2. They will take ideas from the Roman Catholic trinity , then shuffle, turn ,twist, add, subtract,
multiply and divided these ideas then present them as something new and original. When its only
a modified version of Catholism they are teaching and promoting. Below is example of this:
HOW ANTI-TRINITARIAN IN ADVENTISM REASON :
Original Statement Anna ate bread at John’s house yesterday.
1. Revised Statement Twenty-four hours ago Anna Ate bread at John’s house.
2. Revising the
revised Statement
Bread was consumed by Anna at John’s house one day ago.
3. Revising the revision
of the revised Statement
Anna loves to devour bread and John entertained
her at his home one day ago from.
4. Revising for the
last time
Yesterday John accommodated Anna at his house
and O How she relished the taste of the bread.
3. 1. They Subscribes to Arianism.
2. They teach a modified version of the Catholic Trinity.
3. They have a Mother-Father God giving birth to a son.
4. They Diminish The Deity of Jesus Christ.
5. They Diminish the Deity of the Holy Spirit.
6. They ascribe Deity to the Angels
7. They Promotes Spiritualism
8. They Support Jesuitism
9. They Support Free-Masonry
10. They Support Islam doctrine of The Holy Spirit
11. They Destroy the Inspiration of The Bible
12. They twist the writings of Ellen G. White
4. ARIANISM, n. The doctrines of the Arians.
ARIAN, a. Pertaining to Arius, a presbyter of the church of Alexandria, in the fourth century; or to his doctrines.
ARIAN, n. One who adheres to the doctrines of Arius, who held Christ to
be a created being, inferior to God the father in nature and dignity,
though ; and also that the Holy
Spirit is not God, but created by the power of the Son.
{Webster’s 1828 Dictionary}
5. “God was not always a Father, for
and not yet a Father, but afterwards He became a Father.
; for whereas all things were made out of nothing, and all existing
creatures and works were made, so the Word of God Himself was made
out of nothing and
.” -From Arius’ Thalia, quoted in Athanasius, Oratio
contra Arianos I 5, in J. P. Migne, Patrologiae Cursus Completus, Series Graeca, 26.21.
“The Word is not true God. Though He is called God, yet He is not truly God but
by participation of grace, He, as all the others, is called God only in name.”
-Athanasius, Oratio contra Arianos I 6, in J. P. Migne, Patrologiae Cursus Completus, Series Graeca, 26.21-2.
Arius (in his Thalia) as cited by Athanasius:
9. “…although these Three are utterly equal to one another with an equality
that is absolute ,since each of them is the same god, yet they are so far
from being identical with one another that they are related to one another as
relative terms in direct opposition and their opposition lies in their relation of
origin, the one to the other.
The Father is distinct from the son, because He eternally begets Him.
The Son is distinct from the Father because He is eternally being begotten by
Him. The Holy Spirit is distinct from booth Father and Son, because He is
breathedfrom both and proceeds from them as from one principleof origin. ”
Understanding the Trinity By J. P. Arendzen , page 16-17
12. “ The mystery of the Trinity is the central doctrine
of Catholicfaith. Upon it are based all the other
teachings of the Church. …..The Father is God, the
Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God, and
.”
(Handbookfor Today’s Catholic, p. 16; 1994).
-One God in Three Persons,” My Catholic
Faith: A Manual of Religion, Louis Laravoire
Morrow, Bishop of Krishnagar, p30.
13.
14.
15. Anti-Trinitariansin Adventism employ Jesuit Rhetoric:
What may appear to be in anti-Trinitarian expressions as an opposition towards the
Roman Catholic version of the trinity in terminology is not an opposition at all but
rather the very acceptanceof it in an modified form.
17. New Advent
2012By Kevin Knight
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15047a.htm
his Father’s Spirit, as he did
“all things,” by as the divine Son of God
from eternity. He retained his Father’s Spirit when he
came into the world to be “manifest in the flesh.”
His Spirit is Himself, the same person, the same
identity, but divested of his humanity—as he was
before he became flesh.
But not only does the Father send the Spirit of His
Son, but the Son sends his own Spirit from the
Father!
Jesus says that he will send the Spirit of truth which
.
Thus, in the words of the Athanasian Creed: "the Father
is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God, and yet
there are not three Gods but one God." In this Trinity of
Persons the Son is begotten of the Father by an eternal
generation, and the
. Yet,
notwithstanding this difference as to origin, the Persons
are co-eternal and co-equal: all alike are uncreated and
omnipotent. This, the Church teaches, is the revelation
regarding God's nature which Jesus Christ, the Son of
God, came upon earth to deliver to the world: and which
she proposes to man as the foundation of her whole
dogmaticsystem.
18. New Advent
2012By Kevin Knight
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15047a.htm
But not only does the Father send the Spirit of
His Son, …
but the Son sends his own Spirit from the Father!
Jesus says that he will send the Spirit of truth
which
. ..
…. the
. …
Those who believe and teach that the Holy is not person but the
presence and power of God are teaching Catholicism and Pantheism .
20. “The Holy Ghost is the Spirit of
Christ. He is also the Spirit of the
Father. Thus St. Augustine argues (In
Joan, tr. xcix, 6, 7 in P.L., XXXV, 188) . . Just
as there is only one Father, just as there is
only one Lord or one Son, so there is only
one Spirit, who is, consequently, the
Spirit of both [of the other two] .”
—The Catholic Encyclopedia,
1914 Edition, art. “Holy Ghost.”
If you accept the teaching that The Holy Spirit is the not a separate person from the Father and
the Christ, you are a good Catholic. Beware of the errors you accept from teachers in our ranks.
“ The Holy Spirit was not another
person with individuality like God
and Christ but was both of them
(God and Christ) omnipresent. In
other words, the Holy Spirit was
said to be the Spirit of both God
and Christ .”
A study of the Godhead – as it pertains to Seventh-
day Adventism by Terry Hill, Chapter twenty , The
Holy Spirit - spirit of prophecy comments (part 2)
,page 331
ANTI-TRINITARIAN ADVENTISM
21. The Non-Trinitarian believes that there are:
Two Divine Beings in the Godhead and that the Father
is the eternal God with Jesus having been begotten of
the Father at some point in eternity. That He came
forth with the same substance as the Father and that
the Father gave His Son all His attributes including
Omniscience, Omnipotence and
His Omnipresent Spirit which is a shared Spirit and
would be the third Person of the Godhead.
The Omega of Apostasy – Study #4
The title of today’s study is: "The Alpha – The Omega" Part 3 , page 3
http://www.trinityorheresy.org/2016%20The%20Omega%20of%20Apostasy%20-%20Study%204_16pt.pdf
22. 1. Jesus came out of the father in eternity pass.
2. Jesus has a spirit which is Himself the same
person.
3. The Holy Spirit is sent by the Father.
4. Jesus can also send Himself from the Father.
5. The Spirit in Jesus (which is the same
person), resides in the Father and outside of
the Father at the same time in Jesus.
1. The Father is the great Source of all things
2. Jesus is God’s son by birth
3. God gives His only begotten Son
4. He (The Father) gives a Holy Spirit
5. Jesus is that Spirit
6. His (Son’s) Spirit is Himself, the same
person ,same identity
7. Father sent forth the spirit of His Son
8. His Son’s Spirit is Gods Spirit
9. Son sends his own Spirit from the Father
10. This is how they are numerically one.
11. This is how both dwell in us,
26. “ We shall meet those who allow their
minds to wander into idle speculations
about things of which nothing is said in
the word of God. God has spoken in the
plainest language upon every subject
that affects the salvation of the soul. ”
-The Review and Herald ,
February 5, 1901,par.3
27. “ Today there are coming into educational
institutions and into the churches everywhere
spiritualistic teachings that undermine faith in
God and in His Word. The theory that God is an
“essence” pervading all nature is received by
many who profess to believe the Scriptures; but,
however beautifully clothed, this theory is a
most dangerous deception. It misrepresents God
and is a dishonor to His greatness and majesty.
And it surely tends not only to mislead, but to
debase men. Darkness is its element, sensuality
its sphere. The result of accepting it is separation
from God. And to fallen human nature this
means ruin…”
-Ministry of Healing pg. 428-429
28. “The spiritualistic theories concerning God make
His grace [Divine Influence, Spirit] of no effect. If
God is an essence pervading all nature, then He
dwells in all men; and in order to attain holiness,
man has only to develop the power within him
[self]. These theories, followed to their logical
conclusion, sweep away the whole Christian
economy [plan of Salvation]. They do away with
the necessity for the atonement and make man his
own savior. These theories regarding God make
His Word of no effect (John 6:63), and those who
accept them are in great danger of being led
finally to look upon the whole Bible as a fiction. ”
-Ministry of Healing pg. 428-429
29. “When Satan has undermined faith in the
Bible, he directs men to other sources for light
and power. Thus he insinuates himself. Those
who turn from the plain teaching of Scripture
and the convicting power of God’s Holy Spirit
are inviting the control of demons. Criticism
and have
opened the way for Spiritism and Theosophy –
those modernized forms of ancient
heathenism—to gain a foothold even in the
professed churches of our Lord Jesus Christ.”
-The Desire of Ages ,pg.258
30. “Side by side with the preaching of the gospel,
agencies are at work which are but the
medium of lying spirits. Many a man tampers
with these merely from curiosity, but seeing
evidence of the working
, he is lured on and on, until he is
controlled by a will stronger than his own. He
cannot escape from its mysterious power. ”
-The Desire of Ages ,pg.258
35. THE 1888 MESSAGE AND ELLEN G
WHITE COMMENTS ON THE MATTER
While Ellen G. White said that the massages
presented by A.T Jones and E.J Waggoner
,where a most precious massage given to us
of God. She did not necessary agreed with
them in all points and even W.W Prescott
who later sounded the same massage in his
own unique way.
36. THE 1888 MESSAGE AND ELLEN G
WHITE COMMENTS ON THE MATTER
When it came in to the Origins of Christ
whether it may have been His divinity or He
being begotten before His incarnation here
upon this earth, she openly disagreed with
them by publishing contrary statements on
the matter. She lets us know that The
ETERNAL GODHEAD existed from ALL
OF ETERNITY.
37. THE 1888 MESSAGE AND ELLEN G
WHITE COMMENTS ON THE MATTER
But she was in agreement with their views
on the Incarnation of Christ taken man
fallen sinful nature, their wider
understanding of Justification by faith
surpassing what the great reformers Martin
Luther ,John Calvin and past protestant
reformers had thought on this subjected.
38. THE 1888 MESSAGE AND ELLEN G
WHITE COMMENTS ON THE MATTER
Their over all teachings about
Righteous by Faith in relationship with
the law of God was also in harmony
with her teachings on the subject.
39. “Some
given by Dr. Waggoner
. But I believe him to be
perfectly honest in his views, and I
would respect his feelings and treat him
as a Christian gentleman....”
(Manuscript 15, Nov., 1888; The Ellen G. White 1888 Materials, pg 164, 165).
40. “I know it would be dangerous to
denounce Dr. Waggoner’s position as
. This would please
the enemy. I see the beauty of truth in
the presentation of the righteousness of
Christ in relation to the law as the
doctor has placed it before us. You say,
many of you, it is light and truth.
(Manuscript 15, Nov., 1888; The Ellen G. White 1888 Materials, pg 164, 165).
41. “Yet you have not presented it in this
light heretofore. Is it not possible that
through earnest, prayerful searching of
the Scriptures he has seen still greater
light on some points? That which has
been presented harmonizes perfectly
with the light which God has been
pleased to give me during all the years of
my experience.”
(Manuscript 15, Nov., 1888; The Ellen G. White 1888 Materials, pg 164, 165).
42. “If our ministering brethren would
which has been
presented so clearly--
-
and I know they need to accept this,
their prejudices would not have a
controlling power, and the people
would be fed with their portion of meat
in due season...”
(Manuscript 15, Nov., 1888; The Ellen G. White 1888 Materials, pg 164, 165).
43. “I see no excuse for the wrought-up state
of feeling that has been created at this
meeting. This is the first time I have had
opportunity to listen to anything in
reference to this subject. I have had no
conversation in regard to it with my son
W. C. White, with Dr. Waggoner, or with
Elder A. T. Jones.”
(Manuscript 15, Nov., 1888; The Ellen G. White 1888 Materials, pg 164, 165).
44. “At this meeting I have heard for the
first time Dr. Waggoner's reasons for
his position.... Even if the position
which we have held upon the two laws
is truth, the Spirit of truth will not
countenance any such measures to
defend it as many of you would take.”
(Manuscript 15, Nov., 1888; The Ellen G. White 1888 Materials, pg 164, 165).
45. E.J Waggoner
The Scriptures declare that Christ is “the only-
begotten Son of God.” He is begotten, not
created. As to when He was begotten, it is not
for us to inquire, nor could our minds grasp it if
we were told.... There was a time when Christ
proceeded forth and came from God, from the
bosom of the Father (John 8: 42; 1: 18), but
that time was so far back in the days of eternity
that to finite comprehension it is practically
without beginning. –(E.J. Waggoner, Christ and
His Righteousness, 1890, pg 21, 22).
Ellen G. White
The Lord Jesus Christ, the divine Son of God,
existed from eternity, a distinct person, yet one with
the Father. mThe Review and Herald, April 5,
1906, p. 8.
In speaking of His pre-existence, Christ carries the
mind back through dateless ages. He assures us
that there never was a time when He was not in
close fellowship with the eternal God. He to whose
voice the Jews were then listening had been with
God as one brought up with Him.—The Signs of
the Times, August 29, 1900.
“ Some interpretations of Scripture given by Dr. Waggoner I do not regard
as correct. But I believe him to be perfectly honest in his views, and I would
respect his feelings and treat him as a Christian gentleman... "
(Manuscript 15, Nov., 1888; The Ellen G. White 1888 Materials, pg 164, 165).
46. E.J Waggoner
While both are of the same nature,
the Father is first in point of time. He
is also greater in that he had no
beginning, while Christ’s personality
had a beginning. (E.J. Waggoner,
Signs of the Times, April 8, 1889).
Ellen G. White
“ Some interpretations of Scripture given by Dr. Waggoner I do not regard
as correct. But I believe him to be perfectly honest in his views, and I would
respect his feelings and treat him as a Christian gentleman... "
(Manuscript 15, Nov., 1888; The Ellen G. White 1888 Materials, pg 164, 165).
Christ was the Son of God. He had been
one with Him before the angels were
called into existence. He had ever stood at
the right hand of the Father." -Patriarchs and
Prophets, p. 38.
From all eternity Christ was united with the
Father, and when He took upon Himself
human nature, He was still one with God.
he Signs of the Times, August 2, 1905, p. 10.
47. E.J WaggonerEllen G. White
“The world is full of speculation and false theories regarding the nature
and character of God. The enemy of our souls is earnestly at work to
introduce among the Lord's people pleasing speculation, and incorrect
views regarding THE PERSONALITY OF GOD...” {8MR 304.1} 1903
“… The Father and the Son each have a
PERSONALITY. …” {Ev 613.3} 1909
“The Holy Spirit has a PERSONALITY…” {Ev
617.1} 1906
“The Holy Spirit is the Comforter, in Christ's
name. He personifies Christ, yet is a distinct
PERSONALITY…” {20MR 324.2} 1893
While both are of the same nature, the Father is
first in point of time. He is also greater in that he
had no beginning, while Christ’s PERSONALITY
had a beginning. (E.J. Waggoner, Signs of the
Times, April 8, 1889).
Here we see where E.J Waggoner brings in speculative and
false theories regarding the personality of Christ.
And since He(Christ) is the only-begotten son of
God, He is of the very substance and nature of God
and POSSESSES BY BIRTH all the attributes of God,
for the Father was pleased that His Son should be
the express image of His Person. (E.J. Waggoner,
Christ and His Righteousness, 1890, pg 21, 22).
48. "Christ is the pre-existent, self-existent Son of God . .
In speaking of His pre-existence, Christ carries the
mind back through dateless ages. He assures us
that there never was a time when He was not in
close fellowship with the eternal God. He to whose
voice the Jews were then listening had been with God
as one broughtup with Him.”
—Signs, August 29, 1900 (Evangelism, 615).
49. A brother asked, "Sister White, do you think we must understand the truth
for ourselves? Why can we not take the truths that others have gathered
together, and believe them because they have investigated the subjects, and
then we shall be free to go on without the taxing of the powers of the mind
in the investigation of all these subjects? Do you not think that these men
who have brought out the truth in the past were inspired of God?" I dare
not say they were not led of God, for Christ leads into all truth; but when it
comes to inspiration in the fullest sense of the word, I answer, No…
{Review & Herald, March 25, 1890 par. 4}
50. I believe that God has given them a work to do, but if they are not fully
consecrated to God at all times, they will weave self and their peculiar
traits of character into what they are doing, and will put their mold upon
the work, and fashion men in religious experience after their own pattern.
It is dangerous for us to make flesh our arm. We should lean upon the
arm of infinite power. God has been revealing this to us for years. We
must have living faith in our hearts, and reach out for larger knowledge
and more advanced light.
{Review & Herald, March 25, 1890 par. 4}
51. Paganism and Catholicism: The Mother-Son Sun Worship System
The idea that the Father existed “alone before all things” and later “subdivided Himself”
into Son and Holy Spirit is the exact opposite of what the bible teaches. Paganism always
had this concept of a mother father god that gave birth to literal son.
“The pagan system of sun worship had three main aspects: the father, mother,
and the son. In ancient Chaldean times, these were the god Bel or Merodach,
Ninus the son who was also worshiped as Tammuz, and the female goddess
Rhea who was also worshiped as Ishtar, Astarte, or Beltis. She was also referred
to as the “queen of heaven,” and the “wrath subduer” in the Bible. "
http://amazingdiscoveries.org/S-deception_paganism_Catholic_Nimrod_Mary
52. Paganism has embraced the
androgynous mindset since its
inception. Goddess worship is an
integral part of Paganism and
Gnosticism. This is androgyny.
Paganism is making a strong
comeback. Gnostic ideas are
attracting multitudes.
53. --The Dance of the Dissident Daughter, p. 151, Sue Monk Kidd, former Baptist turned feminist.
A Gnostic Feminist writes:
"...the main thing distinguishing the Gnostic gospels
from the orthodox gospels is their abundance of
powerful feminine imagery of the Divine. They
reveal that many early Christians described and
worshipped God as dyad, a being consisting of both
masculine and feminine elements.“
“They prayed to both the divine Father and the
divine Mother--to Mother-Father. One of their
prayers, still intact, begins, 'From thee, Father, and
through thee, Mother...' The Gnostic gospels also
referred to the Holy Spirit as female."
56. https://www.gaia.com/article/worlds-soul-woman-gnostic-myth-sophia
THE MYTH OF THE DIVINE SOPHIA
In the Gnostic myth of how the world works, Sophia, the
feminine personification of wisdom, lives happily with
spirits of light (especially her twin brother), in the unified
limitless potential of her Father's radiance, created by
the twin powers of Depth and Silence.
She's so dizzy with love for the Creative Source that
when she sees a brilliant shimmering light below, she
flings herself down into the darkness, mistakenly
following what she believes to be her Father's radiance,
fooled by a mere reflection. There, in the abysmal
unrealized potential of the world, she is trapped –
separated from the light, the spiritual realization of
Gnosis – the knowledge of transcendent unity.
57. https://www.gaia.com/article/worlds-soul-woman-gnostic-myth-sophia
There, the powers of the underworld have their
way with her, using, abusing, and exploiting her,
until all she knows is sadness in the struggle to
return herself up to the light she has lost, but not
forgotten. She gives birth to a bunch of bad
boys, demigods called archons, including the
worst of them all, the demiurge who becomes
the creator of this world, infecting it with pride,
ignorance, fear, and his lust for power and
pleasure.
58. https://www.gaia.com/article/worlds-soul-woman-gnostic-myth-sophia
But Sophia remains present, and in her resurgent power she brings great
beauty and spiritual potential to the earthly realm and its inhabitants.
Witnessing the irresponsible creation of the world by her errant offspring,
Sophia conceals Consciousness in the body of the demiurge’s first man,
"Adam," and then brings it into the world as "Eve."
59. https://www.gaia.com/article/worlds-soul-woman-gnostic-myth-sophia
THE MYTH OF THE DIVINE SOPHIA
Finally, Sophia breaks free and ascends back up
to the true light of life, raising humanity with
her ever so slightly. But she refuses to abandon
the sad world of humans, and so she divides
herself, keeping a part below, ever present and
available for the enlightenment of all.
60. https://www.gaia.com/article/worlds-soul-woman-gnostic-myth-sophia
Back up in the celestial realm of spiritual light,
Sophia rediscovers Gnosis by joining her twin
brother in a "marriage" of reunification,
balancing the masculine ego of unrealized
potential, and uniting it with the sacred feminine
– made ever more powerful by adversity – into
an androgynous whole. A complete person, full
with the knowledge of the transcendent, unified
light.
61. https://www.gaia.com/article/worlds-soul-woman-gnostic-myth-sophia
ONE WOMAN , MANY NAMES
Sophia ends up being the giver of wisdom in so
many forms: She is Shakti in Sanskrit, the
powerful Hindu personification of feminine
wisdom, and the personal and collective linking
soul as atman, realized in the transcendent state
of samadhi (Gnosis). She is the compassionate
boddhisatva (Avalokiteshvara) in Buddhism,
returning to light the path to nirvana (Gnosis);
personified by the deity Guanyin.
62. https://www.gaia.com/article/worlds-soul-woman-gnostic-myth-sophia
ONE WOMAN , MANY NAMES
She is both Mother Mary, in her ascendant
form, and Mary Magdalene, as the earthly
companion of the Christ potential in Christian
Gnosticism. In Jungian psychology, she is the
unifying power ("individuation") of both the
feminine and masculine
archetypes, anima and animus, and of the
lower self of the psyche with the higher
spiritual self (Gnosis).
69. The Trinity: What Has God Revealed - Objections Answered by Glyn Parfitt B. Sc., M. Sc., Dip. Ed..
“ This spiritualistic beliefthat there is only one true God, and that he existed
alone before all things – including Jesus, would lead you into the pantheistic
beliefthat Godjust subdivided Himself, His essence or His divine substance,
into different parts; such as a Son, or a Holy Spirit, etc. Thus God would be the
continuous source and sustainer of all these parts of His, because He would
be in all these parts. …one true God birthing out of Himself others ! Which is
nothing more than pureCatholicism pantheism and spiritualism!. ”
70. Truth Matters ,page 216
“ The Babylonian system of worship has essentially been maintained to this day. The ancient
Chaldeans worshipped a pantheon of male and female godsrepresenting the sun god.
… Mother and childworship was the basis of the ancient religions. Andin the various religions of
the world, the same system of worship was perpetuated under differentnames. In Egypt, they were
worshipped as Isis and Osiris or Horus; in India as Isi and Iswara; in China andJapan as the mother
goddess Shing-moo with child; in Greece as Ceres or Irene andPlutus; in Rome as Fortuna and
Jupitor-puer, or Venus and Adurnis; and in Scandinavia as Frigga and Balder. The mother and child
were worshipped in Babylon as Ishtar and Tammuz, and in Phoenicia, as Ashtoreth and Baal.
Moreover, the child was worshipped as both husband and son of the mother goddess. ”
71. The idea that the Father existed “alone before all
things” and later “subdivided Himself” into Son
and Holy Spirit is the exact opposite of what the
bible teaches. Paganism always had this concept of
a mother father god that gave birth to literal son.
“The pagan system of sun worship had three
main aspects: the father, mother, andthe son. ”
“… Mother and child worship was the basis of the
ancient religions. And in the various religions of the
world, the same system of worship was perpetuated
under different names. ”
Truth Matters ,page 216
“ The Bible clearly teaches that Jesus is not created
but begotten of God (John 1: 14; 3: 16, etc.)....
"begotten" means the opposite of created. It is to
give existence to a being from the being of the one
who beget, a being who by birth inherits the
nature and all attributes of his parent.
Jesus was the only begotten Son of God. By
birth he has inherited all the
fullness of the divine nature. He was God by
nature having all divine attributes and thereby He
was entitled to participate in the counsel of His
Father. ”
-Maranatha Media : Article called “Begotten or Created ”
http://maranathamedia.com/article/view/begotten-or-created
72.
73. “All the Kabalists and Occultists, Eastern and Western, recognise
(a) the identity of "Father-Mother" with primordial Æther or
Akâsa, (Astral Light)†, and (b) its homogeneity before the
evolution of the “Son”
Spirit . . . . Matter. Beginning with the pure spiritual plane, it
becomes grosser as it descends until it becomes the Maya or the
tempting and deceitful serpent on our plane."
75. If you accept the teaching that some time in eternity Christ was brought forth by the Father,
you are a good Catholic. Beware of the errors you accept from teachers in our ranks.
“All the Kabalists and Occultists, Eastern and Western,
recognise (a) the identity of "Father-Mother" with
primordial Æther or Akâsa, (Astral Light)†, and (b) its
homogeneity before the evolution of the "Son ”… The
Astral Light, or the AEther, of the ancient pagans (for the
name of Astral Light is quite modern) is Spirit . . . . Matter.
Beginning with the pure spiritual plane, it becomes
grosser as it descends until it becomes the Maya or the
tempting and deceitful serpent on our plane."
THE ORIGINS OF SELF-CONSCIOUSNESS
IN THE SECRET DOCTRINE BY
H. P. BLAVATSKY ,page 12,10
This true God has designed to use to give me some
conception of the birthof his only son.
He said to us, “My son is my word. In stark reality he is
other than I, for I am the Father and he is my son. He is my
Son, because I think him. I beget him by my act of infinite
self-knowledge; I utter Him as the infinite object of
my thought. I am a living God, and my life is thought. Being
God, I know my Godhead, and what I know is my son. I am
the sourceof the Godhead, and He is the Godhead as
uttered by Infinite Intelligence. He is not I, although He and
I are the same one God.”
The Holy Trinity, By J. P. Arendzen , page 90.
76. “ What is more absurd and more impious than to attribute the name
Lucifer to the devil, that is, to personified evil. The intellectual Lucifer is
the spirit of intelligence and love; it is the paraclete [an advocate]; it is
the Holy Spirit, where the physical Lucifer is the great angel of universal
magnetism. ”
- Eliphas Levi, The Mysteries of Magic, A Digest of the Writings of Eliphas Levi.
77. Mighty Angel's Ministries
The Mystery of the Holy Spirit Revealed A Divine
Secrete That Has Been Kept For Ages, page 3
“ The Holy spirit was discovered to be
not a single person who is God or a Spirit
that God possesses: but a name for the
agency in which God will work as a
representative.
And this agency is the ministration of
the Holy Angels. The "THIRD
PERSON" is an alternative for this
agency or the Holy Spirit.”
- Eliphas Levi, The Mysteries of Magic, A
Digest of the Writings of Eliphas Levi.
“ What is more absurd and more impious
than to attribute the name Lucifer to the
devil, that is, to personified evil.
The intellectual Lucifer is the spirit of
intelligence and love; it is the paraclete
[an advocate]; it is the Holy Spirit, where
the physical Lucifer is the great angel of
universal magnetism.”
Some Anti-Trinitarians and Freemasonry teaches
that the Holy Spirit is the Angels
80. (Out On a Limb, by Shirley MacLaine, Bantam Books, 1983, pp. 327-329)
"I stared at the flickering candle. My headfelt light. I physically
felt a kindof tunnel open in my mind ... Once again I felt myself
become the flame ... I became the space in my mind. I felt myself
flow into the space, Fill it, and floatoff, rising out of my body
until I began to soar.
Astral Project and Bilocation
I was aware that my body remainedin the water. I looked
down and saw it. Davidstood next to it. My spiritor mind or
soul, or whatever it was, climbed higher into space. Right
through the ceiling of the pool house and upward over the
twilight river. I literally feltI was flying
... wafting higher and higheruntil I could see the mountains
and the landscape below me and I recognized what I had seen
during the day."
81. (Out On a Limb, by Shirley MacLaine, Bantam Books, 1983, pp. 327-329)
"And attached to my spirit was a thin, thin silver cord that
remained stretched though attached to my body in the
pool of water. I wasn't in a dream. No, I was conscious of
everything, it seemed. I was even conscious that I didn't
want to soar too high ... I definitely felt connected. What
was certain to me was that I felt two forms
... my body form below and my spirit form that soared. I
was in two places at once, and I accepted it completely ...
I watched the silver cord attached to my body ... It
glistened in the air. It felt limitless in length ... totally
elastic, always attached to my body. My sight came from
some kind of spiritual eye."
Astral Project and Bilocation
82. (Out On a Limb, by Shirley MacLaine, Bantam Books, 1983, pp. 327-329)
“ It wasn't like seeing with real eyes. I soared higher and
wondered how far the cord would stretch without snapping.
The moment I thought about hesitation, my soaring stopped.
I stopped my flight, consciously, in space ... I directed
myself downward, back to my body. Slowly I descended ...
with a soft fusion of contact that felt like a puff, I melded
back into my body. My body felt comfortable, familiar, but it
also felt restricting and cumbersome and limiting ... I was
glad to be back, but knew that I would want to go out again.”
Astral Project and Bilocation
84. (Out On .4 Limb, by Shirley MacLaine,
Bantam Books, 1983, pp. 327-329)
Astral Project and Bilocation Anti-Trinitarians
A study of the Godhead – as it pertains to
Seventh-day Adventism by Terry Hill, Chapter
twenty , The Holy Spirit - spirit of prophecy
comments (part 2) ,page 331
Jesus said here to His disciples, it is evident that
when the Comforter came it would be both God
the Father and Christ that came
(“we will come unto him”) yet not bodily.
This is because bodily, both God the
Father and Christ would still be in heaven.
… The Holy Spirit was not another person with
individuality like God and Christ but was both of
them (God and Christ) omnipresent. In other
words, the Holy Spirit was said to be the Spirit of
both God and Christ .”
"And attached to my spirit was a thin, thin silver
cord that remained stretched though attached
to my body in the pool of water.
I wasn't in a dream. No, I was conscious of
everything, it seemed. I was even conscious
that I didn't want to soar too high ...
I definitely felt connected. What was certain to
me was that I felt two forms
... my body form below and my spirit form that
soared. I was in two places at once, and I
accepted it completely ... I watched the silver
cord attached to my body. ”
85. (Out On .4 Limb, by Shirley MacLaine,
Bantam Books, 1983, pp. 327-329)
Astral Project and Bilocation Anti-Trinitarians
“ It was “expedient” for Christ to leave this
earth and return to his Father that he might
dispense his omnipresent Spirit to all his
children. And his Spirit is a real person,
the personality of Jesus Christ himself.
It is his mind, his “conscious presence.”
Not that of a separate person. "
“ My spirit or mind or soul, or whatever it was,
climbed higher into space. Right through the
ceiling of the pool house and upward over the
twilight river. I literally felt I was flying ...
What was certain to me was that I felt two
forms ... my body form below and my spirit form
that soared. I was in two places at once, and I
accepted it completely ...
I directed myself downward, back to my body.
Slowly I descended ... with a soft fusion of
contact that felt like a puff, I melded back into
my body. "
THESOS MAGAZINE ,volume 8, page 11-
12
“ So, Jesus is still with us today.
His Bodily presence is in heaven.
His Divine presence is on earth. ”
86. Astral Project and Bilocation Anti-Trinitarians
“ It was “expedient” for Christ to leave this
earth and return to his Father that he might
dispense his omnipresent Spirit to all his
children. And his Spirit is a real person,
the personality of Jesus Christ himself.
It is his mind, his “conscious presence.”
Not that of a separate person. "
“Multiple or simultaneous presence of the
same substance or soul in two places distant
from each other. Bilocationshave been
frequently reported in the lives of the saints.”
- John Hardon's Modern Catholic Dictionary, page 67
THESOS MAGAZINE ,volume 8, page 11-
12
“ So, Jesus is still with us today.
His Bodily presence is in heaven.
His Divine presence is on earth. ”
“ The appearance of an individual in two
places simultaneously….The prevailing theory
suggests that it is a projection of a double. In
appearance to others the double may appear
to be a solid physical form, or may be ghostly. "
https://www.themystica.com/mystica/articles/b/bilocatio
n.html
92. When He should come forth from the tomb, their
sorrow would be turned to joy. After His ascension He
was to be absent in person; but through the Comforter
He would still be with them, and they were not to spend
their time in mourning. This was what Satan wanted.
He desired them to give the world the impression that
they had been deceived and disappointed; but by faith
they were to look to the sanctuary above, where Jesus
was ministering for them; they were to open their hearts
to the Holy Spirit, His representative, and to rejoice in
the light of His presence.
-E.G. White, The Desire of ages , page 277
93. Yet days of temptation and trial would come,
when they would be brought into conflict with the
rulers of this world, and the leaders of the
kingdom of darkness; when Christ was not
personally with them, and they failed to discern
the Comforter, then it would be more fitting for
them to fast.
-E.G. White, The Desire of ages , page 277
94. Cumbered with humanity, Christ could not
be in every place personally; therefore it
was altogether for their advantage that He
should leave them, go to His father, and
send the Holy Spirit to be His successor on
earth. The Holy Spirit is Himself divested of
the personality of humanity and independent
thereof. He would represent Himself as
present in all places by His Holy Spirit, as
the Omnipresent.
-Manuscript Release ,Vol.14 ,page 23.3
95. “The Holy Spirit is Christ's representative, but
divested of the personality of humanity, and
independent thereof. Cumbered with humanity,
Christ could not be in every place personally.
Therefore it was for their interest that He
should go to the Father, and send the Spirit to
be His successor on earth. No one could then
have any advantage because of his location or
his personal contact with Christ. By the Spirit
the Saviour would be accessible to all. In this
sense He would be nearer to them than if He
had not ascended on high.” DA 669.2
98. In contemplating the incarnation of Christ in humanity, we stand baffled before an
unfathomable mystery, that the human mind cannot comprehend. The more we
reflect upon it, the more amazing does it appear. How wide is the contrast between
the divinity of Christ and the helpless infant in Bethlehem's manger! How can we
span the distance between the mighty God and a helpless child? And yet the Creator
of worlds, He in whom was the fullness of the Godhead bodily, was manifest in the
helpless babe in the manger.
--The Signs of the Times, July 30, 1896.
99. Far higher than any of the angels, equal with the Father in dignity and glory, and
yet wearing the garb of humanity!
. It is in this union that we find the hope
of our fallen race. Looking upon , we look upon God, and see in
Him the brightness of His glory, the express image of His person.
--The Signs of the Times, July 30, 1896. {7ABC 443.3}
101. The Review and Herald, July 5, 1887
He was God while upon earth, but He divested Himself of the form of God,
and in its stead took the form and fashion of a man. He walked the earth as a
man. For our sakes He became Poor, that we through His poverty might be
made rich. He laid aside His glory and His majesty. He was God, but the
glories of the form of God He for a while relinquished. Though He walked
among men in poverty, scattering His blessings wherever He went, at His word
legions of angels would surround their Redeemer, and do Him homage.
102. “Clad in the vestments of humanity, the Son of God came down to the
level of those He wished to save. In Him was no guile or sinfulness; He was
ever pure and undefiled; yet He took upon Him our sinful nature. Clothing
His divinity with humanity, that He might associate with fallen humanity, He
sought to redeem for man that which by disobedience Adam had lost.”
Review and Herald, August 22, 1907.
104. “When Christ took human nature upon Him, He
bound humanity to Himself by a tie of love that can
never be broken by any power save the choice of
man himself.” Steps to Christ ,pg. 72
“He gave His only-begotten Son to come to earth, to
take the nature of man, not only for the brief years of
life, but to retain his nature in the heavenly courts, an
everlasting pledge of the faithfulness of God.”
Selected Messages, bk. 1, 258.
105. “By taking our nature, He bound Himself to us
through eternal ages . He is our representative
and head. He represents our race before God, still
and forever bearing the humanity of the race.”
Signs of the Times, January 27, 1898.
106. “To assure us of His immutable counsel of peace,
God gave His only-begotten Son to become one of
the human family, forever to retain His human
nature. This is the pledge that God will fulfill His
word.”
(Desire of Ages, pg 25; S.D.A. Bible Commentary, Vol.
7A, pg 456; The Faith I Live By, pg 45; [similar in]
Review & Herald, April 3, 1894; S.D.A. Bible
Commentary, Vol. 7A, pg 488).
107. I”n taking our nature, the Saviour has bound
Himself to humanity by a tie that is never to be
broken. Through the eternal ages He is linked
with us…. To assure us of His immutable counsel
of peace, God gave His only-begotten Son to
become one of the human family, forever to
retain His human nature…. God has adopted
human nature in the . person of His Son, and has
carried the same into the highest heaven.”
(Reflecting Christ, pg 45).
108. “Christ thought it not robbery to be equal with God,
and yet He pleased not Himself. He took upon
Himself human nature for no other purpose than to
place man on vantage ground before the world and
the whole heavenly universe.
He carries sanctified humanity to heaven, there
always to retain humanity as it would have been if
man had never violated God’s law. The overcomers,
who upon the earth were partakers of the divine
nature, He makes kings and priests unto God.”
The Upward Look, 313.
109.
110.
111. Spiritualism in the last days and the truth about the Holy Spirit
slides 19, 20,22 Gods Love P.O Box 542
"There is a difference between the ministering spirits of God and the Spirit of God
- both referred to as "Holy Spirit" and "Holy Ghost”
Zechariah 6:5 And the angel answered and said unto me, These are the four spirits
of the heavens, which go forth from standing before the Lord of all the earth.
MINISTERING SPIRITS- ANGELS
Acts 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with
power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the
devil; for God was with him.
“Holy Ghost” here is that which Jesus was anointed
112. ANTI-TRINITARIAN ADVENTISM
Mighty Angel's Ministries
The Mystery of the Holy Spirit Revealed A Divine Secrete That Has Been Kept For Ages, page 3
“ The Holy spirit was discovered to be not a
single person who is God or a Spirit that God
possesses: but a name for the agency in which
God will work as a representative. And this
agency is the ministration of the Holy Angels.
The "THIRD PERSON" is an alternative
for this agency or the Holy Spirit. ”
113.
114. http://www.islamawareness.net/Angels/fatwa_holyspirit.html
Dear scholars, As-Salamu `alaykum. I was a Christian before, and now I
am confused about the definition of the Holy Spirit. What is the Holy
Spirit according to Islam? I would like to know the meaning of the Holy
Spirit specifically in surat al-Ma'idah (5: 110). Jazakum Allah khayran.
What Is Meant by the Holy Spirit in the Qur'an?
As-Salamu `alaykum
115. http://www.islamawareness.net/Angels/fatwa_holyspirit.html
What Is Meant by the Holy Spirit in the Qur'an?
As-Salamu `alaykum
Answering the question you raised, Sheikh Ahmad Kutty, a senior lecturer and Islamic
scholar at the Islamic Institute of Toronto, Ontario, Canada, states:
" also
known as Jibraaeel; he is the message-bearer par excellence from Allah, the Lord of
Glory and Grace; he is also the conduit of divine support and assistance bestowed on
Prophets, Messengers as well as righteous people who strive in the path of Allah.
116. http://www.whyislam.org/common-ground/christianity-and-islam/
What Is Meant by the Holy Spirit in the Qur'an?
As-Salamu `alaykum
“Even more perplexing for Muslims is the doctrine that Jesus
is the Second Person of the Trinity. For Muslims, there is only
one God, and Jesus is one of his greatest creatures. Christians
agree that there is only one God. But they add that the one
God subsists in three persons: The Father, the Son, and the
Holy Spirit. To Muslims, however, the Holy Spirit is the angel
Gabriel; and of the three persons only The Father, whom
Muslims call Allah, can be truly God. Hence the simple
Muslim declaration of faith: “There is no god but God.”
117.
118. Mighty Angel's Ministries
The Mystery of the Holy Spirit Revealed A Divine
Secrete That Has Been Kept For Ages, page 3
“ The Holy spirit was discovered to be
not a single person who is God or a
Spirit that God possesses: but a name for
the agency in which God will work as a
representative. And this agency is the
ministration of the Holy Angels. The
"THIRD PERSON" is an alternative
for this agency or the Holy Spirit.”
Some Anti-Trinitarians and Islam teaches that the
Holy Spirit is Gabriel or God’s Angels
What Is Meant by the Holy Spirit in the Qur'an?
As-Salamu `alaykum
Answering the question you raised, Sheikh Ahmad
Kutty, a senior lecturer and Islamic scholar at the
Islamic Institute of Toronto, Ontario, Canada, states:
“ The Holy Spirit mentioned in the above
verse refers to the Angel Jibreel (Gabriel), also
known as Jibraaeel; he is the message-bearer par
excellence from Allah, the Lord of Glory and Grace… ”
http://www.whyislam.org/common-
ground/christianity-and-islam/
122. The following quotes show that The Angels are in addition to
the Holy Spirit and are different form him. The first group of
seven quotes mention the Holy Spirit separately from the
angels. The word “and” which joins them shows that the
angels are in addition to the Holy Spirit.
129. Clear Statement
(Manuscript 130, Nov. 27, 1901, pg 18; Manuscript Releases, Vol. 16, pg 205; [partly in] S.D.A. Bible
Commentary, Vol. 7A, pg 442; Evangelism, pg616. Punctuation and wording as in Manuscript Releases).
“But they were not left to fight the battles in
their own human strength. The angelic host
coming as ministers of God would be in that
battle. Also there would be the eternal heavenly
dignitaries--God, and Christ, and the Holy
Spirit--arming them with more than mortal
energy, and would advance with them to the
work, and convince the world of sin. ”