Interviews
- 1. l;d mqj; Wfoid
iïuqL idlÉPd meje;aùu
Tfí l;d mqj; Wfoid f;dr;=re /ia lr .ekSfï l%u ;=kla fõ' úu¾Ykh" ksÍCIKh
yd ixjdo hkq tajd h' fïjd w;=ßka ixjdoh meyeÈ,s jYfhka u jeo.;a u l%uh fõ' uqK.eiS
^fm!oa.,slj u& ¥rl:kfhka iy ±ka B-fï,a uÕska o th l< yels fõ' ixjdoh" b;d mq¿,a
fyda m%Yak lSmhlg iSud ùug o bv ;sfí' ljr wdldrfhka fõjd" Tn ,shk l;d mqj;g
msúiSfï u`. th hs' idudkH jd¾;dlrejl= yd fyd| jd¾;dlrejl= w;r fjki ms<sìUq jkafka
Tn ;=< ñksiqkg l:d ny lsÍug we;s ymkalu u`.sks'
1' iQodkï ùu Tng fyd| m%Yak keÕSulg uÕ iod fok w;r" Tn .Kka fkdf.k
fkd;ld yeßh hq;a;l= fkdjk njg Tfí f;dr;=re odhlhdg ^md;%lreg& bka ix{d lrkq
we;' Tn i;= ish,a, u lshjkak' úIh fyd|dldrj okakd wh iuÕ l:d nia lrkak' fgdï
frdfikaiaà,a mjiQ mßÈ" zzbia;rï ixjdo yuqjl § fmdÿ Wmldrlhla jkafka úIh ms<sn|
ukd ±kqula ;sîuhs' tu`.ska udOHfõÈhd iy iïNdIlhd w;r iqyo;djla f.dvkefÕhs'ZZ
2' Tfí l:d mqjf;ys Wr .d n,k f;audj l=ula o@ tlS f;audj fï ixjdohg
fld;rï ÿrg WÑ; fõ o@ fï m%Yakj,g Tn ms<s;=re ÿka úg" ta wkqj WÑ; m%Yak ud,djla l,a
;shd ilia lr .kak' tuÕska Tng ksù-iekis,af,a isàug bv ie,fikafka lsisÿ jeo.;a
ldrKhla w;ayeÍ ke;s nj Tn taldka; jYfhka okakd neúks'
3' Tn kÕk m%Yak ueoy;a whqßka hq;a fhÿïj,ska ms<sfh, lr.kak' fï lÓlhd f.a
woyia ;ykug ,la l< hq;= njg Tn tlÕ jkafka keoao@ jYfhka fkdfõ' yudr lsÍu
leu;s wdldrhlg l< yels mßÈ újD; m%Yak kÕkak' zzmerKs fudag¾ r: flfrys Tfí
we,au .ek hula lshkak'ZZ jeks fhÿï w;r" zzTfí jhi lSho@ZZ jeks ksh; ms<s;=re ,nd .;
yels m%Yak iuÕ ñY% lr fhdokak' uQ,sl f;dr;=re ,nd.ekSug ksh; m%Yak Wmfhda.s fõ'
ksoyfia yudr l< yels ms<s;=re ,efnk m%Yak uÕska Tn wfmaCId fkdl< f;dr;=re fyda
yeÕSï m< lsÍug bv ie,fihs'
4' Tn we|-me,| .kafka flfia±hs ;SrKh lrkak' k.rdêm;sjrhd yuq ùug
hkjdg jvd ls%lÜ lS%vlhl= uqK.eiSug hkakg Tn ierfikafka fjkia we÷ï-me,÷ïj,sks'
uf.a iïNdIlhd flfia ieriS isákq we;a ± hs Tfnka u m%Yak lr n,kak' Tfí we÷fï
me,÷fï fkd.e<fmk" Èÿ<k fyda uv iys; fyda ler,sldr fmkqula we; sùu j<lajd .kak'
5' Tfí iïNdIlhd uqK.eiSfï § fï l;dny iïuqL idlÉ-Pdjla fkd j ms<sfj<lg
f.dkq lr.;a kuq;a ñ;%YS,s ixjdohla úh hq;= nj is;d.kak' iagãia g¾l,a mejiq mßÈ"
zzfï .fõIKfha§ uq,§ u ud jgydf.k ;snqfKa idïm%odhslj mj;ajkq ,nk ixjdo-j,ska m,la
fkdjk njhs' m%Yafkda;a;ruh ixjdohla mCIjdÈ ùu je<elaùfï woyila uqÿkam;a lr .ekSug
bjy,a jqj;a" ñksiqka yd .eyekqka úIfhys .fõIKhlg kï jevodhl fkd fõ' th yqfola
ixjdohla yd weyqïlka ^ijka& §ula muKla úh'ZZ
- 2. ixjdoh flfroa§"
)Tfí iïNdIlf.a fk;a foi fhduq ù n,d isákak'
)Tfí mqgqfõ Rcqj jdä ù isákak'
)ms<s;=rla ,efnk ieu úgl u Tfí ysi kud
m%;spdr olajkak'
)mfriaifuka weyqïlka fokak'
)iskd uqiq uqyqKska miqjkak'
6' uq,§ u mqoa.,hd iuÕ iqyo;djla f.dv kÕd .kak' Tfí igyka fmd; fyda
má.;lrKh t<shg .ekSug fmr iq¿ fõ,djla .; lsÍug Tng ´kE úh yels h' fufia uqK
.efyk fudfyd;$fï wÈhr iïuqL idlÉPdfõ ^ixjdofha& b;sß yßh isÿ úh yels wdldrh
ks.ukh flfrkq we;' fofokd u fmdÿfõ we¨ï lrk hula fyda ñ;=frla Tng isákjd o@
7' iïNdIl f.a fofk;a foi n,d isáñka Tyqg-wehg fyd|dldr lka fokak' lshk foa
jgyd.kak' Tfí mqgqfõ fk;a;sfha jdä ù bÈßhg keó isákak' fuh jkdys ±ä we,au yd
idOkSh t<öula ms<sìUq lrk bßhõjls'
8' mqoa.,hd f.a wx. p,kd;aul ni" yeÕSï ksÍCIKh lr igyka lr .kak' tfiau
wej;=ï mej;=ï" we÷ï-me,÷ï" YdÍßl ,CIK ^fmkqu&" lemS fmfkk .;s ,CIK iy wkHhka
iuÕ wej;=ï-mej;=ï o ksÍCIKh lr igyka lr .kak' tuÕska Tfí mdGlhd fj; rpkduh
is;=jula we| bÈßm;a lsÍug;a" jpkfhka fkdmejiQ hula t<sorjqlsÍug;a yels jkq we;'
jgdmsgdfõ fmfk-kakg we;s foaj,a yd Yío mjd ksÍCIKh fldg igyka lr .kak'
9' iïNdIlhd lshk fohg is; fhduq lrkjd úkd Tn B<Õg wykakg hk foa .ek
fkdis;kak' Tng wka;sug ,enqKq ms<s;=r yßhg weiqfKa kï Tfí B<Õ m%Yakh jvd;a fyd|
jkjd we;' úpdrd;aulj ijka fokak' tfia ke; fyd;a iïNdIlg th kej; lshkakehs fyda
meyeÈ,s lrkake hs lshd isákak' lshjqfKa ke;s foa fudkjd ± hs lka fokak' Tfí iïNdIl
hï ud;Dldjla uÕ yßkak jEhï lrkjd o@ ta .ek;a is;kak'
10' ndOd lrkak tmd' È. m%Yak wykak;a tmd' ´kEjg jvd l:d lrkak;a tmd' ixjdoh
mgka .ekSfï § ´kEjg jvd l,ska wNsfhda. lrkak fm,fUkak;a tmd' Tn tys isákafka
woyia Woyiaj,g ijka §ug ñi tajd lshd §ug fkd fõ' tf;l=ÿ jqj;a" Tn hula ms<sn|
t<sorjq l<fyd;a tuÕska iyfhda.hla ,nd .ekSug Wmldrjkjd we;' Tfí is;sú,s fyda
ksÍCIK bÈßm;a lrkak' tfy;a tajd zhka;ñka ,djg biSulaZ úh hq;= h'
11' Tfí ldhsl yd udkisl ú,dihka md,kh lr .kak' Tyq fyda Tyq f.a u; Tn wkqu;
fkdlrkafka h hs Tfí iïNdIlhdg bj jegqK fyd;a ixjdo yuqj ì| jefgkq we;'
iïNdIlyg ^uQ,dY%h& Tng ;u ksfji" ld¾hd,h" lïy," f.Whk wdÈh keröfï
pdßldjlg weßhqï lsÍug ´kE jqjfyd;a th ms<sf.k Tng olakg ,efnk tajd igyka
lr.kak'
12' myiq m%Yakj,ska mgka .kak' Ôjk f;dr;=re fyda isoaêhla ms<sn| ieflúka" Tn
ms<sfh, lr.;a m%Yakdj,sfhka ks;r ks;r úmrï lrkak' zfrda,sx iafgdakaZ mqj;a mf;a ysgmq
l;=jrhl= jk weka;ks o l¾áia mejiq mßÈ" zzuqK.eiS ixjdo meje;aùu È.ska È.g l;d lsÍfï
- 3. fh§uls' tfy;a" iïuqL idlÉPdfõ ^ixjdofha& uÕ fmkaùu Tn w;ska bgq úh hq;= h' Tng
´kE fudkjd±hs ±k.; hq;= Tn" tajd ,nd .ekSug jEhï l< hq;= h'ZZ
13' md;% jkakd ixjdoh fkdis;+ w;lg f.k .sh fyd;a" Tyq -weh hk uÕ Tn hd hq;= h'
tfy;a iïuqL idlÉPdj ^ixjdoh& fufyhjkakd Tn j. u;l ;nd .kak' Tfí b,lalh
imqrd .ekSu ksh;kh lr .ekSu Wfoid wjYH kï tu wêIaGdkfha msysgd isákak' mehlg
miqj yudr lrkak' fyd|u lreKq u;= ù f.k tkafka we;eï úg yudr jQ fudfydf;a§ h' tys
§ iïNdIl ÿka iyfhda.h úIhfhys Tyqg-wehg ia;=;s lrkak' u;= u;af;ys § úh hq;af;a l=ula
± hs u;l we;sj wikak'
14' ksrjoH;dj Tfí b,lalh úh hq;= h' Tfí Wmqgd .ekSu yßhg u ksjerÈ njg j.
n,d .kak' ksjerÈ f,i wl=re úuid fhdod .kak' Tn fkdokakd fohla okakd njla wÕjkak
tmd' Tyq m%ldY l< jeo.;a ldrKd Tyq fjkqfjka iïmsKavkh Tn u lr fokak' ksoiqkla
jYfhka zzTn lS foa ug jegyqKd ± hs wms n,uqZZ hkqfjka mjikak'
15' lreKq ms<sn| ksrjoH;dj úmrï lr ne,Su i|yd miqj l;d lrk nj iïNdIlg
okajkak' ^ta Wmqgd .ekSï ms<sn| j fkdfõ'& tfia l;d l< hq;af;a l;d mqj; ksu lrñka
;sfnk ;rï wjia:dfõ § h' th fojk ixjdo yuqjla fia fhdod .kak' Tng fkdjegyqKq me;s
ms<sn| úmrï lrkak' ke; fyd;a uq,a ixjdo yuqfõ § wdjrKh fkdjQ l:d mqjf;a fldgila
úh hq;= me;s ms<sn| h<s;a úmrï lrkak'
16' l:d mqj; fjkqfjka wjYH u kï yd ta i|yd ld,h ñvx.= l< yels kï ixjdoh
má.; lr .kak' fuh úfYaI fmkqula o@ Tfí iïNdIlhd f.a l:d ú,difha úfYaI fmkqula
;sfí o@ fuh u;fNaod;aul ud;Dldjla o@ ixjdoh flfroa§ má.;lrKhla ^ Recoder&
fmfkkakg ;sîu" ixjdoh fnd| ùula ^nd, ùula& we;s lsÍug fya;=fjhs o@ frfldavrhla
Ndú; lrkakg woyia lrkafka kï" iïNdIl f.ka ta i|yd wkque;sh b,a,d isákak' th
mfilg yrjd ;eìh hq;= jqj;a" fmfkk ;ekl ;eìh hq;= h' fyd| negßj,ska hqla; ukdj ls
%hd;aul jk frfldavrhla fhdod .kakd njg j.n,d.kak' Tfí iqmqreÿ igyka ,shd .ekSug
wdOdrl rel=,la jYfhka muKla th Wmfhda.S lr .kak'
17' ixjdoh zzmá.; ù we;eZZhs is;d.kak' iïNdIlhd tys we;=<;a jQ fldgila bj;a l<
hq;= hhs lshd isáh fyd;a" Tyq $ weh fj; lreKq myod § th ;sfnkakg yeÍug tlÕ
lrjd .kak' th wid¾:l jqj fyd;a" Tn;a iïNdIlhd;a uQ,sl Í;s wjfndaO lr f.k ;sfí ±hs
jgyd .ekSug j. n,d .kak' zzjd¾;d .; fkdúh hq;= h'ZZ hkafkka woyia jkqfha Tng th
Ndú; l< yels kuq;a Bg iïNdIl f.a ku fh§u fkdl< hq;= h hkak o@ fjk;a whl= fj;
t<U ta f;dr;=r u jd¾;d .; lr .ekSfï yelshdj ;sfí o@ ke;fyd;a zzjd¾;d.; fkdl<
hq;= hZZ hkafkka woyia jkqfha Tyq f.a ku Bg iïnkaO fkdl< úg mjd tu f;dr;=re Ndú;
fkdl< yels nj o@ tfia kï ta f;dr;=re ,nd .ekSug fjk;a whl= fj; hd fkdyels nj o@
18' Tfí l:d mqj; Wfoid Tfí iïNdIl f.a Rcq m%ldY Wmqgd ±laùu w;HjYH h' Tn
,shdf.k hk mqoa.,hd lshk foa Tfí mdGlhkg zzwefikakg i,iajhs'ZZ ienúka u isÿ jQ
hula f,dalhd yuqfõ yqfola bÈßm;a lrk jd¾;dlrejd jk Tn úIh uQ,sl j tfia lrkafka
h hk yeÕSu o tajd uÕska we;s flf¾' tfy;a ta Wmqgd .ekSï ishhg ishhla u ksjetÈ ùu
- 4. wjYH h' Wmqgd.;a mdGfha ieu jpkhla u ms<sn| Tng taldka; úYajdihla ke;akï fmr<s
fldud ,l=Kq bj;a fldg tys wka;¾.;h fjk;a jpkj,ska ,shkak' Wmqgd.;a mdGhl
jHdlrK fodaI zzbj;a lsÍugZZ Tng tys§ wjir ;sfí'
19' Wmqgd .ekSfuka iïuqL idlÉPdfõ § iïNdIl fmkakqï lsÍula isÿ jk njg j. n,d
.kak' wka;¾.; lreKq wms%hlr kï" Rcq f,i Wmqgd .ekSï fhdod fkd.kak' f;dr;=r i;H
kï" tfiau ksiel kï ke;fyd;a Wmqgd .ekSu fkdmeyeÈ,s kï th fhdod fkd.kak' Wmqgd
±laùu uÕska l:d mqj; bÈßhg f.k hEug ñi Bg by;ska lshejqKq lreKq kej; lshd mEula
fkdjk ;ekg j.n,d .kak'
20' iïuqL idlÉPd meje;aùu ms<sn| fndfyda úg ,nd fok wjjdoh úfkdaockl lS%vdjl
^fl<shl& fhfokjd jeks h hkak hs' Tng ´kE lrk hula Tjqka i;=j ;sfnkjd' Tjqka th
Tng fokafka keye' zzTjqka ixis|jdZZ" zzTjqka ;=< myiq nj msysgqjdZZ" zzmyiq m%Yak keÕSu
Tiafia wiSre m%Yak lrd fufyhùuhs'Zz ms<s;=rla jYfhka keye neye Ndr .kak tmd" fuhska
meyeÈ,s jkqfha Tng jd¾;d lsÍug yelshdj mj;akd h:d¾:hka lsysmhla u mj;akd nj hs'
fyd| jd¾;dlrefjla tla;rd uÜgulska jd¾;d lrhs' fYa%IaG jd¾;dlrefjla ;j;a uÜgulska
tkï"ZZ kshu h:d¾:hZZ jYfhka y÷kajk ;ekg ióm j jd¾;d lrhs'Zz
21' Tfí iïNdIlhd okakd lerKq" lSug leu;s lreKq yd Tng jd¾;d lsÍug bv fok
lreKq y÷kd .kak' zzjd¾;d l< yels h:d¾:hZZ th hs' md;% jkakd okakd ;j;a h:da¾:hla"
Tng lshkakg leu;s kuq;a th jd¾;d lrkakg bv fkdfo hs' zzfm!oa.,sl h:d¾:hZZ kñka
ye¢kafjkafka fuh hs' iïNdIl okakd ;=kafjks h:d¾:hla o mj;S' tfy;a th Tng
fkdlshkjd muKla fkd j" th jd¾;d lrkjdg t;rï j;a bv fokafka;a ke;' il,úO
ffk;sl yd wdpdr O¾u ud¾. Wmfhda.s lr.ksñka fï zzkshu ienE h:d¾:hZZ wkdjrKh
lsÍug jEhï lr th jd¾;d lrkak' udOHfõoh hkq hï flfkla uqøKh lrkjdg wlue;s
ldrKh hs' bka mßndysr ish,a, m%isoaêh fjkqfjkqhs'
- 'fu;a , d,a ùriQ ß h
- ^fyd|g ,s h k fyd|u js O s h lD;s f hks &
^iïuqL idlÉPd meje;aùu ms<sn| jeäÿr úia;r i|yd fuu f,aLlhdf.a zziïuqL
idlÉPd l,djZZ lD;sh lshjkak'&