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Old Philosophers &
New Learning
A talk with all of us (in the room)
Philosophers are often referred to …
During this OEB:
socrates,
Aristoteles,
Niklas Luhmann,
Confucius, Jean
Piaget, John
Dewey, Judith
Butler …
A lot of the discussions e.g. AI,
machine learning, data …are on
‘ethics’ or ‘ethical behaviour’, but …
What do we feel
the need to point
towards
philosophers, and
why so ‘general’ ?
• Is it because we want to raise our
status? To show that we can think?
• Is it because we feel something is
missing when we develop AI, and our
hope lies in philosophy to save us?
• Is it because we want to show, we as
learning developers who produce
machine learning/algorithms… are
actually thinking of humans?
• …
And if we refer to
philosophers and link
them to learning…
what do we choose to
highlight?
• Is there a clear deeper context?
• Do all the speakers who refer to
philosophers know what the full
context of the reference is?
• Is it necessary to know the deeper
meaning of all our references?
• Can philosophy help in our AI, data
science projects? And why do we think
so?
I will list these questions
again at the end
Now let me add some of
my favorite (limiting to
those who are dead)
A Vindication of the
Rights of Woman (1792),
calls for women and men
to be educated equally.
Juan Luis Vives
• Schools should not be for profit
• Organic pedagogy
(Juan Luis Vives, 1492, Valencia,
Spain – 1540, Brugge, Belgium)
Informal learning =>
Living a fearless life
ἀταραξία (ataraxia,) is a Greek philosophy
term used to describe a lucid state of robust
equanimity
Ἐπίκουρος (Epicurus; 341–270 BC) believed
that what he called "pleasure" (ἡδονή) was the
greatest good, but that the way to attain such
pleasure was to live modestly, to gain
knowledge of the workings of the world, and
to limit one's desires
wikipedia
Que sçay-je?
Quand je me joue à ma chatte, qui
sçait si elle passe son temps de
moy plus que je ne fay d’elle ?
[When I play with my cat who
knows if I am not a pastime to her
more than she is to me?] – Michel
de Montaigne (1533-1592)
(Book II, chap. 12, p. 401)
What is my
interest with
them
(currently)
Three blogs, hoping this will give an idea
• Aristotle and echo chambers post
• Short commentary on Mengzi, Socrates
and social media
• Hayek versus Dewey: opposing
thoughts on democracy
So … can old philosophers be of use to new learning: giving us
a compass, providing a looking glass, supporting a case, make
us think deeper?
Maybe start a collaborative online magazine that enables us
to simply reflect and learn?
The Questions I
started with …
The need to refer to them
• Is it because we want to raise our status? To show that we
can think?
• Is it because we feel something is missing when we
develop AI, and our hope lies in philosophy to save us?
• Is it because we want to show, we as learning developers
who produce machine learning/algorithms… are actually
thinking of humans?
What do we choose to highlight in reference to learning?
• Is there a clear deeper context?
• Do all the speakers who refer to philosophers know what
the full context of the reference is?
• Is it necessary to know the deeper meaning of all our
references?
• Can philosophy help in our AI, data science projects? And
why do we think so?

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Old philosophers and new learning an intro

  • 1. Old Philosophers & New Learning A talk with all of us (in the room)
  • 2. Philosophers are often referred to …
  • 3. During this OEB: socrates, Aristoteles, Niklas Luhmann, Confucius, Jean Piaget, John Dewey, Judith Butler …
  • 4. A lot of the discussions e.g. AI, machine learning, data …are on ‘ethics’ or ‘ethical behaviour’, but …
  • 5. What do we feel the need to point towards philosophers, and why so ‘general’ ? • Is it because we want to raise our status? To show that we can think? • Is it because we feel something is missing when we develop AI, and our hope lies in philosophy to save us? • Is it because we want to show, we as learning developers who produce machine learning/algorithms… are actually thinking of humans? • …
  • 6. And if we refer to philosophers and link them to learning… what do we choose to highlight? • Is there a clear deeper context? • Do all the speakers who refer to philosophers know what the full context of the reference is? • Is it necessary to know the deeper meaning of all our references? • Can philosophy help in our AI, data science projects? And why do we think so?
  • 7. I will list these questions again at the end
  • 8. Now let me add some of my favorite (limiting to those who are dead)
  • 9. A Vindication of the Rights of Woman (1792), calls for women and men to be educated equally.
  • 10. Juan Luis Vives • Schools should not be for profit • Organic pedagogy (Juan Luis Vives, 1492, Valencia, Spain – 1540, Brugge, Belgium)
  • 11. Informal learning => Living a fearless life ἀταραξία (ataraxia,) is a Greek philosophy term used to describe a lucid state of robust equanimity Ἐπίκουρος (Epicurus; 341–270 BC) believed that what he called "pleasure" (ἡδονή) was the greatest good, but that the way to attain such pleasure was to live modestly, to gain knowledge of the workings of the world, and to limit one's desires wikipedia
  • 12. Que sçay-je? Quand je me joue à ma chatte, qui sçait si elle passe son temps de moy plus que je ne fay d’elle ? [When I play with my cat who knows if I am not a pastime to her more than she is to me?] – Michel de Montaigne (1533-1592) (Book II, chap. 12, p. 401)
  • 13. What is my interest with them (currently) Three blogs, hoping this will give an idea • Aristotle and echo chambers post • Short commentary on Mengzi, Socrates and social media • Hayek versus Dewey: opposing thoughts on democracy
  • 14. So … can old philosophers be of use to new learning: giving us a compass, providing a looking glass, supporting a case, make us think deeper? Maybe start a collaborative online magazine that enables us to simply reflect and learn?
  • 15. The Questions I started with … The need to refer to them • Is it because we want to raise our status? To show that we can think? • Is it because we feel something is missing when we develop AI, and our hope lies in philosophy to save us? • Is it because we want to show, we as learning developers who produce machine learning/algorithms… are actually thinking of humans? What do we choose to highlight in reference to learning? • Is there a clear deeper context? • Do all the speakers who refer to philosophers know what the full context of the reference is? • Is it necessary to know the deeper meaning of all our references? • Can philosophy help in our AI, data science projects? And why do we think so?

Editor's Notes

  1. Promoting games as a means of instruction
  2. Epicurus believed that what he called "pleasure" (ἡδονή) was the greatest good, but that the way to attain such pleasure was to live modestly, to gain knowledge of the workings of the world, and to limit one's desires Epicurus (/ˌɛpɪˈkjʊərəs/;[2] Greek: Ἐπίκουρος, Epíkouros, "ally, comrade"; 341–270 BC) was an a
  3. which he had set on a personal medallion together with the Greek word epokhe [I hold back, or I reserve judgment], and on a pair of scales to remind himself of the potential equality of strength of two opposing arguments. Montaigne held a high office, he was mayor of … and his family owned a big corporation. In a way, he could choose to go on. But when he was 37 ………… years old, he preyed to god that God would permit him to learn. And however prestigious his professional, political work was … he is now known for his philosophical work and Essays. He introduced the essay as a form of critical thinking and to describe personal learning.