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Obtaining Competitive Info: Tools and Ethics/Morals
In this session, we will present traditional as well as innovative ways to obtain competitive
information and then discuss the ethics and morals behind using these techniques.
                                                                   g             q

You will learn:
-- How to download an entire website for evaluation
-- How social media mining can help to find competitive information
                          g        p            p
-- What SEO tools can be used to learn about your competitors keywords, ad spend, etc.
-- What job boards can tell you about competitors

We will discuss (Warning, everyone may not agree ☺) :
                     (        g,     y        y       g     )
-- Should you ask customers for competitor presentations / RFP answers?
-- If it’s right to act as a consult when calling into competitors
-- Whether joining competitor user groups / mailing lists under an alias


Gary Palgon; CISSP                                  John Mansour
VP Product Management and Strategy                  Managing Partner
Liaison Technologies                                Proficientz
                                                      o ce
TYPICAL TOOLS OF THE TRADE

 Industry Analysts
        y     y
 Trade Shows
 Focus Groups
 Customer Advisory Boards
 Professional Services or Customer Support
 Competitor Collateral
 User groups
 Third party analysis/testing

 And many more…more to follow
          more more
THIRD PARTY WIN/LOSS ANALYSIS:


  The
  Th customer didn’t h
        t     did ’t have sufficient f di
                            ffi i t funding
     We went with a vendor that worked with us.
  Our product doesn’t have the right features
              doesn t
     You guys came in and blew the demo…!
  The customer lost interest!
     The sales rep never called us back !!




Is it to ask a customer for competitive information?
                               p
   Copy of the RFP answers / presentations?
   View / copy of the competitive product?
JOB BOARDS AND COMPETITOR INTEL

 Can tell you about a new
          y
 product they may be
 developing
 Can tell
 C t ll you about a new
               b t
 market they may be entering




 Is
 I it OK to i
          t inquire about a position t obtain competitive i f ?
                  i   b t       iti to bt i          titi info?
 Is it OK to interview about a position to obtain competitive info?
DOWNLOADING COMPETITOR WEBSITE
http://www.httrack.com/ is a free tool to download websites
- Can ignore robot.txt rules!




Is it OK to download competitor websites?
   Using your normal URL?
   Hiding behind cable provider (e.g. Comcast)
MINING SOCIAL MEDIA




Is it OK to sign up for competitor g p
              g p          p       groups?
   Sign up as yourself?
   Sign up using alias?
SEO INFORMATION AND ADS

www.SpyFu.com
www SpyFu com

Tells you:
- Spend for PPC
- Best paid keyword
  rankings
- Top Ad Competitors
- Paid keywords
- etc…




Is it OK to use competitor names in Pay-Per-Click Ads?
                   p                  y
   As a keyword search term?
   In the ad text?
CALLING INTO COMPETITORS



“Greetings, I’m calling to conduct a
survey about the use of your types
of solutions when used for B2B
blah, blah, blah…I’d like to know if
you’ve seen blah, blah, blah…”




    Is it OK to:
        Pay an outside consultant to call into competitors to obtain
        information (e.g. “survey”)?
        Have an employee to call into competitors to obtain
        information (e.g. “survey”)
What other ways and
thoughts on the ethics?
th   ht     th thi ?
Obtaining Competitive Info: Tools and Ethics/Morals
Is it to ask a customer for competitive information?
    Copy of the RFP answers / presentations?
    View / copy of the competitive product?

   Is it OK to inquire about a position to obtain competitive info?
   Is it OK to interview about a position to obtain competitive info?

Is it OK to download competitor websites?
   Using your normal URL?
   Hiding behind cable provider (e.g. Comcast)

Is it OK to sign up for competitor groups?
    Sign up as yourself?
    Sign up using alias?
Is
I it OK to use competitor names in Pay-Per-Click Ad ?
        t           tit         i P P Cli k Ads?
   As a keyword search term?
   In the ad text?

Is
I it OK to:
        t
   Pay an outside consultant to call into competitors to obtain information (e.g. “survey”)?
   Have an employee to call into competitors to obtain information (e.g. “survey”)

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ProductCamp Atlanta 2011: Competition and Ethics

  • 1. Obtaining Competitive Info: Tools and Ethics/Morals In this session, we will present traditional as well as innovative ways to obtain competitive information and then discuss the ethics and morals behind using these techniques. g q You will learn: -- How to download an entire website for evaluation -- How social media mining can help to find competitive information g p p -- What SEO tools can be used to learn about your competitors keywords, ad spend, etc. -- What job boards can tell you about competitors We will discuss (Warning, everyone may not agree ☺) : ( g, y y g ) -- Should you ask customers for competitor presentations / RFP answers? -- If it’s right to act as a consult when calling into competitors -- Whether joining competitor user groups / mailing lists under an alias Gary Palgon; CISSP John Mansour VP Product Management and Strategy Managing Partner Liaison Technologies Proficientz o ce
  • 2. TYPICAL TOOLS OF THE TRADE Industry Analysts y y Trade Shows Focus Groups Customer Advisory Boards Professional Services or Customer Support Competitor Collateral User groups Third party analysis/testing And many more…more to follow more more
  • 3. THIRD PARTY WIN/LOSS ANALYSIS: The Th customer didn’t h t did ’t have sufficient f di ffi i t funding We went with a vendor that worked with us. Our product doesn’t have the right features doesn t You guys came in and blew the demo…! The customer lost interest! The sales rep never called us back !! Is it to ask a customer for competitive information? p Copy of the RFP answers / presentations? View / copy of the competitive product?
  • 4. JOB BOARDS AND COMPETITOR INTEL Can tell you about a new y product they may be developing Can tell C t ll you about a new b t market they may be entering Is I it OK to i t inquire about a position t obtain competitive i f ? i b t iti to bt i titi info? Is it OK to interview about a position to obtain competitive info?
  • 5. DOWNLOADING COMPETITOR WEBSITE http://www.httrack.com/ is a free tool to download websites - Can ignore robot.txt rules! Is it OK to download competitor websites? Using your normal URL? Hiding behind cable provider (e.g. Comcast)
  • 6. MINING SOCIAL MEDIA Is it OK to sign up for competitor g p g p p groups? Sign up as yourself? Sign up using alias?
  • 7. SEO INFORMATION AND ADS www.SpyFu.com www SpyFu com Tells you: - Spend for PPC - Best paid keyword rankings - Top Ad Competitors - Paid keywords - etc… Is it OK to use competitor names in Pay-Per-Click Ads? p y As a keyword search term? In the ad text?
  • 8. CALLING INTO COMPETITORS “Greetings, I’m calling to conduct a survey about the use of your types of solutions when used for B2B blah, blah, blah…I’d like to know if you’ve seen blah, blah, blah…” Is it OK to: Pay an outside consultant to call into competitors to obtain information (e.g. “survey”)? Have an employee to call into competitors to obtain information (e.g. “survey”)
  • 9. What other ways and thoughts on the ethics? th ht th thi ?
  • 10. Obtaining Competitive Info: Tools and Ethics/Morals Is it to ask a customer for competitive information? Copy of the RFP answers / presentations? View / copy of the competitive product? Is it OK to inquire about a position to obtain competitive info? Is it OK to interview about a position to obtain competitive info? Is it OK to download competitor websites? Using your normal URL? Hiding behind cable provider (e.g. Comcast) Is it OK to sign up for competitor groups? Sign up as yourself? Sign up using alias? Is I it OK to use competitor names in Pay-Per-Click Ad ? t tit i P P Cli k Ads? As a keyword search term? In the ad text? Is I it OK to: t Pay an outside consultant to call into competitors to obtain information (e.g. “survey”)? Have an employee to call into competitors to obtain information (e.g. “survey”)