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• We propose that HB 1583 become the “HB5” for higher education and redirect
its focus from block scheduling to "Guided Pathways".
• This national movement provides greater overall structure for each student's
career and academic goals, from advising, course sequence and course
alignment with our partner universities.
• Block scheduling is much more limited as it only organizes courses.
• Block scheduling doesn't comprehensively address the comprehensive
strategies necessary to increase student success.
• Pathways are also more efficient because as the pathway’s student cohort is
known, courses/programs and sequences can be planned well in advance
allowing for better scheduling and resource management including faculty.
• Pathways align with our secondary schools (HB5) and university partners
reducing the excess courses and minimizing the loss of credits during transfer.
1. TEXAS STUDENTS TAKE 92 HRS TO
COMPLETE A 60 HOUR ASSOCIATE DEGREE
STUDENT COST TO EARN DEGREE (only degree
earners) BECAUSE OF ADDITIONAL HOURS:
 FT STUDENT = $52,278
 PT STUDENT = $82,340
TAXPAYERS’ AND STUDENTS’ ANNUAL COST:*
THE ALAMO COLLEGES = $43.497 MILLION
THIRD HIGHEST IN TEXAS BEHIND DALLAS AND TARRANT
STATEWIDE = $468 MILLION (1/2 BILLION!)
STATE APPROPRIATIONS = $148 MILLION
LOCAL TAXES = $188 MILLION
TUITION/FEES = $132 MILLION
* HIGHER EDUCATION COORDINATING BOARD DATA
2. EVERY COLLEGE/UNIVERSITY HAS A DIFFERENT
COURSE SEQUENCE, EVEN FOR THE SAME MAJOR
COMMUNITY COLLEGE MAJOR
DOESN’T MATCH SO COURSES LOST
BECAUSE OF WIDE VARIETY OF CORE COURSES THE
COMMUNITY COLLEGE’S COURSE MAY NOT MATCH
IT WILL BE ACCEPTED FOR TRANSFER BUT NOT FOR THE MAJOR
THAT CORE COURSE WILL HAVE TO BE RETAKEN TO MEET THE MAJOR
REQUIREMENT AT TIME AND COST TO STUDENT AND TAXPAYER
A 2001 THECB study determined that:
Students who took at least 30 hours 83% of credit
hours were transferred, but only 70% were applied to a
degree
Over 75%, one course in five, were rejected for unclear
reasons
51% were designated “technical’ courses
12% had no course equivalents
A recent study (Atwell & Monaghan) found:
The biggest barrier to community college students
achieving a baccalaureate degree is inefficiency in credit
transfer
The more community college credits earned, the greater
the likelihood of successful transfer
Students who transferred most of their credits were two-
and-a-half times more likely to earn a baccalaureate degree
Fewer than 60% of students were able to transfer most of
their credits
15% of students had to literally start over!
Minority and low-income students are less likely to transfer
and earn a baccalaureate degree
3. MOST COMMUNITY COLLEGE STUDENTS DECLARE
THEIR INTENT TO TRANSFER
AT ALAMO COLLEGES, ONLY 20% OVERALL TRANSFER
THE REMAINING 80% OF THIS COHORT DON’T ACIEVE
THEIR TRANSFER GOAL
BY NOT ACHIEVING THEIR BACCALAUREATE DEGREE
THEY ARE UNDER EMPLOYED
80 % OF AAS STUDENTS AT ALAMO ARE EMPLOYED
40% OF AA AND AS STUDENTS AT ALAMO ARE
EMPLOYED
THIS CURTAILS THE EMPLOYER’S ACCESS TO
A WORKFORCE WITH THE APPROPRIATE
EDUCATION
REDUCES THEIR CAPACITY TO COMPETE
AND GROW
IMPACTS THE LOCAL AND STATE
ECONOMY
4. MANY STUDENTS WHO TRANSFER NEVER COMPLETE
LOST CREDITS REQUIRES MORE TIME AND MONEY PREVENTING
COMPLETION
STUDENTS OFTEN LOSE PELL/VETERANS, STATE AND FOUNDATION
FINANCIAL AID
ESPECIALLY FOR COMMUNITY COLLEGE STUDENTS WHO ARE
GENERALLY FINANCIALLY DISADVANTAGED, GENERAL LIFE CHALLENGES
ADD TO THE DIFFICULTY OF FUNDING TIME, LIVING AND TUITION COSTS
THE 6-DROP RULE AND 3-PEAT RULES OFTEN STOP STUDENTS AFTER
THEY TRANSFER AS THEY HAVE TO PAY TRIPLE TUITION
5. SUMMARY
THE TRANSFER POLICIES IN TEXAS WORK AGAINST STUDENT
COMPLETION
STUDENTS TAKE TOO MANY HOURS WHILE AT COMMUNITY
COLLEGE
TOO MANY STUDENTS INTENDING TO TRANSFER NEVER DO
TOO MANY HOURS ARE LOST DURING TRANSFER TO UNIVERSITY
THE COST TO STUDENTS AND TAXPAYERS IN TEXAS IS ALMOST ½
BILLION DOLLARS!
STUDENTS WHO ARE ECONOMICALLY CHALLENGED LOSE
PELL/VETERANS/STATE AND FOUNDATION FUNDS BECAUSE
THEY TAKE TOO MANY HOURS
AA AND AS STUDENTS WHO DON’T ACHIEVE THEIR TRANSFER
GOAL ARE UNDERPREPARED FOR THE WORKFORCE AND ARE A
LARGE COHORT UNAVAILABLE FOR EMPLOYMENT AT LEAST AT
THE LEVEL SUCCESSFUL TRANSFER WOULD HAVE PROVIDED
THIS IMPACTS EMPLOYERS’ COMPETITIVE AND GROWTH
CAPACITY
THIS IMPACTS THE STATE’S ECONOMIC CONDITION
6. PROPOSALS
HB 1583 SHOULD BE THE “HB5 OF HIGHER EDUCATION”
GUIDED PATHWAYS PROVIDE A BETTER WAY THAN A FOCUS ON BLOCK SCHEDULING TO
ORGANIZE COURSE SEQUENCES AND ENSURE EVERY COURSE COUNTS
GUIDED PATHWAYS HAS BECOME A NATIONAL STRATEGY WITH “ALAMOINSTITUTES”
AMONG THE NATIONAL LEADERS
HB61, COMMON COURSE NUMBERING, WILL GREATLY REDUCE LOST COURSES DURING
TRANSFER
ADVISING IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE AS EVERY UNIVERSITY/COLLEGE USES A DIFFERENT
METHODOLOGY TO DESCRIBE COURSES AND ACCEPT THEM FOR CREDIT
CHANGE CURRENT STATE POLICY OF 45 HOURS BEFORE CONCENTRATION IS DECLARED TO 15
REINFORCES HB5
SETS STUDENT ON RIGHT PATHWAY AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE LEAVING OPPORTUNITIES FOR
ADJUSTMENTS AS STUDENT NARROWS CAREER AND ACADEMIC GOAL
REQUIRE COLLABORATIVE ADVISING BETWEEN SECONDARY,
COMMUNITY COLLEGE AND UNIVERSITY/COLLEGES
ENSURE PATHWAYs FROM SECONDARY, THROUGH
COMMUNITY COLLEGE AND THROUGH UNIVERSITY TO
BACCACALAURATE
ENSURE “PUSH/PULL” PROCESS CREATES SEAMLESS
TRANSITION BETWEEN INSTITUTIONS
FIELDS OF STUDY AND TUNING APPROACHES SHOULD BE
PURSUED
CONCERN IS THE YEARS IT WILL TAKE TO ALIGN ALL
PROGRAMS
THANK YOU!
QUESTIONS?

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AA AS-transfer-issues-legislative-v1.4

  • 1.
  • 2. • We propose that HB 1583 become the “HB5” for higher education and redirect its focus from block scheduling to "Guided Pathways". • This national movement provides greater overall structure for each student's career and academic goals, from advising, course sequence and course alignment with our partner universities. • Block scheduling is much more limited as it only organizes courses. • Block scheduling doesn't comprehensively address the comprehensive strategies necessary to increase student success. • Pathways are also more efficient because as the pathway’s student cohort is known, courses/programs and sequences can be planned well in advance allowing for better scheduling and resource management including faculty. • Pathways align with our secondary schools (HB5) and university partners reducing the excess courses and minimizing the loss of credits during transfer.
  • 3. 1. TEXAS STUDENTS TAKE 92 HRS TO COMPLETE A 60 HOUR ASSOCIATE DEGREE STUDENT COST TO EARN DEGREE (only degree earners) BECAUSE OF ADDITIONAL HOURS:  FT STUDENT = $52,278  PT STUDENT = $82,340
  • 4. TAXPAYERS’ AND STUDENTS’ ANNUAL COST:* THE ALAMO COLLEGES = $43.497 MILLION THIRD HIGHEST IN TEXAS BEHIND DALLAS AND TARRANT STATEWIDE = $468 MILLION (1/2 BILLION!) STATE APPROPRIATIONS = $148 MILLION LOCAL TAXES = $188 MILLION TUITION/FEES = $132 MILLION * HIGHER EDUCATION COORDINATING BOARD DATA
  • 5. 2. EVERY COLLEGE/UNIVERSITY HAS A DIFFERENT COURSE SEQUENCE, EVEN FOR THE SAME MAJOR COMMUNITY COLLEGE MAJOR DOESN’T MATCH SO COURSES LOST BECAUSE OF WIDE VARIETY OF CORE COURSES THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE’S COURSE MAY NOT MATCH IT WILL BE ACCEPTED FOR TRANSFER BUT NOT FOR THE MAJOR THAT CORE COURSE WILL HAVE TO BE RETAKEN TO MEET THE MAJOR REQUIREMENT AT TIME AND COST TO STUDENT AND TAXPAYER
  • 6. A 2001 THECB study determined that: Students who took at least 30 hours 83% of credit hours were transferred, but only 70% were applied to a degree Over 75%, one course in five, were rejected for unclear reasons 51% were designated “technical’ courses 12% had no course equivalents A recent study (Atwell & Monaghan) found: The biggest barrier to community college students achieving a baccalaureate degree is inefficiency in credit transfer
  • 7. The more community college credits earned, the greater the likelihood of successful transfer Students who transferred most of their credits were two- and-a-half times more likely to earn a baccalaureate degree Fewer than 60% of students were able to transfer most of their credits 15% of students had to literally start over! Minority and low-income students are less likely to transfer and earn a baccalaureate degree
  • 8. 3. MOST COMMUNITY COLLEGE STUDENTS DECLARE THEIR INTENT TO TRANSFER AT ALAMO COLLEGES, ONLY 20% OVERALL TRANSFER THE REMAINING 80% OF THIS COHORT DON’T ACIEVE THEIR TRANSFER GOAL BY NOT ACHIEVING THEIR BACCALAUREATE DEGREE THEY ARE UNDER EMPLOYED 80 % OF AAS STUDENTS AT ALAMO ARE EMPLOYED 40% OF AA AND AS STUDENTS AT ALAMO ARE EMPLOYED
  • 9. THIS CURTAILS THE EMPLOYER’S ACCESS TO A WORKFORCE WITH THE APPROPRIATE EDUCATION REDUCES THEIR CAPACITY TO COMPETE AND GROW IMPACTS THE LOCAL AND STATE ECONOMY
  • 10. 4. MANY STUDENTS WHO TRANSFER NEVER COMPLETE LOST CREDITS REQUIRES MORE TIME AND MONEY PREVENTING COMPLETION STUDENTS OFTEN LOSE PELL/VETERANS, STATE AND FOUNDATION FINANCIAL AID ESPECIALLY FOR COMMUNITY COLLEGE STUDENTS WHO ARE GENERALLY FINANCIALLY DISADVANTAGED, GENERAL LIFE CHALLENGES ADD TO THE DIFFICULTY OF FUNDING TIME, LIVING AND TUITION COSTS THE 6-DROP RULE AND 3-PEAT RULES OFTEN STOP STUDENTS AFTER THEY TRANSFER AS THEY HAVE TO PAY TRIPLE TUITION
  • 11. 5. SUMMARY THE TRANSFER POLICIES IN TEXAS WORK AGAINST STUDENT COMPLETION STUDENTS TAKE TOO MANY HOURS WHILE AT COMMUNITY COLLEGE TOO MANY STUDENTS INTENDING TO TRANSFER NEVER DO TOO MANY HOURS ARE LOST DURING TRANSFER TO UNIVERSITY THE COST TO STUDENTS AND TAXPAYERS IN TEXAS IS ALMOST ½ BILLION DOLLARS!
  • 12. STUDENTS WHO ARE ECONOMICALLY CHALLENGED LOSE PELL/VETERANS/STATE AND FOUNDATION FUNDS BECAUSE THEY TAKE TOO MANY HOURS AA AND AS STUDENTS WHO DON’T ACHIEVE THEIR TRANSFER GOAL ARE UNDERPREPARED FOR THE WORKFORCE AND ARE A LARGE COHORT UNAVAILABLE FOR EMPLOYMENT AT LEAST AT THE LEVEL SUCCESSFUL TRANSFER WOULD HAVE PROVIDED
  • 13. THIS IMPACTS EMPLOYERS’ COMPETITIVE AND GROWTH CAPACITY THIS IMPACTS THE STATE’S ECONOMIC CONDITION
  • 14. 6. PROPOSALS HB 1583 SHOULD BE THE “HB5 OF HIGHER EDUCATION” GUIDED PATHWAYS PROVIDE A BETTER WAY THAN A FOCUS ON BLOCK SCHEDULING TO ORGANIZE COURSE SEQUENCES AND ENSURE EVERY COURSE COUNTS GUIDED PATHWAYS HAS BECOME A NATIONAL STRATEGY WITH “ALAMOINSTITUTES” AMONG THE NATIONAL LEADERS HB61, COMMON COURSE NUMBERING, WILL GREATLY REDUCE LOST COURSES DURING TRANSFER ADVISING IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE AS EVERY UNIVERSITY/COLLEGE USES A DIFFERENT METHODOLOGY TO DESCRIBE COURSES AND ACCEPT THEM FOR CREDIT CHANGE CURRENT STATE POLICY OF 45 HOURS BEFORE CONCENTRATION IS DECLARED TO 15 REINFORCES HB5 SETS STUDENT ON RIGHT PATHWAY AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE LEAVING OPPORTUNITIES FOR ADJUSTMENTS AS STUDENT NARROWS CAREER AND ACADEMIC GOAL
  • 15. REQUIRE COLLABORATIVE ADVISING BETWEEN SECONDARY, COMMUNITY COLLEGE AND UNIVERSITY/COLLEGES ENSURE PATHWAYs FROM SECONDARY, THROUGH COMMUNITY COLLEGE AND THROUGH UNIVERSITY TO BACCACALAURATE ENSURE “PUSH/PULL” PROCESS CREATES SEAMLESS TRANSITION BETWEEN INSTITUTIONS FIELDS OF STUDY AND TUNING APPROACHES SHOULD BE PURSUED CONCERN IS THE YEARS IT WILL TAKE TO ALIGN ALL PROGRAMS