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Livable St. Louis Conference 2012
                            Bold Community Visions
Gary Toth                         Trailnet
Project for Public Spaces
                                  October 26, 2012
34 years at the New Jersey Department of Transportation
5 Years Director of Transportation Initiatives at PPS
Invested Career working at the community/agency interface
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Is this the legacy that we want to
         leave for our children?




                               PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
Slide courtesy of Dan Burden
We have been Building Transportation Through
Communities, not communities through transportation




                                     PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
 Slide courtesy of Dan Burden
Pre-Automobile Era
   Street design HAD to accommodate all users
   Relationship of land use to streets was critical for survival




                                                   PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
Pre-Automobile Era
   City streets served as public places for economic and social
    interaction




                                               PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
Streets used to have many purposes




Street design HAD to accommodate all users
                                         PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
Pieces of Community related to each other




                                PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
Graphic courtesy of Andy Singer
                                  PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
The Automobile Age
   The mobility provided by the automobile removed the need
    for those exchanges to be made in compact, mixed use
    cities and towns
   Once we could drive to access goods, employment,
    education and recreation, we were free to locate those
    uses in distant and specialized locations…and we did




                                             PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
Slide courtesy of Barbara Lawrence, NJ Future

The needs of the motoring public supersede all other contexts
                                                       PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
We stopped viewing Streets as Places




                           PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
Building communities
 is not our business




        PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
Focus on high speed
                                          Speed / Proximity Balance
                                          •Speed necessary at region and above
                                                       mobility
                                          •Proximity viable option in sub-region


     Proximity




                                                                                Speed



                                                 Accessibility


Slide Courtesy of Chris Sinclair, Renaissance Planning Group
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Slide courtesy of Ian Lockwood, Glatting Jackson
A successful street?




                  PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
Is This a Successful Street?




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Is this Sustainable?




                   PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
Slide courtesy of Tim Jackson, Glatting Jackson


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So what do we do?




                PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
Building Community Through
Transportation: Streets as Places
Two Steps to Fully Complete Our Streets
   Reallocate space and adjust speeds
   Address Land Use and Placemaking!


                                     PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
Complete Streets




    AARP Bulletin

                     A Complete Street is safe, comfortable &
                     convenient for travel by automobile, foot,
                    bicycle, & transit regardless of age or ability


                                           PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
Traditional Highway Design Approach

Traffic Volume + Area Type (urban, rural) + Role in Network



                 Functional Classification



             Design Speed + Design Vehicle



   Alignment + Cross-Section + Intersection + Roadside



                                             PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
Complete Streets
An Approach for Accomodating All Users


              Cars          Bikes            Buses


Pedestrians                                         Trucks/freight




      Alignment + Cross-Section + Intersection + Roadside




                                               PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
Two Steps to Fully Complete Our Streets
   Reallocate space and adjust speeds
   Address Land Use and Placemaking!


                                     PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
Is this a Complete Street?




                     PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
Is this a Complete Street?




                     PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
Two Steps to Fully Complete Our Streets


    Reallocate space and adjust speeds
    Address Land Use and Placemaking!
                                      PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
Proposed x-section alternatives on Foothill Blvd – S side




soft-surface trail section curb to median bike andlane lane
 Sidewalk ½Sidewalk, Sidewalk and south (school) side
     Sidewalk            Soft surface trail and bike bike
                              landscape buffer, lane
                  shy zone
                   shy zone
                    shy zone
    planting                                                      13’
                        6’ 18’ 11’
                        6’
                         6’    11’         11.5’
                                           11.5’
                                                             median/CTL
                                                             median/CTL
                                                              median/CTL
                                                     PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
            new curb bike travel travel
          new curb
           new curb   bike
                       bike       travel   travel
                                            travel
2nd Avenue, South                                       PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
                    Photomorph courtesy of Dan Burden
Cahaba Road                                       PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
              Photomorph courtesy of Dan Burden
“This plan lays out a vision for New
                                                York City of improved mobility, safer
                                                streets and reduced impact on global
                                                climate, all resulting in a world class
                                                quality of life.”

                                                         Safety
                                                         Mobility
                                                         World Class Streets
                                                         Infrastructure
                                                         Greening
                                                         Global Leadership
                                                         Customer Service

April, 2008
Sustainable Streets Strategic Plan                                  PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES

http://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/html/about/stratplan.shtml
Images: NYC DOT Presentation to Manhattan CB8,                      PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
http://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/html/about/currentproj.shtml#complete
Flushing Ave, Brooklyn       9th Ave, Manhattan




                                              PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
Lower East Side, Manhattan   Smith Street, Brooklyn
West Side Highway, Manhattan   Queens Boulevard, Queens




                                               PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
Prospect Park West, Brooklyn    Sands Street, Brooklyn
Prospect Park West




        before                                     after


Image: NYC DOT                                                 PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
http://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/html/bicyclists/prospectparkwest.shtml
PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
Prospect Park West, Brooklyn, NY
Long Beach
Connecting the Downtown via Complete
               Streets




                          PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
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Philadelphia Connecting the Downtown
        via Complete Streets




                Pine Street
                              PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
Philadelphia Connecting the Downtown
        via Complete Streets




               Spruce Street
Philadelphia Connecting the Downtown
        via Complete Streets




                Pine Street
Philadelphia Connecting the Downtown
        via Complete Streets




                Pine Street
Is this a Complete Street?




                     PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
A Complete Street is safe, comfortable &
convenient for travel by automobile, foot,
  bicycle, & transit regardless of age or
                   ability

                                      PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
Complete Streets
An Approach for Accomodating All Users


              Cars          Bikes            Buses


Pedestrians                                         Trucks/freight




      Alignment + Cross-Section + Intersection + Roadside




                                               PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
Placed Based Approach

               Corridor/Community


                     Place


                   Roadway


Traveled Way     Intersections          Roadside

                                    PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
Made possible by funding from the Department of Health and Human Services through the Los Angeles County Department of Public Health.   PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
Two Steps to Fully Complete Our Streets

   Reallocate space and adjust speeds
   Address Land Use and Placemaking!
                                     PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
Characteristics of
 Streets as Places:


Design street elements
and adjacent buildings
for the human scale


Balances the going and
staying needs of users


Support and encourage
activities and
destinations

 PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
Characteristics of
 Streets as Places:


Provide a feeling of
safety


Invite activities on both
sides of the street


Reward slow
movement by lowering
speeds

 PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
Characteristics of
Streets as Places:


Reflect community
identity


Move community
towards local
sustainability


Show a sense of
ownership




  PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
Principles
                   • Compactness, connectivity, completeness & continuity

            • Buildings should complete “the outdoor room” of the street

                                                          • Provide a mix of land uses




                                                                                          Outdoor room
                                                                                          Outdoor room
                                                                                           of the street
                                                                                            of the street




Made possible by funding from the Department of Health and Human Services through the Los Angeles County Department of Public Health.
Distribute land uses for easy access from homes & jobs
                             • Create social spaces where generations can mix

         • Ground floors should be active and transparent on commercial
                                     streets




Made possible by funding from the Department of Health and Human Services through the Los Angeles County Department of Public Health.
• Ground floors should allow for privacy while layering landscape, and
                     outdoor spaces on residential streets
         • Setbacks will vary based on the street type and land use
     • Make the land use changes necessary with specific plans or other
             tools to reinforce the places the community desires




Made possible by funding from the Department of Health and Human Services through the Los Angeles County Department of Public Health.
Photomorph courtesy of Dan Burden   PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
Transforming ‘Gasoline Alley’
     Medians and pedestrian improvements




                      Slide courtesy of Harrison Rue and ICF International
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                                               PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
Transforming ‘Gasoline Alley’
     Continue public improvements




                      Slide courtesy of Harrison Rue and ICF International
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Transforming ‘Gasoline Alley’
       Mixed-use infill development




                 Slide courtesy of Harrison Rue and ICF International
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                                          PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
Transforming ‘Gasoline Alley’
     Continue infill development




                       Slide courtesy of Harrison Rue and ICF International
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                                                PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
Transforming ‘Gasoline Alley’
     Landscape matures over time




                      Slide courtesy of Harrison Rue and ICF International
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                                               PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
Transforming ‘Gasoline Alley’
     Add transit service as market grows




                       Slide courtesy of Harrison Rue and ICF International
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                                                PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
State Route 27 Edison, NJ




                       PROJECT FOR PUBLICSPACES
                         PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
What is Placemaking?
What is Placemaking?
   Placemaking is a dynamic human function: it
    is an act of liberation, of staking claim, and
    of beautification; it is true human
    empowerment.
   Placemaking is turning a neighborhood, town
    or city from a place you can’t wait to get
    through to one you never want to leave.


                                     PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
“Placemaking” is an overarching idea
 and a hands-on tool for improving a
 Neighborhood, City or Region . It
 has the potential to be one of the most
 transformative ideas of this century
             Metropolitan Planning Council
Social public spaces “are built of a set
of basics…”
   Food
   Seating
   Triangulation
   Sun/Shade
   Places to People Watch
   …it doesn’t take much…



                               PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
Key Attributes

What Makes a Great Place?                                     Intangibles
                                                              Measurements

          street life                     business ownership
          evening use                      property values
          volunteerism                     land-use patterns
                                        Fun          retail sales
                        Welcoming
                    Cooperative        Active Vital
                Neighborly                  Special Real

             sociability               uses & activities
                               PLACE
  access & linkages                    comfort & image
          Connected                             Safe
             Walkable                         Charm Clean
               Convenient                      Attractive
               Accessible                 Historic          crime stats
 transit usage                                         sanitation rating
 pedestrian activity                                    building conditions
 parking usage patterns                                environmental data
The Benefits of Places-Place Governance
                                            Nurtures & Defines Community
    Builds & Supports the                     Identity                       Fosters More Frequent &
    Local Economy                           • Greater community organization Meaningful Interaction
                                            • Sense of dedication & volunteerism        • Improved sociability
•   Small-scale entrepreneurship            • Perpetuation of integrity & values        • Cultural exposure & interaction
•   More quality goods available            • “Mutual coercion, mutually agreed-upon”   • Exchange & preservation of information,
•   Higher real estate values               • Reduced necessity for municipal control     wisdom & values
•   Local ownership, local value            • Self-managing                             • Bolstered barter system
•   More desirable jobs
                                                                                        • Reduced race & class barriers
•   Increased currency velocity
                                                                                        • Feeling of interconnection
•   Greater tax revenue
•   Reduced need for municipal services


                                                    Place                                 Draws a More Diverse
                                                                                          Population
      Creates Improved                                                                   • More women, elderly, and children
      Accessibility                                                                      • Greater ethnic & cultural pluralism
     • More walkable                            Promotes Public Health                   • Support for wider range of activities & uses
                                                                                         • New service, retail and customer niches
     • Safe for pedestrians
     • Compatible with public transit           & Comfort                                • Variation & character in built environment
                                               • Less crime                              • Instilled confidence to create one’s reality
     • Reduced need for cars & parking
     • More efficient use of time & money      • More outdoor physical activity
     • Visually attractive destinations        • Generally stimulating
     • Greater connections between uses        • Sense of belonging
                                               • Improved environmental quality
                                               • Feeling of freedom and limitlessness
Communities Today

     Offices                 Churches

                  Hospital               Theatres/
Coffee
                                         Museums
Shops
                        Community
         Parks            Center
                                           Transit
                 Libraries
  Schools                    City Hall
Sustainable Communities
         of the Future
                 Churches     Schools
     City Hall                          Community
                                         Centers

Libraries
           Civic Squares
        Community Gathering                  Theatres/
                                             Museums
   Coffee  Spaces/Parks
    Shops
                                        Offices
            Hospitals       Transit
Local Placemaking Opportunities
                      Main Streets
Transportation &      Local streets and roads
Downtowns             Bus stops
                      Train Stations
                      Parks (greenways, recreation, play areas)
Parks & Squares       Plazas & squares (performances, events)
                      Markets
                      Waterfronts
                      Libraries and hospitals
Civic Institutions    Civic buildings
                      Schools (universities, primary schools)
                      Religious institutions
                      Cultural institutions (theaters, museums)
Private development   Mixed-use – housing, retail and office
Why don’t we have better
              Public Spaces today?
                      • Fear
• Narrow Development Goals
   • Project-driven vs. Place-
              driven Planning
          • Discipline-Based
         Planning/Design vs.
           Community-Based
                 Placemaking
    • Government Structure
Blank walls are an end in themselves. They declare the
   supremacy of architecture over humanity, of a building
                                           over a person.




Museum of Modern Art - NYC
Benches are artifacts, the purpose of which is to punctuate
architectural photographs. They are not so good for sitting.
“What attracts people most it would appear,
                            is other people.”
One of the best things about water is the look and feel
of it…It’s not right to put water before people and then
keep them away from it.
If you want to seed a place with activity,
                               put out food.
If no one wants to go
out to the Park, no one
is going to stop them.
         ─ Yogi Berra
It’s hard for people to realize that creating a place is
more important than design. ─ PPS
Project/Discipline Driven Approach
Each profession has
become its own
audience.
  -Pope Coleman
When you focus on a place,
you do everything differently
Community/Place Driven Approach
11 Principles of Creating Great Public Spaces

                         1. The community is the expert

Underlying Ideas         2. You are creating a place not just a design
                         3. You can’t do it alone
                         4. They always say it can’t be done
Planning & Outreach      5. You can see a lot just by observing
Techniques               6. Develop a placemaking vision
Translating Ideas Into   7.   Power of 10/Triangulation
Action                   8. Form supports function
                         9. Lighter, Quicker, Cheaper
Implementation           10. Money is not the issue
                         11. You are never finished
Place Based Transportation Process

   Destination Mapping aka Power of Ten
   Route Mapping aka Connectivity Exercise
   Place Audits
   Street Audits
   Lighter Quicker Cheaper Interventions
The Power of Ten
Region/City/Town/N
   eighborhood        10+ destinations


    Destinations             10+ places


                      10+ things to do
        Place

                     Layering of uses to create
                     synergy (Triangulation) =
                             District
Place Map App - Opportunities
San Antonio- NPR Partnership
Singapore - 10 Sites




            PROJECT
Route Mapping
Route Mapping
Dun Laoghaire, Ireland
Connectivity Barriers
Brighton Boulevard Denver
Place and Street Audits
Lighter, Quicker, Cheaper
 Activation Events
 Comfort, Amenities & Public Art

 Interim Public Spaces

 Light Development




                                    PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
Power of Ten in Harvard Yard
The South Fence - Connection to Harvard Yard




                                 PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
The “Great Lawn”




               PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
The “Piazza”




   PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
Power of Ten                                7. Entrance to the Science Center
        1. Gateway between the Plaza and    8. Tanner Fountain
        Harvard Yard                        9. Library Arcade
        2. The South Fence and connection   10. NE Plaza Entrance
        to Harvard Yard                     11. Loker Bar and Beer Garden
        3. NW Plaza Entrance                12. Memorial Walk
        4. The “Great Lawn”                 13. Main Walkway
        5. Science Center Outdoor Terrace   14. Overlooks
        6. The “Piazza”




                                                      PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
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6 Weeks Later


          PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
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Better Blocks Philadelphia
      October, 2011




                      PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
Better Blocks Philadelphia
      October, 2011




                      PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
Better Blocks Philadelphia
      October, 2011




                      PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
Better Blocks Philadelphia
      October, 2011




                      PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
Market Street Philadelphia
    November, 2011




                      PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
Plaza Experiment




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Rockwell Avenue, Cleveland
    Pop up Bike Lane
Rockwell Avenue, Cleveland
    Pop up Bike Lane
Rockwell Avenue, Cleveland
    Pop up Bike Lane
PROJECT FOR PUBLICSPACES
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Levels of Service
The Wrong Tools for Urban Streets?




                             PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
Levels of Service
The Wrong Tools for Urban Streets?




                    Text




     www.pps.org/
                             PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
We have been planning the
  pieces not the whole




                    Slide Courtesy of John Nordquist, CNU
No One Sees the Big Picture




Slide courtesy of Leigh Lane
A successful street?
A successful street?
A successful building?
A successful community?
Upside Down Planning
                Placed Based Approach


               Corridor/Community


                     Place


Architecture       Roadways             Buildings


 Parking          Institutions           Markets
http://www.pps.org/pdf/bookstore/How_to_Engage_Your_Transportation_Agency_AARP.pdf


                   Gary Toth
                   Director of Transportation Initiatives
                   Project for Public Spaces
                   609-397-3885
                   Gtoth@pps.org

                                                            PROJECT FOR PUBLICSPACES
                                                              PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES

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Livable St. Louis Conference 2012 Bold Community Visions

  • 1. Livable St. Louis Conference 2012 Bold Community Visions Gary Toth Trailnet Project for Public Spaces October 26, 2012
  • 2. 34 years at the New Jersey Department of Transportation 5 Years Director of Transportation Initiatives at PPS Invested Career working at the community/agency interface PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES 2
  • 3. Is this the legacy that we want to leave for our children? PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES Slide courtesy of Dan Burden
  • 4. We have been Building Transportation Through Communities, not communities through transportation PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES Slide courtesy of Dan Burden
  • 5. Pre-Automobile Era  Street design HAD to accommodate all users  Relationship of land use to streets was critical for survival PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 6. Pre-Automobile Era  City streets served as public places for economic and social interaction PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 7. Streets used to have many purposes Street design HAD to accommodate all users PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 8. Pieces of Community related to each other PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 9. Graphic courtesy of Andy Singer PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 10. The Automobile Age  The mobility provided by the automobile removed the need for those exchanges to be made in compact, mixed use cities and towns  Once we could drive to access goods, employment, education and recreation, we were free to locate those uses in distant and specialized locations…and we did PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 11. Slide courtesy of Barbara Lawrence, NJ Future The needs of the motoring public supersede all other contexts PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 12. We stopped viewing Streets as Places PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 13. Building communities is not our business PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 14. Focus on high speed Speed / Proximity Balance •Speed necessary at region and above mobility •Proximity viable option in sub-region Proximity Speed Accessibility Slide Courtesy of Chris Sinclair, Renaissance Planning Group PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 15. PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES Slide courtesy of Ian Lockwood, Glatting Jackson
  • 16. A successful street? PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 17. Is This a Successful Street? PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 18. Is this Sustainable? PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 19. Slide courtesy of Tim Jackson, Glatting Jackson PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 20. So what do we do? PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 22. Two Steps to Fully Complete Our Streets  Reallocate space and adjust speeds  Address Land Use and Placemaking! PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 23. Complete Streets AARP Bulletin A Complete Street is safe, comfortable & convenient for travel by automobile, foot, bicycle, & transit regardless of age or ability PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 24. Traditional Highway Design Approach Traffic Volume + Area Type (urban, rural) + Role in Network Functional Classification Design Speed + Design Vehicle Alignment + Cross-Section + Intersection + Roadside PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 25. Complete Streets An Approach for Accomodating All Users Cars Bikes Buses Pedestrians Trucks/freight Alignment + Cross-Section + Intersection + Roadside PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 26. Two Steps to Fully Complete Our Streets  Reallocate space and adjust speeds  Address Land Use and Placemaking! PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 27. Is this a Complete Street? PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 28. Is this a Complete Street? PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 29. Two Steps to Fully Complete Our Streets  Reallocate space and adjust speeds  Address Land Use and Placemaking! PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 30. Proposed x-section alternatives on Foothill Blvd – S side soft-surface trail section curb to median bike andlane lane Sidewalk ½Sidewalk, Sidewalk and south (school) side Sidewalk Soft surface trail and bike bike landscape buffer, lane shy zone shy zone shy zone planting 13’ 6’ 18’ 11’ 6’ 6’ 11’ 11.5’ 11.5’ median/CTL median/CTL median/CTL PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES new curb bike travel travel new curb new curb bike bike travel travel travel
  • 31. 2nd Avenue, South PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES Photomorph courtesy of Dan Burden
  • 32. Cahaba Road PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES Photomorph courtesy of Dan Burden
  • 33. “This plan lays out a vision for New York City of improved mobility, safer streets and reduced impact on global climate, all resulting in a world class quality of life.” Safety Mobility World Class Streets Infrastructure Greening Global Leadership Customer Service April, 2008 Sustainable Streets Strategic Plan PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES http://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/html/about/stratplan.shtml
  • 34. Images: NYC DOT Presentation to Manhattan CB8, PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES http://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/html/about/currentproj.shtml#complete
  • 35. Flushing Ave, Brooklyn 9th Ave, Manhattan PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES Lower East Side, Manhattan Smith Street, Brooklyn
  • 36. West Side Highway, Manhattan Queens Boulevard, Queens PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES Prospect Park West, Brooklyn Sands Street, Brooklyn
  • 37. Prospect Park West before after Image: NYC DOT PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES http://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/html/bicyclists/prospectparkwest.shtml
  • 38. PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES Prospect Park West, Brooklyn, NY
  • 39. Long Beach Connecting the Downtown via Complete Streets PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 45. Philadelphia Connecting the Downtown via Complete Streets Pine Street PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 46. Philadelphia Connecting the Downtown via Complete Streets Spruce Street
  • 47. Philadelphia Connecting the Downtown via Complete Streets Pine Street
  • 48. Philadelphia Connecting the Downtown via Complete Streets Pine Street
  • 49. Is this a Complete Street? PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 50. A Complete Street is safe, comfortable & convenient for travel by automobile, foot, bicycle, & transit regardless of age or ability PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 51. Complete Streets An Approach for Accomodating All Users Cars Bikes Buses Pedestrians Trucks/freight Alignment + Cross-Section + Intersection + Roadside PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 52. Placed Based Approach Corridor/Community Place Roadway Traveled Way Intersections Roadside PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 53. Made possible by funding from the Department of Health and Human Services through the Los Angeles County Department of Public Health. PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 54. Two Steps to Fully Complete Our Streets  Reallocate space and adjust speeds  Address Land Use and Placemaking! PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 55. Characteristics of Streets as Places: Design street elements and adjacent buildings for the human scale Balances the going and staying needs of users Support and encourage activities and destinations PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 56. Characteristics of Streets as Places: Provide a feeling of safety Invite activities on both sides of the street Reward slow movement by lowering speeds PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 57. Characteristics of Streets as Places: Reflect community identity Move community towards local sustainability Show a sense of ownership PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 58. Principles • Compactness, connectivity, completeness & continuity • Buildings should complete “the outdoor room” of the street • Provide a mix of land uses Outdoor room Outdoor room of the street of the street Made possible by funding from the Department of Health and Human Services through the Los Angeles County Department of Public Health.
  • 59. Distribute land uses for easy access from homes & jobs • Create social spaces where generations can mix • Ground floors should be active and transparent on commercial streets Made possible by funding from the Department of Health and Human Services through the Los Angeles County Department of Public Health.
  • 60. • Ground floors should allow for privacy while layering landscape, and outdoor spaces on residential streets • Setbacks will vary based on the street type and land use • Make the land use changes necessary with specific plans or other tools to reinforce the places the community desires Made possible by funding from the Department of Health and Human Services through the Los Angeles County Department of Public Health.
  • 61. Photomorph courtesy of Dan Burden PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 62. Transforming ‘Gasoline Alley’ Medians and pedestrian improvements Slide courtesy of Harrison Rue and ICF International 34 PROJECT FOR PUBLICSPACES PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 63. Transforming ‘Gasoline Alley’ Continue public improvements Slide courtesy of Harrison Rue and ICF International 35 PROJECT FOR PUBLICSPACES PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 64. Transforming ‘Gasoline Alley’ Mixed-use infill development Slide courtesy of Harrison Rue and ICF International 36 PROJECT FOR PUBLICSPACES PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 65. Transforming ‘Gasoline Alley’ Continue infill development Slide courtesy of Harrison Rue and ICF International 37 PROJECT FOR PUBLICSPACES PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 66. Transforming ‘Gasoline Alley’ Landscape matures over time Slide courtesy of Harrison Rue and ICF International 38 PROJECT FOR PUBLICSPACES PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 67. Transforming ‘Gasoline Alley’ Add transit service as market grows Slide courtesy of Harrison Rue and ICF International 39 PROJECT FOR PUBLICSPACES PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 68. State Route 27 Edison, NJ PROJECT FOR PUBLICSPACES PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 70. What is Placemaking?  Placemaking is a dynamic human function: it is an act of liberation, of staking claim, and of beautification; it is true human empowerment.  Placemaking is turning a neighborhood, town or city from a place you can’t wait to get through to one you never want to leave. PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 71. “Placemaking” is an overarching idea and a hands-on tool for improving a Neighborhood, City or Region . It has the potential to be one of the most transformative ideas of this century Metropolitan Planning Council
  • 72. Social public spaces “are built of a set of basics…”  Food  Seating  Triangulation  Sun/Shade  Places to People Watch  …it doesn’t take much… PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 73. Key Attributes What Makes a Great Place? Intangibles Measurements street life business ownership evening use property values volunteerism land-use patterns Fun retail sales Welcoming Cooperative Active Vital Neighborly Special Real sociability uses & activities PLACE access & linkages comfort & image Connected Safe Walkable Charm Clean Convenient Attractive Accessible Historic crime stats transit usage sanitation rating pedestrian activity building conditions parking usage patterns environmental data
  • 74. The Benefits of Places-Place Governance Nurtures & Defines Community Builds & Supports the Identity Fosters More Frequent & Local Economy • Greater community organization Meaningful Interaction • Sense of dedication & volunteerism • Improved sociability • Small-scale entrepreneurship • Perpetuation of integrity & values • Cultural exposure & interaction • More quality goods available • “Mutual coercion, mutually agreed-upon” • Exchange & preservation of information, • Higher real estate values • Reduced necessity for municipal control wisdom & values • Local ownership, local value • Self-managing • Bolstered barter system • More desirable jobs • Reduced race & class barriers • Increased currency velocity • Feeling of interconnection • Greater tax revenue • Reduced need for municipal services Place Draws a More Diverse Population Creates Improved • More women, elderly, and children Accessibility • Greater ethnic & cultural pluralism • More walkable Promotes Public Health • Support for wider range of activities & uses • New service, retail and customer niches • Safe for pedestrians • Compatible with public transit & Comfort • Variation & character in built environment • Less crime • Instilled confidence to create one’s reality • Reduced need for cars & parking • More efficient use of time & money • More outdoor physical activity • Visually attractive destinations • Generally stimulating • Greater connections between uses • Sense of belonging • Improved environmental quality • Feeling of freedom and limitlessness
  • 75. Communities Today Offices Churches Hospital Theatres/ Coffee Museums Shops Community Parks Center Transit Libraries Schools City Hall
  • 76. Sustainable Communities of the Future Churches Schools City Hall Community Centers Libraries Civic Squares Community Gathering Theatres/ Museums Coffee Spaces/Parks Shops Offices Hospitals Transit
  • 77.
  • 78. Local Placemaking Opportunities Main Streets Transportation & Local streets and roads Downtowns Bus stops Train Stations Parks (greenways, recreation, play areas) Parks & Squares Plazas & squares (performances, events) Markets Waterfronts Libraries and hospitals Civic Institutions Civic buildings Schools (universities, primary schools) Religious institutions Cultural institutions (theaters, museums) Private development Mixed-use – housing, retail and office
  • 79. Why don’t we have better Public Spaces today? • Fear • Narrow Development Goals • Project-driven vs. Place- driven Planning • Discipline-Based Planning/Design vs. Community-Based Placemaking • Government Structure
  • 80. Blank walls are an end in themselves. They declare the supremacy of architecture over humanity, of a building over a person. Museum of Modern Art - NYC
  • 81. Benches are artifacts, the purpose of which is to punctuate architectural photographs. They are not so good for sitting.
  • 82.
  • 83. “What attracts people most it would appear, is other people.”
  • 84. One of the best things about water is the look and feel of it…It’s not right to put water before people and then keep them away from it.
  • 85.
  • 86. If you want to seed a place with activity, put out food.
  • 87.
  • 88.
  • 89.
  • 90. If no one wants to go out to the Park, no one is going to stop them. ─ Yogi Berra
  • 91. It’s hard for people to realize that creating a place is more important than design. ─ PPS
  • 93. Each profession has become its own audience. -Pope Coleman
  • 94. When you focus on a place, you do everything differently
  • 96. 11 Principles of Creating Great Public Spaces 1. The community is the expert Underlying Ideas 2. You are creating a place not just a design 3. You can’t do it alone 4. They always say it can’t be done Planning & Outreach 5. You can see a lot just by observing Techniques 6. Develop a placemaking vision Translating Ideas Into 7. Power of 10/Triangulation Action 8. Form supports function 9. Lighter, Quicker, Cheaper Implementation 10. Money is not the issue 11. You are never finished
  • 97. Place Based Transportation Process  Destination Mapping aka Power of Ten  Route Mapping aka Connectivity Exercise  Place Audits  Street Audits  Lighter Quicker Cheaper Interventions
  • 98. The Power of Ten Region/City/Town/N eighborhood 10+ destinations Destinations 10+ places 10+ things to do Place Layering of uses to create synergy (Triangulation) = District
  • 99. Place Map App - Opportunities
  • 100. San Antonio- NPR Partnership
  • 101. Singapore - 10 Sites PROJECT
  • 102.
  • 107. Place and Street Audits
  • 108.
  • 109. Lighter, Quicker, Cheaper  Activation Events  Comfort, Amenities & Public Art  Interim Public Spaces  Light Development PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 110. Power of Ten in Harvard Yard
  • 111. The South Fence - Connection to Harvard Yard PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 112. The “Great Lawn” PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 113. The “Piazza” PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 114. Power of Ten 7. Entrance to the Science Center 1. Gateway between the Plaza and 8. Tanner Fountain Harvard Yard 9. Library Arcade 2. The South Fence and connection 10. NE Plaza Entrance to Harvard Yard 11. Loker Bar and Beer Garden 3. NW Plaza Entrance 12. Memorial Walk 4. The “Great Lawn” 13. Main Walkway 5. Science Center Outdoor Terrace 14. Overlooks 6. The “Piazza” PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 116. 6 Weeks Later PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 120. Better Blocks Philadelphia October, 2011 PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 121. Better Blocks Philadelphia October, 2011 PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 122. Better Blocks Philadelphia October, 2011 PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 123. Better Blocks Philadelphia October, 2011 PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 124. Market Street Philadelphia November, 2011 PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 125. Plaza Experiment PROJECT FOR PUBLICSPACES PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 126. PROJECT FOR PUBLICSPACES PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 131. Rockwell Avenue, Cleveland Pop up Bike Lane
  • 132. Rockwell Avenue, Cleveland Pop up Bike Lane
  • 133. Rockwell Avenue, Cleveland Pop up Bike Lane
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  • 137. PROJECT FOR PUBLICSPACES PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 138. PROJECT FOR PUBLICSPACES PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 139. PROJECT FOR PUBLICSPACES PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 140. Levels of Service The Wrong Tools for Urban Streets? PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 141. Levels of Service The Wrong Tools for Urban Streets? Text www.pps.org/ PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES
  • 142. We have been planning the pieces not the whole Slide Courtesy of John Nordquist, CNU
  • 143. No One Sees the Big Picture Slide courtesy of Leigh Lane
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  • 145.
  • 150. Upside Down Planning Placed Based Approach Corridor/Community Place Architecture Roadways Buildings Parking Institutions Markets
  • 151. http://www.pps.org/pdf/bookstore/How_to_Engage_Your_Transportation_Agency_AARP.pdf Gary Toth Director of Transportation Initiatives Project for Public Spaces 609-397-3885 Gtoth@pps.org PROJECT FOR PUBLICSPACES PROJECT FOR PUBLIC SPACES

Editor's Notes

  1. In our 30 years of work, we have found that people have never really lost their craving for great civic gathering spaces. People flock to civic spaces when they want to be with other people, to share ideas or become part of the collective expression of an idea or point of view. Uptown Waterloo ’ s public square has the potential to become such a great civic place and destination for the people of this City. As a parking lot, it ’ s opportunity to become a defining place for the city is quite limited. However, in either case, the space needs to be carefully planned and designed. But more than that, to be successful it must e actively programmed and managed on an ongoing basis and funds need to be set aside for that purpose NOW. That is why most if not all public spaces fail to realize their potential. Why parks sit empty; while plazas in the middle of busy commercial districts are unused except by skateboarders and the homeless; if you build it they will come, only if there is something to do there and a comfortable place to sit while you do it!
  2. We can work with Township officials on plans to infill a suburban environment
  3. But if we want to help our customers have the mobility and the quality of life that they have come to expect, maybe, just maybe, we will need to start thinking about land use
  4. In our 30 years of work, we have found that people have never really lost their craving for great civic gathering spaces. People flock to civic spaces when they want to be with other people, to share ideas or become part of the collective expression of an idea or point of view. Uptown Waterloo ’ s public square has the potential to become such a great civic place and destination for the people of this City. As a parking lot, it ’ s opportunity to become a defining place for the city is quite limited. However, in either case, the space needs to be carefully planned and designed. But more than that, to be successful it must e actively programmed and managed on an ongoing basis and funds need to be set aside for that purpose NOW. That is why most if not all public spaces fail to realize their potential. Why parks sit empty; while plazas in the middle of busy commercial districts are unused except by skateboarders and the homeless; if you build it they will come, only if there is something to do there and a comfortable place to sit while you do it!
  5. AARP printed a two-page spread using this graphic in its September 2007 Bulletin, a monthly newspaper that is received by more than 39 million members Wide, raised sidewalks Ramps to crosswalks Raised crosswalks Pedestrian-friendly medians Resting places May include recessed bus stops Bike lanes Visible signs Advanced stop lines On-street parking
  6. Key Message: This is the traditional engineering approach to roadway design. It shows very little relationship to land use context. Background Information: The engineer starts out by looking at existing or forecast traffic volume, the type of area the road is in, and its role in the highway network –through route vs. local route, degree of access control desired, etc. These characteristics are used to develop a formal functional classification for the road. General classifications include freeways, major arterials, minor arterials, collector streets, and local roads. There are divisions of these categories for urban and rural. The functional classification is used to establish the design speed and design vehicle. For example, freeways and rural arterials may be assigned a design speed of 55 mph or more. An urban collector street may be assigned a design speed of 25 to 35 mph. Design vehicle is basically whether the road is designed to readily accommodate large trucks or buses. The design speed and vehicle lead to physical requirements or guidelines for alignment, cross-section, intersection design, and roadside treatment. For example, to allow a car to safely travel at 55 mph, a curve must be a certain radius. The radius may need to be greater if the design vehicle is larger. Cross-section elements include lane widths, shoulder widths, medians, and sidewalks. Examples of roadside elements include maximum sideslope and clear zone for obstacles. Interactivity: Ask: In what ways, if any, does this approach relate a street ’ s design to its land use context? The only relation to land use is whether it is urban or rural Notes:
  7. Key Message: This is the traditional engineering approach to roadway design. It shows very little relationship to land use context. Background Information: The engineer starts out by looking at existing or forecast traffic volume, the type of area the road is in, and its role in the highway network –through route vs. local route, degree of access control desired, etc. These characteristics are used to develop a formal functional classification for the road. General classifications include freeways, major arterials, minor arterials, collector streets, and local roads. There are divisions of these categories for urban and rural. The functional classification is used to establish the design speed and design vehicle. For example, freeways and rural arterials may be assigned a design speed of 55 mph or more. An urban collector street may be assigned a design speed of 25 to 35 mph. Design vehicle is basically whether the road is designed to readily accommodate large trucks or buses. The design speed and vehicle lead to physical requirements or guidelines for alignment, cross-section, intersection design, and roadside treatment. For example, to allow a car to safely travel at 55 mph, a curve must be a certain radius. The radius may need to be greater if the design vehicle is larger. Cross-section elements include lane widths, shoulder widths, medians, and sidewalks. Examples of roadside elements include maximum sideslope and clear zone for obstacles. Interactivity: Ask: In what ways, if any, does this approach relate a street ’ s design to its land use context? The only relation to land use is whether it is urban or rural Notes:
  8. Requested by the Community Board in order to: curb speeding, to provide a safe, two-way bike path along the park and to reduce sidewalk bike riding.
  9. Key Message: This is the traditional engineering approach to roadway design. It shows very little relationship to land use context. Background Information: The engineer starts out by looking at existing or forecast traffic volume, the type of area the road is in, and its role in the highway network –through route vs. local route, degree of access control desired, etc. These characteristics are used to develop a formal functional classification for the road. General classifications include freeways, major arterials, minor arterials, collector streets, and local roads. There are divisions of these categories for urban and rural. The functional classification is used to establish the design speed and design vehicle. For example, freeways and rural arterials may be assigned a design speed of 55 mph or more. An urban collector street may be assigned a design speed of 25 to 35 mph. Design vehicle is basically whether the road is designed to readily accommodate large trucks or buses. The design speed and vehicle lead to physical requirements or guidelines for alignment, cross-section, intersection design, and roadside treatment. For example, to allow a car to safely travel at 55 mph, a curve must be a certain radius. The radius may need to be greater if the design vehicle is larger. Cross-section elements include lane widths, shoulder widths, medians, and sidewalks. Examples of roadside elements include maximum sideslope and clear zone for obstacles. Interactivity: Ask: In what ways, if any, does this approach relate a street ’ s design to its land use context? The only relation to land use is whether it is urban or rural Notes:
  10. Key Message: Network and corridor-level planning can help set the context for addressing more specific street design issues. Background Information: Network planning can occur as part of the regional and community-level visioning and planning processes, as discussed in Lessons 5 and 8. The design of the network (connectivity, spacing of arterials, etc.) has implications for the design of individual roadway segments. Network level solutions – for example, where major traffic routes go in relationship to activity centers – are the first step in establishing street-land use compatibility. Corridor visioning and planning, as discussed in Lesson 6, determines how a community wants a corridor to develop. It may include conceptual plans for street cross-sections and local road networks. Roadway design includes three distinct aspects – the traveled way, intersections, and the roadside (e.g., sidewalks and planting strips) Interactivity: Notes: Adapted from: Institute of Transportation Engineers (2006). Context Sensitive Solutions in Designing Major Urban Thoroughfares for Walkable Communities: A Proposed Recommended Practice. RP-036. Washington, D.C.
  11. … by putting themselves, and the going and staying needs of their bodies, in streets!
  12. In our 30 years of work, we have found that people have never really lost their craving for great civic gathering spaces. People flock to civic spaces when they want to be with other people, to share ideas or become part of the collective expression of an idea or point of view. Uptown Waterloo ’ s public square has the potential to become such a great civic place and destination for the people of this City. As a parking lot, it ’ s opportunity to become a defining place for the city is quite limited. However, in either case, the space needs to be carefully planned and designed. But more than that, to be successful it must e actively programmed and managed on an ongoing basis and funds need to be set aside for that purpose NOW. That is why most if not all public spaces fail to realize their potential. Why parks sit empty; while plazas in the middle of busy commercial districts are unused except by skateboarders and the homeless; if you build it they will come, only if there is something to do there and a comfortable place to sit while you do it!
  13. It is important that we think about public spaces in our community in terms of their potential to link important community institutions. Very often, these institutions operate on their own, without connecting with each other.
  14. Public Spaces should bring all of these diverse institutions together! We always say “You Can’t Do it Alone,” meaning you need to work with all the nearby partners to get the help you may need, such as innovative ideas, additional financial resources or in-kind services, or volunteers to help with maintenance or short-term improvement projects. Partners also help to broaden the impact of a project by participating in activities such as joint programming, marketing, fundraising, and security. A strong partnership can also move a project forward by giving it political clout. The most obvious partners are the people and institutions that are located around a space. They have a major impact on whether a public space will be used and how it will be maintained. The outer "edges" of the public space are inextricably entwined with the "inner," or actual public space: Each is dependent on the other for its success.
  15. This diagram shows the ten places and the activities that would go on in one of the places identified by Singapore stakeholder.
  16. Dun Laoghaire, a suburb of Dublin, where PPS did the Power of Ten Exercise and Place and Street Audits in March of 2012. Kate, read the Dun Laoghaire blog before leaving: http://www.pps.org/how-to-turn-dun-laoghaire-around/
  17. but when you get there, the only thing happening is people walking back and forth to class Exhibit on fence and/or in lawn area
  18. What could be done? A stage/informal seating area Events Moveable seating
  19. What could be done? Seating Flexible stage/seating area Tabling Interacting
  20. Places in Harvard square... we all envision it as a world class place
  21. Developed by stakeholders using POT and audit
  22. An idea of how much space is available for both people AND vehicles
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  24. Key Message: Network and corridor-level planning can help set the context for addressing more specific street design issues. Background Information: Network planning can occur as part of the regional and community-level visioning and planning processes, as discussed in Lessons 5 and 8. The design of the network (connectivity, spacing of arterials, etc.) has implications for the design of individual roadway segments. Network level solutions – for example, where major traffic routes go in relationship to activity centers – are the first step in establishing street-land use compatibility. Corridor visioning and planning, as discussed in Lesson 6, determines how a community wants a corridor to develop. It may include conceptual plans for street cross-sections and local road networks. Roadway design includes three distinct aspects – the traveled way, intersections, and the roadside (e.g., sidewalks and planting strips) Interactivity: Notes: Adapted from: Institute of Transportation Engineers (2006). Context Sensitive Solutions in Designing Major Urban Thoroughfares for Walkable Communities: A Proposed Recommended Practice. RP-036. Washington, D.C.
  25. In our 30 years of work, we have found that people have never really lost their craving for great civic gathering spaces. People flock to civic spaces when they want to be with other people, to share ideas or become part of the collective expression of an idea or point of view. Uptown Waterloo ’ s public square has the potential to become such a great civic place and destination for the people of this City. As a parking lot, it ’ s opportunity to become a defining place for the city is quite limited. However, in either case, the space needs to be carefully planned and designed. But more than that, to be successful it must e actively programmed and managed on an ongoing basis and funds need to be set aside for that purpose NOW. That is why most if not all public spaces fail to realize their potential. Why parks sit empty; while plazas in the middle of busy commercial districts are unused except by skateboarders and the homeless; if you build it they will come, only if there is something to do there and a comfortable place to sit while you do it!