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Greek Views of
                             Authorship



Wednesday, January 23, 13
imitative
                                vs
                             inspired


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How are invention and
            originality defined in this
                 cultural model?


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Behme:
            Lastly, I would like to address the issue of
            terminology and suggest that historians of
            authorship ethics benefit from being sensitive to
            the vocabulary used in particular periods and by
            particular authors. This allows for the identification
            of relevant precursors to our contemporary
            concepts while avoiding the anachronistic
            imposition of contemporary terms. (208)




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Lo, many years later:



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Solitary



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Originary



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Proprietary



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Sophists



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Lauer:
                  • Kairos
                  • Epistemology




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Originality



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Theresa:

       And here I am also inserting my own expectations for
       authorship, which I then need to be mindful of,
       because here I am assuming that a real author writes
       for non-profit and cares little for fame, as long as he/
       she writes and is heard by the communities he/she
       hopes to reach (but then, what is being "heard," and
       how is this idea of author reception much different
       from Isocrates desire to have worldly immortality and
       fame?) ...as you can see, very complicated in my mind.



Wednesday, January 23, 13
Seth:
          What assumptions about authorship, originality, and
          ownership do both Plato and Isocrates seem to be
          operating upon? In terms of these three terms, what
          can we learn through Plato and Isocrates about the
          cultural/historical differences between Greece circa
          500 BCE and America circa 2012?




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Wednesday, January 23, 13
Phaedrus: 4 sources for
               initiation of discourse



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• inspiration of the muses
               • dissonance between two speeches that
                     prompts a third speech
               • adaptation to the situation (kairos) by
                     knowing the souls of the audience
               • love itself
                                                (Lauer 17)



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and, of course:
                            it’s complicated.



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Ion



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Wednesday, January 23, 13
“interpreters of
                            interpreters” (Ion)



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Wednesday, January 23, 13
poet is set apart through divine association




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Mouthpiece
                              Avatar
                            Messenger




Wednesday, January 23, 13
Seth:
   For Plato, the loadstone represents the gods, the muses, the divine
   origin of authorial inspiration. (That word, inspire, means literally to
   breathe into. Inspiration always comes from somewhere else. It is in
   many ways opposed to the connotations of originality and genius
   often given to it.)  The rings, then, represent the circulation of that
   inspiration, a series of translations and transcriptions and
   interpretations, whose source is not human.




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The Republic



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What shall we do with poets and honeyed Muses?




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“... we have come to see that we
            must not take such poetry seriously as
            a serious thing that lays hold on
            truth, but that he who lends an ear to
            it must be on his guard fearing for the
            polity of his soul and must believe
            what we have said about
            poetry” (21-22).




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Wednesday, January 23, 13
strategies for:

               • analyzing discourse & categorizing its matter
               • exploring using the 28 topics & special
                     topics
               • arts for framing probable rhetorical
                     epistemologies
                                                 (Lauer, 19)


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Muckelbauer



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Greek Views of Authorship Explored

  • 1. Greek Views of Authorship Wednesday, January 23, 13
  • 2. imitative vs inspired Wednesday, January 23, 13
  • 3. How are invention and originality defined in this cultural model? Wednesday, January 23, 13
  • 4. Behme: Lastly, I would like to address the issue of terminology and suggest that historians of authorship ethics benefit from being sensitive to the vocabulary used in particular periods and by particular authors. This allows for the identification of relevant precursors to our contemporary concepts while avoiding the anachronistic imposition of contemporary terms. (208) Wednesday, January 23, 13
  • 6. Lo, many years later: Wednesday, January 23, 13
  • 12. Lauer: • Kairos • Epistemology Wednesday, January 23, 13
  • 15. Theresa: And here I am also inserting my own expectations for authorship, which I then need to be mindful of, because here I am assuming that a real author writes for non-profit and cares little for fame, as long as he/ she writes and is heard by the communities he/she hopes to reach (but then, what is being "heard," and how is this idea of author reception much different from Isocrates desire to have worldly immortality and fame?) ...as you can see, very complicated in my mind. Wednesday, January 23, 13
  • 16. Seth: What assumptions about authorship, originality, and ownership do both Plato and Isocrates seem to be operating upon? In terms of these three terms, what can we learn through Plato and Isocrates about the cultural/historical differences between Greece circa 500 BCE and America circa 2012? Wednesday, January 23, 13
  • 18. Phaedrus: 4 sources for initiation of discourse Wednesday, January 23, 13
  • 19. • inspiration of the muses • dissonance between two speeches that prompts a third speech • adaptation to the situation (kairos) by knowing the souls of the audience • love itself (Lauer 17) Wednesday, January 23, 13
  • 20. and, of course: it’s complicated. Wednesday, January 23, 13
  • 23. “interpreters of interpreters” (Ion) Wednesday, January 23, 13
  • 25. poet is set apart through divine association Wednesday, January 23, 13
  • 26. Mouthpiece Avatar Messenger Wednesday, January 23, 13
  • 27. Seth: For Plato, the loadstone represents the gods, the muses, the divine origin of authorial inspiration. (That word, inspire, means literally to breathe into. Inspiration always comes from somewhere else. It is in many ways opposed to the connotations of originality and genius often given to it.)  The rings, then, represent the circulation of that inspiration, a series of translations and transcriptions and interpretations, whose source is not human. Wednesday, January 23, 13
  • 29. What shall we do with poets and honeyed Muses? Wednesday, January 23, 13
  • 30. “... we have come to see that we must not take such poetry seriously as a serious thing that lays hold on truth, but that he who lends an ear to it must be on his guard fearing for the polity of his soul and must believe what we have said about poetry” (21-22). Wednesday, January 23, 13
  • 32. strategies for: • analyzing discourse & categorizing its matter • exploring using the 28 topics & special topics • arts for framing probable rhetorical epistemologies (Lauer, 19) Wednesday, January 23, 13