	
                                             3	
  
Communica3on	
  tools	
  (as	
  they	
  are	
  using	
  in	
  Ukraine)	
  


       Personal	
  contacts	
  (visits,	
  phone,	
  e-­‐mail,	
  Skype,	
  …)	
  

             No	
  problems	
  

        Papers	
  (ArXiv.org,	
  na;onal	
  and	
  Interna;onal	
  Journals,	
  electronic	
  and	
  paper	
  master)	
  	
  	
  
                                                                                                                        ArXiv	
  
            Journal	
  online:	
  too	
  expansive	
  
            Colleagues	
  who	
  have	
  free	
  access	
  help	
  us	
  

        Mee3ngs	
  (face	
  to	
  face	
  seminars,	
  workshops,	
  conferences)	
  
          Problem	
  for	
  Ukrainian	
  scien8sts	
  is	
  to	
  have	
  financial	
  
          support	
  (especially	
  for	
  young	
  scien8sts)	
  
          Some%mes	
  it	
  is	
  possible	
  but	
  it	
  is	
  not	
  a	
  regular	
  prac%ce	
  
         Video	
  conference,	
  video	
  lectures,	
  e-­‐learning	
  
           Dream:	
  	
  
           •  all	
  events	
  are	
  networking	
  online;	
  	
  
           •  special	
  web-­‐site	
  gives	
  informa8on	
  	
  
           about	
  all	
  forthcoming	
  events	
                 Enabling	
  Virtual	
  Organiza;ons	
  

   11/9/11	
                                                  Scien;fic	
  collabora;on	
  	
                                 4	
  
Role	
  of	
  the	
  global	
  infrastructure,	
  communica3on	
  projects	
  and	
  
   organiza3ons	
  (Tier-­‐0,	
  Tier-­‐1)	
  is	
  increasing	
  strongly!	
  	
  
   Examples:	
  	
  	
  

                                   Ukraine	
  was	
  involved	
  at	
  the	
  design	
  stage	
  
   EGI	
  	
  
                                                                            Informa;on	
  about	
  	
  
   e-­‐infrastructure	
                                                     Ukraine	
  is	
  almost	
  absent	
  

                                             Ukraine	
  is	
  outside	
  of	
  	
  
   ESFRI	
  	
                               membership	
  
                                               Some	
  Ukrainian	
  ins;tutes	
  	
  
                                               and	
  organiza;ons	
  	
  
   EUREKA	
                                    take	
  part	
  in	
  projects	
  


   WLCG	
  
   …..	
  
11/9/11	
                             Scien;fic	
  collabora;on	
  	
                                                5	
  
Coopera3on	
  of	
  Ukraine	
  with	
  European	
  grid	
  projects	
  
 Coopera3on	
  of	
  Ukrainian	
  scien3sts	
  with	
  European	
  colleagues	
  became	
  more	
  intensive	
  
 since	
  the	
  grid-­‐infrastructure	
  was	
  build.	
  	
  	
  


There	
   was	
   in	
   BITP	
   a	
   need	
   to	
   do	
   our	
   physics	
   and	
   corresponding	
  
tasks	
  with	
  CERN	
  (in	
  par8cular	
  to	
  par8cipate	
  in	
  grid	
  collabora8on	
  
WLCG	
  for	
  high	
  energy	
  physics).	
  

However	
  from	
  the	
  beginning	
  we	
  have	
  realized	
  a	
  high	
  
importance	
  of	
  grid-­‐technology	
  not	
  only	
  for	
  HEP	
  but	
  as	
  well	
  for	
  
many	
  branches	
  of	
  science	
  and	
  generally	
  for	
  society	
  

 Ukrainian	
  grid	
  systema8c	
  building	
  was	
  started	
  	
  in	
  2005	
  due	
  to	
  ini8a8ve	
  of	
  
 physicists	
  from	
  the	
  Bogolyubov	
  Ins8tute	
  for	
  Theore8cal	
  Physics.	
  	
  

   Now	
  the	
  Ukrainian	
  Na3onal	
  Grid	
  have	
  been	
  created.	
  
   Moreover,	
  the	
  State	
  Program	
  for	
  implementa3on	
  of	
  
   grid	
  technologies	
  in	
  Ukraine	
  has	
  been	
  accepted	
  by	
  the	
  
   Government	
  in	
  2009	
  
    11/9/11	
                                           Scien;fic	
  collabora;on	
  	
                               6	
  
Current	
  state	
  of	
  UNG	
  
                                                                                           ILTPE,     Institute for low temperature physics and engineering
                                                                                           ISMA,      Institute of scincilating materials
                                                                                           IRE,       Institute of radiophysics and electronics
                                                                                           KIPT,      Kharkiv institute for physics and technology
                                                                                           RI,        Radioastronimics Institute




                                                                         IAP, Institute of applied physics	
  




ICMP, Institute of condensed matter physics
IPM, Institute of physics and mechanics




   IEP, Institute of electron physics




Resources:	
  CPU	
  cores	
  ~3000,	
  Storages	
  >300TB	
                                                         ТНЕІ, Tavrida humanitarian ecological
                                                                                                                           institute	
  

Capacity	
  of	
  fiber	
  op3c	
  lines	
  between	
  clusters	
  –	
  	
  
300-­‐1000Mbps	
  (end	
  of	
  2011:	
  	
  10Gbps	
  for	
  some	
  sollabora;on	
  	
  
    11/9/11	
                                            Scien;fic	
  c
                                                                       ites)	
  
                                                                                                                                                 7	
  
                                                                                                                      MHI, Marine hydrophysics institute 	
  
Ukrainian	
  Na3onal	
  Grid	
  hierarchical	
  structure	
  	
  
(with	
  elements	
  of	
  central	
  management)	
  

                                  Coordina;ng	
  Commiee	
  of	
  the	
  
                                     Ukrainian	
  Na;onal	
  Grid	
  

                                      Basic	
  Coordina;on	
  Center	
  at	
  BITP	
  
                                          (services	
  are	
  distributed)	
  	
                                      Regional	
  Opera;ng	
  
                                                                                                                             Center	
  
                                                                                                                 (in	
  coopera;on	
  with	
  EGI)	
  
 Cer;fica;on               Monitoring	
  and	
       Center	
  for	
  VO	
                 Training	
  
   Autority	
             registra;on	
  of	
        registra;on	
                         center	
  
                            grid-­‐sites	
  	
  




         Icyb	
  Compu;ng	
          KPI	
  Compu;ng	
                                      Virtual	
  Organiza;ons	
  
                 center	
                   center	
  
                                                                                                                                Grid	
  cites	
  
                                                                                     Grid	
  cites	
  
                                                                                    (with	
  ARC)	
      .	
  .	
  .	
  .	
     (with	
  ARC	
  
                                                                                                                                and	
  gLite)	
  
   11/9/11	
                                          Scien;fic	
  collabora;on	
  	
                                                                8	
  
Network	
  providers	
  
UARNET	
  -­‐	
  Ukrainian	
  Academic	
  Research	
  Network	
  (NASU	
  ins;tutes)	
  
URAN	
  -­‐	
  Ukrainian	
  Research	
  &	
  Academic	
  Network	
  (Educa;onal	
  ins;tutes	
  	
  
         	
         	
        	
        	
       	
        	
        	
  and	
  universi;es)	
  	
  


                  GÉANT	
  




 “The	
  major	
  difference	
  between	
  NRENs	
  in	
  Ukraine	
  and	
  in	
  the	
  Western	
  Europe	
  lies	
  in	
  the	
  
 fact	
  that	
  NRENS	
  are	
  subject	
  to	
  (almost)	
  the	
  same	
  market	
  condi3ons	
  as	
  any	
  other	
  
 enterprise.	
  There	
  are	
  no	
  regula3ons	
  that	
  would	
  put	
  them	
  in	
  a	
  privileged	
  posi3on	
  towards	
  
 serving	
  educa3on	
  and	
  research	
  users.”	
  	
                    More	
  details	
  one	
  can	
  find	
  at	
  	
  
                 	
         	
  Michal	
  Przybylski	
  	
                  hp://www.ceengine.eu/newsleer/issue2/	
  
    11/9/11	
                                       Scien;fic	
  collabora;on	
  	
                                       9	
  
High	
  
                                                                                          Energy	
  
                                                                                          Physics	
  

                                                             Molecular
                                                             and cell
                                                              biology


                                       Astrophysics	
  
                                       Astronomy	
  
                                     Radioastronomy	
  
                                                                                                        Medicine




                Nano-­‐	
  
              technology	
  
                                                                                      Economics	
  



                                                                Engineering	
  
                                                               New	
  materials	
  
                                                                electronics	
  
                                              Earth	
  
     Solid	
  state	
  physics	
             Sciences	
  
                                           Environment	
  
11/9/11	
                                                                                                          10	
  
Interna3onal	
  coopera3on	
  


                                                                                                                            EGI	
  
                                                                       EGEE	
                               European	
  Grid	
  Infrastructure	
  
                      WLCG	
                            Enabling	
  Grids	
  for	
  E-­‐sciencE	
  
                                                                                                            Agreement	
  for	
  technical	
  and	
  
                Worldwide	
  LHC	
  
                Compu3ng	
  Grid	
                                                                            opera3on	
  collabora3on	
  	
  
                                                                                                                  is	
  in	
  a	
  progress	
  
             ALICE	
  physics	
  +	
  grid	
  
             CMS	
  physics	
  +	
  grid

                                                                           2007	
  
                                                 2006	
                                                2007-­‐2011	
  

                 RDIG	
  
     Russian	
  Data	
  Intensive	
  
                 Grid	
                                                                                                               NorduGrid	
  
  Informal	
  rela3ons.	
                                                                                                              Middleware	
  
  Advices,	
  	
  
  help	
  in	
  forma3on	
  of	
  UNG,	
  	
  
                                                                                                           2011	
                      Grid	
  services	
  
  training,	
  seminars	
  and	
                                                                                                      User	
  interfaces	
  
  conferences	
  	
                                              Other	
  projects	
  and	
  VO	
  
                                                                            Earth	
  sciences	
  
                                                                      Astrophysics	
  &	
  astronomy	
  
                                                                             Life	
  sciences	
  
  11/9/11	
                                                                                                                                               11	
  
Collabora3on	
  with	
  NorduGrid	
  

                               Collabora3on	
  Agreement	
  concerning	
  the	
  NorduGrid	
  
                               Collabora3on	
  have	
  been	
  signed	
  on	
  05.05.2011	
  	
  
       Norway	
  
       Sweden	
        Subjects	
  of	
  collabora;on:	
  	
  
       Denmark	
             Middleware	
  
       Finland	
             Grid	
  services	
  
       Hungary	
            User	
  interface	
  
       Slovenia	
  
       Switzerland	
  
       Slovakia	
            NorduGrid	
  Workshop	
  in	
  
       Ukraine	
             Kiev,	
  5-­‐8	
  October	
  2011.	
  
       Lithuania	
  




   11/9/11	
                                 Scien;fic	
  collabora;on	
  	
                         12	
  
Interna3onal	
  Educa3onal	
  Grid	
  




   We	
  have	
  inten3on	
  to	
  extend	
  this	
  infrastructure	
  in	
  Ukraine	
  
11/9/11	
                                     Scien;fic	
  collabora;on	
  	
               13	
  
Problems	
  
         Not	
  sufficient	
  funding	
  of	
  science	
  in	
  Ukraine.	
  	
  
         	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  In	
  accordance	
  with	
  the	
  low	
  on	
  science	
  it	
  must	
  be	
  1.7%	
  of	
  the	
  
         	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  na3onal	
  produce	
  
         	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  but	
  in	
  reality	
  it	
  is	
  only	
  0.4%	
  of	
  the	
  na3onal	
  produce	
  
                 As	
  consequence	
  	
  there	
  is	
  a	
  	
  low	
  salary	
  in	
  science	
  and	
  	
  for	
  budget	
  IT	
  experts.	
  	
  
                 Interns	
  prefer	
  to	
  find	
  posi3on	
  either	
  outside	
  of	
  science	
  or	
  even	
  outside	
  of	
  Ukraine	
  	
  	
  

            A	
  quite	
  complicated	
  procedure	
  (for	
  non	
  EU	
  countries)	
  for	
  obtaining	
  
            grants	
  in	
  Europe	
  	
  
            many	
  Ukrainian	
  scien3sts	
  in	
  fact	
  refuse	
  or	
  ignore	
  this	
  opportunity	
  
         Counter	
  mo3on	
  in	
  the	
  both	
  direc3ons	
  (from	
  Ukraine	
  to	
  global	
  
         European	
  projects	
  and	
  from	
  European	
  projects	
  to	
  Ukraine)	
  must	
  be	
  
         essen3ally	
  intensified	
  	
  	
  




   11/9/11	
                                                  Scien;fic	
  collabora;on	
  	
                                               14	
  
11/9/11	
     Scien;fic	
  collabora;on	
  	
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  • 1. E.  Martynov   Bogolyubov  Ins3tute  for  Theore3cal  Physics     Na3onal  Academy  of  Sciences  of  Ukraine   7-­‐8  November  2011  Bucharest  
  • 2. Organiza3on  of  science,  scien3fic  coopera3on  and  communica3on   Huge  interna3onal     projects     (CERN,  JINR,  WLCG,   Videoconference   XXI  Centuty   Internet   Cosmic  projects,  ITER)   E-­‐mail   Communica3on  tools   Un3l  middle  of     Big  na3onal  projects   Journals     (nuclear  projects,   (interna3onal)   XX  Century   Conferences   accelerators)   Phone   T    i    m    e     Small  groups,   Journals     laboratories   (na3onal)   Individuals   LeCers   books   Ancient  age    (+  their   pupils)   11/9/11   Scien;fic  collabora;on     2  
  • 3. Levels  of  collabora3on   Communica3on  tools   Video  conference,  lectures   (passive,  ac;ve)   Tier-­‐0,  Interna;onal  centers   Mee3ngs  (face  to  face   seminars,  workshops,   conferences)   Papers  (ArXiv.org,   Tier-­‐3,  Individuals  and  small  groups   0   na;onal  and   Interna;onal  Journals,   electronic  and  paper   The  task  of  higher  level   master)       structure  is  to  support  all   groups  at  lower  levels  and   their  transforma;on    when   Personal  contacts  (visits,  phone,   projects  or  VO  are  crea;ng   e-­‐mail,  skype,  …)   or  finishing   11/9/11   Scien;fic  collabora;on     3  
  • 4. Communica3on  tools  (as  they  are  using  in  Ukraine)   Personal  contacts  (visits,  phone,  e-­‐mail,  Skype,  …)   No  problems   Papers  (ArXiv.org,  na;onal  and  Interna;onal  Journals,  electronic  and  paper  master)       ArXiv   Journal  online:  too  expansive   Colleagues  who  have  free  access  help  us   Mee3ngs  (face  to  face  seminars,  workshops,  conferences)   Problem  for  Ukrainian  scien8sts  is  to  have  financial   support  (especially  for  young  scien8sts)   Some%mes  it  is  possible  but  it  is  not  a  regular  prac%ce   Video  conference,  video  lectures,  e-­‐learning   Dream:     •  all  events  are  networking  online;     •  special  web-­‐site  gives  informa8on     about  all  forthcoming  events   Enabling  Virtual  Organiza;ons   11/9/11   Scien;fic  collabora;on     4  
  • 5. Role  of  the  global  infrastructure,  communica3on  projects  and   organiza3ons  (Tier-­‐0,  Tier-­‐1)  is  increasing  strongly!     Examples:       Ukraine  was  involved  at  the  design  stage   EGI     Informa;on  about     e-­‐infrastructure   Ukraine  is  almost  absent   Ukraine  is  outside  of     ESFRI     membership   Some  Ukrainian  ins;tutes     and  organiza;ons     EUREKA   take  part  in  projects   WLCG   …..   11/9/11   Scien;fic  collabora;on     5  
  • 6. Coopera3on  of  Ukraine  with  European  grid  projects   Coopera3on  of  Ukrainian  scien3sts  with  European  colleagues  became  more  intensive   since  the  grid-­‐infrastructure  was  build.       There   was   in   BITP   a   need   to   do   our   physics   and   corresponding   tasks  with  CERN  (in  par8cular  to  par8cipate  in  grid  collabora8on   WLCG  for  high  energy  physics).   However  from  the  beginning  we  have  realized  a  high   importance  of  grid-­‐technology  not  only  for  HEP  but  as  well  for   many  branches  of  science  and  generally  for  society   Ukrainian  grid  systema8c  building  was  started    in  2005  due  to  ini8a8ve  of   physicists  from  the  Bogolyubov  Ins8tute  for  Theore8cal  Physics.     Now  the  Ukrainian  Na3onal  Grid  have  been  created.   Moreover,  the  State  Program  for  implementa3on  of   grid  technologies  in  Ukraine  has  been  accepted  by  the   Government  in  2009   11/9/11   Scien;fic  collabora;on     6  
  • 7. Current  state  of  UNG   ILTPE, Institute for low temperature physics and engineering ISMA, Institute of scincilating materials IRE, Institute of radiophysics and electronics KIPT, Kharkiv institute for physics and technology RI, Radioastronimics Institute IAP, Institute of applied physics   ICMP, Institute of condensed matter physics IPM, Institute of physics and mechanics IEP, Institute of electron physics Resources:  CPU  cores  ~3000,  Storages  >300TB   ТНЕІ, Tavrida humanitarian ecological institute   Capacity  of  fiber  op3c  lines  between  clusters  –     300-­‐1000Mbps  (end  of  2011:    10Gbps  for  some  sollabora;on     11/9/11   Scien;fic  c ites)   7   MHI, Marine hydrophysics institute  
  • 8. Ukrainian  Na3onal  Grid  hierarchical  structure     (with  elements  of  central  management)   Coordina;ng  Commiee  of  the   Ukrainian  Na;onal  Grid   Basic  Coordina;on  Center  at  BITP   (services  are  distributed)     Regional  Opera;ng   Center   (in  coopera;on  with  EGI)   Cer;fica;on Monitoring  and   Center  for  VO   Training   Autority   registra;on  of   registra;on   center   grid-­‐sites     Icyb  Compu;ng   KPI  Compu;ng   Virtual  Organiza;ons   center   center   Grid  cites   Grid  cites   (with  ARC)   .  .  .  .   (with  ARC   and  gLite)   11/9/11   Scien;fic  collabora;on     8  
  • 9. Network  providers   UARNET  -­‐  Ukrainian  Academic  Research  Network  (NASU  ins;tutes)   URAN  -­‐  Ukrainian  Research  &  Academic  Network  (Educa;onal  ins;tutes                  and  universi;es)     GÉANT   “The  major  difference  between  NRENs  in  Ukraine  and  in  the  Western  Europe  lies  in  the   fact  that  NRENS  are  subject  to  (almost)  the  same  market  condi3ons  as  any  other   enterprise.  There  are  no  regula3ons  that  would  put  them  in  a  privileged  posi3on  towards   serving  educa3on  and  research  users.”     More  details  one  can  find  at        Michal  Przybylski     hp://www.ceengine.eu/newsleer/issue2/   11/9/11   Scien;fic  collabora;on     9  
  • 10. High   Energy   Physics   Molecular and cell biology Astrophysics   Astronomy   Radioastronomy   Medicine Nano-­‐   technology   Economics   Engineering   New  materials   electronics   Earth   Solid  state  physics   Sciences   Environment   11/9/11   10  
  • 11. Interna3onal  coopera3on   EGI   EGEE   European  Grid  Infrastructure   WLCG   Enabling  Grids  for  E-­‐sciencE   Agreement  for  technical  and   Worldwide  LHC   Compu3ng  Grid   opera3on  collabora3on     is  in  a  progress   ALICE  physics  +  grid   CMS  physics  +  grid 2007   2006   2007-­‐2011   RDIG   Russian  Data  Intensive   Grid   NorduGrid   Informal  rela3ons.   Middleware   Advices,     help  in  forma3on  of  UNG,     2011   Grid  services   training,  seminars  and   User  interfaces   conferences     Other  projects  and  VO   Earth  sciences   Astrophysics  &  astronomy   Life  sciences   11/9/11   11  
  • 12. Collabora3on  with  NorduGrid   Collabora3on  Agreement  concerning  the  NorduGrid   Collabora3on  have  been  signed  on  05.05.2011     Norway   Sweden   Subjects  of  collabora;on:     Denmark   Middleware   Finland   Grid  services   Hungary   User  interface   Slovenia   Switzerland   Slovakia   NorduGrid  Workshop  in   Ukraine   Kiev,  5-­‐8  October  2011.   Lithuania   11/9/11   Scien;fic  collabora;on     12  
  • 13. Interna3onal  Educa3onal  Grid   We  have  inten3on  to  extend  this  infrastructure  in  Ukraine   11/9/11   Scien;fic  collabora;on     13  
  • 14. Problems   Not  sufficient  funding  of  science  in  Ukraine.              In  accordance  with  the  low  on  science  it  must  be  1.7%  of  the            na3onal  produce            but  in  reality  it  is  only  0.4%  of  the  na3onal  produce   As  consequence    there  is  a    low  salary  in  science  and    for  budget  IT  experts.     Interns  prefer  to  find  posi3on  either  outside  of  science  or  even  outside  of  Ukraine       A  quite  complicated  procedure  (for  non  EU  countries)  for  obtaining   grants  in  Europe     many  Ukrainian  scien3sts  in  fact  refuse  or  ignore  this  opportunity   Counter  mo3on  in  the  both  direc3ons  (from  Ukraine  to  global   European  projects  and  from  European  projects  to  Ukraine)  must  be   essen3ally  intensified       11/9/11   Scien;fic  collabora;on     14  
  • 15. 11/9/11   Scien;fic  collabora;on     15