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Gemara Notes p. 53 דף סא עמוד ב
רב כהנא   said: When he lit the fire on his own property and it spread ר '  יהודה : He is  חייב   for things that were hidden רבנן : He is  פטור   for things that were hidden But if he lit the fire on the other’s property Everyone agrees that he pays for everything רבא   said to  רב כהנא :  If this was true, the end of the Mishna should say “The  חכמים   agree that if he lit the fire on the person’s property, he is  חייב   for everything The  חכמים   agree to  ר '  יהודה : If one sets fire to a large tower, he pays for everything inside it, because it is normal for people to leave possessions in houses Rather,  רבא   says: If he lit the fire on the other person’s property ר '  יהודה : He is  חייב   for anything that was hidden inside רבנן : he is  only  חייב   for anything that would normally be kept in the grain When he lit the fire on his own property and it spread ר '  יהודה : He is  חייב   for things that were hidden רבנן : He is  פטור   for things that were hidden
When are the  רבנן   and  רבי יהודה   arguing? But the  רבנן   agree to  רבי יהודה   that… And  רבי יהודה   agrees to the  רבנן   that… If one lit a fire on his own property and it spread and did damage… רבי יהודה : he pays even for hidden objects רבנן : he is  פטור   for hidden objects If he lit it on the  ניזק ‘ s property… They agree that he pays for hidden objects

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Gemara Notes 53

  • 1. Gemara Notes p. 53 דף סא עמוד ב
  • 2. רב כהנא said: When he lit the fire on his own property and it spread ר ' יהודה : He is חייב for things that were hidden רבנן : He is פטור for things that were hidden But if he lit the fire on the other’s property Everyone agrees that he pays for everything רבא said to רב כהנא : If this was true, the end of the Mishna should say “The חכמים agree that if he lit the fire on the person’s property, he is חייב for everything The חכמים agree to ר ' יהודה : If one sets fire to a large tower, he pays for everything inside it, because it is normal for people to leave possessions in houses Rather, רבא says: If he lit the fire on the other person’s property ר ' יהודה : He is חייב for anything that was hidden inside רבנן : he is only חייב for anything that would normally be kept in the grain When he lit the fire on his own property and it spread ר ' יהודה : He is חייב for things that were hidden רבנן : He is פטור for things that were hidden
  • 3. When are the רבנן and רבי יהודה arguing? But the רבנן agree to רבי יהודה that… And רבי יהודה agrees to the רבנן that… If one lit a fire on his own property and it spread and did damage… רבי יהודה : he pays even for hidden objects רבנן : he is פטור for hidden objects If he lit it on the ניזק ‘ s property… They agree that he pays for hidden objects