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DONATING INTENSIVISTS’
R.E.M. SLEEP
alex psirides
@psirides
26th march
2019
TO PALLIATIVE CARE COLLEAGUES
“
First I will define what I conceive medicine
to be. In general terms, it is to do away with
the sufferings of the sick, to lessen the
violence of their diseases, and to refuse
to treat those who are overmastered by
their disease, realising that in such
cases medicine is powerless.
Hippocrates
400 BC
“Most clinicians felt strongly
that end-of-life care should be
part of their core business,
but it appears that this is not
always usual practice.
Outsourcing end-of-life care
to the medical emergency team,
the palliative care team or the
intensive care team appears to
be common practice.”
50% of Australians will die in hospital despite
most wanting to die at home
Risk factors associated with in-hospital death include advanced age,
history of severe organ failure, immunosuppression, abnormal vital
signs & severe electrolyte derangement
Works with
awesome
team
James
Bond
Iron
Man
Crime
Scene
Investigator
Cool
gadgets
Deals with
death
regularly
Mostly
Works
Office
Hours
PALLIATIVE
CARE
Adapted from tweet by
@Anaesthesia_AGB
INTENSIVISTINTENSIVIST
Being healthy means
dying as slowly as possible
6
I think it’s clinicians’ fear.
As my oncologist said,
‘We’re here to keep you
alive.’ When I asked him
some years ago, ‘Look
realistically, what’s my
time frame?’, he didn’t
like that question.
Death is everyone’s
business, it’s our
common lot. It’s not a
medical problem.
Dying isn’t a failure
of medicine: it just is.
PATIENT
DIRECTOR OF
PALLIATIVE CARE
sick person with a
reversible process who
would benefit most
from intensive care
dying person with an
irreversible process
who would benefit most
from palliative care
the rise of the SOD
& the fall of the MOD
Barnett, Lancet 2012
Patients and
doctors are
moving in
opposite
directions
Old Medical Model Current Medical Practice
Single acute pathology Multiple chronic pathologies
Short term conditions
predominate
Long term conditions
predominate
Diagnose, treat, cure
Ameliorate, listen, explain,
advise, console
Survival dependent upon
skills of paramedical,
medical & nursing staff
Survival dependent upon
patient’s lifestyle choices
Smith, BMJ 2015
You	can’t	die	without	
mee0ng	the	MET
6
SUPPORT
THEM, THEIR
FAMILY &
YOUR
COLLEAGUES
WHILE THEY
DIE
YES
Are you
sure?
NO
DO
MEDICAL
STUFF
YES
NO
YES
TELL THEM
then ask them
what they
would like
Go you!
High fives
all round &
go to Pub
NO
YES
NO
‘Everything’
‘Comfort’
Review patient Are they
dying?
MET or ICU
REFERRAL
Are you sure
they’re not just
actually dying?
Did you make
them better?
DO
MEDICAL
STUFF
•DIAGNOSE
•TREAT
•CURE
MAKE A
DECISION
dying doesn’t have a biomarker
CRITICAL CARE CONVEYOR BELT
4
the bad death
•Occurs on bedroom floor or
in an acute hospital bed
•Nurses or doctors present,
not family or friends
•Occurs during or
immediately after a
treatment or procedure that
doesn’t change outcome
•Patient may have been
unaware they were dying
•Monitors & alarms
•Lack of dignity
•Ignorance of cultural/
spiritual needs
•THE DEFAULT
“
To answer your question very directly, you asked
‘Do people die well in this hospital?’

They absolutely do not. People are allowed to
linger for far too long, in far too much pain, and
causing far too much distress to themselves and
their family and the people who care for them…
The current situation, to speak frankly, is
completely unacceptable.
Intensive Care Consultant,
Australian Public Hospital
3
how can we change things?
•encourage palliative care exposure for ICU trainees
•talk to patients about not doing stuff & why
•ask your patients what they want
•ask your hospital to employ more palliative care clinicians
then invite them into your ICU
•always consider ‘is this patient actually dying?’
“Sometimes patients know they are
dying and just hope that
someone actually mentions it at
some point.
Chaplain,
Australian Public Hospital
@psirides
AlliconsfromTheNounProject
Thank you
wellingtonicu.com

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Is Intensive Care becoming an out-of-hours acute palliative care service?

  • 1. DONATING INTENSIVISTS’ R.E.M. SLEEP alex psirides @psirides 26th march 2019 TO PALLIATIVE CARE COLLEAGUES
  • 2. “ First I will define what I conceive medicine to be. In general terms, it is to do away with the sufferings of the sick, to lessen the violence of their diseases, and to refuse to treat those who are overmastered by their disease, realising that in such cases medicine is powerless. Hippocrates 400 BC
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  • 4. “Most clinicians felt strongly that end-of-life care should be part of their core business, but it appears that this is not always usual practice. Outsourcing end-of-life care to the medical emergency team, the palliative care team or the intensive care team appears to be common practice.”
  • 5. 50% of Australians will die in hospital despite most wanting to die at home Risk factors associated with in-hospital death include advanced age, history of severe organ failure, immunosuppression, abnormal vital signs & severe electrolyte derangement
  • 7. Being healthy means dying as slowly as possible
  • 8. 6 I think it’s clinicians’ fear. As my oncologist said, ‘We’re here to keep you alive.’ When I asked him some years ago, ‘Look realistically, what’s my time frame?’, he didn’t like that question. Death is everyone’s business, it’s our common lot. It’s not a medical problem. Dying isn’t a failure of medicine: it just is. PATIENT DIRECTOR OF PALLIATIVE CARE
  • 9. sick person with a reversible process who would benefit most from intensive care dying person with an irreversible process who would benefit most from palliative care
  • 10. the rise of the SOD & the fall of the MOD
  • 11. Barnett, Lancet 2012 Patients and doctors are moving in opposite directions
  • 12. Old Medical Model Current Medical Practice Single acute pathology Multiple chronic pathologies Short term conditions predominate Long term conditions predominate Diagnose, treat, cure Ameliorate, listen, explain, advise, console Survival dependent upon skills of paramedical, medical & nursing staff Survival dependent upon patient’s lifestyle choices Smith, BMJ 2015
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  • 15. 6 SUPPORT THEM, THEIR FAMILY & YOUR COLLEAGUES WHILE THEY DIE YES Are you sure? NO DO MEDICAL STUFF YES NO YES TELL THEM then ask them what they would like Go you! High fives all round & go to Pub NO YES NO ‘Everything’ ‘Comfort’ Review patient Are they dying? MET or ICU REFERRAL Are you sure they’re not just actually dying? Did you make them better?
  • 17. dying doesn’t have a biomarker
  • 19. 4 the bad death •Occurs on bedroom floor or in an acute hospital bed •Nurses or doctors present, not family or friends •Occurs during or immediately after a treatment or procedure that doesn’t change outcome •Patient may have been unaware they were dying •Monitors & alarms •Lack of dignity •Ignorance of cultural/ spiritual needs •THE DEFAULT
  • 20. “ To answer your question very directly, you asked ‘Do people die well in this hospital?’ They absolutely do not. People are allowed to linger for far too long, in far too much pain, and causing far too much distress to themselves and their family and the people who care for them… The current situation, to speak frankly, is completely unacceptable. Intensive Care Consultant, Australian Public Hospital
  • 21. 3 how can we change things? •encourage palliative care exposure for ICU trainees •talk to patients about not doing stuff & why •ask your patients what they want •ask your hospital to employ more palliative care clinicians then invite them into your ICU •always consider ‘is this patient actually dying?’
  • 22. “Sometimes patients know they are dying and just hope that someone actually mentions it at some point. Chaplain, Australian Public Hospital