The document raises questions about statements made by the Gourleys regarding delays in obtaining 501(c)3 tax exempt status for their organization, Military with PTSD. It provides evidence that the Gourleys applied for and received two EIN numbers themselves in 2012, contrary to later claims blaming the IRS. It also shows the Gourleys did not apply for 501(c)3 status until May 2014, despite earlier statements about being a pending 501(c)3 since 2012. The document urges readers to carefully examine the information and make an informed decision about the honesty of the Gourleys.
1. The Gourley’s 501(c)3 Tax Exemption “Delay”
It appears there are even more very questionable public statements from
“Military with PTSD” being discovered. Some of you may know that the Gourleys
have been asked many times, by their followers, what had been the great delay in
them receiving their 501(c)3 Federal Tax Exempt Charity status. Their
“explanations” have been somewhat varied, but usually come back around to
blaming the IRS for issuing “dual EINs” (Employer Identification Number), in IRS
error. Please see screenshots provided of some of the Gourley’s public
“explanations” for the 501(c)3 delay and “dual EIN” situation. This first one
provided is from August 2, 2014 and states, “David L because we were one of the
groups that had been targeted in the IRS scandal. When Shawn refused to hand
over our members DD214 all of the sudden we had two EINs….”
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2. An additional statement made by the Gourleys on that same day (August 2, 2014…
screenshot below) says, “Darla Morgan we were literally caught in the midst of the
scandal. They demanded our members DD214s and when Shawn refused they
assigned us 2 EINs and wouldn’t give us our status. We had to fight…”
There are some SERIOUS problems with these above “explanations” publicly
offered by the Gourleys (Military with PTSD), that one might not know were a
problem, unless they had been around awhile and knew of the prior public
comments made by the Gourleys about this same subject. Please follow….
First, would be the recently released public information showing BOTH of the
Gourley’s 2012 EIN confirmation documents, that reveals that BOTH of the EINs
the Gourleys have been referring to, were applied for BY the Gourleys
THEMSELVES (or one of their “agents”), IN 2012. The online EIN application
process provides you an instant/same day copy of your EIN documentation. THIS
appears the reason the Gourleys had “dual EINs”... that THEY purposely APPLIED
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3. for each of them (not IRS error). As additional proof of this, see the screenshot
below of Justin Gourley, on DEC 30, 2012, talking about the “dual EIN” situation
with a Facebook member. Justin states, “No we had to amend the first one and
they issued a second EIN number when we amended to add the INC.” Notice,
there is no mention of IRS demands for “member DD214s” in these 2012
conversations about their already existing TWO EINs (JUSTIN himself, says the
“second EIN” was given when THEY tried to “amend” their EIN, themselves.). Also
notice that Justin’s statements below that say, “Yes 2 eins”, and, “There is a
military with PTSD and a military with PTSD Inc.”, confirm the information on both
2012 EIN documents. This info is doubly supported by the original and amended
Articles of Incorporation just posted by the Gourley’s on their MWPTSD website
(also dated FEB 27, 2012 and MAR 30, 2012).
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4. PLEASE SEE screenshots below of BOTH of the the Gourley’s 2012 EIN
verification documents…. Please note the first has the date of February 24,
2012 and says only “Military with PTSD” as the applying party. The second has the
date of March 20, 2012, and shows the applying party as, “Military with PTSD,
Inc.”, followed by, “Military with PTSD”, and then “%Justin Gourley”. This appears
to fit with Justin’s above statement about trying to “amend” their EINs in 2012
and also with where he says, “There is a military with PTSD and a Military with
PTSD Inc.”…. And also appears as confirmation that the Gourleys had BOTH EIN
copies in their possession already, before DEC 2012.
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6. WHY are all of these documents and screenshots significant?? Looking back at
the first screenshots provided here (from August 2, 2014), you’ll see that the
Gourleys there have NOT admitted that THEY were the ones who were
responsible for their EIN “mix-up”, contrary to their own 2012 comments just
shown above. It actually appears that they may possibly have just made a mistake
in trying to “amend” their EIN situation, and applied for the second 2012 EIN,
hoping that would solve the situation (that’s what their own 2012 words seem to
imply)…. So then, WHY wouldn’t they just admit that?? WHY would they go SO
far as to say all those apparently VERY misleading things to their followers about
being involved in the “IRS scandal”, the IRS “demanding” member’s DD214s, and
even Shawn “refusing” to hand them over?? WHY would they use THOSE things to
try to explain their “dual EIN” issue… again, “They demanded our members
DD214s and when Shawn refused they assigned us 2 EINs...”, and again, “When
Shawn refused to hand over our members DD214 all of the sudden we had 2
EINs…” (They themselves appeared to admit in their comments from 2012, that
there was no, “all of the sudden” about this “dual EIN” situation.)
AND THEN, there is even MORE information about the real IRS DD214 issue that
shows it was not related to all of this….
(1) the real IRS “scandal” surrounding the DD214 request situation didn’t become
public until somewhere around mid-2013 (LONG after the Gourley’s December 30,
2012 admission about the dual EINs already being in their possession AND being
in existence due to their own attempt to “amend”), and….
(2) the “scandal” was ONLY affecting those groups with, 501(c)19 Tax Exempt
status for VETERAN ORGANIZATIONs, NOT those applying for, or granted,
501(c)3 Tax Exempt CHARITY ORGANIZATION status, as the Gourleys/Military
with PTSD had stated they had applied for (Gourleys granted 501(c)3 status JUL
29, 2014). Different statuses, with different rules. PLEASE, LOOK INTO ALL of this.
(Screenshots below of article from the American Legion about the actual IRS
DD214 issue from 2013.) So, according to just THIS information, there would be
NO reason to believe that the IRS would ask for DD214s from Military with PTSD’s
members, as the Gourleys, in August 2014, stated and implied.
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8. Also, finding out that “Military with PTSD” is NOT a 501(c)19 VETERAN
organization brings up at least one more important question….
WHY are the Gourleys (Military with PTSD), on their own website,
“militarywithptsd.com”, now requiring those simply applying for basic
“membership” (not employment) with their organization, to PROVIDE DD214s,
and other very personal documents in order for them to “verify you or your
warrior’s military service, wounded status, and disability.”??? (Screenshot below.)
WHY would they need access to these very PERSONAL private documents, if they
are not even a VETERAN ORGANIZATION??? Are they asking for them because
they think they may need to give them to the IRS at some point…. which they
clearly implied they were unwilling to do in those August 2014 comments
above?? A true Veteran Organization (as defined by the IRS) MAY BE required at
certain times to provide proof that their members are Veterans, or have some
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9. type of Veteran relation, to maintain their 501(c)19 tax exemption status…. but
THAT SHOULD NOT APPLY to the 501(c)3 CHARITY, like “Military with PTSD”.
And, now that all of THAT has been covered… THERE IS MORE information about
the actual “Military with PTSD Inc” 501(c)3 application and filing that has just
come to light directly from the Gourleys (links posted on their Facebook Page and
Webpage documents on OCT 18, 2014). According to the Gourley’s posted IRS
“Form 1023”, they JUST filed this application to become legally Federally “Tax
Exempt” in MAY 2014. PLEASE see screenshot below, box highlighted in red,
showing “Current Tax Year” and note that it shows “MAY 14” (as in 2014) as their
most recent month and year at time of filing.
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10. WHY is this an issue?? Because the Gourleys have claimed numerous times since
early 2012 that they had “filed” for their tax exempt status from the IRS and that
they were allowed to operate as a “pending 501(c)3” until it came through fully.
HOWEVER, THIS document appears to show, that even THAT was not true!! See
screenshots here of just two of the Gourley quotes from the “Military with PTSD”
Page claiming their “pending 501(c)3” status from NOV 23, 2013 and FEB 26,
2014….
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12. Also, See this next screenshot about being a “pending” 501(c)3 organization, that
says you can act as such, “While waiting for the IRS to approve your application…”,
which would appear to indicate that you must have already APPLIED to be able to
say that you are PENDING. (So, then HOW is it they have been claiming, prior to
May 2014, that they are a “pending” 501(c)3???)
And LASTLY (sorry this is so long… it needs to be thorough), the screenshot
below offers clarity to a date by which it would appear the Gourley’s earlier
mentioned “dual EIN” situation HAD finally been fixed, so that they would then be
free to move on with the finalizing of their 501(c)3 status by application (IRS form
1023). In Shawn’s own words, on April 11, 2013, she states to a MWPTSD fan, who
would later become one of her “board” members, “… Everything you and I talked
about helped me get the double EIN cleared up.”
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13. PLEASE look at the information…. Make an educated decision
about the Gourleys and whether or not they are being honest.
Remember, this is only ONE situation with this much obvious
conflicting information and comments from these individuals.
PLEASE KNOW THIS…. Those of us involved in bringing all this to
light are ONLY concerned about the Veterans and their family
members potentially being harmed.
Thank you for taking the time to read this.
Documented: October 19, 2014
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