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Gagglepod.com
Meetup.com/gagglepod
August 14, 2017
Podcast Audience Building
Kyle Bondo
kyle@trenchbucket.com
meetup.com/gagglepod
gagglepod.com
PODCAST AUDIENCE BUILDING
Gagglepod
How to earn being found and stay found
Tonight's Goals:
Gagglepod Process
Zero Day
You Have Control
Find Your Tribe
PODCAST AUDIENCE BUILDING
Invest in Connections
Show Value
Reach Out
Support
GAGGLEPOD PROCESS
Gagglepod Process
A Podcast Development Approach
GAGGLEPOD PROCESS
EXPERTISE IDEA
BUILD
MICTOOLS LAUNCH
The Gagglepod Process
DEV
1. Something you’re good at
2. Have an idea
3. Develop your show
4. Get some tools
5. Use a good microphone
6. Launch it
7. Build an Audience
GAGGLEPOD PROCESS
EXPERTISE IDEA
BUILD
MICTOOLS LAUNCH
The Gagglepod Process
DEV
1. Something you’re good at
2. Have an idea
3. Develop your show
4. Get some tools
5. Use a good microphone
6. Launch it
7. Build an Audience
GAGGLEPOD PROCESS
BUILD
Step 7: Build
HOW DO GET PEOPLE
TO LISTEN TO MY PODCAST?
GAGGLEPOD PROCESS
Podcast Launch Process
ZERO DAY QUALITY FIND INVEST GROWCONNECT
BUILD
HOW DO GET PEOPLE
TO LISTEN TO MY PODCAST?
“It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the
size of the fight in the dog.”
– Mark Twain
ZERO DAY
Zero Day
Everyone starts at zero.
Everyone Starts at Zero
• Zero Drafts
• Zero Gear
• Zero Episodes Online
• Zero Downloads
• Zero Audience
ZERO DAY
Advantages of Zero Audience
• Make Mistakes
• Tweak Your Show
• Change Your Sound
• Change Your Content
• Fix Things
ZERO DAY
Getting Past Zero
• No Podcast – No Audience
• Have Something to Say
• Don’t Be Boring
• Slow, Measured Growth
• It’s a Marathon
ZERO DAY
Takeaway #1
Everyone starts
at Zero!
Everyone starts a podcast
with zero subscribers.
SELECTING A HOST
Doesn't start with what is coming out of your mouth,
but what is going into their ears...
– Dave Jackson
QUALITY - YOU HAVE CONTROL
Quality
Only you can make a great show
The Day After Zero
• Start a Podcast
• Buy some gear
• Record an Episode
• Receive a Download
• First Subscriber…
QUALITY - YOU HAVE CONTROL
Now You Have an Audience!
“Now I have a listener!
Yeah! Awesome!
QUALITY - YOU HAVE CONTROL
QUALITY - YOU HAVE CONTROL
Now You Have an Audience!
“Now I have a listener!
Yeah! Awesome!
BUT…
“Oh, No!
Now I have a listener!
NOW WHAT?”
Getting a listener and
Keeping a listener…
Are two very different things!
QUALITY - YOU HAVE CONTROL
Takeaway #2
Quality is about YOU!
Principals of Quality
• Great Content
• Great Presentation
• Great Sound
QUALITY - YOU HAVE CONTROL
Great Content
Needs to be…
• Helping
• Entertaining
• Relevant
• Compelling
QUALITY - YOU HAVE CONTROL
Great Presentation
Needs to be…
• Personal
• Authoritative
• Clear
QUALITY - YOU HAVE CONTROL
Great Sound
Needs to be…
• Clear
• Professional
• Confident
QUALITY - YOU HAVE CONTROL
"Very rarely [...] do you hear someone
talk about a podcast and say:
'You've go to listen to this podcast! The audio production,
the quality of the music, and the microphones is amazing!
The content and the way the present it is absolutely horrible,
but [that] amazing production…!'“
- Daniel J. Lewis
QUALITY - YOU HAVE CONTROL
Takeaway #3
“The battle is all over except the 'shouting'...”
– Napoleon Hill
FIND YOUR TRIBE
Find
How do people find my show?
Find Your Audience
• Find them Online
• Leverage Relationships
• Leverage Influence
FIND YOUR TRIBE
Find Where They Live Online
• What do they read?
• Where do they shop?
• What do they buy?
Do they share their thoughts?
• Where do they share?
• What do they say?
FIND YOUR TRIBE
Find Their Market
• What do they read?
• What events do they attend?
• Where do they hang out?
Do they share their thoughts?
• Product Reviews?
• Comments on Articles?
FIND YOUR TRIBE
Observe Them…
• Complaints?
• Pains?
• Likes?
• Loves?
• Controversial Topics?
• Trendy Topics?
• Ignoring Topics?
FIND YOUR TRIBE
Lurk…
With a purpose!
FIND YOUR TRIBE
Takeaway #4
“"If you want to be, do.“
- John Lee Dumas
INVEST IN CONNECTIONS
Invest
Connect with your audience and earn their trust
Give First, Second, and Third
• Give
• Give
• Give
• Give
• Give
• Then promote yourself
• Then give some more
INVEST IN CONNECTIONS
Don’t Throw Rocks
• Don't say “Here I am!“
• Don’t just post links
• Don’t Spam
• Don’t Sell
INVEST IN CONNECTIONS
Become an Influencer
• Answer Questions
• Become a Peer
• Be Helpful
• Be the “Go To”
Form Trust
• Invest in Community
• Give value first
INVEST IN CONNECTIONS
First you give value…
Then you get value!
INVEST IN CONNECTIONS
Takeaway #5
“"If you want to be, do.“
- John Lee Dumas
CONNECT BY SHOWING VALUE
Connect
Convince them with your value.
Connection Advantage
• Content generation machine
• Ideas for future episodes
Guide Your Show
• Present or ignore
• Focus on Trendy
• Take a Position
CONNECT BY SHOWING VALUE
Using Connections of Trust
• Link to Relevant Content
• Organically Find your show
Lead the Conversation
• Talk about your topics
• Talk about Ignored Topics
• Become the Source
CONNECT BY SHOWING VALUE
Once connected…
You can start leading
the conversation
INVEST IN CONNECTIONS
Takeaway #6
“Actions speak louder than words.
All companies say they care, right?
But few actually exercise that care..“
- Simon Sinek
REACH OUT AND GET TALKING
Reach Out
Get others to talk about your podcast.
Word of Mouth Marketing
• Equip Your Audience
• Ask them to Share
• Bring On Quality Guest
• BE a Quality Guest
REACH OUT AND GET TALKING
Value of Engagement
• Make Ambassadors
• Not just rating/reviews
• Ask them to tell people
• Ask them to Share
REACH OUT AND GET TALKING
The Value of Guests
• Bring On Quality Guests
• Ask Real Questions
Don’t Focus…
• What they give you
Focus on…
• What they give your audience
REACH OUT AND GET TALKING
"The value
is not in the size of your guest,
the value is
IN YOUR GUEST!"
- Dave Jackson
INVEST IN CONNECTIONS
Takeaway #7
PODCASTING SUPPORT
Support
Where can I get help?
“Learning is not done to you.
Learning is something you choose to do.”
– Seth Godin
PODCASTING SUPPORT
Podcasts about Podcasting
• School of Podcasting – schoolofpodcasting.com
• Ask the Podcast Coach – askthepodcastcoach.com
• Audacity to Podcast – audacitytopodcast.com
• The Podcasters Studio – thepodcastersstudio.com
• Podcasters’ Roundtable – podcastersroundtable.com
• Podcast Answerman – podcastanswerman.com
Local Connections
Merchants of Dirt
@MerchantsofDirt
merchantsofdirt.com
reckoneer.com
Gagglepod
Podcasters Meetup
gagglepod.com
meetup.com/gagglepod
Get Lost Racing
@MerchantsofDirt
getlostracing.com
reckoneer.com
PODCASTING SUPPORT
THANK YOU
Kyle Bondo
@MerchantsofDirt
kyle@trenchbucket.com
meetup.com/gagglepod
Gagglepod.com

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Podcast Audience Building

  • 2. Podcast Audience Building Kyle Bondo kyle@trenchbucket.com meetup.com/gagglepod gagglepod.com PODCAST AUDIENCE BUILDING Gagglepod How to earn being found and stay found
  • 3. Tonight's Goals: Gagglepod Process Zero Day You Have Control Find Your Tribe PODCAST AUDIENCE BUILDING Invest in Connections Show Value Reach Out Support
  • 4. GAGGLEPOD PROCESS Gagglepod Process A Podcast Development Approach
  • 5. GAGGLEPOD PROCESS EXPERTISE IDEA BUILD MICTOOLS LAUNCH The Gagglepod Process DEV 1. Something you’re good at 2. Have an idea 3. Develop your show 4. Get some tools 5. Use a good microphone 6. Launch it 7. Build an Audience
  • 6. GAGGLEPOD PROCESS EXPERTISE IDEA BUILD MICTOOLS LAUNCH The Gagglepod Process DEV 1. Something you’re good at 2. Have an idea 3. Develop your show 4. Get some tools 5. Use a good microphone 6. Launch it 7. Build an Audience
  • 7. GAGGLEPOD PROCESS BUILD Step 7: Build HOW DO GET PEOPLE TO LISTEN TO MY PODCAST?
  • 8. GAGGLEPOD PROCESS Podcast Launch Process ZERO DAY QUALITY FIND INVEST GROWCONNECT BUILD HOW DO GET PEOPLE TO LISTEN TO MY PODCAST?
  • 9. “It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog.” – Mark Twain ZERO DAY Zero Day Everyone starts at zero.
  • 10. Everyone Starts at Zero • Zero Drafts • Zero Gear • Zero Episodes Online • Zero Downloads • Zero Audience ZERO DAY
  • 11. Advantages of Zero Audience • Make Mistakes • Tweak Your Show • Change Your Sound • Change Your Content • Fix Things ZERO DAY
  • 12. Getting Past Zero • No Podcast – No Audience • Have Something to Say • Don’t Be Boring • Slow, Measured Growth • It’s a Marathon ZERO DAY
  • 13. Takeaway #1 Everyone starts at Zero! Everyone starts a podcast with zero subscribers. SELECTING A HOST
  • 14. Doesn't start with what is coming out of your mouth, but what is going into their ears... – Dave Jackson QUALITY - YOU HAVE CONTROL Quality Only you can make a great show
  • 15. The Day After Zero • Start a Podcast • Buy some gear • Record an Episode • Receive a Download • First Subscriber… QUALITY - YOU HAVE CONTROL
  • 16. Now You Have an Audience! “Now I have a listener! Yeah! Awesome! QUALITY - YOU HAVE CONTROL
  • 17. QUALITY - YOU HAVE CONTROL Now You Have an Audience! “Now I have a listener! Yeah! Awesome! BUT… “Oh, No! Now I have a listener! NOW WHAT?”
  • 18. Getting a listener and Keeping a listener… Are two very different things! QUALITY - YOU HAVE CONTROL Takeaway #2
  • 19. Quality is about YOU! Principals of Quality • Great Content • Great Presentation • Great Sound QUALITY - YOU HAVE CONTROL
  • 20. Great Content Needs to be… • Helping • Entertaining • Relevant • Compelling QUALITY - YOU HAVE CONTROL
  • 21. Great Presentation Needs to be… • Personal • Authoritative • Clear QUALITY - YOU HAVE CONTROL
  • 22. Great Sound Needs to be… • Clear • Professional • Confident QUALITY - YOU HAVE CONTROL
  • 23. "Very rarely [...] do you hear someone talk about a podcast and say: 'You've go to listen to this podcast! The audio production, the quality of the music, and the microphones is amazing! The content and the way the present it is absolutely horrible, but [that] amazing production…!'“ - Daniel J. Lewis QUALITY - YOU HAVE CONTROL Takeaway #3
  • 24. “The battle is all over except the 'shouting'...” – Napoleon Hill FIND YOUR TRIBE Find How do people find my show?
  • 25. Find Your Audience • Find them Online • Leverage Relationships • Leverage Influence FIND YOUR TRIBE
  • 26. Find Where They Live Online • What do they read? • Where do they shop? • What do they buy? Do they share their thoughts? • Where do they share? • What do they say? FIND YOUR TRIBE
  • 27. Find Their Market • What do they read? • What events do they attend? • Where do they hang out? Do they share their thoughts? • Product Reviews? • Comments on Articles? FIND YOUR TRIBE
  • 28. Observe Them… • Complaints? • Pains? • Likes? • Loves? • Controversial Topics? • Trendy Topics? • Ignoring Topics? FIND YOUR TRIBE
  • 29. Lurk… With a purpose! FIND YOUR TRIBE Takeaway #4
  • 30. “"If you want to be, do.“ - John Lee Dumas INVEST IN CONNECTIONS Invest Connect with your audience and earn their trust
  • 31. Give First, Second, and Third • Give • Give • Give • Give • Give • Then promote yourself • Then give some more INVEST IN CONNECTIONS
  • 32. Don’t Throw Rocks • Don't say “Here I am!“ • Don’t just post links • Don’t Spam • Don’t Sell INVEST IN CONNECTIONS
  • 33. Become an Influencer • Answer Questions • Become a Peer • Be Helpful • Be the “Go To” Form Trust • Invest in Community • Give value first INVEST IN CONNECTIONS
  • 34. First you give value… Then you get value! INVEST IN CONNECTIONS Takeaway #5
  • 35. “"If you want to be, do.“ - John Lee Dumas CONNECT BY SHOWING VALUE Connect Convince them with your value.
  • 36. Connection Advantage • Content generation machine • Ideas for future episodes Guide Your Show • Present or ignore • Focus on Trendy • Take a Position CONNECT BY SHOWING VALUE
  • 37. Using Connections of Trust • Link to Relevant Content • Organically Find your show Lead the Conversation • Talk about your topics • Talk about Ignored Topics • Become the Source CONNECT BY SHOWING VALUE
  • 38. Once connected… You can start leading the conversation INVEST IN CONNECTIONS Takeaway #6
  • 39. “Actions speak louder than words. All companies say they care, right? But few actually exercise that care..“ - Simon Sinek REACH OUT AND GET TALKING Reach Out Get others to talk about your podcast.
  • 40. Word of Mouth Marketing • Equip Your Audience • Ask them to Share • Bring On Quality Guest • BE a Quality Guest REACH OUT AND GET TALKING
  • 41. Value of Engagement • Make Ambassadors • Not just rating/reviews • Ask them to tell people • Ask them to Share REACH OUT AND GET TALKING
  • 42. The Value of Guests • Bring On Quality Guests • Ask Real Questions Don’t Focus… • What they give you Focus on… • What they give your audience REACH OUT AND GET TALKING
  • 43. "The value is not in the size of your guest, the value is IN YOUR GUEST!" - Dave Jackson INVEST IN CONNECTIONS Takeaway #7
  • 44. PODCASTING SUPPORT Support Where can I get help? “Learning is not done to you. Learning is something you choose to do.” – Seth Godin
  • 45. PODCASTING SUPPORT Podcasts about Podcasting • School of Podcasting – schoolofpodcasting.com • Ask the Podcast Coach – askthepodcastcoach.com • Audacity to Podcast – audacitytopodcast.com • The Podcasters Studio – thepodcastersstudio.com • Podcasters’ Roundtable – podcastersroundtable.com • Podcast Answerman – podcastanswerman.com
  • 46. Local Connections Merchants of Dirt @MerchantsofDirt merchantsofdirt.com reckoneer.com Gagglepod Podcasters Meetup gagglepod.com meetup.com/gagglepod Get Lost Racing @MerchantsofDirt getlostracing.com reckoneer.com PODCASTING SUPPORT