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1. Are all Engineman taking the EN test for their next adv exam?

Yes, all EN are required to take their current rating exam: IAW NAVADMIN 382/12
paragraph (8)

       A.    NAVY-WIDE EXAM ADMINISTRATION SCHEDULE:
             (1) E7 (ACTIVE/FTS):
                  LAST EXAMS PRIOR TO REALIGNMENT - JANUARY 2013
                  FIRST REVISED EN AND MM EXAMS - JANUARY 2014
             (2) E7 (SELRES/INDIVIDUAL READY RESERVES (IRR)):
                  LAST EXAMS PRIOR TO REALIGNMENT - FEBRUARY 2013
                  FIRST REVISED EN AND MM EXAMS - FEBRUARY 2014
             (3) E4 - E6 (ACTIVE/FTS):
                  LAST EXAMS PRIOR TO REALIGNMENT - MARCH 2013
                  FIRST REVISED EN AND MM EXAMS - SEPTEMBER 2013
             (4) E4 - E6 (SELRES/IRR):
                  LAST EXAMS PRIOR TO REALIGNMENT - AUGUST 2013


2. If and when the realignment is complete do we have any idea how the rate adv %
will end up? Which group?

           Yes, the EN Advancement % will be very low due to the fact that
            advancement is vacancy driven. The current EN community is 153% manned due
            to the reduction in manpower requirement because of the shift of EN
            auxiliaries functions to MM. The end goal is to have the EN optimal manned
            at about 105% across all pay grades.

What does that mean for ENs wishing to stay in the EN Community?


           It means that their promotions will be below the all Navy Average for a
            period of 2 to 3 years. Because as mentioned earlier, advancement is
            vacancy driven and if there are no vacancies, there will be minimum
            advancement to say the least.

           On the flip side, the MM community depending on how many ENs desires to
            switch over will experience favorable advancement opportunities.

           For example: the FY14 Enlisted Program Authorization (EPA) for ENC is 335.
            The current number of Active Duty ENCs is 453.

What does that mean?

           That means that the ENC is currently 118 Sailors overmanned. To reach 100%
            manning for ENC which will open some advancement opportunity due to
            natural attrition (HYT, Fleet Reserve, continuation Boards.etc), we need
            to have at least 118 ENCs to convert to MMC.

     Conversely, the FY14 Enlisted Program Authorization (EPA) for MMC is 520.
      The current number of Active Duty MMCs is 373.
What does that mean?
   That means that the MMC is currently 177 Sailors undermanned. Advancement
       is vacancy driven.

      Bottom-line: I recommend that ENs with or without the NECs listed in the
       NAVADMIN seriously consider the big picture before making their decisions.



3. How will this affect PTS?

      If a Sailor already has an approved PTS quota, the quota is still valid
       until its expiration date. Similar to advancement, the PTS quotas is based
       on the manning of the community per YG per grade. With that being said,
       ENs will have limited PTS approval once this conversion is completed due
       to the over manning of the community due to Sailor's desire to stay EN.

      Conversely, MM PTS approval will be high due to the need to retain MMs in
       the inventory to meet end strength requirement.

4. If selected to stay EN will we receive orders immediately or do we have to
complete our current tour?

      No. you will not receive orders immediately especially for at sea
       component. The Sailor's will rotate at their prescribed rotation date
       (PRD). The prospective gain will be a Sailor who that meets the designated
       rating requirement in accordance with the ship's manning document.

5. If selected for MM will we receive any schools or training for the MM rating?

      No. not automatically, schools will be determined once a Sailor is PCSing
       and if the new command needs a Sailor with a particular auxiliary NEC.

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En mm realignment questions part 2

  • 1. 1. Are all Engineman taking the EN test for their next adv exam? Yes, all EN are required to take their current rating exam: IAW NAVADMIN 382/12 paragraph (8) A. NAVY-WIDE EXAM ADMINISTRATION SCHEDULE: (1) E7 (ACTIVE/FTS): LAST EXAMS PRIOR TO REALIGNMENT - JANUARY 2013 FIRST REVISED EN AND MM EXAMS - JANUARY 2014 (2) E7 (SELRES/INDIVIDUAL READY RESERVES (IRR)): LAST EXAMS PRIOR TO REALIGNMENT - FEBRUARY 2013 FIRST REVISED EN AND MM EXAMS - FEBRUARY 2014 (3) E4 - E6 (ACTIVE/FTS): LAST EXAMS PRIOR TO REALIGNMENT - MARCH 2013 FIRST REVISED EN AND MM EXAMS - SEPTEMBER 2013 (4) E4 - E6 (SELRES/IRR): LAST EXAMS PRIOR TO REALIGNMENT - AUGUST 2013 2. If and when the realignment is complete do we have any idea how the rate adv % will end up? Which group?  Yes, the EN Advancement % will be very low due to the fact that advancement is vacancy driven. The current EN community is 153% manned due to the reduction in manpower requirement because of the shift of EN auxiliaries functions to MM. The end goal is to have the EN optimal manned at about 105% across all pay grades. What does that mean for ENs wishing to stay in the EN Community?  It means that their promotions will be below the all Navy Average for a period of 2 to 3 years. Because as mentioned earlier, advancement is vacancy driven and if there are no vacancies, there will be minimum advancement to say the least.  On the flip side, the MM community depending on how many ENs desires to switch over will experience favorable advancement opportunities.  For example: the FY14 Enlisted Program Authorization (EPA) for ENC is 335. The current number of Active Duty ENCs is 453. What does that mean?  That means that the ENC is currently 118 Sailors overmanned. To reach 100% manning for ENC which will open some advancement opportunity due to natural attrition (HYT, Fleet Reserve, continuation Boards.etc), we need to have at least 118 ENCs to convert to MMC.  Conversely, the FY14 Enlisted Program Authorization (EPA) for MMC is 520. The current number of Active Duty MMCs is 373. What does that mean?
  • 2. That means that the MMC is currently 177 Sailors undermanned. Advancement is vacancy driven.  Bottom-line: I recommend that ENs with or without the NECs listed in the NAVADMIN seriously consider the big picture before making their decisions. 3. How will this affect PTS?  If a Sailor already has an approved PTS quota, the quota is still valid until its expiration date. Similar to advancement, the PTS quotas is based on the manning of the community per YG per grade. With that being said, ENs will have limited PTS approval once this conversion is completed due to the over manning of the community due to Sailor's desire to stay EN.  Conversely, MM PTS approval will be high due to the need to retain MMs in the inventory to meet end strength requirement. 4. If selected to stay EN will we receive orders immediately or do we have to complete our current tour?  No. you will not receive orders immediately especially for at sea component. The Sailor's will rotate at their prescribed rotation date (PRD). The prospective gain will be a Sailor who that meets the designated rating requirement in accordance with the ship's manning document. 5. If selected for MM will we receive any schools or training for the MM rating?  No. not automatically, schools will be determined once a Sailor is PCSing and if the new command needs a Sailor with a particular auxiliary NEC.