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Talk given to product design students in Antwerp on February 11th 2013 at the Artesis Workshop Week.

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The Future is bright . Alexandra Deschamps-Sonsino alex@designswarm.com @iotwatch Artesis Week Workshop Antwerp, Feb 11th 2013
Who? Product & Interaction design education Online Information architecture & strategy User-led R&D for mobile Tinker London first distributor of the Arduino in the UK Designswarm internet of things consultancy Good Night Lamp a family of internet-connected lamps
Thoughts for future happiness.
1 Design is a cultural & economic act.
Your work exists within someone’s budget.
Advertising.
Training.
Corporate Research.
Corporate Product Development.
Consumers’ disposable income.
2 Learn how to play.
Explore technology differently.
Write differently.
Remind you in a playful way.
3 Be ready to learn & collaborate.
HTML, CSS & php
Flash
Arduino
On-demand fabrication
4 Making & comms come hand in hand.
But doesn’t necessarily mean you’re selling.
FRSTEE (2011) made: 155 Press: 0
Topoware (2007) made: 50 sold: 20 Press: some CO NOWEGO TRENDY 1 2 TO WARTO MIEĆ LIMITOWANA EDYCJA TOREB PORTUGALSKIEGO DUETU PROJEKTANTÓW JORGE MOITA I DANIELI PAIS. 1 Tajemniczy Ogród – Chichen Itza Bird. Inspirowane zdjęciem Paris Wakefield. 3 1. Projekt Muzeum Sztuki Nowoczesnej 4 w Warszawie, 2 Fernando Saco Pega – szydełkowa Romero. aplikacja wykonana przez 2. Wnętrze portugalskie więźniarki. Muzeum Guggenheima w Nowym Jorku, 5 Frank Lloyd Wright, 1959. 3. Fotel z tektury Red Beaver 1986/2005, PIĘTRA I WARSTWY Frank Gehry. 3 4. Naczynia ZDJĘCIA MICHAŁ MROWIEC, G-M STUDIO, IMAXTREE.COM, DAVID M. HEALD, © SRGF, NEW YORK, MATERIAŁY PRASOWE LA.GA Fabrica – jamajski i podkładka klimat. Projekt Jorge Moity Designerzy i projektanci mody zainspirowali się kartografią i programem Google Earth. Teraz linie poziomicowe są na ze sklejki jak mapa 3D z Google, i Danieli Pais. MODA LUX W BIELI meblach, domach i ubraniach. Alexandra SatisFashion to nowy butik ze starannie wyselekcjonowaną Deschamps- odzieżą, obuwiem i modnymi gadżetami. Można tu kupić ubrania aczęło się od warstwowej archi- rozwinął Fernando Romero, tworząc Sonsino i Karola z wyższej półki, znanych i eleganckich marek, jak Margiella, tektury Muzeum Guggenheima projekt Muzeum Sztuki Nowoczesnej Torkos. Dsquared2, Roberto Cavalli czy Miu Miu. Oprócz samej mody, w Nowym Jorku. Autor projek- w Warszawie, a piętra przeszły z budyn- 5. Sukienka zachwyca wysmakowane, stylizowane na barok wnętrze tu, Frank Lloyd Wright oświad- ków na naczynia, meble i stroje. Swój dżersejowa zaprojektowane przez Monikę Goszcz. czył, że ma dość geometrycznego reżi- słynny „przekrojowy” fotel Frank Gehry kolumbijskiego SatisFashion, ul. Kopernika 13/2, Warszawa mu modernistycznych budynków: „Chcę zrobił z tektury, warstwowe suknie pro- projektanta czegoś organicznego, miękkich linni, jektuje Haider Ackerman. A naczynia jak Haidera Zoom Design Shop, ceny od 125 zł które są bliskie człowiekowi”. Pomysł ten mapy robi Alexandra Deschamps. Ackermana. Zamów na www.zoomzoom.pl Pachnące koralowce Świeca, ukryta w ręcznie malowanym, porcelanowym puzderku, projektu Alberta Pinto. Galeria Niuans Cena 459 zł
Good Night Lamp (2013) made: 0 Press: a lot
5 Respond to your context.
Design?
Bucky vs Drop City
6 Do something different.
Bompas & Parr at the RCA
James Bridle studied computer science
So did Tom Armitage
7 Facebook is not the answer to your digital problems.
Own your own space online.
Be the loudest voice.
If you do not change your direction, you may end up where you are heading. —Lao Tzu
end thanks. good luck.

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The Future is bright

  • 1. The Future is bright . Alexandra Deschamps-Sonsino alex@designswarm.com @iotwatch Artesis Week Workshop Antwerp, Feb 11th 2013
  • 2. Who? Product & Interaction design education Online Information architecture & strategy User-led R&D for mobile Tinker London first distributor of the Arduino in the UK Designswarm internet of things consultancy Good Night Lamp a family of internet-connected lamps
  • 3. Thoughts for future happiness.
  • 4. 1 Design is a cultural & economic act.
  • 5. Your work exists within someone’s budget.
  • 11. 2 Learn how to play.
  • 14. Remind you in a playful way.
  • 15. 3 Be ready to learn & collaborate.
  • 16. HTML, CSS & php
  • 17. Flash
  • 20. 4 Making & comms come hand in hand.
  • 21. But doesn’t necessarily mean you’re selling.
  • 22. FRSTEE (2011) made: 155 Press: 0
  • 23. Topoware (2007) made: 50 sold: 20 Press: some CO NOWEGO TRENDY 1 2 TO WARTO MIEĆ LIMITOWANA EDYCJA TOREB PORTUGALSKIEGO DUETU PROJEKTANTÓW JORGE MOITA I DANIELI PAIS. 1 Tajemniczy Ogród – Chichen Itza Bird. Inspirowane zdjęciem Paris Wakefield. 3 1. Projekt Muzeum Sztuki Nowoczesnej 4 w Warszawie, 2 Fernando Saco Pega – szydełkowa Romero. aplikacja wykonana przez 2. Wnętrze portugalskie więźniarki. Muzeum Guggenheima w Nowym Jorku, 5 Frank Lloyd Wright, 1959. 3. Fotel z tektury Red Beaver 1986/2005, PIĘTRA I WARSTWY Frank Gehry. 3 4. Naczynia ZDJĘCIA MICHAŁ MROWIEC, G-M STUDIO, IMAXTREE.COM, DAVID M. HEALD, © SRGF, NEW YORK, MATERIAŁY PRASOWE LA.GA Fabrica – jamajski i podkładka klimat. Projekt Jorge Moity Designerzy i projektanci mody zainspirowali się kartografią i programem Google Earth. Teraz linie poziomicowe są na ze sklejki jak mapa 3D z Google, i Danieli Pais. MODA LUX W BIELI meblach, domach i ubraniach. Alexandra SatisFashion to nowy butik ze starannie wyselekcjonowaną Deschamps- odzieżą, obuwiem i modnymi gadżetami. Można tu kupić ubrania aczęło się od warstwowej archi- rozwinął Fernando Romero, tworząc Sonsino i Karola z wyższej półki, znanych i eleganckich marek, jak Margiella, tektury Muzeum Guggenheima projekt Muzeum Sztuki Nowoczesnej Torkos. Dsquared2, Roberto Cavalli czy Miu Miu. Oprócz samej mody, w Nowym Jorku. Autor projek- w Warszawie, a piętra przeszły z budyn- 5. Sukienka zachwyca wysmakowane, stylizowane na barok wnętrze tu, Frank Lloyd Wright oświad- ków na naczynia, meble i stroje. Swój dżersejowa zaprojektowane przez Monikę Goszcz. czył, że ma dość geometrycznego reżi- słynny „przekrojowy” fotel Frank Gehry kolumbijskiego SatisFashion, ul. Kopernika 13/2, Warszawa mu modernistycznych budynków: „Chcę zrobił z tektury, warstwowe suknie pro- projektanta czegoś organicznego, miękkich linni, jektuje Haider Ackerman. A naczynia jak Haidera Zoom Design Shop, ceny od 125 zł które są bliskie człowiekowi”. Pomysł ten mapy robi Alexandra Deschamps. Ackermana. Zamów na www.zoomzoom.pl Pachnące koralowce Świeca, ukryta w ręcznie malowanym, porcelanowym puzderku, projektu Alberta Pinto. Galeria Niuans Cena 459 zł
  • 24. Good Night Lamp (2013) made: 0 Press: a lot
  • 25. 5 Respond to your context.
  • 27.
  • 29. 6 Do something different.
  • 30. Bompas & Parr at the RCA
  • 31. James Bridle studied computer science
  • 32. So did Tom Armitage
  • 33. 7 Facebook is not the answer to your digital problems.
  • 34. Own your own space online.
  • 35. Be the loudest voice.
  • 36. If you do not change your direction, you may end up where you are heading. —Lao Tzu
  • 37. end thanks. good luck.