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How Much Do You 

Open Your Kimono? 
Does "Thought Leadership"
Cannibalize Your Ability to
 Monetize What You Know?

Jay Baer and Joe Pulizzi
@jaybaer       @juntajoe
Thought Leadership

             OH YEAH!
Thought Leadership
A Goal of Content
Marketing Strategy
Why Does It Matter?
                          Elise Bauer




   The recognition from the outside world that
the company deeply understands its business,
  the needs of its customers, and the broader
       marketplace in which it operates.
Tying Content to Revenue

The 6 Stages of
Opening the Kimono
1. Closed Kimono
  No Online Thought Leadership
MarketFace
  Enterprise customer experience
   consulting
  Since 2001
  Clients include:
      Virgin America
      OfficeMax
      Skechers
      Toyota
MarketFace
  No online thought leadership
  Case studies not for public distribution
MarketFace
    Significant repeat and WOM business
    Vertical-focused, easier to drive WOM
    Small company, time constraints
    Highly customized process
MarketFace
  Questions whether his target audience
   (C-Suite) consumes content online
   (writing a book at present)

 If you can’t do it well, is content a
  net positive for your brand? 
- Michael Roberts – President
1. Closed Kimono
  No Online Thought Leadership

PRO
  Zero time investment
  Focus on detailed, long-form, custom
   content

CON
  Limited exposure in Search
  Reduced ability to build online influence
2. What Happens in Vegas
  Thought Leadership on Distributed
   Micro Platforms
      LinkedIn and Facebook Groups
      Twitter Curation
      Blog Comments
Lisa Loeffler
    Founder, Genuine Media Co.
    Social media strategy and advice
    Since 2008
    Clients include:
        Valerie Fitzgerald Group
        E-storm Intl (Puma, Gucci, Volcom)
        Collegiate Licensing Company
Lisa Loeffler
  Limited long-form thought leadership
      1 post/month on e-storm blog
  Active in Twitter (content curation)
  Participant in industry surveys/studies
  Active presence in Facebook groups
   dedicated to social marketing
  Many Empire Avenue connections
  Prefers the 1:1 nature of micro thought
   leadership and interactions
Lisa Loeffler
  Built hundreds of relationships on EA
  Met her new business partner on that
   platform in June, 2011
Lisa Loeffler
  The Poll Taker
  Free, real-time, platform-agnostic polling
   platform
Lisa Loeffler
  Believe thought leadership is derived
   from long-term engagement more so
   than content creation


 To be considered a leader in any
  field one must build and gain
  trust within their communities 
- Lisa Loeffler – Founder
2. What Happens in Vegas
  Distributed Micro Thought Leadership
      LinkedIn Answers
      Twitter News Distribution
      Blog Comments
PRO
  Original content not required
  Can become trusted community
   resource
CON
  No ability to drive to lead source
  Limited search engine potential
2. What Happens in Vegas
AUDIENCE VOTE
  Is this a comfortable level of
   openness for you and your
   company?



     YES                   NO
3. Quid Pro Quo
  Selling Thought Leadership
      E-Books
      How-To Packages
      eNewsletter Subscriber Packages
Bob Bly
  Bob Bly – Leading direct marketing
   copywriter and informational product
   guru.
Bob Bly
  Selling Thought Leadership
    •  Step 1: Free eNewsletter builds your
       list to market to.
Bob Bly
  Selling Thought Leadership
    •  Step 1: ROI Calculator provides opt-in
       signups.
Bob Bly
  Selling Thought Leadership
    •  Step 1: Free eNewsletter and ROI
       Calculator builds your list to market to.
    •  Step 2: Sample reports provide some
       sharing – promotion of newsletter and
       more free reports (email address)
Bob Bly
  Selling Thought Leadership
    •  Step 1: Free eNewsletter and ROI
       Calculator builds your list to market to.
    •  Step 2: Sample reports provide some
       sharing – promotion of newsletter and
       more free reports (email address)
    •  Step 3: Paid offers (money-back
       guarantee), marketed through email
       and sample reports
Bob Bly
  The How
    •  Free reports are compilations of
       already published reports.
    •  Key combination of volume (number
       of pages), quality AND packaging.
    •  Free information talks of the
       possibilities…paid information goes
       into all the details.
Bob Bly
  Six-Figure Email List
  Free premium reports led to increase of
   conversions by 25%.
  Enewsletter conversions doubled AFTER
   free reports were added.
    If your free information is best of breed,
  subscribers will assume your paid
  information is best of breed. If free
  information is bad, they’ll never want your
  paid stuff. 
  - Bob Bly
3. Quid Pro Quo
  Selling Thought Leadership
      E-Books
      How-Tos/Tutorials
PRO
  Recurring revenue
  Passive income
CON
  Can be difficult to upgrade to fully paid
   services
  Must test exhaustively
3. Quid Pro Quo
AUDIENCE VOTE
  Is this a comfortable level of
   openness for you and your
   company?



     YES                   NO
4. Give Me Your Number
  Lead-Gated Thought Leadership
      Place content behind
       mandatory lead generation
       forms, etc.
ExactTarget
  Interactive marketing SAAS company
  One of the world s largest email service
   providers
  Customers include:
      Groupon
      Nike
      Microsoft
ExactTarget
  Multiple content initiatives
      Subscriber, Fans, Followers Research
      Blog
      Forrester White Papers
      Field Guides
      Letters to the C-Suite
      Email Newsletters
  Enterprise-wide analysis of role of content   in
   leads and sales process, including client
   renewals
ExactTarget
  Content creation is decentralized
  Different areas of the company create
   content to serve their purposes
   (often lead generation)
ExactTarget
  10-part research series
  Tens of thousands of downloads
  Hundreds of thousands of dollars in direct
   sales
  Millions of dollars in indirect sales
ExactTarget
  More content and more use for lead
   nurturing, not just lead generation

 We will become more journalistic,
  empowering more people within
  the company to create content. 
- Jeff Rohrs – Vice President of Marketing
4. Give Me Your Number
  Lead-Gated Thought Leadership
      Place content behind mandatory
       lead generation forms, etc.
PRO
  River of leads for sales team
  Trackable
CON
  No control over lead quality
  Reduces consumption rate
  Lack of shareability
4. Give Me Your Number
AUDIENCE VOTE
  Is this a comfortable level of
   openness for you and your
   company?



     YES                   NO
5. Peek-a-Boo
  Giving Away What You Know But
   Not the Process
      Heavy blogging
      Presentations
      Video Demonstrations
Openview Venture Partners
  Leading value-add venture capitalist
   organization
  Invests $5 to $15 million in technology
   companies between $2 and $20 million.
  Investments include:
    –  Zmags
    –  Balihoo
    –  Central Desktop
    –  Monetate
Openview Venture Partners
  Started with an employee blog and now
   has 90% employee participation.
  Full audio and video studio.
  Employs a full-time journalist to
   coordinate activities.
Openview Venture Partners
  Integrates blog into full tech-startup
   resource site called Openview Labs.
  Over 1,000 podcasts, videos and articles.
  Multiple pieces distributed per day via
   blog and social media.
Openview Venture Partners
 Results
      Over 8,500 email subscribers in 18
       months…25% open rate.
      Significantly shortened sales cycle.
      Closed deals directly from online
       content.
  A year ago, no one knew who we were. Now,
 when we speak with CEOs, we find that they’ve
 already heard of us and they get what we’re
 about. 
 Scott Maxwell, CEO, Openview Venture Partners
5. Peek-a-Boo
  Giving Away What You Know But
   Not the Process

PRO
  Heavy awareness
  SEO and PR benefits
CON
  Tons of effort required
  Devalues each piece of content?
5. Peek-a-Boo
AUDIENCE VOTE
  Is this a comfortable level of
   openness for you and your
   company?



     YES                   NO
6. The Full Monty
  Giving It All Away
  Creating Content That is Outside Your
   Core Category
Eloqua
  Marketing automation software company
  Leaders in lead generation and nurturing
  Clients include:
      Sony
      Dow Jones
      Johnson & Johnson
Eloqua
  Exceptionally broad and comprehensive
   content program
  Team includes in-house journalists
  Very robust digital dandelion program,
   with content residing at Eloqua.com and
   many other places online
  No lead gates for offsite content
  Sends content to current leads and
   customers as exclusive sneak peek
A	
  Form	
  is	
  the	
  
Eloqua                     Enemy	
  of	
  Spread	
  

  Huge Slideshare program
  Millions in revenue from Grande Guides
  Lead form is AFTER the content
Eloqua
  Substantial content created outside core
   business focus
  Initially, significant internal opposition
98,259	
  
Eloqua                      Slideshare	
  Views	
  

  New content helps others become
   content marketers, creating leads that
   need automation (virtuous circle)
Eloqua
  We focus content on the 85% of
people that don’t know us, rather
than the 15% who do. 

  18 months ago, we were behind. We
had to get noticed by showing
more skin. 
- Joe Chernov – Vice President of Content
6. The Full Monty
  Giving It All Away
  Creating Content That is Outside Your
   Core Category
PRO
  No barrier to customer
  Can go David & Goliath
CON
  Requires serious effort
  Allows others to steal
  Diverts attention from core attributes
6. The Full Monty
AUDIENCE VOTE
  Is this a comfortable level of
   openness for you and your
   company?



     YES                   NO
Deciding Which is Right
1.    Closed Kimono
2.    What Happens in Vegas
3.    Quid Pro Quo
4.    Give Me Your Number
5.    Peek-a-Boo!
6.    The Full Monty
Testing Scenario
  One piece of thought leadership content
  Multiple ways to treat it

                     1

             6                2
                  Thought
                 Leadership
                  Content
             5                3

                     4
4 Types of Content Metrics

       Consumption   Sharing
         Metrics     Metrics




         Lead
                     Sales
       Generation
                     Metrics
        Metrics
Your Testing Plan
  Available Now:


       Only
      $19.95
Your Testing Plan
  Available Now:
  bit.ly/openkimono
Thanks to All Participants!

  Marketface.com         Exacttarget.com/sff




  Genuinemediaco.com     Labs.OpenViewPartners.com




  Bly.com                Eloqua.com
Questions?




@juntajoe   @jaybaer

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How Much Thought Leadership Should You Share? Evaluating Different Levels of Openness

  • 1. How Much Do You 
 Open Your Kimono? Does "Thought Leadership" Cannibalize Your Ability to Monetize What You Know? Jay Baer and Joe Pulizzi @jaybaer @juntajoe
  • 3. Thought Leadership A Goal of Content Marketing Strategy
  • 4. Why Does It Matter? Elise Bauer The recognition from the outside world that the company deeply understands its business, the needs of its customers, and the broader marketplace in which it operates.
  • 5. Tying Content to Revenue The 6 Stages of Opening the Kimono
  • 6. 1. Closed Kimono   No Online Thought Leadership
  • 7. MarketFace   Enterprise customer experience consulting   Since 2001   Clients include:   Virgin America   OfficeMax   Skechers   Toyota
  • 8. MarketFace   No online thought leadership   Case studies not for public distribution
  • 9. MarketFace   Significant repeat and WOM business   Vertical-focused, easier to drive WOM   Small company, time constraints   Highly customized process
  • 10. MarketFace   Questions whether his target audience (C-Suite) consumes content online (writing a book at present) If you can’t do it well, is content a net positive for your brand? - Michael Roberts – President
  • 11. 1. Closed Kimono   No Online Thought Leadership PRO   Zero time investment   Focus on detailed, long-form, custom content CON   Limited exposure in Search   Reduced ability to build online influence
  • 12. 2. What Happens in Vegas   Thought Leadership on Distributed Micro Platforms   LinkedIn and Facebook Groups   Twitter Curation   Blog Comments
  • 13. Lisa Loeffler   Founder, Genuine Media Co.   Social media strategy and advice   Since 2008   Clients include:   Valerie Fitzgerald Group   E-storm Intl (Puma, Gucci, Volcom)   Collegiate Licensing Company
  • 14. Lisa Loeffler   Limited long-form thought leadership   1 post/month on e-storm blog   Active in Twitter (content curation)   Participant in industry surveys/studies   Active presence in Facebook groups dedicated to social marketing   Many Empire Avenue connections   Prefers the 1:1 nature of micro thought leadership and interactions
  • 15. Lisa Loeffler   Built hundreds of relationships on EA   Met her new business partner on that platform in June, 2011
  • 16. Lisa Loeffler   The Poll Taker   Free, real-time, platform-agnostic polling platform
  • 17. Lisa Loeffler   Believe thought leadership is derived from long-term engagement more so than content creation To be considered a leader in any field one must build and gain trust within their communities - Lisa Loeffler – Founder
  • 18. 2. What Happens in Vegas   Distributed Micro Thought Leadership   LinkedIn Answers   Twitter News Distribution   Blog Comments PRO   Original content not required   Can become trusted community resource CON   No ability to drive to lead source   Limited search engine potential
  • 19. 2. What Happens in Vegas AUDIENCE VOTE   Is this a comfortable level of openness for you and your company? YES NO
  • 20. 3. Quid Pro Quo   Selling Thought Leadership   E-Books   How-To Packages   eNewsletter Subscriber Packages
  • 21. Bob Bly   Bob Bly – Leading direct marketing copywriter and informational product guru.
  • 22. Bob Bly   Selling Thought Leadership •  Step 1: Free eNewsletter builds your list to market to.
  • 23. Bob Bly   Selling Thought Leadership •  Step 1: ROI Calculator provides opt-in signups.
  • 24. Bob Bly   Selling Thought Leadership •  Step 1: Free eNewsletter and ROI Calculator builds your list to market to. •  Step 2: Sample reports provide some sharing – promotion of newsletter and more free reports (email address)
  • 25. Bob Bly   Selling Thought Leadership •  Step 1: Free eNewsletter and ROI Calculator builds your list to market to. •  Step 2: Sample reports provide some sharing – promotion of newsletter and more free reports (email address) •  Step 3: Paid offers (money-back guarantee), marketed through email and sample reports
  • 26. Bob Bly   The How •  Free reports are compilations of already published reports. •  Key combination of volume (number of pages), quality AND packaging. •  Free information talks of the possibilities…paid information goes into all the details.
  • 27. Bob Bly   Six-Figure Email List   Free premium reports led to increase of conversions by 25%.   Enewsletter conversions doubled AFTER free reports were added. If your free information is best of breed, subscribers will assume your paid information is best of breed. If free information is bad, they’ll never want your paid stuff. - Bob Bly
  • 28. 3. Quid Pro Quo   Selling Thought Leadership   E-Books   How-Tos/Tutorials PRO   Recurring revenue   Passive income CON   Can be difficult to upgrade to fully paid services   Must test exhaustively
  • 29. 3. Quid Pro Quo AUDIENCE VOTE   Is this a comfortable level of openness for you and your company? YES NO
  • 30. 4. Give Me Your Number   Lead-Gated Thought Leadership   Place content behind mandatory lead generation forms, etc.
  • 31. ExactTarget   Interactive marketing SAAS company   One of the world s largest email service providers   Customers include:   Groupon   Nike   Microsoft
  • 32. ExactTarget   Multiple content initiatives   Subscriber, Fans, Followers Research   Blog   Forrester White Papers   Field Guides   Letters to the C-Suite   Email Newsletters   Enterprise-wide analysis of role of content in leads and sales process, including client renewals
  • 33. ExactTarget   Content creation is decentralized   Different areas of the company create content to serve their purposes (often lead generation)
  • 34. ExactTarget   10-part research series   Tens of thousands of downloads   Hundreds of thousands of dollars in direct sales   Millions of dollars in indirect sales
  • 35. ExactTarget   More content and more use for lead nurturing, not just lead generation We will become more journalistic, empowering more people within the company to create content. - Jeff Rohrs – Vice President of Marketing
  • 36. 4. Give Me Your Number   Lead-Gated Thought Leadership   Place content behind mandatory lead generation forms, etc. PRO   River of leads for sales team   Trackable CON   No control over lead quality   Reduces consumption rate   Lack of shareability
  • 37. 4. Give Me Your Number AUDIENCE VOTE   Is this a comfortable level of openness for you and your company? YES NO
  • 38. 5. Peek-a-Boo   Giving Away What You Know But Not the Process   Heavy blogging   Presentations   Video Demonstrations
  • 39. Openview Venture Partners   Leading value-add venture capitalist organization   Invests $5 to $15 million in technology companies between $2 and $20 million.   Investments include: –  Zmags –  Balihoo –  Central Desktop –  Monetate
  • 40. Openview Venture Partners   Started with an employee blog and now has 90% employee participation.   Full audio and video studio.   Employs a full-time journalist to coordinate activities.
  • 41. Openview Venture Partners   Integrates blog into full tech-startup resource site called Openview Labs.   Over 1,000 podcasts, videos and articles.   Multiple pieces distributed per day via blog and social media.
  • 42. Openview Venture Partners  Results   Over 8,500 email subscribers in 18 months…25% open rate.   Significantly shortened sales cycle.   Closed deals directly from online content. A year ago, no one knew who we were. Now, when we speak with CEOs, we find that they’ve already heard of us and they get what we’re about. Scott Maxwell, CEO, Openview Venture Partners
  • 43. 5. Peek-a-Boo   Giving Away What You Know But Not the Process PRO   Heavy awareness   SEO and PR benefits CON   Tons of effort required   Devalues each piece of content?
  • 44. 5. Peek-a-Boo AUDIENCE VOTE   Is this a comfortable level of openness for you and your company? YES NO
  • 45. 6. The Full Monty   Giving It All Away   Creating Content That is Outside Your Core Category
  • 46. Eloqua   Marketing automation software company   Leaders in lead generation and nurturing   Clients include:   Sony   Dow Jones   Johnson & Johnson
  • 47. Eloqua   Exceptionally broad and comprehensive content program   Team includes in-house journalists   Very robust digital dandelion program, with content residing at Eloqua.com and many other places online   No lead gates for offsite content   Sends content to current leads and customers as exclusive sneak peek
  • 48. A  Form  is  the   Eloqua Enemy  of  Spread     Huge Slideshare program   Millions in revenue from Grande Guides   Lead form is AFTER the content
  • 49. Eloqua   Substantial content created outside core business focus   Initially, significant internal opposition
  • 50. 98,259   Eloqua Slideshare  Views     New content helps others become content marketers, creating leads that need automation (virtuous circle)
  • 51. Eloqua We focus content on the 85% of people that don’t know us, rather than the 15% who do. 18 months ago, we were behind. We had to get noticed by showing more skin. - Joe Chernov – Vice President of Content
  • 52. 6. The Full Monty   Giving It All Away   Creating Content That is Outside Your Core Category PRO   No barrier to customer   Can go David & Goliath CON   Requires serious effort   Allows others to steal   Diverts attention from core attributes
  • 53. 6. The Full Monty AUDIENCE VOTE   Is this a comfortable level of openness for you and your company? YES NO
  • 54. Deciding Which is Right 1.  Closed Kimono 2.  What Happens in Vegas 3.  Quid Pro Quo 4.  Give Me Your Number 5.  Peek-a-Boo! 6.  The Full Monty
  • 55. Testing Scenario   One piece of thought leadership content   Multiple ways to treat it 1 6 2 Thought Leadership Content 5 3 4
  • 56. 4 Types of Content Metrics Consumption Sharing Metrics Metrics Lead Sales Generation Metrics Metrics
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  • 59. Thanks to All Participants!   Marketface.com   Exacttarget.com/sff   Genuinemediaco.com   Labs.OpenViewPartners.com   Bly.com   Eloqua.com