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Running Cloud Foundry 
An Experience Report
About this talk
• Receive an opinion about running Cloud 
Foundry (CF) 
• How to shoot your own leg with CF and 
overcommitment settings 
• How to perform CF updates 
• How to harden CF 
• Wise words about CF services
Introduction
about.me/fischerjulian
Running a public 
Cloud Foundry 
for more than a year.
It works.
In order to run 
Cloud Foundry smoothly …
… refer to the package leaflet for 
risks and side effects and consult 
pivotal, cloudcredo or anynines.“
The details
The anynines Stack
Cloud Foundry 
OpenStack 
VMware 
Hardware
We migrated from a 
Rented VMware to a 
self-hosted OpenStack.
For more details on this: 
http://rh.gd/a9vmw2sos
Proof point made…
Cloud Foundry 
saves investments into 
software development 
by being 
infrastructure agnostic.
Running Cloud Foundry. 
What happened.
Security Issues
• Pivotal informs partners early about 
issued 
• Usually along with fixes
OpenStack Issues
• Ext4 vs. Ext3 
• DEA MTU 
• rsyslogd command not found
CF Gotchas
DEA evacuate & Bosh 
timeout race-condition
• Removing a DEA 
→ Apps will be evacuated 
→ DEA will be stopped 
• Bosh deployment will fail when 
evacuation takes longer than the Bosh 
timeout 
• Set your Bosh timeout accordingly!
DEA over-commitment
Default overcommitment 
factor = 4
RAM peaks may cause 
random errors
• Failures during staging 
• Random application crashes 
• No meaningful log information
Reducing over-commitment
• Native strategy 
• Reduce over-commitment factor 
• Bosh deploy
• 8 GB VM, OC factor 4 
→ Announces 32 GB (V)RAM 
• 8 GB VM, OC factor 2 
→ Announces 16 GB (V)RAM 
• When evacuating a 32 GB (V)RAM host, 
another 32 GB (V)RAM host will be 
preferred (more free space)
Evacuation Wave
1 GB 
1 GB 
1 GB 
1 GB
= maximum impact on 
running apps!
New DEAs (OC 2) will 
receive apps when old DEAs 
(OC 4) have been stopped.
Hints
• Create 2nd resource pool for new DEAs 
• Deploy the 2nd resource pool before 
startup to stop old DEAs 
• (-) Needs more resources 
• (+) Smoother transition
Updating Cloud Foundry
Required: 
Staging System
• Structurally identical 
• Less VMs
1. 
Determine new features 
since last release
2. 
Study 
deployment manifest 
changes
3. 
Apply 
deployment manifest 
changes
4. 
First staging attempt
5. 
Debug and Fix it!
6. 
Simulate the live-upgrade
7. 
Schedule maintenance on 
status.anynines.com
8. 
Perform the upgrade 
and cross fingers.
CF Hardening
Accept that VMs are 
ephemeral
VM Failover Strategies
Resurrect
• Monitor VM 
• Re-Build VMs automatically 
• e.g. using Cloud Foundry Bosh 
• + Easy 
• - Takes long (minutes not seconds) 
• - Open Stack doesn’t release persistent 
disks automatically
Failover to Standby VM
Distribute CF components 
across availability zones
• Build disjunct networks, racks, etc. 
• Each disjunct zone = availability zone 
• Tell your IaaS about availability zones 
• On provision choose the AZ 
• Build Bosh releases accordingly
• Provide stand-by VM 
• Monitor VM and perform failover 
• IP failover using Pacemaker 
• + Fast failover (seconds) 
• - Pacemaker not easy to use (& boshify) 
• - Increased resource usage by stdby 
VM(s)
• 2 * UAA 
• 2 * CC 
• 2 * n * DEAs 
• 2 * Health Manager 
• …
UAA & CC DB 
= 
SPOF
HA Postgres
• UAA and Cloud Controller database 
• Single point of failure for Cloud Foundry
• Postgres not inherently clusterable > 
failover with standby vm 
• Master/slave replication 
• Pacemaker/corosync 
• IP-Failover using NIC-reattachment
That’s half way towards a 
PostgreSQL CF Service
• Add a V2 Service Broker 
• Add a provisioning logic 
• Provision 2-node db cluster on 
cf create service postgres medium-cluster
Services
“The best way to find yourself is to lose 
yourself in the service of others.” 
― Mahatma Gandhi
Wardenized Services 
(community services) 
are cute for pet projects.
Not suitable for production.
• Implementations are outdated 
• One size doesn’t fit all!
No production CF without 
high quality services.
CF Service Design
• Use clusterable services if possible 
• Implement automatic failover if not 
• Autoprovisioning using Bosh 
• Organize self-healing 
• (Semi-)Automatic recovery from 
degraded mode
Summary
• Bosh & the CF release are powerful, yet 
you can cut yourself. 
• HA Services are very necessary. 
• CF is ready to be used in production.
Questions?
Thank you!

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