SlideShare une entreprise Scribd logo
1  sur  35
Télécharger pour lire hors ligne
MULTIGIGABIT MODELS FOR
  COUPLED LINES by Piero Belforte
            dec. 2009

                Method for quick and accurate
               multigigabit model extraction of
             coupled line pairs using TDR measures
                     and DWS simulations

20/12/2009                Copyright Piero Belforte   1
TARGETS:
•   Mininum experimental setup effort
•   Fast measurements using TDR only
•   Minumum number of required measurements
•   Maximum efficiency of extracted models
•   No numerical stability problems
•   Possibly Time-Domain only



20/12/2009         Copyright Piero Belforte   2
CHOSEN SOLUTIONS
ONE-PORT only TDR measurements
OTHER PORTS LEFT OPEN
MODEL BEHAVIORAL DESCRIPTION
PWL S-PARAMETERS DESCRIPTION
MAXIMUM 3-POINT PWL
DWS for MODEL SIMULATION
2D SOLVER to get STARTING LOSSLESS MODEL
MODEL PARAMETERS FOUND AS OPTIMUM
  MATCH WITH MEASURES OF the WHOLE SETUP
20/12/2009        Copyright Piero Belforte   3
TEST VEHICULE
•   COUPLED MICROSTRIP PAIR
•   FR4 SUBSTRATE H=1.4mm
•   Length=136mm W=140um S=394um (Center)
•   ACCESS THROUGH VIA HOLES and 60um PADS




20/12/2009        Copyright Piero Belforte   4
VIA HOLES and PADS
•   60 mils (1520 um)square pad
•   50 mils (1270 um) via diameter
•   Dielectric (FR4) height H=1400um
•   Very large compared to coupled pair




20/12/2009           Copyright Piero Belforte   5
Full Ideal Setup
•   No Vias, No TDR parasitics, Ideal lossless lines
•   Mode data from 2D Field Solver
•   COMMON MODE: TD=891.4 ps
•   DIFFERENTIAL MODE: TD=710.9 ps




20/12/2009            Copyright Piero Belforte         6
Ideal (Lossless model) from 2D Field
            Solver (DWS description)


Modal
Adaptors                                                                   Lossless Modal
                                                                           Transmission
                                                                           Lines

                                                                Voltage
                                                                EigenVectors
                                                                Matrix (2X2)

       This model is inserted as first order approximation in the DWS TDR setup
       description .

  20/12/2009                         Copyright Piero Belforte                               7
PSEUDO-DIFFERENTIAL SETUP
• TDR connected at port #1
• Remaining ports left open

              1
                                              3


                                              4
             2




20/12/2009         Copyright Piero Belforte       8
COMMON MODE SETUP
Ports #1 and #2 connected together
Ports #3 and #4 left open
TDR at ports #1 and #2

                1
                                               3


                2




20/12/2009          Copyright Piero Belforte       9
Full Ideal Setup:Simulation Results

                                              Common
                                              mode
                                              setup




             Pseudo-
             differential
             setup




                            2xDeltaTD=360ps




20/12/2009                          Copyright Piero Belforte   10
Ideal Pseudo-diff vs Measure




20/12/2009             Copyright Piero Belforte   11
Ideal Common mode vs Measure
                 (Window 6ns)




20/12/2009        Copyright Piero Belforte   12
Common mode TDR

                                                          Lossless
                                                          Model




                        Actual
                        measure




             The differences between the actual measure and the lossless model
20/12/2009                             Copyright Piero Belforte                  13
             are outlined in yellow
Ideal Near-end Xtalk vs Measure
                  (Window 5ns)




20/12/2009           Copyright Piero Belforte   14
Adding Vias and parasitics
• Models of Vias and setup parasitics (Launch
  cable tip and common mode connection) are
  extracted by means of TDR measures.
• The extracted models are the inserted in the
  setup simulation model to evaluate their
  effect on overall DUT response



20/12/2009            Copyright Piero Belforte   15
TDR cable tip model
•      The effects of TDR semi-rigid launch cable are not negligible and have to be taken
       into account
•      The unshielded tip of the cable has a major discontinuity contribution on TDR
       response
•      An accurate model can be derived from an actual TDR measure of a grounded tip
                                                                                 Semi-rigid coax.
                                                                                 1.8mm Outer
                                                                                 Diameter.


                                                                                 Unshielded
                                                                                 PTFE dielectric


                                                                                Center conductor
                                                                                (diameter= .3mm)


                                                                                 Via and pad

                                                                                Microstrip end
    20/12/2009                         Copyright Piero Belforte                                16
Model of TDR Cable tip
•   A LCR DWS model of the tip is extracted from the measure of the grounded tip
•   The model parameters are optimized to get the best match between measure
    and simulation




20/12/2009                        Copyright Piero Belforte                         17
Pad and via model
• From the TDR response of an open via a
  circuital model is extracted by optimization
  of the model response
  The TDR launch cable tip is also taken into
  account




20/12/2009          Copyright Piero Belforte     18
Optimized model response vs actual
                measure




20/12/2009       Copyright Piero Belforte   19
Via and pad DWS optimized model
                 description
• The model is described as DWS subcircuit
  (stub TL with radiation losses and RC lumped
  load to gnd)




20/12/2009         Copyright Piero Belforte      20
Adding Vias and parasitics
• The previous models of Vias and setup
  parasitics (Launch cable tip and common
  mode connection) are added to the whole
  simulation model including the lossless modal
  description of the coupled pair.




20/12/2009            Copyright Piero Belforte   21
Pseudo Differential TDR: results


                                        3
                                                            4

                                    2
                                                    Model
                                                    Simulation
                                   Actual TDR
                            1      Measure




             Several differences can be still pointed out between this model
20/12/2009                         Copyright Piero Belforte                    22
             and the actual measure
Adding losses and adjusting DUT
               model parameters
     Losses are added to the DWS simulation model of the DUT. A simplified
     Behavioral model of both even and odd modes is used instead of lossless
     trasmission lines.
     A three point PWL description of S21 is used to model losses. The S11 is
     assumed ideal. The coordinates of S21 PWL description are optimized to match
     the measurement results . The mode impedances and propagation delay times
     are also optimized to match the actual measure. The optimization procedure is
     applied to both measurement setups (pseudo- differential and common
     configurations with all other ports left open).
     In this way a true de-embedding of coupled line parameters is performed
     because all other setup effects are taken into account in the DWS netlist.
     To check the results a near-end crosstalk simulation is performed and compared
     to the actual measure.




20/12/2009                         Copyright Piero Belforte                           23
Coupled pair lossless DWS model using
         Bimodal adaptors




20/12/2009     Copyright Piero Belforte   24
Adding setup effects and losses(1)




20/12/2009     Copyright Piero Belforte   25
Adding setup effects and losses (2)




20/12/2009     Copyright Piero Belforte   26
Coupled pair lossy DWS model:
                   optimized results




20/12/2009              Copyright Piero Belforte   27
Checking the near-end crosstalk: setup




20/12/2009     Copyright Piero Belforte   28
Checking the Near-end
             crosstalk:model vs measure




20/12/2009            Copyright Piero Belforte   29
TraceAnalyzer: input configuration




20/12/2009    Copyright Piero Belforte   30
TraceAnalyzer: results




20/12/2009          Copyright Piero Belforte   31
Results comparison

                 Z0e (ohms)    Z0o (ohms)                TDe (ps)   Tdo(ps)



Trace Analyzer
From
crossection      217           79.87                     755        688
data
DWS meas.
based            190           64                        725        675
optimization




20/12/2009                    Copyright Piero Belforte                        32
De-embedding setup and via effects




21/12/2009       Copyright Piero Belforte   33
De-embedded model: effect of losses
      on reflected edge rise time




21/12/2009      Copyright Piero Belforte   34
TLineSim results for a single line: effect
    of losses on the reflected edge




21/12/2009       Copyright Piero Belforte   35

Contenu connexe

Tendances

SPICE MODEL of EFR5365S , RED , (Standard Model) in SPICE PARK
SPICE MODEL of EFR5365S , RED , (Standard Model) in SPICE PARKSPICE MODEL of EFR5365S , RED , (Standard Model) in SPICE PARK
SPICE MODEL of EFR5365S , RED , (Standard Model) in SPICE PARKTsuyoshi Horigome
 
S20x6.4 brm brochure
S20x6.4 brm brochureS20x6.4 brm brochure
S20x6.4 brm brochureAV ProfShop
 
Method Development for Dynamic Light Scattering
Method Development for Dynamic Light ScatteringMethod Development for Dynamic Light Scattering
Method Development for Dynamic Light ScatteringHORIBA Particle
 
Interpreting and Understanding Dynamic Light Scattering Size Data
Interpreting and Understanding Dynamic Light Scattering Size DataInterpreting and Understanding Dynamic Light Scattering Size Data
Interpreting and Understanding Dynamic Light Scattering Size DataHORIBA Particle
 
IP. Lacharmoise - InnovativeThin Film Devices for Photovoltaic Automotive App...
IP. Lacharmoise - InnovativeThin Film Devices for Photovoltaic Automotive App...IP. Lacharmoise - InnovativeThin Film Devices for Photovoltaic Automotive App...
IP. Lacharmoise - InnovativeThin Film Devices for Photovoltaic Automotive App...ponencias.eurosurfas2011
 
Low-Bend Fiber Technology
Low-Bend Fiber TechnologyLow-Bend Fiber Technology
Low-Bend Fiber Technologyineltec 2011
 
Understanding Your Particle Size Analyzer Results
Understanding Your Particle Size Analyzer ResultsUnderstanding Your Particle Size Analyzer Results
Understanding Your Particle Size Analyzer ResultsHORIBA Particle
 
Characterizing Nanoparticles used in Bio Applications
Characterizing Nanoparticles used in Bio ApplicationsCharacterizing Nanoparticles used in Bio Applications
Characterizing Nanoparticles used in Bio ApplicationsHORIBA Particle
 
Fiber otdr testing
Fiber otdr testingFiber otdr testing
Fiber otdr testingbsateeshbsnl
 
Fiber Optical cable brochure-QianXin
Fiber Optical cable brochure-QianXinFiber Optical cable brochure-QianXin
Fiber Optical cable brochure-QianXinMarcio Maia Figueira
 
Welcome to International Journal of Engineering Research and Development (IJERD)
Welcome to International Journal of Engineering Research and Development (IJERD)Welcome to International Journal of Engineering Research and Development (IJERD)
Welcome to International Journal of Engineering Research and Development (IJERD)IJERD Editor
 
2 data preparation process
2 data preparation process2 data preparation process
2 data preparation processsasikun
 
1 introduction to vlsi physical design
1 introduction to vlsi physical design1 introduction to vlsi physical design
1 introduction to vlsi physical designsasikun
 
Guardian Eco Guard Pattern Anti Reflective Solar Glass
Guardian Eco Guard Pattern Anti Reflective Solar GlassGuardian Eco Guard Pattern Anti Reflective Solar Glass
Guardian Eco Guard Pattern Anti Reflective Solar GlassSam Malty
 

Tendances (18)

SPICE MODEL of EFR5365S , RED , (Standard Model) in SPICE PARK
SPICE MODEL of EFR5365S , RED , (Standard Model) in SPICE PARKSPICE MODEL of EFR5365S , RED , (Standard Model) in SPICE PARK
SPICE MODEL of EFR5365S , RED , (Standard Model) in SPICE PARK
 
Sun Odn H Instruction Manual
Sun Odn H Instruction ManualSun Odn H Instruction Manual
Sun Odn H Instruction Manual
 
S20x6.4 brm brochure
S20x6.4 brm brochureS20x6.4 brm brochure
S20x6.4 brm brochure
 
Method Development for Dynamic Light Scattering
Method Development for Dynamic Light ScatteringMethod Development for Dynamic Light Scattering
Method Development for Dynamic Light Scattering
 
Interpreting and Understanding Dynamic Light Scattering Size Data
Interpreting and Understanding Dynamic Light Scattering Size DataInterpreting and Understanding Dynamic Light Scattering Size Data
Interpreting and Understanding Dynamic Light Scattering Size Data
 
Lh2519601962
Lh2519601962Lh2519601962
Lh2519601962
 
IP. Lacharmoise - InnovativeThin Film Devices for Photovoltaic Automotive App...
IP. Lacharmoise - InnovativeThin Film Devices for Photovoltaic Automotive App...IP. Lacharmoise - InnovativeThin Film Devices for Photovoltaic Automotive App...
IP. Lacharmoise - InnovativeThin Film Devices for Photovoltaic Automotive App...
 
Low-Bend Fiber Technology
Low-Bend Fiber TechnologyLow-Bend Fiber Technology
Low-Bend Fiber Technology
 
Understanding Your Particle Size Analyzer Results
Understanding Your Particle Size Analyzer ResultsUnderstanding Your Particle Size Analyzer Results
Understanding Your Particle Size Analyzer Results
 
Characterizing Nanoparticles used in Bio Applications
Characterizing Nanoparticles used in Bio ApplicationsCharacterizing Nanoparticles used in Bio Applications
Characterizing Nanoparticles used in Bio Applications
 
Dp25687691
Dp25687691Dp25687691
Dp25687691
 
Fiber otdr testing
Fiber otdr testingFiber otdr testing
Fiber otdr testing
 
Fiber Optical cable brochure-QianXin
Fiber Optical cable brochure-QianXinFiber Optical cable brochure-QianXin
Fiber Optical cable brochure-QianXin
 
Welcome to International Journal of Engineering Research and Development (IJERD)
Welcome to International Journal of Engineering Research and Development (IJERD)Welcome to International Journal of Engineering Research and Development (IJERD)
Welcome to International Journal of Engineering Research and Development (IJERD)
 
2 data preparation process
2 data preparation process2 data preparation process
2 data preparation process
 
1 introduction to vlsi physical design
1 introduction to vlsi physical design1 introduction to vlsi physical design
1 introduction to vlsi physical design
 
Guardian Eco Guard Pattern Anti Reflective Solar Glass
Guardian Eco Guard Pattern Anti Reflective Solar GlassGuardian Eco Guard Pattern Anti Reflective Solar Glass
Guardian Eco Guard Pattern Anti Reflective Solar Glass
 
45651639 total-umts
45651639 total-umts45651639 total-umts
45651639 total-umts
 

Similaire à 2009 pb dws_multigigabit_models_of_lossy_coupled_lines

Nd at s best practices for single mode tier i ii testing 01-2011
Nd at s   best practices for single mode tier i  ii testing 01-2011Nd at s   best practices for single mode tier i  ii testing 01-2011
Nd at s best practices for single mode tier i ii testing 01-2011Dean Murray
 
How to use time domain reflectometer (tdr)
How to use time domain reflectometer (tdr)How to use time domain reflectometer (tdr)
How to use time domain reflectometer (tdr)3Anetwork com
 
Catalog DLMM 2019-Metalized composite 2mm pitch connector that meets Mil-8351...
Catalog DLMM 2019-Metalized composite 2mm pitch connector that meets Mil-8351...Catalog DLMM 2019-Metalized composite 2mm pitch connector that meets Mil-8351...
Catalog DLMM 2019-Metalized composite 2mm pitch connector that meets Mil-8351...NICOMATIC
 
How to Use the DTX-EFM2 Fiber Modules to Test Installed Corning Multimode Pre...
How to Use the DTX-EFM2 Fiber Modules to Test Installed Corning Multimode Pre...How to Use the DTX-EFM2 Fiber Modules to Test Installed Corning Multimode Pre...
How to Use the DTX-EFM2 Fiber Modules to Test Installed Corning Multimode Pre...Fluke Networks
 
Tdr measurement of rg58 coaxial cable s parameters 120413
Tdr measurement of rg58 coaxial cable s parameters 120413Tdr measurement of rg58 coaxial cable s parameters 120413
Tdr measurement of rg58 coaxial cable s parameters 120413Piero Belforte
 
Alignment in DDA Distributed Access Architecture_4-28-2020
Alignment in DDA Distributed Access Architecture_4-28-2020Alignment in DDA Distributed Access Architecture_4-28-2020
Alignment in DDA Distributed Access Architecture_4-28-2020The Volpe Firm, Inc.
 
How to Use the DTX-MFM2 Fiber Modules to Test Installed Corning Multimode Pre...
How to Use the DTX-MFM2 Fiber Modules to Test Installed Corning Multimode Pre...How to Use the DTX-MFM2 Fiber Modules to Test Installed Corning Multimode Pre...
How to Use the DTX-MFM2 Fiber Modules to Test Installed Corning Multimode Pre...Fluke Networks
 
2013 06 tdr measurement and simulation of rg58 coaxial cable s-parameters_final
2013 06 tdr measurement and simulation  of rg58 coaxial cable s-parameters_final2013 06 tdr measurement and simulation  of rg58 coaxial cable s-parameters_final
2013 06 tdr measurement and simulation of rg58 coaxial cable s-parameters_finalPiero Belforte
 
EDFA OPTIMIZING THE EDFA GAIN FOR WDM
EDFA OPTIMIZING THE EDFA GAIN FOR WDMEDFA OPTIMIZING THE EDFA GAIN FOR WDM
EDFA OPTIMIZING THE EDFA GAIN FOR WDMADITYA KHATOKAR J
 
Rfconnext Pmtl Ddr Applications
Rfconnext Pmtl Ddr ApplicationsRfconnext Pmtl Ddr Applications
Rfconnext Pmtl Ddr Applicationsrfconnex
 
Huawei Capacity Upgrade
Huawei Capacity UpgradeHuawei Capacity Upgrade
Huawei Capacity UpgradeAdrian Hall
 
OFC 2019 - 100G DWDM DCI/Metro Network Solutions - Debating alternatives to ...
OFC 2019 -  100G DWDM DCI/Metro Network Solutions - Debating alternatives to ...OFC 2019 -  100G DWDM DCI/Metro Network Solutions - Debating alternatives to ...
OFC 2019 - 100G DWDM DCI/Metro Network Solutions - Debating alternatives to ...Tim Yount
 
DWDM Presentation
DWDM PresentationDWDM Presentation
DWDM Presentationayodejieasy
 

Similaire à 2009 pb dws_multigigabit_models_of_lossy_coupled_lines (20)

Nd at s best practices for single mode tier i ii testing 01-2011
Nd at s   best practices for single mode tier i  ii testing 01-2011Nd at s   best practices for single mode tier i  ii testing 01-2011
Nd at s best practices for single mode tier i ii testing 01-2011
 
How to use time domain reflectometer (tdr)
How to use time domain reflectometer (tdr)How to use time domain reflectometer (tdr)
How to use time domain reflectometer (tdr)
 
Catalog DLMM 2019-Metalized composite 2mm pitch connector that meets Mil-8351...
Catalog DLMM 2019-Metalized composite 2mm pitch connector that meets Mil-8351...Catalog DLMM 2019-Metalized composite 2mm pitch connector that meets Mil-8351...
Catalog DLMM 2019-Metalized composite 2mm pitch connector that meets Mil-8351...
 
How to Use the DTX-EFM2 Fiber Modules to Test Installed Corning Multimode Pre...
How to Use the DTX-EFM2 Fiber Modules to Test Installed Corning Multimode Pre...How to Use the DTX-EFM2 Fiber Modules to Test Installed Corning Multimode Pre...
How to Use the DTX-EFM2 Fiber Modules to Test Installed Corning Multimode Pre...
 
Tdr measurement of rg58 coaxial cable s parameters 120413
Tdr measurement of rg58 coaxial cable s parameters 120413Tdr measurement of rg58 coaxial cable s parameters 120413
Tdr measurement of rg58 coaxial cable s parameters 120413
 
Alignment in DDA Distributed Access Architecture_4-28-2020
Alignment in DDA Distributed Access Architecture_4-28-2020Alignment in DDA Distributed Access Architecture_4-28-2020
Alignment in DDA Distributed Access Architecture_4-28-2020
 
How to Use the DTX-MFM2 Fiber Modules to Test Installed Corning Multimode Pre...
How to Use the DTX-MFM2 Fiber Modules to Test Installed Corning Multimode Pre...How to Use the DTX-MFM2 Fiber Modules to Test Installed Corning Multimode Pre...
How to Use the DTX-MFM2 Fiber Modules to Test Installed Corning Multimode Pre...
 
Tdd Versus Fdd
Tdd Versus FddTdd Versus Fdd
Tdd Versus Fdd
 
2013 06 tdr measurement and simulation of rg58 coaxial cable s-parameters_final
2013 06 tdr measurement and simulation  of rg58 coaxial cable s-parameters_final2013 06 tdr measurement and simulation  of rg58 coaxial cable s-parameters_final
2013 06 tdr measurement and simulation of rg58 coaxial cable s-parameters_final
 
EDFA OPTIMIZING THE EDFA GAIN FOR WDM
EDFA OPTIMIZING THE EDFA GAIN FOR WDMEDFA OPTIMIZING THE EDFA GAIN FOR WDM
EDFA OPTIMIZING THE EDFA GAIN FOR WDM
 
Rfconnext Pmtl Ddr Applications
Rfconnext Pmtl Ddr ApplicationsRfconnext Pmtl Ddr Applications
Rfconnext Pmtl Ddr Applications
 
Sitransf fus accessories_fi01en
Sitransf fus accessories_fi01enSitransf fus accessories_fi01en
Sitransf fus accessories_fi01en
 
Huawei Capacity Upgrade
Huawei Capacity UpgradeHuawei Capacity Upgrade
Huawei Capacity Upgrade
 
FTTx-OCDNF 05022006.pdf
FTTx-OCDNF 05022006.pdfFTTx-OCDNF 05022006.pdf
FTTx-OCDNF 05022006.pdf
 
E2020 TDR Telco Training
E2020 TDR Telco TrainingE2020 TDR Telco Training
E2020 TDR Telco Training
 
E2020 TDR CATV Training
E2020 TDR CATV TrainingE2020 TDR CATV Training
E2020 TDR CATV Training
 
OFC 2019 - 100G DWDM DCI/Metro Network Solutions - Debating alternatives to ...
OFC 2019 -  100G DWDM DCI/Metro Network Solutions - Debating alternatives to ...OFC 2019 -  100G DWDM DCI/Metro Network Solutions - Debating alternatives to ...
OFC 2019 - 100G DWDM DCI/Metro Network Solutions - Debating alternatives to ...
 
DWDM Presentation
DWDM PresentationDWDM Presentation
DWDM Presentation
 
Dense wavelength division multiplexing (dwdm) technique
Dense wavelength division multiplexing (dwdm) techniqueDense wavelength division multiplexing (dwdm) technique
Dense wavelength division multiplexing (dwdm) technique
 
E2020 General Step TDR Training
E2020 General Step TDR TrainingE2020 General Step TDR Training
E2020 General Step TDR Training
 

Plus de Piero Belforte

Simulation-modeling matrix
Simulation-modeling matrixSimulation-modeling matrix
Simulation-modeling matrixPiero Belforte
 
Frequency domain behavior of S-parameters piecewise-linear fitting in a digit...
Frequency domain behavior of S-parameters piecewise-linear fitting in a digit...Frequency domain behavior of S-parameters piecewise-linear fitting in a digit...
Frequency domain behavior of S-parameters piecewise-linear fitting in a digit...Piero Belforte
 
3 experimental wideband_characterization_of_a parallel-plate_capacitor
3 experimental wideband_characterization_of_a parallel-plate_capacitor3 experimental wideband_characterization_of_a parallel-plate_capacitor
3 experimental wideband_characterization_of_a parallel-plate_capacitorPiero Belforte
 
Automated Piecewise-Linear Fitting of S-Parameters step-response (PWLFIT) for...
Automated Piecewise-Linear Fitting of S-Parameters step-response (PWLFIT) for...Automated Piecewise-Linear Fitting of S-Parameters step-response (PWLFIT) for...
Automated Piecewise-Linear Fitting of S-Parameters step-response (PWLFIT) for...Piero Belforte
 
Cseltmuseum post records from September 2018 to January2019
Cseltmuseum post records from September 2018 to January2019Cseltmuseum post records from September 2018 to January2019
Cseltmuseum post records from September 2018 to January2019Piero Belforte
 
Cseltmuseum post records August2018
Cseltmuseum post records August2018Cseltmuseum post records August2018
Cseltmuseum post records August2018Piero Belforte
 
Cseltmuseum post records July 2018
Cseltmuseum post records July 2018Cseltmuseum post records July 2018
Cseltmuseum post records July 2018Piero Belforte
 
Multigigabit modeling of hi safe+ flying probe fp011
Multigigabit modeling of hi safe+ flying probe fp011Multigigabit modeling of hi safe+ flying probe fp011
Multigigabit modeling of hi safe+ flying probe fp011Piero Belforte
 
Cseltmuseum post records June 2018
Cseltmuseum post records June 2018Cseltmuseum post records June 2018
Cseltmuseum post records June 2018Piero Belforte
 
CSELTMUSEUM POST RECORDS MAY 2018
CSELTMUSEUM POST RECORDS MAY 2018CSELTMUSEUM POST RECORDS MAY 2018
CSELTMUSEUM POST RECORDS MAY 2018Piero Belforte
 
CSELTMUSEUM POST RECORDS APRIL 2018
CSELTMUSEUM POST RECORDS APRIL 2018CSELTMUSEUM POST RECORDS APRIL 2018
CSELTMUSEUM POST RECORDS APRIL 2018Piero Belforte
 
CSELTMUSEUM post records March_2018
CSELTMUSEUM  post records March_2018CSELTMUSEUM  post records March_2018
CSELTMUSEUM post records March_2018Piero Belforte
 
CSELTMUSEUM POST RECORDS FEBRUARY 2018
CSELTMUSEUM POST RECORDS FEBRUARY  2018CSELTMUSEUM POST RECORDS FEBRUARY  2018
CSELTMUSEUM POST RECORDS FEBRUARY 2018Piero Belforte
 
CSELTMUSEUM POST RECORDS JANUARY 2018
CSELTMUSEUM POST RECORDS JANUARY 2018CSELTMUSEUM POST RECORDS JANUARY 2018
CSELTMUSEUM POST RECORDS JANUARY 2018Piero Belforte
 
CSELTMUSEUM expanded post records, December 2017
CSELTMUSEUM expanded post records, December 2017CSELTMUSEUM expanded post records, December 2017
CSELTMUSEUM expanded post records, December 2017Piero Belforte
 
HDT (High Design Technology) related content on Cseltmuseum Dec. 13 2017
HDT (High Design Technology) related content on Cseltmuseum  Dec. 13 2017HDT (High Design Technology) related content on Cseltmuseum  Dec. 13 2017
HDT (High Design Technology) related content on Cseltmuseum Dec. 13 2017Piero Belforte
 
HiSAFE related content on Cseltmuseum Dec. 13 2017
HiSAFE related content on Cseltmuseum Dec. 13 2017 HiSAFE related content on Cseltmuseum Dec. 13 2017
HiSAFE related content on Cseltmuseum Dec. 13 2017 Piero Belforte
 
CSELTMUSEUM post record August to December 2017
 CSELTMUSEUM post record August to December 2017 CSELTMUSEUM post record August to December 2017
CSELTMUSEUM post record August to December 2017Piero Belforte
 
Piero Belforte related presentations on slideplayer.com july 12 2017
Piero Belforte related presentations on slideplayer.com july 12 2017Piero Belforte related presentations on slideplayer.com july 12 2017
Piero Belforte related presentations on slideplayer.com july 12 2017Piero Belforte
 
Collection of Cselt related presentations on slideplayer.com by_Piero_Belfort...
Collection of Cselt related presentations on slideplayer.com by_Piero_Belfort...Collection of Cselt related presentations on slideplayer.com by_Piero_Belfort...
Collection of Cselt related presentations on slideplayer.com by_Piero_Belfort...Piero Belforte
 

Plus de Piero Belforte (20)

Simulation-modeling matrix
Simulation-modeling matrixSimulation-modeling matrix
Simulation-modeling matrix
 
Frequency domain behavior of S-parameters piecewise-linear fitting in a digit...
Frequency domain behavior of S-parameters piecewise-linear fitting in a digit...Frequency domain behavior of S-parameters piecewise-linear fitting in a digit...
Frequency domain behavior of S-parameters piecewise-linear fitting in a digit...
 
3 experimental wideband_characterization_of_a parallel-plate_capacitor
3 experimental wideband_characterization_of_a parallel-plate_capacitor3 experimental wideband_characterization_of_a parallel-plate_capacitor
3 experimental wideband_characterization_of_a parallel-plate_capacitor
 
Automated Piecewise-Linear Fitting of S-Parameters step-response (PWLFIT) for...
Automated Piecewise-Linear Fitting of S-Parameters step-response (PWLFIT) for...Automated Piecewise-Linear Fitting of S-Parameters step-response (PWLFIT) for...
Automated Piecewise-Linear Fitting of S-Parameters step-response (PWLFIT) for...
 
Cseltmuseum post records from September 2018 to January2019
Cseltmuseum post records from September 2018 to January2019Cseltmuseum post records from September 2018 to January2019
Cseltmuseum post records from September 2018 to January2019
 
Cseltmuseum post records August2018
Cseltmuseum post records August2018Cseltmuseum post records August2018
Cseltmuseum post records August2018
 
Cseltmuseum post records July 2018
Cseltmuseum post records July 2018Cseltmuseum post records July 2018
Cseltmuseum post records July 2018
 
Multigigabit modeling of hi safe+ flying probe fp011
Multigigabit modeling of hi safe+ flying probe fp011Multigigabit modeling of hi safe+ flying probe fp011
Multigigabit modeling of hi safe+ flying probe fp011
 
Cseltmuseum post records June 2018
Cseltmuseum post records June 2018Cseltmuseum post records June 2018
Cseltmuseum post records June 2018
 
CSELTMUSEUM POST RECORDS MAY 2018
CSELTMUSEUM POST RECORDS MAY 2018CSELTMUSEUM POST RECORDS MAY 2018
CSELTMUSEUM POST RECORDS MAY 2018
 
CSELTMUSEUM POST RECORDS APRIL 2018
CSELTMUSEUM POST RECORDS APRIL 2018CSELTMUSEUM POST RECORDS APRIL 2018
CSELTMUSEUM POST RECORDS APRIL 2018
 
CSELTMUSEUM post records March_2018
CSELTMUSEUM  post records March_2018CSELTMUSEUM  post records March_2018
CSELTMUSEUM post records March_2018
 
CSELTMUSEUM POST RECORDS FEBRUARY 2018
CSELTMUSEUM POST RECORDS FEBRUARY  2018CSELTMUSEUM POST RECORDS FEBRUARY  2018
CSELTMUSEUM POST RECORDS FEBRUARY 2018
 
CSELTMUSEUM POST RECORDS JANUARY 2018
CSELTMUSEUM POST RECORDS JANUARY 2018CSELTMUSEUM POST RECORDS JANUARY 2018
CSELTMUSEUM POST RECORDS JANUARY 2018
 
CSELTMUSEUM expanded post records, December 2017
CSELTMUSEUM expanded post records, December 2017CSELTMUSEUM expanded post records, December 2017
CSELTMUSEUM expanded post records, December 2017
 
HDT (High Design Technology) related content on Cseltmuseum Dec. 13 2017
HDT (High Design Technology) related content on Cseltmuseum  Dec. 13 2017HDT (High Design Technology) related content on Cseltmuseum  Dec. 13 2017
HDT (High Design Technology) related content on Cseltmuseum Dec. 13 2017
 
HiSAFE related content on Cseltmuseum Dec. 13 2017
HiSAFE related content on Cseltmuseum Dec. 13 2017 HiSAFE related content on Cseltmuseum Dec. 13 2017
HiSAFE related content on Cseltmuseum Dec. 13 2017
 
CSELTMUSEUM post record August to December 2017
 CSELTMUSEUM post record August to December 2017 CSELTMUSEUM post record August to December 2017
CSELTMUSEUM post record August to December 2017
 
Piero Belforte related presentations on slideplayer.com july 12 2017
Piero Belforte related presentations on slideplayer.com july 12 2017Piero Belforte related presentations on slideplayer.com july 12 2017
Piero Belforte related presentations on slideplayer.com july 12 2017
 
Collection of Cselt related presentations on slideplayer.com by_Piero_Belfort...
Collection of Cselt related presentations on slideplayer.com by_Piero_Belfort...Collection of Cselt related presentations on slideplayer.com by_Piero_Belfort...
Collection of Cselt related presentations on slideplayer.com by_Piero_Belfort...
 

Dernier

Advanced Computer Architecture – An Introduction
Advanced Computer Architecture – An IntroductionAdvanced Computer Architecture – An Introduction
Advanced Computer Architecture – An IntroductionDilum Bandara
 
Merck Moving Beyond Passwords: FIDO Paris Seminar.pptx
Merck Moving Beyond Passwords: FIDO Paris Seminar.pptxMerck Moving Beyond Passwords: FIDO Paris Seminar.pptx
Merck Moving Beyond Passwords: FIDO Paris Seminar.pptxLoriGlavin3
 
H2O.ai CEO/Founder: Sri Ambati Keynote at Wells Fargo Day
H2O.ai CEO/Founder: Sri Ambati Keynote at Wells Fargo DayH2O.ai CEO/Founder: Sri Ambati Keynote at Wells Fargo Day
H2O.ai CEO/Founder: Sri Ambati Keynote at Wells Fargo DaySri Ambati
 
Vertex AI Gemini Prompt Engineering Tips
Vertex AI Gemini Prompt Engineering TipsVertex AI Gemini Prompt Engineering Tips
Vertex AI Gemini Prompt Engineering TipsMiki Katsuragi
 
"LLMs for Python Engineers: Advanced Data Analysis and Semantic Kernel",Oleks...
"LLMs for Python Engineers: Advanced Data Analysis and Semantic Kernel",Oleks..."LLMs for Python Engineers: Advanced Data Analysis and Semantic Kernel",Oleks...
"LLMs for Python Engineers: Advanced Data Analysis and Semantic Kernel",Oleks...Fwdays
 
Take control of your SAP testing with UiPath Test Suite
Take control of your SAP testing with UiPath Test SuiteTake control of your SAP testing with UiPath Test Suite
Take control of your SAP testing with UiPath Test SuiteDianaGray10
 
CloudStudio User manual (basic edition):
CloudStudio User manual (basic edition):CloudStudio User manual (basic edition):
CloudStudio User manual (basic edition):comworks
 
Tampa BSides - Chef's Tour of Microsoft Security Adoption Framework (SAF)
Tampa BSides - Chef's Tour of Microsoft Security Adoption Framework (SAF)Tampa BSides - Chef's Tour of Microsoft Security Adoption Framework (SAF)
Tampa BSides - Chef's Tour of Microsoft Security Adoption Framework (SAF)Mark Simos
 
Nell’iperspazio con Rocket: il Framework Web di Rust!
Nell’iperspazio con Rocket: il Framework Web di Rust!Nell’iperspazio con Rocket: il Framework Web di Rust!
Nell’iperspazio con Rocket: il Framework Web di Rust!Commit University
 
Anypoint Exchange: It’s Not Just a Repo!
Anypoint Exchange: It’s Not Just a Repo!Anypoint Exchange: It’s Not Just a Repo!
Anypoint Exchange: It’s Not Just a Repo!Manik S Magar
 
Unleash Your Potential - Namagunga Girls Coding Club
Unleash Your Potential - Namagunga Girls Coding ClubUnleash Your Potential - Namagunga Girls Coding Club
Unleash Your Potential - Namagunga Girls Coding ClubKalema Edgar
 
Unraveling Multimodality with Large Language Models.pdf
Unraveling Multimodality with Large Language Models.pdfUnraveling Multimodality with Large Language Models.pdf
Unraveling Multimodality with Large Language Models.pdfAlex Barbosa Coqueiro
 
Are Multi-Cloud and Serverless Good or Bad?
Are Multi-Cloud and Serverless Good or Bad?Are Multi-Cloud and Serverless Good or Bad?
Are Multi-Cloud and Serverless Good or Bad?Mattias Andersson
 
Powerpoint exploring the locations used in television show Time Clash
Powerpoint exploring the locations used in television show Time ClashPowerpoint exploring the locations used in television show Time Clash
Powerpoint exploring the locations used in television show Time Clashcharlottematthew16
 
Dev Dives: Streamline document processing with UiPath Studio Web
Dev Dives: Streamline document processing with UiPath Studio WebDev Dives: Streamline document processing with UiPath Studio Web
Dev Dives: Streamline document processing with UiPath Studio WebUiPathCommunity
 
Ensuring Technical Readiness For Copilot in Microsoft 365
Ensuring Technical Readiness For Copilot in Microsoft 365Ensuring Technical Readiness For Copilot in Microsoft 365
Ensuring Technical Readiness For Copilot in Microsoft 3652toLead Limited
 
How to write a Business Continuity Plan
How to write a Business Continuity PlanHow to write a Business Continuity Plan
How to write a Business Continuity PlanDatabarracks
 
DevEX - reference for building teams, processes, and platforms
DevEX - reference for building teams, processes, and platformsDevEX - reference for building teams, processes, and platforms
DevEX - reference for building teams, processes, and platformsSergiu Bodiu
 
TrustArc Webinar - How to Build Consumer Trust Through Data Privacy
TrustArc Webinar - How to Build Consumer Trust Through Data PrivacyTrustArc Webinar - How to Build Consumer Trust Through Data Privacy
TrustArc Webinar - How to Build Consumer Trust Through Data PrivacyTrustArc
 

Dernier (20)

Advanced Computer Architecture – An Introduction
Advanced Computer Architecture – An IntroductionAdvanced Computer Architecture – An Introduction
Advanced Computer Architecture – An Introduction
 
Merck Moving Beyond Passwords: FIDO Paris Seminar.pptx
Merck Moving Beyond Passwords: FIDO Paris Seminar.pptxMerck Moving Beyond Passwords: FIDO Paris Seminar.pptx
Merck Moving Beyond Passwords: FIDO Paris Seminar.pptx
 
H2O.ai CEO/Founder: Sri Ambati Keynote at Wells Fargo Day
H2O.ai CEO/Founder: Sri Ambati Keynote at Wells Fargo DayH2O.ai CEO/Founder: Sri Ambati Keynote at Wells Fargo Day
H2O.ai CEO/Founder: Sri Ambati Keynote at Wells Fargo Day
 
Vertex AI Gemini Prompt Engineering Tips
Vertex AI Gemini Prompt Engineering TipsVertex AI Gemini Prompt Engineering Tips
Vertex AI Gemini Prompt Engineering Tips
 
"LLMs for Python Engineers: Advanced Data Analysis and Semantic Kernel",Oleks...
"LLMs for Python Engineers: Advanced Data Analysis and Semantic Kernel",Oleks..."LLMs for Python Engineers: Advanced Data Analysis and Semantic Kernel",Oleks...
"LLMs for Python Engineers: Advanced Data Analysis and Semantic Kernel",Oleks...
 
Take control of your SAP testing with UiPath Test Suite
Take control of your SAP testing with UiPath Test SuiteTake control of your SAP testing with UiPath Test Suite
Take control of your SAP testing with UiPath Test Suite
 
CloudStudio User manual (basic edition):
CloudStudio User manual (basic edition):CloudStudio User manual (basic edition):
CloudStudio User manual (basic edition):
 
Tampa BSides - Chef's Tour of Microsoft Security Adoption Framework (SAF)
Tampa BSides - Chef's Tour of Microsoft Security Adoption Framework (SAF)Tampa BSides - Chef's Tour of Microsoft Security Adoption Framework (SAF)
Tampa BSides - Chef's Tour of Microsoft Security Adoption Framework (SAF)
 
Nell’iperspazio con Rocket: il Framework Web di Rust!
Nell’iperspazio con Rocket: il Framework Web di Rust!Nell’iperspazio con Rocket: il Framework Web di Rust!
Nell’iperspazio con Rocket: il Framework Web di Rust!
 
Anypoint Exchange: It’s Not Just a Repo!
Anypoint Exchange: It’s Not Just a Repo!Anypoint Exchange: It’s Not Just a Repo!
Anypoint Exchange: It’s Not Just a Repo!
 
Unleash Your Potential - Namagunga Girls Coding Club
Unleash Your Potential - Namagunga Girls Coding ClubUnleash Your Potential - Namagunga Girls Coding Club
Unleash Your Potential - Namagunga Girls Coding Club
 
Unraveling Multimodality with Large Language Models.pdf
Unraveling Multimodality with Large Language Models.pdfUnraveling Multimodality with Large Language Models.pdf
Unraveling Multimodality with Large Language Models.pdf
 
DMCC Future of Trade Web3 - Special Edition
DMCC Future of Trade Web3 - Special EditionDMCC Future of Trade Web3 - Special Edition
DMCC Future of Trade Web3 - Special Edition
 
Are Multi-Cloud and Serverless Good or Bad?
Are Multi-Cloud and Serverless Good or Bad?Are Multi-Cloud and Serverless Good or Bad?
Are Multi-Cloud and Serverless Good or Bad?
 
Powerpoint exploring the locations used in television show Time Clash
Powerpoint exploring the locations used in television show Time ClashPowerpoint exploring the locations used in television show Time Clash
Powerpoint exploring the locations used in television show Time Clash
 
Dev Dives: Streamline document processing with UiPath Studio Web
Dev Dives: Streamline document processing with UiPath Studio WebDev Dives: Streamline document processing with UiPath Studio Web
Dev Dives: Streamline document processing with UiPath Studio Web
 
Ensuring Technical Readiness For Copilot in Microsoft 365
Ensuring Technical Readiness For Copilot in Microsoft 365Ensuring Technical Readiness For Copilot in Microsoft 365
Ensuring Technical Readiness For Copilot in Microsoft 365
 
How to write a Business Continuity Plan
How to write a Business Continuity PlanHow to write a Business Continuity Plan
How to write a Business Continuity Plan
 
DevEX - reference for building teams, processes, and platforms
DevEX - reference for building teams, processes, and platformsDevEX - reference for building teams, processes, and platforms
DevEX - reference for building teams, processes, and platforms
 
TrustArc Webinar - How to Build Consumer Trust Through Data Privacy
TrustArc Webinar - How to Build Consumer Trust Through Data PrivacyTrustArc Webinar - How to Build Consumer Trust Through Data Privacy
TrustArc Webinar - How to Build Consumer Trust Through Data Privacy
 

2009 pb dws_multigigabit_models_of_lossy_coupled_lines

  • 1. MULTIGIGABIT MODELS FOR COUPLED LINES by Piero Belforte dec. 2009 Method for quick and accurate multigigabit model extraction of coupled line pairs using TDR measures and DWS simulations 20/12/2009 Copyright Piero Belforte 1
  • 2. TARGETS: • Mininum experimental setup effort • Fast measurements using TDR only • Minumum number of required measurements • Maximum efficiency of extracted models • No numerical stability problems • Possibly Time-Domain only 20/12/2009 Copyright Piero Belforte 2
  • 3. CHOSEN SOLUTIONS ONE-PORT only TDR measurements OTHER PORTS LEFT OPEN MODEL BEHAVIORAL DESCRIPTION PWL S-PARAMETERS DESCRIPTION MAXIMUM 3-POINT PWL DWS for MODEL SIMULATION 2D SOLVER to get STARTING LOSSLESS MODEL MODEL PARAMETERS FOUND AS OPTIMUM MATCH WITH MEASURES OF the WHOLE SETUP 20/12/2009 Copyright Piero Belforte 3
  • 4. TEST VEHICULE • COUPLED MICROSTRIP PAIR • FR4 SUBSTRATE H=1.4mm • Length=136mm W=140um S=394um (Center) • ACCESS THROUGH VIA HOLES and 60um PADS 20/12/2009 Copyright Piero Belforte 4
  • 5. VIA HOLES and PADS • 60 mils (1520 um)square pad • 50 mils (1270 um) via diameter • Dielectric (FR4) height H=1400um • Very large compared to coupled pair 20/12/2009 Copyright Piero Belforte 5
  • 6. Full Ideal Setup • No Vias, No TDR parasitics, Ideal lossless lines • Mode data from 2D Field Solver • COMMON MODE: TD=891.4 ps • DIFFERENTIAL MODE: TD=710.9 ps 20/12/2009 Copyright Piero Belforte 6
  • 7. Ideal (Lossless model) from 2D Field Solver (DWS description) Modal Adaptors Lossless Modal Transmission Lines Voltage EigenVectors Matrix (2X2) This model is inserted as first order approximation in the DWS TDR setup description . 20/12/2009 Copyright Piero Belforte 7
  • 8. PSEUDO-DIFFERENTIAL SETUP • TDR connected at port #1 • Remaining ports left open 1 3 4 2 20/12/2009 Copyright Piero Belforte 8
  • 9. COMMON MODE SETUP Ports #1 and #2 connected together Ports #3 and #4 left open TDR at ports #1 and #2 1 3 2 20/12/2009 Copyright Piero Belforte 9
  • 10. Full Ideal Setup:Simulation Results Common mode setup Pseudo- differential setup 2xDeltaTD=360ps 20/12/2009 Copyright Piero Belforte 10
  • 11. Ideal Pseudo-diff vs Measure 20/12/2009 Copyright Piero Belforte 11
  • 12. Ideal Common mode vs Measure (Window 6ns) 20/12/2009 Copyright Piero Belforte 12
  • 13. Common mode TDR Lossless Model Actual measure The differences between the actual measure and the lossless model 20/12/2009 Copyright Piero Belforte 13 are outlined in yellow
  • 14. Ideal Near-end Xtalk vs Measure (Window 5ns) 20/12/2009 Copyright Piero Belforte 14
  • 15. Adding Vias and parasitics • Models of Vias and setup parasitics (Launch cable tip and common mode connection) are extracted by means of TDR measures. • The extracted models are the inserted in the setup simulation model to evaluate their effect on overall DUT response 20/12/2009 Copyright Piero Belforte 15
  • 16. TDR cable tip model • The effects of TDR semi-rigid launch cable are not negligible and have to be taken into account • The unshielded tip of the cable has a major discontinuity contribution on TDR response • An accurate model can be derived from an actual TDR measure of a grounded tip Semi-rigid coax. 1.8mm Outer Diameter. Unshielded PTFE dielectric Center conductor (diameter= .3mm) Via and pad Microstrip end 20/12/2009 Copyright Piero Belforte 16
  • 17. Model of TDR Cable tip • A LCR DWS model of the tip is extracted from the measure of the grounded tip • The model parameters are optimized to get the best match between measure and simulation 20/12/2009 Copyright Piero Belforte 17
  • 18. Pad and via model • From the TDR response of an open via a circuital model is extracted by optimization of the model response The TDR launch cable tip is also taken into account 20/12/2009 Copyright Piero Belforte 18
  • 19. Optimized model response vs actual measure 20/12/2009 Copyright Piero Belforte 19
  • 20. Via and pad DWS optimized model description • The model is described as DWS subcircuit (stub TL with radiation losses and RC lumped load to gnd) 20/12/2009 Copyright Piero Belforte 20
  • 21. Adding Vias and parasitics • The previous models of Vias and setup parasitics (Launch cable tip and common mode connection) are added to the whole simulation model including the lossless modal description of the coupled pair. 20/12/2009 Copyright Piero Belforte 21
  • 22. Pseudo Differential TDR: results 3 4 2 Model Simulation Actual TDR 1 Measure Several differences can be still pointed out between this model 20/12/2009 Copyright Piero Belforte 22 and the actual measure
  • 23. Adding losses and adjusting DUT model parameters Losses are added to the DWS simulation model of the DUT. A simplified Behavioral model of both even and odd modes is used instead of lossless trasmission lines. A three point PWL description of S21 is used to model losses. The S11 is assumed ideal. The coordinates of S21 PWL description are optimized to match the measurement results . The mode impedances and propagation delay times are also optimized to match the actual measure. The optimization procedure is applied to both measurement setups (pseudo- differential and common configurations with all other ports left open). In this way a true de-embedding of coupled line parameters is performed because all other setup effects are taken into account in the DWS netlist. To check the results a near-end crosstalk simulation is performed and compared to the actual measure. 20/12/2009 Copyright Piero Belforte 23
  • 24. Coupled pair lossless DWS model using Bimodal adaptors 20/12/2009 Copyright Piero Belforte 24
  • 25. Adding setup effects and losses(1) 20/12/2009 Copyright Piero Belforte 25
  • 26. Adding setup effects and losses (2) 20/12/2009 Copyright Piero Belforte 26
  • 27. Coupled pair lossy DWS model: optimized results 20/12/2009 Copyright Piero Belforte 27
  • 28. Checking the near-end crosstalk: setup 20/12/2009 Copyright Piero Belforte 28
  • 29. Checking the Near-end crosstalk:model vs measure 20/12/2009 Copyright Piero Belforte 29
  • 30. TraceAnalyzer: input configuration 20/12/2009 Copyright Piero Belforte 30
  • 31. TraceAnalyzer: results 20/12/2009 Copyright Piero Belforte 31
  • 32. Results comparison Z0e (ohms) Z0o (ohms) TDe (ps) Tdo(ps) Trace Analyzer From crossection 217 79.87 755 688 data DWS meas. based 190 64 725 675 optimization 20/12/2009 Copyright Piero Belforte 32
  • 33. De-embedding setup and via effects 21/12/2009 Copyright Piero Belforte 33
  • 34. De-embedded model: effect of losses on reflected edge rise time 21/12/2009 Copyright Piero Belforte 34
  • 35. TLineSim results for a single line: effect of losses on the reflected edge 21/12/2009 Copyright Piero Belforte 35