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WordPress or Drupal (or Both)
A Framework for Client CMS Decisions
Pantheon.io 2
Who Are We?
Drew Gorton
Director of Agency
and Community
Outreach, Pantheon
Gene Bernier
CTO, Cheeky
Monkey ...
Pantheon.io 3
Topics
● Cheeky Monkey: Agency Perspective
● WordPress + Drupal: Why?
● Practical Guidance
● Challenges of D...
Cheeky Monkey - Agency
Perspective
Gene + Cheeky Monkey
Helping people find their
problems and solving them
with technology
● Gene: path to CTO
● Cheeky Monk...
Evolution of the Monkey
How We Got Here
● Started: WordPress
● Then Drupal + some WordPress
● Then almost all Drupal
● The...
WordPress + Drupal: Why?
Different Mental Models
Metaphors for Non Geeks
● WordPress ≈ Transformer
● Drupal ≈ Lego
● WordPress ≈ Modular home
● Dru...
Strengths
Drupal + WordPress = Better
9
● Provide more solutions
● Stop saying ‘No’ to good
clients
● Focus on building re...
Moving Between Both
WordPress for Drupal people
● No Views (!)
● Good plugins are often
Freemium
● Overriding is easier in...
Moving Between Both
Drupal for WordPress people
● Views (!)
● Modules are NOT solutions
● Markup and PHP in different
plac...
WordPress or Drupal?
Can You Tell a WordPress
site from a Drupal site?
Don’t judge a book by it’s cover
Can you tell the difference?
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14
15
16
17
18
19
20
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Can You Tell a WordPress
site from a Drupal site?
Don’t judge a book by it’s cover
● It shouldn’t matter what
platform you...
Practical Guidance
WordPress or Drupal?
Hold up, ask a better question!
● Better questions = Better results
● First question != Drupal or
Wor...
When We Use Them
WordPress or Drupal?
● WordPress
■ To hit lower budgets
■ If they just need a brochureware site
■ When th...
Challenges of Doing Both
Cross-Training Our Team
Challenges We Faced
● How? Force :)
● Hire Drupal/WordPress
Developers to flesh out the
team
● Foc...
Cross-Training Our Team
Pushback
● Drupal to WordPress:
Fought back
● WordPress to Drupal:
Easier path
● Resolve by servin...
Gray Zone
WordPress and Drupal Overlap…
and that’s Ok
● Same site != same investment
on either platform
● Examples we’ve d...
Pantheon Benefits
Pantheon + Drupal +
WordPress
Even Better Together
● Shared Best-Practices
Workflows
● Easy Team Management
● Scalability
...
Questions?
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WordPress and Drupal are powerful open source tools. Many agencies specialize in one or the other, but being able to effectively use both can be a tremendous strategic benefit. In this webinar we’ll discuss how to deploy both WordPress and Drupal effectively as an agency.

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WP or Drupal (or both): A Framework for Client CMS Decisions

  1. 1. WordPress or Drupal (or Both) A Framework for Client CMS Decisions
  2. 2. Pantheon.io 2 Who Are We? Drew Gorton Director of Agency and Community Outreach, Pantheon Gene Bernier CTO, Cheeky Monkey Media
  3. 3. Pantheon.io 3 Topics ● Cheeky Monkey: Agency Perspective ● WordPress + Drupal: Why? ● Practical Guidance ● Challenges of Doing Both ● Pantheon Benefits ● Questions
  4. 4. Cheeky Monkey - Agency Perspective
  5. 5. Gene + Cheeky Monkey Helping people find their problems and solving them with technology ● Gene: path to CTO ● Cheeky Monkey today ● 20ish people ● Non-profits, Universities, Medium-size business ● Measuring and making improvements ● Long-term Relationships 5
  6. 6. Evolution of the Monkey How We Got Here ● Started: WordPress ● Then Drupal + some WordPress ● Then almost all Drupal ● Then “Why are we worrying about the technology?” ■ Stop saying no to interesting projects ■ Strategists > Technologists 6
  7. 7. WordPress + Drupal: Why?
  8. 8. Different Mental Models Metaphors for Non Geeks ● WordPress ≈ Transformer ● Drupal ≈ Lego ● WordPress ≈ Modular home ● Drupal ≈ Custom home 8
  9. 9. Strengths Drupal + WordPress = Better 9 ● Provide more solutions ● Stop saying ‘No’ to good clients ● Focus on building relationships
  10. 10. Moving Between Both WordPress for Drupal people ● No Views (!) ● Good plugins are often Freemium ● Overriding is easier in Drupal ● Nicer, more polished UI! ● Plugins are solutions - they work or don’t 10
  11. 11. Moving Between Both Drupal for WordPress people ● Views (!) ● Modules are NOT solutions ● Markup and PHP in different places ● Many built in hooks to override All The Things ● More flexibility out of the box 11
  12. 12. WordPress or Drupal?
  13. 13. Can You Tell a WordPress site from a Drupal site? Don’t judge a book by it’s cover Can you tell the difference? 13
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  22. 22. Can You Tell a WordPress site from a Drupal site? Don’t judge a book by it’s cover ● It shouldn’t matter what platform you use ● Provide solutions with ROI ● Who really cares? 22
  23. 23. Practical Guidance
  24. 24. WordPress or Drupal? Hold up, ask a better question! ● Better questions = Better results ● First question != Drupal or Wordpress? ● Better: “Here are my problems. What should I do?” ● Better: “I’m not sure about my problems. Can you help me find and solve?” ● Clients need ROI ● Solutions not websites 24 or✓ ✓
  25. 25. When We Use Them WordPress or Drupal? ● WordPress ■ To hit lower budgets ■ If they just need a brochureware site ■ When the content structure is simple ■ If the solution needed is readily available in the community ● Drupal ■ When the solution calls for complicated data relationships ■ Building custom business applications ■ If we need to combine multiple integrations into the end solution 25
  26. 26. Challenges of Doing Both
  27. 27. Cross-Training Our Team Challenges We Faced ● How? Force :) ● Hire Drupal/WordPress Developers to flesh out the team ● Focus on solutions instead of building websites 27
  28. 28. Cross-Training Our Team Pushback ● Drupal to WordPress: Fought back ● WordPress to Drupal: Easier path ● Resolve by serving the Client 28
  29. 29. Gray Zone WordPress and Drupal Overlap… and that’s Ok ● Same site != same investment on either platform ● Examples we’ve debated: ■ Simple shopping sites ■ Heavy content sites with a mid- range amount of content types ■ Budgeting 29
  30. 30. Pantheon Benefits
  31. 31. Pantheon + Drupal + WordPress Even Better Together ● Shared Best-Practices Workflows ● Easy Team Management ● Scalability ● Security ● Reliability 31
  32. 32. Questions?

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