2. UK Cohabitation and Marriage Survey
• A unique nation-wide survey of
marriage, cohabitation and
commitment, commissioned by Seddons in
collaboration with The Marriage Foundation.
• Undertaken on our behalf by OnePoll between
December 2012 and January 2013.
• 3,500 adults polled across 9 regions in England and
Wales.
3. UK-wide Survey
National survey results for our 13 key questions are
cross-referenced by additional data such as:
• Gender
• Region
• Age
• Relationship status
• Employment status, partner's employment status;
• Salary, partner's salary
• Dependents.
4. Demographic
• Covered nine regions of the UK
• 63% female and 37% male. Of these respondents, 48% were already
married, 21% were cohabiting and the remainder were single (17%), in a
relationship (9%), divorced (3%), widowed (1%) or separated (1%).
• Age range: 18-55+
• Some 69% of married respondents had children (between one and four),
compared to 19% of cohabiting respondents and 5% of singletons. Just
over 1% of divorced respondents had children.
5. Questions we wanted to explore:
• Why is the myth of common law marriage
so prevalent?
• Are shared financial commitments
important for a couple?
• Do people plan for them?
• Do they influence marriage decisions?
6. Do you hope to be married one day?
• More than twice the number of people who didn't want to be
married in their lives (23%), did aspire to marry in future
(56%), with both genders of respondents answering almost
identically (Yes: F-58%,M-53%, No: F23%,M-23%). A quarter of
men polled said they weren't sure, compared to a fifth of
women.
• Employment status range, the highest proportion of
respondents by grouping who said they aspired to be married
was by far 'Students' at 73%, with Employed people at 60%
and Homemakers at 40%.
• After the Retired group, the Unemployed group least likely to
want to get married (just 1 in 3).
7. What shows you’re a couple to
family and friends?
Respondents answered:
• 45% - living together;
• 30% - getting married;
• 12% - having their child;
• 9% - buying a house together.
8. If cohabiting, why not get married?
Reasons given for not tying the knot:
a. Cost of the wedding (42%)
b. 25% overall were waiting for their partner to ask them,
c. 20% just hadn't got around to it yet
d. 28% thought marriage wasn't necessary.
e. Around 12% - been put off by other people's divorces.
f. 15% - because they couldn't afford to buy a house together.
g. 11% - didn't like the expectations that being married to their partner
would place on them.
9. What is the greatest display of
commitment in a couple?
a. Having partner’s child.
b. Closely followed by: getting married, buying a house together and
including them in your will .
c. Moving in together and opening a joint bank account , lesser signs of
commitment to a relationship.
d. There was a leap of up to a third in the proportion of people from the age
groups within 18-44, to the age groups within 45-55+, who rated the
highest way of demonstrating commitment within a relationship by
getting married.
e. Buying a house together unanimously popular across all age ranges, and
having a joint bank account together doubled in importance for the age
group 55+, from all other age groups.
10. Markers of Commitment
% rating 10 out of 10 as way of showing commitment within a couple
Cohabiting Married Aged 18-24
Getting married 35 49 41
Moving in together 14 11 13
Buying a house together 30 23 25
Having a baby 51 41 47
Buying a pet together 5 4 6
Opening a joint account 7 11 9
Including them in your will 20 20 20
11. Would you happily have children with your
partner without a pre-,post- or co-nup?
• Split down the middle with 53% saying "Yes" and 47%
saying they wouldn't. Slightly more men than women said
they would be happy to do this (Yes-
M:56%,F52%), compared to 48% of women who said they
wouldn't and 44% of men who said they wouldn't.
• Nearly 60% of 35 to 44-year-olds would be happy to bring
up children this way, but this percentage falls to 44% by
55+.
• Response figures were generally the same between people
who already had children and those who did not.
12. Should couples share finances?
• 82% thought it was important in a relationship, as opposed
to just 18% who said they didn't think it was important.
• Almost all married and cohabiting couples shared most of
their official financial commitments (current
account, mortgage, household bills),
• In terms of savings, married couples who shared were nearly
double the percentage of those who just lived together.
• People who earned more than £50k p/a were significantly
more likely than those on lower salaries to share a current or
savings account with a partner.
13. What finances are you sharing?
• The three biggest commitments were:
a. 49% - a joint bank account ;
b. 41% - a joint mortgage or rental agreement;
c. 40% - household bills.
• Lower priority bills by importance were joint credit cards at
27% and loans for which both partners are responsible
(11%).
• Respondents were twice as likely to share a credit card with
a partner who earned more than £80k p/a as they were
with a partner who earned £25k p/a or less.
14. Have you discussed the fate of shared
finances if you were to part?
• 82% had not discussed how their shared financial obligations
would be dealt with in the event of a break-up. This figure
was equal for men and women. (Yes-F:18%,M:19% -- No-
F:82%,M:81%).
• Likelihood of discussing obligations decreases with age from
18-24 at 21%, down to the last age group of 55+, by which
time this had fallen to just 14%.
• Percentages were similar regardless of whether in a
married, cohabiting or non-cohabiting relationship. They were
also similar regardless of whether they had children or not.
15. Should separating spouses get more of an
ex-partner’s assets than a cohabitee?
• Nearly a third of respondents thought that
married people should be entitled to a greater
share of each other's assets and future income
than cohabitees;
• But: 42% thought this should be the same
whether you are married or cohabiting.
• Around a quarter of people (26%) said they
didn't know how the legal system governing who
gets what on separation should operate.
16. Do divorce courts’ powers to decide how
assets are divided put people off marriage?
• Nearly a third - courts powers on divorce were more likely to
discourage marriage.
• 58% who said it wouldn't make any difference to them, or they didn't
know. Figures for this were roughly the same for responses from men
and women.
• Earners of £50k+ p/a believed that courts ruling on how assets are
split on divorce was more likely to encourage marriage.
• More than three times the number of respondents whose partner was
unemployed thought court judgement on assets would discourage
them from getting married, compared to those whose partner was
employed.
17. Could you learn to relate better?
• 69% said "Yes", with a quarter of those admitting there
were issues they should discuss but don't or can't, a
quarter saying they could learn to handle disagreements
better, and a fifth saying they could learn to understand or
support each other better.
• Figures were broadly the same for both sexes when asked
these questions; except for 35% of men saying they
couldn't learn to relate better, compared to 28% of women
who said they couldn't.
• Interestingly, figures were largely consistent across the
whole spectrum of age groups.
18. Preparation for a Union
• 83% did not access any relationship education or marriage
preparation before or in the first few years of marriage or
cohabitation.
• Divorced respondents = highest proportion among all groups
at 92% with no pre-relationship preparation.
• 25% of students (the highest proportion) said that they had
sought advice.
• Respondents were considerably more likely to have sought
pre-marital/cohabitation advice when earning 50k+ p/a.
19. “We are deeply concerned that so few
people access relationships education at an
early stage in the relationship. It is good
that most people recognise that they can
learn to relate better, and we are
committed to promoting better access to
relationships education.”
Sir Paul Coleridge, The Marriage Foundation
Notes de l'éditeur
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Par 1: marriage is still an aspiration for the greater part of the respondents, not so out of fashion as we had imagined. (The 56% includes those who are divorced or widowed i.e. have been married). ALSO – 66% of cohabitees also answered yes, so it’s also an aspiration for those who may begin their relationship by living together.Par 2/. Employment - I found this a welcome surprise. If I am right in assuming the majority of the student respondents were the younger ones, it demonstrates that marriage is not so “old fashioned” after all.Par 3/ Unemployed:Could this relate to being disillusioned at their state in life, so not asking them at the best time? If struggling to support themselves and perhaps a family, idea of cost of wedding not so appealing.
When asked what best marks the transition from being boyfriend/girlfriend to partners, in front of their peers and parents, 45% said living together and 30% said getting married. Only 12% thought this was best represented by becoming parents or buying a house together (9%).From 18 years up to 55+, the percentage of people who thought getting married best marked the transition increased almost equally with every age group started at 22% and finished at 47%, whereas the percentage of people who thought living together marked the transition best decreased every time by approximately the same amounts but opposite, to marriage, starting with 51% and falling to 31% by the end.Generational differences of opinion.
Par a/. Cost of wedding --- KEY POINT – people are willing to wait until they can have their dream wedding. They could choose to marrycost effectively at a register office but they want the PARTY that goes with it, that seems to be higher in priority.Par b/ Just under 10% of men are waiting to be asked, but a third of female cohabitees are. Marriage is not yet thoroughly modern in this regard!Par f/. Again, an excuse – your housing needs are same whether renting or buying.28 % of cohabitees think marriage is not necessary (28%) and one in five simply haven’t got round to it. Ed Miliband famously said in an interview he was ‘too busy to get married’ but like many people, got round to it in the end.There’s a real risk that in waiting to get married, people build up commitments and obligations, and have children, without the formal commitments or agreements that can protect them.Excuses seem to be found for not quite having got around to marrying but respondents do seem to be able to afford to have children together, a far greater financial commitment for life, aside from the moral and emotional commitment. To my mind this indicates that the reasons given for delay are just excuses because society no longer deems it necessary for a couple to be married in order to have all, or at least some, of the rights, responsibilities and benefits that used to exclusively accompany marriage.So people are delaying weddings – indeed conflating marriage and big expensive weddings, which reminds me of Sir Paul’s comment at the launch of TMF last year. That connection between marriage and a big, expensive wedding, seems to have increased in recent years, perhaps to the stage where it’s less about the solemn vows the couple are making to each other and more about the party.
KEY POINT: The transition to being a couple (moving in together) does not match up with the factors that show signs of commitment. Para a/ Overall here, massive change in social values within one generation or so.Para C/ There were no remarkable discrepancies between the views of men and women on these. THEN MOVE TO NEXT SLIDE
Our survey found that 50% of young people (18-24) see living together as the best marker of the transition to from being boyfriend/girlfriend to being seen as a couple by family and friends. But living together is not rated so highly as a way of showing commitment. The data in this slide shows cohabitees see having a baby as the strongest way of showing commitment.While starting a family can be a deliberate intentional commitment, it isn’t always. One of the Marriage Foundation’s concerns is that people can ‘slide’ into relationships, taking on commitments without ever making a clear decision that they have a future together as a couple. These commitments make it harder to leave unsuitable relationships, and then children arrive within relationships that are inherently fragile. We may wish to reflect on the extent to which greater recognition of the importance of public legally recognised intentional acts of commitment – something that is at the heart of marriage – is vital in securing the prospects of modern marriage.If, then, being seen as a couple is marked by an act (moving in together) which is NOT seen as a particularly strong means of expressing commitment, and having a child is seen by many as a stronger demonstration of commitment than marriage, what does this mean for the shared financial commitments that these couples may have?
Full question: Would you be happy to bring up children in a couple relationship without some legal agreement or rules as to how assets and savings would be shared if the relationship broke down?Par 1/.Perhaps because the women are traditionally, but not exclusively, the homemakers so they want more security for themselves and their children.Par 2/. Perhaps because they have fewer years left to support themselves financially OR because in this age group there are more traditional views – maybe it’s a generational difference again.Although having a child together is seen as a sign of commitment, many relationships outside marriage where there are children still break down. While couples say that they are happy to bring children up without legal agreements or rules about how assets and savings would be shared, this can create problems. While courts can safeguard children’s interests, unmarried partners can be left with very little financial protection as recent case law has demonstrated all too well. Marriage as a commitment brings enforceable obligations – other forms of commitment don’t bring the same level of obligation.
Para 3 – More commitment?Para 4 – open to suggestion of why this is. Maybe we are more relaxed about sharing our money when there is more of it?
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Par 1/. Communication issue again – people tend to ignore or put off difficult issues they are aware should be discussed. SO, THEY SHARE FINANCES, BUT DON’T TALK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS IF RELATIONSHIP ENDS.Par 3/. Implies that the married couples don’t consider it more important to have these conversations, or that they find it just as difficult to discuss the issue as everyone else.The reality is that many of our clients may have entered into shared financial commitments with little thought about the implications if the relationship goes wrong. Many believe in the myth that their interests are protected by so-called common law marriage. Many are ill-equipped to deal with difficulties in their relationships. Many find that the implied commitment of starting a family does not see them through the early years of a relationship when breakdown is most likely.Why is the myth of common law marriage so prevalent?Maybe because it is a defacto marriage. Relationship of couple living together will look the same from outside as that of Mr & Mrs Smith next door who are married; orThey are not talking about it and not taking advice.
Par 2/. So more respondents now believe there should be a level-playing field between the marrieds and cohabitees in terms of entitlement on separation, representing a massive social shift in thinking.Par 3/ They don’t think of the consequences if it goes wrong, they rely on the assumption that they will be protected as a cohabitee. Fingers crossed and hope for the best.
Brings us to the question of prenups and postnups.The full question was:Is the fact that courts can rule on how a divorcing couple’s assets are shared more likely to encourage or discourage marriage? Par 2 – hopefully suggests it’s the marriage which is the priority and not the financial consequences.Par 3 and 4/. Is concern regarding the courts powers therefore related to where money is tight? Where there is less money, people are more worried about how the court would divide it?
RELATIONSHIP EDUCATION PART BEGINS:Still shows much room there is for pre-relationship education all around the country and across the generations.
Church of England run a Marriage Preparation Course, other faiths offer similar.COE course:Session 1 – Communication.Then:CommitmentResolving conflictKeeping love aliveShared goals and values.I know from friends who’ve taken the course, the difference it’s made to their marriages. Friend of mine said – “It doesn’t make it bullet proof, but I do wonder how we would have coped without it”.
TO CONCLUDE READING STATS:The results of our survey demonstrate a clear need for greater communication between couples both pre-marriage and pre-cohabitation about their future financial commitments to each other and what they intend to happen financially in the event of relationship breakdown. I would like to find a way of seizing that opportunity with appropriate advisory bodies to educate couples in the skills needed to give relationships the best chance of success. I’m sure that by working with The Marriage Foundation, we can access such groups to bring those communication skills to couples. This, I believe, is where Seddons with The Marriage Foundation may have the greatest impact as a result of these findings. And it reminds me of a question often asked of me by people when they learn what I do. They want to know - what do I believe makes a marriage most likely to succeed? And from my experience to date through seeing what causes it to go wrong for clients, the key components for success seem to me to be - “communication, counselling and compromises”. {BACK TO SCRIPT – SECOND HALF}