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Conversational Marketing
       Braden Kelley – Innovation Excellence



                                     Introduction

                                     What is conversational marketing?

                                     Conversational marketing is relationship marketing for the social media age. Thinking about
                                     your marketing efforts in terms of a conversation changes the approach and better
“To build a brand, you must          integrates social media. Relationships are something that are formed, but conversations are
start a conversation with your       ongoing and evolving and require both sides to participate.
customers. Your customers have
to know that you stand for
something and that they can
count on you to deliver upon
your brand promise.”
                                     How Social Media Fits In

“I have a relationship with the      It seems like I can't get through a day right now without hearing somebody in the media or
IRS, but I don’t have
conversations with them. Value
                                                                                 on the street talking about social media. I think it
comes not from relationships                                                     is great that social media has captured people's
but from conversations. Lifetime                                                 attention, but will having more communication
value only exists if you have an
on‐going, two‐way conversation                                                   channels improve conversational marketing?
with your customers.”

“For companies to be successful,
                                                                                 Only if properly integrated into the conversations
they need to move from                                                           between consumers and companies.
Customer Relationship
Management (CRM) and
Relationship Marketing (RM) to                                                   To do this, social media must be established both
Customer Conversation                                                            as part of your on-going conversational marketing
Management (CCM) and
Conversational Marketing
                                                                                 programs (on-boarding, loyalty, retention, etc.)
(CM).”                                                                           and also integrated into your ad hoc or seasonal
                                                                                 marketing campaigns.
Braden Kelley
Innovation Excellence

Related Quotes:                      The Future and the Past Have Much in Common
“We live in a society which is in
the throes of a technological        I find myself biting my tongue when I hear people talking about how different social media is
revolution… The changes we see       from traditional marketing. Social media is not this different, separate thing. It should be an
each year are probably greater
than those our predecessors
                                     integrated part of any relationship marketing
encountered in a decade or           strategy. Sure there may be nuances that you
perhaps even a working lifetime.     have to consider, but the same could be said
When I started in this industry, a
good ad, promotion pattern, or       for every channel for communicating with
a media strategy could remain        customers.
productive for years. They now
pass into history almost as fast
as the datelines on the              The fact is that no matter how much
magazines and papers we use.”        technology may change, and what channels of
Lester Wunderman (1967)
                                     communication may be introduced, most of the
Founder, Chairman Emeritus           old rules of marketing will always apply. Let's
Wunderman Worldwide                  look at a few of them by examining a few quick
                                     questions that businesses must ask themselves:
Conversational Marketing
       Braden Kelley – Innovation Excellence



Related Quotes:                       1. Where are you likely to find your customers?

                                             If your customers spend time on social networks then you should absolutely be
                                              there.
                                             If your customers are not on social networks then you should allocate your
                                              marketing dollars elsewhere.
“Today you can buy knowledge
by the pound ‐‐ from consultants      Marketing, like any other investment should always come back to your goals and allocating
hawking best practice, from the       your dollars where the return is the best (including any brand investment goals you may
staff you've just hired from your
competitor, and from all those
                                      have).
companies that hope you will
outsource everything. Yet in the      2. Do you know how to leverage the strengths of each of the assets you plan to invest in?
age of revolution it is not
knowledge that produces new
wealth, but insight ‐‐ insight into   For example:
opportunities for discontinuous            Video is good for capturing the imagination
innovation. Discovery is the
journey; insight is the                    Twitter, Facebook, and other discussion media are great places for conversations
destination. You must become               Blogs are good for sharing knowledge
your own seer.”
                                           Web sites can be used as a single-use landing spot to pay off an e-mail or banner, or
Gary Hamel, Author                           as an ongoing destination (but you have to choose this goal up-front)
Leading the Revolution
                                           Applications are good at engaging the consumer with your brand
“Growth and innovation are
driven by customer insights           No one asset is likely to meet your campaign goals by itself. You have to look at each
discovered through customer
observation and conversation.”        individual campaign's goals and choose the strongest assets to combine with the rest of your
                                      conversation marketing for your purposes.
Braden Kelley
Innovation Excellence
                                      3. What is the desired customer action?
“To acquire knowledge, one
must study; but to acquire
wisdom, one must observe.
                                             You must be crystal clear on what this is before beginning any work.
                                             Every marketing asset that you choose to invest in should push the customer
Observe the people. Observe                   towards that desired customer action.
yourself and your friends… We
already know the game – the
real question today is how we         Here is where most online marketing and social media investments fall short. Take for
play it.”
                                      example the integrated campaign that CompareTheMarket.com has embarked upon
“I would strongly argue that this     centered around a spoof on their own name (comparethemeerkat.com). They are doing
is what makes our business                                            radio, tv, print, online, and social around this concept but
model and what we do so
compelling and powerful. It’s                                         they have fallen short on #2 and #3 in one crucial way. They
about observation – insight –                                         created videos of their hilarious television advertisements
linked to knowledge – we know                                         and posted them on http://comparethemeerkat.com, but
and adapt and adapt again – but
without observation all the                                           they neglected to post them in a format that enables visitors
knowledge in the world is                                             to the web site to share them by e-mailing a direct link or by
nothing more than one
dimensional information.”
                                                                      allowing visitors to embed them in their blog and talk about
                                                                      them. They also only flash the CompareTheMarket.com
David Sable                                                           brand briefly in the video rather than ending the video on a
Vice Chairman and COO
Wunderman Worldwide                   clickable link something to the effect of "Would you like to compare prices instead of
                                      meerkats? click here". If they had done these two simple things, traffic to their real web site
                                      would have been orders of magnitude higher.
Conversational Marketing
       Braden Kelley – Innovation Excellence



Resources:                        Conversational Marketing Campaigns
Monitoring Software
http://visibletechnologies.com    So when you are planning the social media portion of your conversational marketing
http://radian6.com                campaign, please keep in mind your marketing fundamentals:
http://techrigy.com
http://trackur.com
http://whostalkin.com                      What are your campaign goals?
http://google.com/alerts
                                           What segments do your customers
Social Media Sites                          naturally collect into?
http://facebook.com                        Which segments will you target for
http://myspace.com
http://home.live.com                        your marketing success?
http://bebo.com                            What message content will best
http://orkut.com
http://hi5.com
                                            resonate with your target customers?
http://twitter.com                         What timing is appropriate for the
http://classmates.com                       delivery of your message?
http://plaxo.com
http://linkedin.com                        How will you measure the success of
http://gaia.com                             your campaign?
http://friendster.com
http://friendsreunited.com
                                           What do you plan to learn from this campaign?
http://ning.com                            How will you leverage these learnings in the future?
http://skyrock.com
http://xing.com
http://yelp.com
http://flickr.com                 Conversational Marketing Programs
http://del.icio.us
http://technorati.com
http://digg.com                   And when you are planning your social media programs as part of your conversational
http://stumbleupon.com            marketing programs, ask yourself these questions:
Idea Management Software
http://brightidea.com                      Do we plan to only monitor what is being said or to engage in conversations?
http://spigit.com
http://imaginitik.com
                                           Do we plan to offer customer service via social media?
http://invention‐machine.com               Where do we want to engage with customers?
http://uservoice.com                       Do we want to provide a platform for conversations?
http://salesforce.com
                                           If we do provide a platform, do we want to act as gatekeepers?
Blogging Software                          Do we want to actively engage in-person with the relevant prolific communicators or
http://blogger.com
http://wordpress.com                        teachers?
http://movabletype.com                     Is engaging customers in conversations a required or optional activity on the part of
http://drupal.com
                                            employees?
http://typo.com
http://download.live.com                   Do we want to create content that can be shared off-site?


Contacts:
                                  Conclusion
Braden Kelley
Co-Founder
Innovation Excellence             To make social media a successful part of your conversational marketing efforts, it is critical
3520 253RD CT SE                  that you keep all of the above in mind. Better planning will help you be clearer in establishing
Issaquah, WA 98029
(206) 349-8931                    your goals, creating your programs, and designing your campaigns. This clarity will ultimately
http://bradenkelley.com
                                  allow you to improve your overall success. So, enjoy those conversations!
http://innovationexcellence.com
http://twitter.com/innovate       Creative Commons Photo Credits (in order) – WebSuccessDiva, SilenceOfNight, NoLifeBeforeCoffee

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  • 2. Conversational Marketing Braden Kelley – Innovation Excellence Related Quotes: 1. Where are you likely to find your customers?  If your customers spend time on social networks then you should absolutely be there.  If your customers are not on social networks then you should allocate your marketing dollars elsewhere. “Today you can buy knowledge by the pound ‐‐ from consultants Marketing, like any other investment should always come back to your goals and allocating hawking best practice, from the your dollars where the return is the best (including any brand investment goals you may staff you've just hired from your competitor, and from all those have). companies that hope you will outsource everything. Yet in the 2. Do you know how to leverage the strengths of each of the assets you plan to invest in? age of revolution it is not knowledge that produces new wealth, but insight ‐‐ insight into For example: opportunities for discontinuous  Video is good for capturing the imagination innovation. Discovery is the journey; insight is the  Twitter, Facebook, and other discussion media are great places for conversations destination. You must become  Blogs are good for sharing knowledge your own seer.”  Web sites can be used as a single-use landing spot to pay off an e-mail or banner, or Gary Hamel, Author as an ongoing destination (but you have to choose this goal up-front) Leading the Revolution  Applications are good at engaging the consumer with your brand “Growth and innovation are driven by customer insights No one asset is likely to meet your campaign goals by itself. You have to look at each discovered through customer observation and conversation.” individual campaign's goals and choose the strongest assets to combine with the rest of your conversation marketing for your purposes. Braden Kelley Innovation Excellence 3. What is the desired customer action? “To acquire knowledge, one must study; but to acquire wisdom, one must observe.  You must be crystal clear on what this is before beginning any work.  Every marketing asset that you choose to invest in should push the customer Observe the people. Observe towards that desired customer action. yourself and your friends… We already know the game – the real question today is how we Here is where most online marketing and social media investments fall short. Take for play it.” example the integrated campaign that CompareTheMarket.com has embarked upon “I would strongly argue that this centered around a spoof on their own name (comparethemeerkat.com). They are doing is what makes our business radio, tv, print, online, and social around this concept but model and what we do so compelling and powerful. It’s they have fallen short on #2 and #3 in one crucial way. They about observation – insight – created videos of their hilarious television advertisements linked to knowledge – we know and posted them on http://comparethemeerkat.com, but and adapt and adapt again – but without observation all the they neglected to post them in a format that enables visitors knowledge in the world is to the web site to share them by e-mailing a direct link or by nothing more than one dimensional information.” allowing visitors to embed them in their blog and talk about them. They also only flash the CompareTheMarket.com David Sable brand briefly in the video rather than ending the video on a Vice Chairman and COO Wunderman Worldwide clickable link something to the effect of "Would you like to compare prices instead of meerkats? click here". If they had done these two simple things, traffic to their real web site would have been orders of magnitude higher.
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