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Kyunghyang Shinmun (Major daily newspaper in South Korea -Source), Oct. 21, 2013: Japan‘s
Prime Minister Abe Shinzo, promoting Tokyo as the site for the 2020 Summer Olympics, said to
the International Olympic Committee: “Some may have concerns about Fukushima. Let me
assure you, the situation is under control. It has never done and will never do any damage to
Tokyo.” [...] To [journalist Hirose Takashi], Abe‘s words were a bald-faced lie. And he decided to
make this lie known to the world, especially the world of sports. He has written A Letter to All
Young Athletes Who Dream of Coming to Tokyo in 2020, and to Their Coaches and Parents:
Some Facts You Should Know. [...] to conceal from them the truth about Tokyo today is not
merely unkind; it is criminal. [...]
Excerpts from Hirose’s letter: [...] Inside Fukushima
Daiichi Nuclear Reactors #1 – #3 the pipes (which
had circulated cooling water) are broken, which
caused a meltdown. This means the nuclear fuel
overheated, melted, and continued to melt anything it
touched. Thus it melted through the bottom of the
reactor, and then through the concrete floor of the
building, and sank into the ground. [...] for two and a
half years TEPCO workers have been desperately
pouring water into the reactor, but it is not known
whether the water is actually reaching the melted
fuel. [...] Only the fact that irradiated water is leaking
onto the surface of the ground around the reactor is reported. But deep under the surface the
ground water is also being irradiated, and the ground water flows out to sea and mixes with the
seawater through sea-bottom springs. It is too late to do anything about this. [...] It’s a sad story,
but this is the present situation of Japan and of Tokyo. I had loved the Japanese food and this
land until the Fukushima accident occurred.
See also: Japan Journalist: Plutonium escaped Fukushima reactors as gas, it was a colossal
9,000ºF inside -- Can't be detected with Geiger counter -- Terrible things are looming for the
children, they must be evacuated yet nothing's done... This is a "criminal nation" -- I'm worried
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ground under Fukushima reactors — Irradiated groundwater is flowing
into ocean through sea-bottom springs, it’s too late to do anything
about this (PHOTO)
Sickputer
October 22, 2013 at 9:12 pm Log in to Reply
Nice terminology… "Sea-bottom springs".
Too late is probably right. Not a single leader in the major governing bodies of the world care
to spend trillions on this lost cause. They will ignore it as long as possible, hoping for the
miracle that will never arrive.
Sadness in Japan…
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disaster, there were accounts of several washing
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Prolonged heavy rainfall for Fukushima, and “the
tanks are full” — “Potentially devastating interaction”
with Typhoon Lekima, now a Category 5 (VIDEO)
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from Fukushima reactor is suspected to have been
found — “Even more unexpected” that it’s located
outside main strip of contamination — Need to
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much, much more severe spread of contamination
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typhoons may collide — Francisco to be “unable to
move” due to Lekima, says forecast — High threat of
landslides, flash floods (PHOTO)
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Japan Journalist: Melted nuclear fuel sank into the
ground under Fukushima reactors — Irradiated
groundwater is flowing into ocean through sea-bottom
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Unit 4 SFP = "TEPCO admits that some of the spent fuel is damaged,
characterizing “most” of the fuel to be undamaged. What is not known is to
what extent some of the fuel is damaged or how much fuel is not included in “most”
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It will be between a million years and forever before the are around Fukushima will
be inhabitable. They should evacuated all of Japan, the West Coast of North
America, and parts of Asia.
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behind schedule, it's unclear when evacuees from the area will be able to return. One worker
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or-well
Under what global regime would that evacuation have occurred?
What about the people who didn't want to go?
These evacuation/relocation "should-haves" of numbers like that are not anywhere
near actual reality-based.
It's so easy to say should have.
All of America's nuclear clunkers should be shut down – a much easier task, one would
think, than relocating hundreds of millions of people, yet, it doesn't seem to be going
very well.
To end nuclear, people will have to confront reality.

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J.
Thank you for the common sense observation. It is nearly impossible to
evacuate even the Tokyo metropolitan area, even assuming everyone
were willing. I doubt most would consider it. The country? It's beyond absurd.
As for the author's contention that the fuel is underground: I don't understand how
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quantities of irradiated water in the tanks. Those can't be coming from coriums
cooled deep underground. It makes no sense to me.

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We Not They Finally
SP. I'm on your side regarding evacuation.
J., the lovely "alternatives" that have been chosen over evacuation are
millions of parents lied to about the health of their children, the country's
genome being destroyed with succeeding generations PROGRESSIVELY
WORSE, doctors forced to lie, and public repression of life-and-death
information.
CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS.
It would be helpful if you would re-consider the comment about
evacuation being "beyond absurd." What's beyond CRIMINAL is what
they already HAVE been doing.
Though I'm not a fan of the U.S. response either. Not hardly. It
progresses more slowly here, but we still seem to be headed for a bad
place.
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We Not They Finally
or-well, yes of course it should all be shut down in the U.S. But in
Japan, THEY CAN'T DO THAT. They obviously do not even know how.
It's past the point of no return. All they can really do to save their very lives, is to
flee.
There have been lawsuits brought in Japan to get evacuation of the children that
were thrown out of court. There have also been orders for governors of
prefectures to NOT accept refugees from affected prefectures. Doctors get
dismissed if they mention radiation to patients.
So it's not just about what is hard to do. What already HAS been done is
distressingly inhumane.
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or-well
WNTF, actually, in Japan, they ARE all shut down. Now to keep
them shut down and get them all decommissioned! No restarts!
I agree with whoever said let's use relocation instead of evacuation, as the
later implies a return within the lifetime of an evacuee.
In Japan, there are clearly zones of greater contamination than others that
are not being acknowledged for the health-damaging consequences of
continuing to live there.
You reinforce my point with what you mention in your second-to-last
paragraph.
So correct – it is not just about what is hard to do. The administrative,
political, economic, educational and nuclear-cabal machinations are part of
the reality that must be dealt with.
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anne
Of course, they maybe couldn't have evacuated everyone, But they
could have told everyone that they advise evacuation if they value their
lives. This way, they have just told lies which will kill off everyone. The accident
was bad enough. But to not pass out potassium iodide, and pretend everything is

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all right is criminal. It used to be that genocide and crimes against humanity were
punishable in a court of justice. Where is morality and justice now?
Of course, we know why they would rather everyone will die. If they had advised
evacuation, they couldn't sell the rest of the world on nuclear energy. They would
lose their contracts. Some day their children and grandchildren will hate them. But
then, maybe they don't have any children.
Well, with the ocean dead, the plankton is dead, and we will have less oxygen. I
guess better to die of suffocation than cancer.
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scottyji
Yes…good thinking.
There will always be a trade-off between the economic benefits of
industry – any industry – and human health risks. And the money will usually do
the talking and shout the loudest in such debates. Individuals' lives will be
shortened and lost…"collateral damage" so to speak.
Governments' "interests" – perpetuating themselves and keeping the people on
the consumptive hampster wheel – will rarely be the same as an individual's
interest in maintaining good health and long life.
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scottyji
>To end nuclear, people will have to confront reality.
Au contraire mon frere!
People need to confront their utilities, their governments, and their own life style.
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MichaelV
…These press releases and headlines have served to detract attention away from
the CORE issues…
Now, we're getting somewhere…
Tell us where you THINK the cores are located…
… Tell us what you THINK of putting a mound of dirt under and up to SFP 4
Either THINK…or THWIM, but don't drown us with indecision.
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We Not They Finally
Not really. This seems to be a pretty outspoken brave journalist. He's not in
charge of anything technical, but he is doing a real service informing the
Olympic athletes not to come. So I say, good for him!
I do agree, though, we don't hear the word "corium" much. It's avoidance, evasion and
lies.
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MichaelV
@WNTF
I do agree; it's good investigative journalism and I commend his
bravery.
Sometimes the releases lack substance, but I think we may be getting somewhere

overall.
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weeman
He may very well be right, but we're is the data to back up his claims? Is he privy to
information?
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We Not They Finally
Even the generalities cited are NOT openly done in Japan. I say, just let him
do the best he can. It's a service.
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dosdos
Keep in mind that each of the three coriums is not one single glob in a single
location. Some parts of them are no doubt still above ground, scattered through
pipes, and some have snaked their way below ground, finding cracks and cubby holes and
filling them to solidify, while the rest flowed on by. The coriums are more like a splattering, root
like trails of pockets. It's all over and under the reactor builings.
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razzz
They could at least evacuate women and children from known hot spots around
Japan. That would be the human thing to do. Having doctors lie about patient's
conditions accomplishes what?
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We Not They Finally
Exactly. But a lawsuit to evacuate the children was apparently thrown out of
court without even being tried. It has to be terrifying to just stay and watch
your kids get sicker. And forcing doctors to lie to patients is just abominable.
There are some upset Japanese doctors going to Arnie Gundersen now. We need to
keep an eye on that. The more whistleblowers, the better.
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Phil Shiffley
"Having doctors lie about patient's conditions accomplishes what?"
Well, when this accelerates and the S really HTF, the dwindling supply of safer food,
drink and shelter won't have the stampede of demand from ignorant masses. They're
making sure they have less competition for when push comes to shove.
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rogerthat

Well, we know where most of the fuel rods in reactor 3 went; they ended up
scattered over a 30km radius around the plant. Watch the video of the reactor 3
detonation (actually, there were three blasts at number 3 in very quick succession, one of
which presumably was the spent fuel pool). There may be lots of corium still left, in the
building and in the ground below. No 2 went downwards, which is why that building is still intact
and still very hot (radioactive). So presume most of No 2 is in the ground below. No 1
exploded, and let's assume (because no-one is telling) that half went up and half went down.
No 4 spent fuel pool, which contained the unused reactor 4 core and thousands of spent fuel
rods and is the current bogeyman, is in my opinion mostly already in the atmosphere. The
NRC documents and emails in HatrickPenry's brilliant piece of work of a few weeks ago tell you
all you need to know about number 4. To wit, zirc fire, catastrophe. It was so hot that workers
were evacuated to a half-mile radius, the ground nearby was littered with pieces of fuel rod,
plans to drop water on it ran into the problem that radiation levels above the plant were lethal,
and it was without water for two weeks while debris was removed and the bits of fuel rod were
bulldozed over. Look at the NRC transcripts. Tepco's explanation about what happened reads
like a script for an episode of Dr Who, the Timelord, who travels back in time to change events
and save the world.
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rogerthat
… and that, in my humble, bumbling and uninformed opinion, is why there was and
is no global rush to the rescue; most of the fuel was gone from reactors 1,2,3 and
4 in the first week of the disaster, into the ocean or into the air or on to the surrounding
countryside. So what's the point of telling people the worst has happened, that a few thousand
hiroshimas worth of radiation is coming their way? Can't be fixed, what's still there can't be
stopped, and it doesnt matter anyway, the damage is done. Kan says if the worst had
happened (SFP zirc fire), 50 million people would have had to be evacuated. Gunderson says
if the worst happens, people should evacuate the northern hemisphere. Well, imho, the worst
did happen. Read the transcripts, make up your own mind. Look at what Chuck Casto, the
NRC chief of region three, had to say at the time. Ask yourself why Tepco refuses to make the
video of the 4SFP explosion public, or even to make it available to the NRC. And ask yourself,
if you were the commander in chief, and the NRC told you about a seminal event at SFP4, and
its consequences, what you would ask: ''Can anything be done'' springs to mind. And what
you might then say: ''Make it go away'' springs to mind. If I were busy trying to dig america and
the world out of the GFC, not to mention get re-elected, that's what I would say. So it remains
Tepco's and Japan's problem until this day, and if they say SFP4 is still there, everything's
hunky dory, why argue?
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rogerthat
This issue is easily put to rest by TPTB. All they have to do is tell people the truth,
and answer the growing list of questions about what happened, what is still
happening, and what will continue to happen until the end of time. "No immediate health
effects'' doesn't cut it.
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Mack
Meanwhile, ONE brave woman "filed a protest Wednesday against a decision by
Tokyo prosecutors not to indict former executives of Tokyo Electric Power Co."
The Tokyo District Prosecutor’s Office had decided not to indict any of the accused Tepco
employees in a lawsuit filed by 14,716 people.
http://blogs.wsj.com/japanrealtime/2013/10/18/fukushima-watch-protest-filed-vs-decision-notto-indict-tepco/
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razzz

There is still plenty of melted fuel and pieces of fuel to deal with onsite.
Remember they concreted over the bottom of the man made harbor after Unit 3 blew debris
into it and they bulldozed other debris into the harbor, all radioactive.
Unit 2 didn't blow its roof because a blowout panel blew out first and allow steam and
hydrogen to escape and not build up inside the building. All the other Units had their blowout
panels welded shut because TEPCO didn't want anyone scared if they were ever pictured
open. Unit 2 hadn't been done yet.
Blowout panels are meant to open up ex. during tornadoes to insure the integrity of the units
because parts of the Units are airtight (airlocks) to hold negative pressure to keep any
possible contamination from escaping and be sent through sensors and filters first before
being exhausted outside.
All (3) Units blew down because that is the weak point in this design with control rods being
fed in from the bottom (besides leaky caps and seals). Units 1 & 4 would have survived like 2
if their blowout panels functioned. Not sure if anything would have prevented Unit 3 from its
destruction.
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sangell
In a nation of 125 million some portion will develop genetic mutations that will
propel them to radiological invincibility. Eating radioactive food for example could
enable people to digest previously undigestable protein as they might be able to break apart
foods at the atomic level as their digestive tract fires off radionuclides at cellulose fibers or
even mineral dust.
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ruppert
As long as Japan refuses to be fully honest about what they know happened, it
leaves the rest of the world playing a "Where's Waldo" game about where the
corium is and forces us to waste precious time trying to figure out possible solutions to
mitigate the effects.
Not presenting the facts pretty much shows they feel that nothing can be done. Any sane
country that was seriously wanting to rectify the situation would put all the known facts on the
table when asking for asking for outside help.
They know where the corium is (and isn't) and have just been running out the clock so they
can say "There's nothing we can do". Judging from the lack of action of the rest of the world, I
think they feel the same way and were hoping the outcome would be less than feared.
Many of Japan's people are sacredly connected with their country and many couldn't even
imagine life anywhere else so many will choose to die there. It's nothing short of criminal to not
give the people the facts or lie about what is really happening so they can decide for
themselves.
I think they chose not to evacuate the more vulnerable for fear of a stampede out of the
country by the less connected countrymen.
The whole Olympics farce is beyond surreal. The Olympics committee can't be that stupid.
Maybe they are just playing along as they know there will not be a 2020 Olympics for some
reason.
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scottyji
No government will EVER be "fully honest". C'mon!
Governments' "interests" – perpetuating themselves and keeping the
people on the consumptive hamster wheel – will rarely be the same as an individual's
interest in maintaining good health and long life.
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rogerthat
Thanks Razzz, most informative, that sounds about right to me; i've been following
fukushima from day one, a few hours a day my usual dose ha ha. my guesstimate
half of reactor 1 airborne, sfp1 mostly still there; reactor 2 some airborne, mostly still there in
the ground, sfp2 mostly still there; reactor 3 mostly airborne (80pc?), sfp3 mostly airborne.
sfp4 is the biggie, and how do you tell what's still there if no-one's allowed to look? but my
guess at least 70pc gone. i saw a picture a year or so ago on this site of what looked like
corium flowing out the side of the building about 10 feet above the ground, from a hole that
Tepco later painted out on some doctored pictures. But my point is, add up the airborne cores
and you get roughly 200 tonnes of core ejected, some of which fell to earth in pieces but
intact (not vaporised). Plus a great number of spent fuel rods. So let's say half Fukushima 1 to
4 gone, half still there? I don't know, I'm asking, what sort of estimates are out there?
Everything that's still there, in plant or in the ground or in solution, will eventually end up in the
Pacific some time way in the future. And I am sure that, some time way in the future, all the
radiation in nuclear plants and their spent fuel pools all over the world is going to end up
running loose over a very strange dead planet. There's just no way of avoiding it. US spent
fuel pools are very, very large. How can they possibly be very, very safe?
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razzz
rogerthat: Guessing doesn't help matters. I'm sure somewhere that some
government scientists have estimated how much of the melted cores have
left the site and how much remains but either they are not sure or not saying. 25+
years later, no will state for sure how much of the core was ejected and/or vaporized at
Chernobyl. Expect the same for Daiichi.
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yellowroz
The Washington Post has been fairly (some would say suspiciously) silent on this
matter, but yesterday's story covered most of this "house of horrors" and the slide
show graphic is very helpful – http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/page/world/preventingradioactive-leaks-at-fukushima-daiichi/511/ – though as a schematic is it way neater than IRL.
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Horse
The slide show graphic shows the cooling going around Unit 4. Must not
need it there.
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bobmaschi
Excellent link, Thank you!
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stellarblue1
THE DAY is coming sooner than later when the whole world will have to deal with
this tragedy. I have watched the situation at Da Ichi deteriorate daily for two and a
half years. TEPCO, Japan and the whole world has essentially developed and maintained a
delusional mode about this catastrophe. Now that all the "cats" have been let out of the bag,
trying to put them back in, will prove to be a formidable task, indeed.

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FXofTruth
We have 5 fact that are rock solid –
1. The lies will never end.
2. The Pacific Ocean is in the process of going extinct of
all sea life because it is being abused to cool melted cores
that will never stop wanting to explode.
3. Mankind and Nature are slowly being erased from the Planet.
4. Nothing can stop plutonium once it ignites. Nothing can
make it "go out."
5. TEPCO executives should be on trial for high crimes against
humanity and nature. They should be stripped of their wealth
all their property confiscated and distributed to the
victims of their "profits first" decisions.
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