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National Health Insurance Fund Hungary



             The coordination of social security in Europe

                             Applicable legislation




      Dr. Sándor Hódi
       National Health
   Insurance Fund Hungary


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National Health Insurance Fund Hungary



                                   Outline
           1.   Facts
           2.   Questions and problems concerning applicable
                legislation – Case studies
           3.   Future challenges




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1. Facts – Posting

                                     1. Facts
                                Posting of workers

           Application of Hungarian legislation in case of posting of
                workers:
           -    conditions of Section No. 1 of Art. 12 of BR must be
                fulfilled;
           -    the posting employer carries out substantial activities in
                Hungary:
                     -   25% of its staff is employed in Hungary and
                     -   25% of its total turnover arises from activities
                         pursued in Hungary.
           -    If the employer cannot fulfill the above two criteria, the
                substantial activity is regarded as fulfilled, if the
                employer has an ownership stake of at least 25% in an
                undertaking, which fulfills the above criteria.


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1. Facts – Posting


           Hungarian law is not applicable:

           If the employer:
           - is a company under registration;
           - employs persons in Hungary during the period of posting who are involved only in
                the control and administration of the company, so no effective activity is carried
                out in Hungary;
           - the activity pursued in the Member State of posting is not identical with the
                activity pursued in the Member State of employment;

           If the employed person:
           - does not have an insurance period of at least 30 days
                controversial issue
           - is posted to replace another person;
           - is recruited for the purpose to be sent to another Member State by the undertaking
                in the Member State of employment;
           - had been posted for a period of 12 months or 24 months and a period of at least 60
                days did not expire since the date of expiry of the previous posting;

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1. Facts – Posting


                                 1. Facts
                    Posting of self-employed persons

           Application of Hungarian legislation in case of
             posting of self-employed persons:
           - conditions of Section No. 2 of Art. 12. must be
             fulfilled;
           - no further national criteria determined;

           Interruption of the period of posting:
           - If the posting interrupts for a period less than 2
               months it is regarded to be continuous and Hungarian
               legislation is still applicable.



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1. Facts – Pursuit of activities in two or more
                                Member States

                                   1. Facts
            Pursuit of activities in two or more Member States


           Application of Hungarian legislation, as the law of
             residence (Point a) of Section No. 1 of Art. 13 BR)


           Employed persons:
           - the remuneration arising from the activity pursued in
               Hungary reaches 25% of the total remuneration of the
               employed person or the working hours relating to the
               activity pursued in Hungary reach 25% of the total
               working hours of the employed person.



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1. Facts – Pursuit of activities in two or more
                                Member States


           Self employed persons:
           - the income arising from his activity pursued in Hungary
               reaches 25% of the total income of the self- employed
               person.




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2. Questions and problems concerning applicable
                           legislation – Case No. 1

           Statement of facts: The Hungarian legislation obliges
                people with residence in Hungary and not entitled
                to benefits in kind to pay a monthly contribution in
                amount of 5100 HUF/month. People, who pursue
                an activity in another Member State, whatever they
                are employed or self-employed, apply for an A1
                form for pursuit of activities in two or more
                Member States.

           Decision of the authorities: the application will be
                 rejected.

           Reasoning: The payment of the flat-rate contribution
                entitles only to benefits in kind. Thus, it is not an
                insurance period and does not entitle to cash
                benefits. Only EHIC can be issued, no other forms.

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2. Questions and problems concerning applicable
                            legislation – Case No. 2


           Statement of facts: A Hungarian national with residence
              in Hungary concludes an employment contract with
              an undertaking seated in Cyprus (hereinafter: the
              employer). The work stipulated in the contract is a
              typical employment on board of a vessel at sea, but no
              activity is pursued on the territory of Hungary. The
              remuneration is paid by an undertaking seated in
              another Member State, which is not precisely defined.
              There is no reference to the flag of the vessel.

           Question: Which legislation is applicable to the social
             situation of the employed person?

           Problem: No reference to the flag of the vessel and to the
              Member State, in which the undertaking paying the
              remuneration is seated . Thus, it results more possible
              solutions.



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2. Questions and problems concerning applicable
                            legislation – Case No. 2

           Solution No. 1: Assumed the employed person pursues the
              activity on board of a vessel flying the flag of Cyprus
              and the remuneration is paid by an undertaking seated
              in Cyprus, the employed person is subject to Cyprian
              legislation.

           Reasoning: The employer is seated in Cyprus and the
              employed person pursues the activity on board of a
              vessel flying the flag of an EU Member State.

                     „…an activity as an employed or self-employed
              person normally pursued on board a vessel at sea
              flying the flag of a Member State shall be deemed to
              be an activity pursued in the said Member State…”
              (Point a) of Section No. 3 of Art. 11 of BR)


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2. Questions and problems concerning applicable
                            legislation – Case No. 2

           Solution No. 2: Supposed the employed person pursues the
               activity on board of a vessel flying the flag of an EU Member
               State and is remunerated by an undertaking seated in another
               Member State, the employed person is subject to the
               legislation of the Member State, in which the undertaking
               paying the remuneration has its registered office or place of
               business, if he has his residence in this Member State. The
               only Member State may be Hungary, because the employed
               person has its residence in Hungary.

                       „…a person employed on board a vessel flying a flag
               of a Member State and remunerated for such activity by an
               undertaking or a person whose registered office or place of
               business is in another Member State shall be subject to the
               legislation of the latter Member State if he resides in that
               State…” (Point a) of Section No. 3 of Art. 11 of BR)




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2. Questions and problems concerning applicable
                            legislation – Case No. 2

           Solution No. 3: If the residence of the employed person is
              not in the Member State, in which the undertaking
              paying the remuneration has its registered office, then
              the lex bandi is applicable (the legislation of the
              Member State the flag of which the vessel is flying).




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2. Questions and problems concerning applicable
                           legislation – Case No. 2

           Solution No. 4: Supposed the flag of the vessel is one of
              the Member States still to be subject to Regulation
              1408/71 (Switzerland, Liechtenstein, Norway and
              Iceland), then the lex bandi is applicable.

                  „…a person employed on board a vessel flying the
              flag of a Member State shall be subject to the
              legislation of the Member State…” (Point c) of
              Section 2 of Art. 13 of Regulation 1408/71)




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2. Questions and problems concerning applicable
                             legislation – Case No. 2

           Solution No. 5: If the vessel is flying the flag of a non-
              EEC Member State, then rules of private international
              law are applicable, thus the lex bandi.




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3. Challenges – The cross-border health care
                                      directive

                                 3. Challenges


                     Modification of Regulations 883/2004/EC
                     and 987/2009/EC
           - introduction of the concept of „home base” for flying
           personnel
           - modification of the rules on applicable legislation in case
           of pursuit of activities in two or more Member States;




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National Health Insurance Fund Hungary




             Thank You for Your Attention




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2012 - The coordination of social security in Europe Applicable legislation

  • 1. National Health Insurance Fund Hungary The coordination of social security in Europe Applicable legislation Dr. Sándor Hódi National Health Insurance Fund Hungary 15/11/12 OEP - National Health Insurance Fund Hungary 1
  • 2. National Health Insurance Fund Hungary Outline 1. Facts 2. Questions and problems concerning applicable legislation – Case studies 3. Future challenges 15/11/12 OEP - National Health Insurance Fund Hungary 2
  • 3. 1. Facts – Posting 1. Facts Posting of workers Application of Hungarian legislation in case of posting of workers: - conditions of Section No. 1 of Art. 12 of BR must be fulfilled; - the posting employer carries out substantial activities in Hungary: - 25% of its staff is employed in Hungary and - 25% of its total turnover arises from activities pursued in Hungary. - If the employer cannot fulfill the above two criteria, the substantial activity is regarded as fulfilled, if the employer has an ownership stake of at least 25% in an undertaking, which fulfills the above criteria. 15/11/12 OEP - National Health Insurance Fund Hungary 3
  • 4. 1. Facts – Posting Hungarian law is not applicable: If the employer: - is a company under registration; - employs persons in Hungary during the period of posting who are involved only in the control and administration of the company, so no effective activity is carried out in Hungary; - the activity pursued in the Member State of posting is not identical with the activity pursued in the Member State of employment; If the employed person: - does not have an insurance period of at least 30 days controversial issue - is posted to replace another person; - is recruited for the purpose to be sent to another Member State by the undertaking in the Member State of employment; - had been posted for a period of 12 months or 24 months and a period of at least 60 days did not expire since the date of expiry of the previous posting; 15/11/12 OEP - National Health Insurance Fund Hungary 4
  • 5. 1. Facts – Posting 1. Facts Posting of self-employed persons Application of Hungarian legislation in case of posting of self-employed persons: - conditions of Section No. 2 of Art. 12. must be fulfilled; - no further national criteria determined; Interruption of the period of posting: - If the posting interrupts for a period less than 2 months it is regarded to be continuous and Hungarian legislation is still applicable. 15/11/12 OEP - National Health Insurance Fund Hungary 5
  • 6. 1. Facts – Pursuit of activities in two or more Member States 1. Facts Pursuit of activities in two or more Member States Application of Hungarian legislation, as the law of residence (Point a) of Section No. 1 of Art. 13 BR) Employed persons: - the remuneration arising from the activity pursued in Hungary reaches 25% of the total remuneration of the employed person or the working hours relating to the activity pursued in Hungary reach 25% of the total working hours of the employed person. 15/11/12 OEP - National Health Insurance Fund Hungary 6
  • 7. 1. Facts – Pursuit of activities in two or more Member States Self employed persons: - the income arising from his activity pursued in Hungary reaches 25% of the total income of the self- employed person. 15/11/12 OEP - National Health Insurance Fund Hungary 7
  • 8. 2. Questions and problems concerning applicable legislation – Case No. 1 Statement of facts: The Hungarian legislation obliges people with residence in Hungary and not entitled to benefits in kind to pay a monthly contribution in amount of 5100 HUF/month. People, who pursue an activity in another Member State, whatever they are employed or self-employed, apply for an A1 form for pursuit of activities in two or more Member States. Decision of the authorities: the application will be rejected. Reasoning: The payment of the flat-rate contribution entitles only to benefits in kind. Thus, it is not an insurance period and does not entitle to cash benefits. Only EHIC can be issued, no other forms. 15/11/12 OEP - National Health Insurance Fund Hungary 8
  • 9. 2. Questions and problems concerning applicable legislation – Case No. 2 Statement of facts: A Hungarian national with residence in Hungary concludes an employment contract with an undertaking seated in Cyprus (hereinafter: the employer). The work stipulated in the contract is a typical employment on board of a vessel at sea, but no activity is pursued on the territory of Hungary. The remuneration is paid by an undertaking seated in another Member State, which is not precisely defined. There is no reference to the flag of the vessel. Question: Which legislation is applicable to the social situation of the employed person? Problem: No reference to the flag of the vessel and to the Member State, in which the undertaking paying the remuneration is seated . Thus, it results more possible solutions. 15/11/12 OEP - National Health Insurance Fund Hungary 9
  • 10. 2. Questions and problems concerning applicable legislation – Case No. 2 Solution No. 1: Assumed the employed person pursues the activity on board of a vessel flying the flag of Cyprus and the remuneration is paid by an undertaking seated in Cyprus, the employed person is subject to Cyprian legislation. Reasoning: The employer is seated in Cyprus and the employed person pursues the activity on board of a vessel flying the flag of an EU Member State. „…an activity as an employed or self-employed person normally pursued on board a vessel at sea flying the flag of a Member State shall be deemed to be an activity pursued in the said Member State…” (Point a) of Section No. 3 of Art. 11 of BR) 15/11/12 OEP - National Health Insurance Fund Hungary 10
  • 11. 2. Questions and problems concerning applicable legislation – Case No. 2 Solution No. 2: Supposed the employed person pursues the activity on board of a vessel flying the flag of an EU Member State and is remunerated by an undertaking seated in another Member State, the employed person is subject to the legislation of the Member State, in which the undertaking paying the remuneration has its registered office or place of business, if he has his residence in this Member State. The only Member State may be Hungary, because the employed person has its residence in Hungary. „…a person employed on board a vessel flying a flag of a Member State and remunerated for such activity by an undertaking or a person whose registered office or place of business is in another Member State shall be subject to the legislation of the latter Member State if he resides in that State…” (Point a) of Section No. 3 of Art. 11 of BR) 15/11/12 OEP - National Health Insurance Fund Hungary 11
  • 12. 2. Questions and problems concerning applicable legislation – Case No. 2 Solution No. 3: If the residence of the employed person is not in the Member State, in which the undertaking paying the remuneration has its registered office, then the lex bandi is applicable (the legislation of the Member State the flag of which the vessel is flying). 15/11/12 OEP - National Health Insurance Fund Hungary 12
  • 13. 2. Questions and problems concerning applicable legislation – Case No. 2 Solution No. 4: Supposed the flag of the vessel is one of the Member States still to be subject to Regulation 1408/71 (Switzerland, Liechtenstein, Norway and Iceland), then the lex bandi is applicable. „…a person employed on board a vessel flying the flag of a Member State shall be subject to the legislation of the Member State…” (Point c) of Section 2 of Art. 13 of Regulation 1408/71) 15/11/12 OEP - National Health Insurance Fund Hungary 13
  • 14. 2. Questions and problems concerning applicable legislation – Case No. 2 Solution No. 5: If the vessel is flying the flag of a non- EEC Member State, then rules of private international law are applicable, thus the lex bandi. 15/11/12 OEP - National Health Insurance Fund Hungary 14
  • 15. 3. Challenges – The cross-border health care directive 3. Challenges Modification of Regulations 883/2004/EC and 987/2009/EC - introduction of the concept of „home base” for flying personnel - modification of the rules on applicable legislation in case of pursuit of activities in two or more Member States; 15/11/12 OEP - National Health Insurance Fund Hungary 15
  • 16. National Health Insurance Fund Hungary Thank You for Your Attention 15/11/12 OEP - National Health Insurance Fund Hungary 16