SlideShare a Scribd company logo
1 of 45
Why don’t ecologists get 
more respect? 
Dawn R. Bazely 
Biology Department, York University, 
Toronto 
Wed 29 Oct 2014, Carolinian Canada Ecoystem Recovery 
Forum, Royal Botanic Gardens, Hamilton, ON, Canada 
http://bit.ly/13muPEZ
“If you want advice on how to save the 
planet don’t walk into an ecology 
department.” 
Hugh Possingham (Ecologist & co-developer of MARXAN software) 
March 2009, Fenner Conference on the Environment, Australia
The ecologists’ framework...
“Today the world’s major unsolved 
challenges all revolve around 
science. By the 2012 election 
cycle, at a time when science is 
influencing every aspect of modern 
life, anti-science views from 
climate-change denial to 
creationism to vaccine refusal have 
become mainstream.” 
Shawn Otto in Fool Me Twice
Why don’t people listen to 
ecologists? 
• The science is too difficult? 
• Ecologists are terrible communicators? 
• We talk about depressing doom & gloom 
scenarios?
Only 18% of Americans have 
actually met a scientist
Council of Canadian Academies 
report: Science Culture: Where 
Canada Stands 2014 
http://www.scienceadvice.ca/en/asse 
ssments/completed/science-culture. 
aspx
Ecologists need help with 
• Understanding: 
• How science feeds into policy… 
• How policy is different from politics 
• We need social scientists!
The policy ecosystem 
Hoogensen et al. 2009 Journal of Human Security.
Policy Defined 
“A policy is typically described as a 
principle or rule to guide decisions and 
achieve rational outcome(s). The term is 
not normally used to denote what is 
actually done, this is normally referred to 
as either procedure or protocol” 
Wikipedia
Human Security 
“freedom from fear, freedom from 
want” 
United Nations 1994 
CAUX Forum
International Polar Year GAPS project 
Gas, Arctic Peoples & Security 
Students: Nora, Paul & Milissa
Conceptualizing Human 
Security
Movement corridors for species
Non-Indigenous Plants in the 
Northwest Territories, Canada 
• Non-indigenous species are already here 
19
Non-Indigenous Plants in the 
Northwest Territories, Canada 
Their numbers decline as we go further 
north 20
Making the case for the 
concept
Interdisciplinary collaborations 
• Are not all equal 
• science academics + NGOs + 
government bureaucrats (multiple 
stakeholder groups) 
• ≠ 
• collaborations between science 
academics and different kinds of 
academics from the social sciences and 
humanities
Uncomfortable & not for 
everyone! 
• Not all academics share the same goals 
• e.g. Political Ecologists offer a critique that 
includes the “science agenda” and ecologists
Benefits of interdisciplinary 
collaborations are still unclear 
• Science of Team Science research asks IF 
& HOW collaboration generates novel, 
innovative, transdisciplinary solutions 
• Previously, there’s been little rigorous 
assessment
My world for 7 years! 
Drolet, D. 2014. Meet 5 academics who have switched disciplines 
mid-career. University Affairs, February 12. (that’s me…)
Bringing it back to Southern 
Ontario Forests
Forests in Southern Ontario
Trillium 
Tanentzap et al. 2010 Forest Ecology & Management
How deer alter forests
RONDEAU 2009 
31 
Rondeau Provincial Park post-years of deer 
herd reductions: politically unpopular but 
evidence-based management
Don’t hide from media
Ecology’s contribution… 
• … to the broader collaborative, 
interdisciplinary table? 
• IMO, kick-ass flow charts
Knowledge as a nutrient
For increasing resilience 
35
Dr. Carlos Nobre, Brazil IPCC
“get a meeting with the minister” 
I explained to Donna 
Cansfield (Minister of 
Natural Resources) in 
2009 that science was 
being swept aside and 
that forest health, as 
assumed under various 
acts (eg ORM) was 
declining via lack of action
Participate beyond science eg. 
Ontario’s Human-Wildlife Conflict 
Advisory Group 
• Provides advice and support to the 
implementation of the “Strategy for 
Preventing and Managing Human- 
Wildlife Conflicts in Ontario” and 
“Strategy for Preventing and Managing 
Human-Deer Conflicts in Southern 
Ontario””. 
• notes from first meeting June 2009
Engage in the Science-Policy 
Interface
Write text books!
Why get out of our comfort zone?
Acknowledgements 
• Norwegian Research Council, for Leiv 
Eiriksson Mobility Fund support. 
• International Polar Year, Government of 
Canada 2006-11. 
• Harvard Forest, Harvard University, for a 
Charles Bullard Fellowship 2011-12 
• For opportunities to get outside of the 
science box into the science-policy-politics 
space

More Related Content

Similar to Carolinian canada rbg oct 2014

Inter-disciplinarity and securing global biodiversity: breaking down the barr...
Inter-disciplinarity and securing global biodiversity: breaking down the barr...Inter-disciplinarity and securing global biodiversity: breaking down the barr...
Inter-disciplinarity and securing global biodiversity: breaking down the barr...
CIFOR-ICRAF
 
Susan Schneegans, UNESCO Natural Sciences Sector - PCST2012
Susan Schneegans, UNESCO Natural Sciences Sector - PCST2012Susan Schneegans, UNESCO Natural Sciences Sector - PCST2012
Susan Schneegans, UNESCO Natural Sciences Sector - PCST2012
UNESCO Venice Office
 
COP 15: What is the Impact on Malaysia and Southeast Asia?
COP 15: What is the Impact on Malaysia and Southeast Asia? COP 15: What is the Impact on Malaysia and Southeast Asia?
COP 15: What is the Impact on Malaysia and Southeast Asia?
Myron Shekelle
 
Oxford climate forum_programme_autumn_2014
Oxford climate forum_programme_autumn_2014Oxford climate forum_programme_autumn_2014
Oxford climate forum_programme_autumn_2014
Dr Lendy Spires
 

Similar to Carolinian canada rbg oct 2014 (20)

Inter-disciplinarity and securing global biodiversity: breaking down the barr...
Inter-disciplinarity and securing global biodiversity: breaking down the barr...Inter-disciplinarity and securing global biodiversity: breaking down the barr...
Inter-disciplinarity and securing global biodiversity: breaking down the barr...
 
Susan Schneegans, UNESCO Natural Sciences Sector - PCST2012
Susan Schneegans, UNESCO Natural Sciences Sector - PCST2012Susan Schneegans, UNESCO Natural Sciences Sector - PCST2012
Susan Schneegans, UNESCO Natural Sciences Sector - PCST2012
 
1.1 Environmental value systems
1.1 Environmental value systems1.1 Environmental value systems
1.1 Environmental value systems
 
Lecture 1: Global Environmental Issues
Lecture 1: Global Environmental IssuesLecture 1: Global Environmental Issues
Lecture 1: Global Environmental Issues
 
Invaders, Security, Climate Change: Can we get movement on wicked problems?
Invaders, Security, Climate Change: Can we get movement on wicked problems?Invaders, Security, Climate Change: Can we get movement on wicked problems?
Invaders, Security, Climate Change: Can we get movement on wicked problems?
 
Knowledge Exchange programmes in Science
Knowledge Exchange programmes in Science Knowledge Exchange programmes in Science
Knowledge Exchange programmes in Science
 
Unit 1 - introduction to environmental studies.pdf
Unit 1 - introduction to environmental studies.pdfUnit 1 - introduction to environmental studies.pdf
Unit 1 - introduction to environmental studies.pdf
 
KNOWLEDGE DEVELOPMENT FOR AGROECOLOGY MOVEMENT: FROM SCIENCE TO POLICY
KNOWLEDGE DEVELOPMENT FOR AGROECOLOGY MOVEMENT: FROM SCIENCE TO POLICYKNOWLEDGE DEVELOPMENT FOR AGROECOLOGY MOVEMENT: FROM SCIENCE TO POLICY
KNOWLEDGE DEVELOPMENT FOR AGROECOLOGY MOVEMENT: FROM SCIENCE TO POLICY
 
COP 15: What is the Impact on Malaysia and Southeast Asia?
COP 15: What is the Impact on Malaysia and Southeast Asia? COP 15: What is the Impact on Malaysia and Southeast Asia?
COP 15: What is the Impact on Malaysia and Southeast Asia?
 
Chapt01lecture 1226882446589031-9
Chapt01lecture 1226882446589031-9Chapt01lecture 1226882446589031-9
Chapt01lecture 1226882446589031-9
 
The Areas Of Our Expertise
The Areas Of Our ExpertiseThe Areas Of Our Expertise
The Areas Of Our Expertise
 
Science & Technology Communication
Science & Technology CommunicationScience & Technology Communication
Science & Technology Communication
 
The role of RDE and CCRSPI - Michael Robinson
The role of RDE and CCRSPI - Michael RobinsonThe role of RDE and CCRSPI - Michael Robinson
The role of RDE and CCRSPI - Michael Robinson
 
Now for the science bit - concentrate!
Now for the science bit - concentrate!Now for the science bit - concentrate!
Now for the science bit - concentrate!
 
Mercy for Earth,
Mercy for Earth, Mercy for Earth,
Mercy for Earth,
 
Animal Studies: how to bring activism into academia
Animal Studies: how to bring activism into academiaAnimal Studies: how to bring activism into academia
Animal Studies: how to bring activism into academia
 
BSA Climate Change Launch Event Welcome by Elizabeth Shove
BSA Climate Change Launch Event Welcome by Elizabeth ShoveBSA Climate Change Launch Event Welcome by Elizabeth Shove
BSA Climate Change Launch Event Welcome by Elizabeth Shove
 
Communication for Wildlife Conservation
Communication for Wildlife ConservationCommunication for Wildlife Conservation
Communication for Wildlife Conservation
 
Creating curiosity and inspiring inquiry
Creating curiosity and inspiring inquiryCreating curiosity and inspiring inquiry
Creating curiosity and inspiring inquiry
 
Oxford climate forum_programme_autumn_2014
Oxford climate forum_programme_autumn_2014Oxford climate forum_programme_autumn_2014
Oxford climate forum_programme_autumn_2014
 

More from Dawn Bazely

Inch by inch, row by row: some botanical information to help your garden grow
Inch by inch, row by row: some botanical information to help your garden growInch by inch, row by row: some botanical information to help your garden grow
Inch by inch, row by row: some botanical information to help your garden grow
Dawn Bazely
 
My SWEEET 2016 deck: How Kate Clancy and colleagues' PLOS study and the USA's...
My SWEEET 2016 deck: How Kate Clancy and colleagues' PLOS study and the USA's...My SWEEET 2016 deck: How Kate Clancy and colleagues' PLOS study and the USA's...
My SWEEET 2016 deck: How Kate Clancy and colleagues' PLOS study and the USA's...
Dawn Bazely
 
Doing citizen science in sensational salt marshes
Doing citizen science in sensational salt marshesDoing citizen science in sensational salt marshes
Doing citizen science in sensational salt marshes
Dawn Bazely
 

More from Dawn Bazely (14)

Writing Women Back into the History of STEM (typos fixed)
Writing Women Back into the History of STEM (typos fixed)Writing Women Back into the History of STEM (typos fixed)
Writing Women Back into the History of STEM (typos fixed)
 
Writing Women Back Into the History of STEM
Writing Women Back Into the History of STEMWriting Women Back Into the History of STEM
Writing Women Back Into the History of STEM
 
Tweeting your Science to Policymakers for CSEE 2018 annual conference
Tweeting your Science to Policymakers for CSEE 2018 annual conferenceTweeting your Science to Policymakers for CSEE 2018 annual conference
Tweeting your Science to Policymakers for CSEE 2018 annual conference
 
Updated: My experience with tackling ongoing barriers faced by Women in STEM ...
Updated: My experience with tackling ongoing barriers faced by Women in STEM ...Updated: My experience with tackling ongoing barriers faced by Women in STEM ...
Updated: My experience with tackling ongoing barriers faced by Women in STEM ...
 
My experience with tackling ongoing barriers faced by Women in STEM in Canada
My experience with tackling ongoing barriers faced by Women in STEM in CanadaMy experience with tackling ongoing barriers faced by Women in STEM in Canada
My experience with tackling ongoing barriers faced by Women in STEM in Canada
 
Inch by inch, row by row: some botanical information to help your garden grow
Inch by inch, row by row: some botanical information to help your garden growInch by inch, row by row: some botanical information to help your garden grow
Inch by inch, row by row: some botanical information to help your garden grow
 
Doing Science Communication with Social Media
Doing Science Communication with Social MediaDoing Science Communication with Social Media
Doing Science Communication with Social Media
 
Overcoming Confirmation Bias en route to becoming an Active Bystander in Supp...
Overcoming Confirmation Bias en route to becoming an Active Bystander in Supp...Overcoming Confirmation Bias en route to becoming an Active Bystander in Supp...
Overcoming Confirmation Bias en route to becoming an Active Bystander in Supp...
 
Playing the Research Game: Bouncing Back from Rejection and Disappointment
Playing the Research Game: Bouncing Back from Rejection and DisappointmentPlaying the Research Game: Bouncing Back from Rejection and Disappointment
Playing the Research Game: Bouncing Back from Rejection and Disappointment
 
What is Ethical Behaviour in Science Research?
What is Ethical Behaviour in Science Research? What is Ethical Behaviour in Science Research?
What is Ethical Behaviour in Science Research?
 
My SWEEET 2016 deck: How Kate Clancy and colleagues' PLOS study and the USA's...
My SWEEET 2016 deck: How Kate Clancy and colleagues' PLOS study and the USA's...My SWEEET 2016 deck: How Kate Clancy and colleagues' PLOS study and the USA's...
My SWEEET 2016 deck: How Kate Clancy and colleagues' PLOS study and the USA's...
 
Doing citizen science in sensational salt marshes
Doing citizen science in sensational salt marshesDoing citizen science in sensational salt marshes
Doing citizen science in sensational salt marshes
 
What is habitat recovery? How should we measure it?
What is habitat recovery? How should we measure it?What is habitat recovery? How should we measure it?
What is habitat recovery? How should we measure it?
 
Mentorship event ca gbc
Mentorship event ca gbcMentorship event ca gbc
Mentorship event ca gbc
 

Recently uploaded

Disentangling the origin of chemical differences using GHOST
Disentangling the origin of chemical differences using GHOSTDisentangling the origin of chemical differences using GHOST
Disentangling the origin of chemical differences using GHOST
Sérgio Sacani
 
Asymmetry in the atmosphere of the ultra-hot Jupiter WASP-76 b
Asymmetry in the atmosphere of the ultra-hot Jupiter WASP-76 bAsymmetry in the atmosphere of the ultra-hot Jupiter WASP-76 b
Asymmetry in the atmosphere of the ultra-hot Jupiter WASP-76 b
Sérgio Sacani
 
Pests of mustard_Identification_Management_Dr.UPR.pdf
Pests of mustard_Identification_Management_Dr.UPR.pdfPests of mustard_Identification_Management_Dr.UPR.pdf
Pests of mustard_Identification_Management_Dr.UPR.pdf
PirithiRaju
 
Hubble Asteroid Hunter III. Physical properties of newly found asteroids
Hubble Asteroid Hunter III. Physical properties of newly found asteroidsHubble Asteroid Hunter III. Physical properties of newly found asteroids
Hubble Asteroid Hunter III. Physical properties of newly found asteroids
Sérgio Sacani
 

Recently uploaded (20)

Nanoparticles synthesis and characterization​ ​
Nanoparticles synthesis and characterization​  ​Nanoparticles synthesis and characterization​  ​
Nanoparticles synthesis and characterization​ ​
 
Chemistry 4th semester series (krishna).pdf
Chemistry 4th semester series (krishna).pdfChemistry 4th semester series (krishna).pdf
Chemistry 4th semester series (krishna).pdf
 
9654467111 Call Girls In Raj Nagar Delhi Short 1500 Night 6000
9654467111 Call Girls In Raj Nagar Delhi Short 1500 Night 60009654467111 Call Girls In Raj Nagar Delhi Short 1500 Night 6000
9654467111 Call Girls In Raj Nagar Delhi Short 1500 Night 6000
 
CELL -Structural and Functional unit of life.pdf
CELL -Structural and Functional unit of life.pdfCELL -Structural and Functional unit of life.pdf
CELL -Structural and Functional unit of life.pdf
 
TEST BANK For Radiologic Science for Technologists, 12th Edition by Stewart C...
TEST BANK For Radiologic Science for Technologists, 12th Edition by Stewart C...TEST BANK For Radiologic Science for Technologists, 12th Edition by Stewart C...
TEST BANK For Radiologic Science for Technologists, 12th Edition by Stewart C...
 
Disentangling the origin of chemical differences using GHOST
Disentangling the origin of chemical differences using GHOSTDisentangling the origin of chemical differences using GHOST
Disentangling the origin of chemical differences using GHOST
 
Asymmetry in the atmosphere of the ultra-hot Jupiter WASP-76 b
Asymmetry in the atmosphere of the ultra-hot Jupiter WASP-76 bAsymmetry in the atmosphere of the ultra-hot Jupiter WASP-76 b
Asymmetry in the atmosphere of the ultra-hot Jupiter WASP-76 b
 
Botany 4th semester series (krishna).pdf
Botany 4th semester series (krishna).pdfBotany 4th semester series (krishna).pdf
Botany 4th semester series (krishna).pdf
 
Green chemistry and Sustainable development.pptx
Green chemistry  and Sustainable development.pptxGreen chemistry  and Sustainable development.pptx
Green chemistry and Sustainable development.pptx
 
Stunning ➥8448380779▻ Call Girls In Panchshil Enclave Delhi NCR
Stunning ➥8448380779▻ Call Girls In Panchshil Enclave Delhi NCRStunning ➥8448380779▻ Call Girls In Panchshil Enclave Delhi NCR
Stunning ➥8448380779▻ Call Girls In Panchshil Enclave Delhi NCR
 
GBSN - Microbiology (Unit 2)
GBSN - Microbiology (Unit 2)GBSN - Microbiology (Unit 2)
GBSN - Microbiology (Unit 2)
 
Animal Communication- Auditory and Visual.pptx
Animal Communication- Auditory and Visual.pptxAnimal Communication- Auditory and Visual.pptx
Animal Communication- Auditory and Visual.pptx
 
Hire 💕 9907093804 Hooghly Call Girls Service Call Girls Agency
Hire 💕 9907093804 Hooghly Call Girls Service Call Girls AgencyHire 💕 9907093804 Hooghly Call Girls Service Call Girls Agency
Hire 💕 9907093804 Hooghly Call Girls Service Call Girls Agency
 
Chromatin Structure | EUCHROMATIN | HETEROCHROMATIN
Chromatin Structure | EUCHROMATIN | HETEROCHROMATINChromatin Structure | EUCHROMATIN | HETEROCHROMATIN
Chromatin Structure | EUCHROMATIN | HETEROCHROMATIN
 
Pests of mustard_Identification_Management_Dr.UPR.pdf
Pests of mustard_Identification_Management_Dr.UPR.pdfPests of mustard_Identification_Management_Dr.UPR.pdf
Pests of mustard_Identification_Management_Dr.UPR.pdf
 
Zoology 4th semester series (krishna).pdf
Zoology 4th semester series (krishna).pdfZoology 4th semester series (krishna).pdf
Zoology 4th semester series (krishna).pdf
 
Nightside clouds and disequilibrium chemistry on the hot Jupiter WASP-43b
Nightside clouds and disequilibrium chemistry on the hot Jupiter WASP-43bNightside clouds and disequilibrium chemistry on the hot Jupiter WASP-43b
Nightside clouds and disequilibrium chemistry on the hot Jupiter WASP-43b
 
Hubble Asteroid Hunter III. Physical properties of newly found asteroids
Hubble Asteroid Hunter III. Physical properties of newly found asteroidsHubble Asteroid Hunter III. Physical properties of newly found asteroids
Hubble Asteroid Hunter III. Physical properties of newly found asteroids
 
Raman spectroscopy.pptx M Pharm, M Sc, Advanced Spectral Analysis
Raman spectroscopy.pptx M Pharm, M Sc, Advanced Spectral AnalysisRaman spectroscopy.pptx M Pharm, M Sc, Advanced Spectral Analysis
Raman spectroscopy.pptx M Pharm, M Sc, Advanced Spectral Analysis
 
Pulmonary drug delivery system M.pharm -2nd sem P'ceutics
Pulmonary drug delivery system M.pharm -2nd sem P'ceuticsPulmonary drug delivery system M.pharm -2nd sem P'ceutics
Pulmonary drug delivery system M.pharm -2nd sem P'ceutics
 

Carolinian canada rbg oct 2014

  • 1. Why don’t ecologists get more respect? Dawn R. Bazely Biology Department, York University, Toronto Wed 29 Oct 2014, Carolinian Canada Ecoystem Recovery Forum, Royal Botanic Gardens, Hamilton, ON, Canada http://bit.ly/13muPEZ
  • 2. “If you want advice on how to save the planet don’t walk into an ecology department.” Hugh Possingham (Ecologist & co-developer of MARXAN software) March 2009, Fenner Conference on the Environment, Australia
  • 4.
  • 5. “Today the world’s major unsolved challenges all revolve around science. By the 2012 election cycle, at a time when science is influencing every aspect of modern life, anti-science views from climate-change denial to creationism to vaccine refusal have become mainstream.” Shawn Otto in Fool Me Twice
  • 6. Why don’t people listen to ecologists? • The science is too difficult? • Ecologists are terrible communicators? • We talk about depressing doom & gloom scenarios?
  • 7. Only 18% of Americans have actually met a scientist
  • 8.
  • 9. Council of Canadian Academies report: Science Culture: Where Canada Stands 2014 http://www.scienceadvice.ca/en/asse ssments/completed/science-culture. aspx
  • 10.
  • 11. Ecologists need help with • Understanding: • How science feeds into policy… • How policy is different from politics • We need social scientists!
  • 12. The policy ecosystem Hoogensen et al. 2009 Journal of Human Security.
  • 13.
  • 14. Policy Defined “A policy is typically described as a principle or rule to guide decisions and achieve rational outcome(s). The term is not normally used to denote what is actually done, this is normally referred to as either procedure or protocol” Wikipedia
  • 15. Human Security “freedom from fear, freedom from want” United Nations 1994 CAUX Forum
  • 16. International Polar Year GAPS project Gas, Arctic Peoples & Security Students: Nora, Paul & Milissa
  • 19. Non-Indigenous Plants in the Northwest Territories, Canada • Non-indigenous species are already here 19
  • 20. Non-Indigenous Plants in the Northwest Territories, Canada Their numbers decline as we go further north 20
  • 21. Making the case for the concept
  • 22. Interdisciplinary collaborations • Are not all equal • science academics + NGOs + government bureaucrats (multiple stakeholder groups) • ≠ • collaborations between science academics and different kinds of academics from the social sciences and humanities
  • 23. Uncomfortable & not for everyone! • Not all academics share the same goals • e.g. Political Ecologists offer a critique that includes the “science agenda” and ecologists
  • 24. Benefits of interdisciplinary collaborations are still unclear • Science of Team Science research asks IF & HOW collaboration generates novel, innovative, transdisciplinary solutions • Previously, there’s been little rigorous assessment
  • 25. My world for 7 years! Drolet, D. 2014. Meet 5 academics who have switched disciplines mid-career. University Affairs, February 12. (that’s me…)
  • 26. Bringing it back to Southern Ontario Forests
  • 28.
  • 29. Trillium Tanentzap et al. 2010 Forest Ecology & Management
  • 30. How deer alter forests
  • 31. RONDEAU 2009 31 Rondeau Provincial Park post-years of deer herd reductions: politically unpopular but evidence-based management
  • 33. Ecology’s contribution… • … to the broader collaborative, interdisciplinary table? • IMO, kick-ass flow charts
  • 34. Knowledge as a nutrient
  • 36.
  • 37. Dr. Carlos Nobre, Brazil IPCC
  • 38. “get a meeting with the minister” I explained to Donna Cansfield (Minister of Natural Resources) in 2009 that science was being swept aside and that forest health, as assumed under various acts (eg ORM) was declining via lack of action
  • 39. Participate beyond science eg. Ontario’s Human-Wildlife Conflict Advisory Group • Provides advice and support to the implementation of the “Strategy for Preventing and Managing Human- Wildlife Conflicts in Ontario” and “Strategy for Preventing and Managing Human-Deer Conflicts in Southern Ontario””. • notes from first meeting June 2009
  • 40. Engage in the Science-Policy Interface
  • 42. Why get out of our comfort zone?
  • 43.
  • 44.
  • 45. Acknowledgements • Norwegian Research Council, for Leiv Eiriksson Mobility Fund support. • International Polar Year, Government of Canada 2006-11. • Harvard Forest, Harvard University, for a Charles Bullard Fellowship 2011-12 • For opportunities to get outside of the science box into the science-policy-politics space