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TALKIN’ SEX: CHICANAS AND MEXICANAS
BEFORE WE START…
… I WOULD LIKE YOU TO THINK ABOUT THE ARTICLE WE READ
  TITLED,


           “TALKIN’ SEX: CHICANAS AND MEXICANAS”


AND START TO MAKE CONNECTIONS BETWEEN THIS ARTICLE AND
  THE MOVIE,


                “LIKE WATER FOR CHOCOLATE”


FOCUSING ON THE IDEAS ARE REPRESENTED BY THE CHARACTERS
  IN THE MOVIE .
THE PROJECT / INTERVIEWS (1983)


 17 women: 6 born in Mexico/11
  Chicanas
 Meanings of silence and pleasure
 Tension in taking about sex
 Contradictions: acquiescence/
  contestation
 Language used and body language
PROJECT (2)
 Feminists critiqued the Mexican
 culture:

 Virgin-whore (Guadalupe vs.
  Melinche)
 Repressing women‟s sexual desires
 Catholic Church role (marriage)
 Practices to control women‟s bodies
  (clothing)
               By whom? And how?
PROJECT (3)

Women breaking the silence
         Consequences? “escándalo” (scandal)
Chicana lesbian theorists and creative writers
         (resistance to silencing)
Metaphors: “juego and fuego” (play and fire)
Meanings of silence and pleasures
HISTORY OF SEXUALITY AND MARITAL RELATIONS


 First half of the 20th C: taboo topics
 1930s and 1940s:
   - The notions of virile macho men and self-
 sacrificing
     women were constructed in popular culture.
   - Female chastity prior to marriage
 Ritual „Robbing‟ (kidnapping)




           -
HISTORY (2)

1950s:         - Urbanization
               - Feminization of labor force
               - Increasing migration to USA
               - Expansion of popular culture
               - Sexual liberation of women
Late 20th C:    - Much regional variation in sexual
                      practices
               - Globalization
INTERESTING FACTS             (SURVEY)
1. First had sexual intercourse by age 15
                  - 83% young men
                  - 13% women (??)
2. Use of condoms
3. Freedom of being openly affectionate with lover
4. Catholic Church influenced both Mexicans and
  Chicanas
    (different ways regarding abortion and
contraception)
5. “The New Mestiza” by Gloria Anzaldúa (La Frontera:
  more
    than a geographic division)
INTERESTING FACTS (2)
6. Mothers warned about men not about
   lesbianism
7. Differences between Mexicans and
  Chicanas
   regarding silence sexuality/shocking
   experiences/ sex education…
8. Sanctions for sexual experimentation
      - Cochina /dirty
      - Grosera / crude
INTERESTING FACTS (3)
9.   Abuse (context of denial)
10. Masturbation (a bad thing)
11. Menstruation
12. Homosexuality (no education)
13. Virginity (body= map)
14. Chicanas (temptations offered
     by USA popular culture and the
     pressure of peers)
15. Reputation
INTERESTING FACTS (4)

16. Women body (fat) Rosaura
17. Quinceañera
     - Patriarcal control over women‟s
sexuality
     - Similar to weddings
     - Virgen de Guadalupe
     - Ethnic identity
     - Celebration of purity
     - Expression of sexual pleasure
LIST OF PROTAGONISTS


• Write whatever comes to your mind for each
  character that is related to the article “Talkin’ Sex”.


• It can be one word, a sentence, an image, an idea…
VAGINA MONOLOGUES
“DIFFERENT TYPES OF MOANS”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apsKJ1H1gy
  g
TYPES OF MOANS!!!
• Clit moan                •   Mountain moan
• Vagina moan              •   Baby moan
• Combo clit and vagina    •   Doggy moan
  moan
                           •   Inhibited militant bisexual moan
• Almost moan
                           •   machine moan
• Right on it moan
                           •   Torture Zen moan
• Elegant moan
                           •   Diva moan
• Grace Slick moan
                           •   College moan and
• 40 year old moan         •    Surprise triple orgasms
• Jewish moan
• African-American
• Irish moan
BIBLIOGRAPHY
Aldama, Frederick Luis. Brown on Brown.: Chicano/a representations of
   gender sexuality and ethnicity. First edition. University of Texas. 2005.
   Print
González, Juan. Harvest of Empire: A History of Latinos in
   America. Revised edition.


González, Sylvia A. La Chicana: Guadalupe or Malinche. Comparative
   Perspectives of Third World Women: The impact of race, sex and class.
   1980. Pp 229-250. Print
Snook, Margaret L. Elena Poniatowska’s “La piel del cielo”: Mexican History
   Written on the Female Body. American Association of Teachers of Spanish
   and Portuguese. Bridgewater State College. Hispania Vol. 89, No 2, pp
   259-267. Print
Winn, Peter. Americas: The Changing Face of Latin American and the
   Caribbean. Third edition. University of California Press. 2006 Print

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Talkin’ sex

  • 1. TALKIN’ SEX: CHICANAS AND MEXICANAS
  • 2. BEFORE WE START… … I WOULD LIKE YOU TO THINK ABOUT THE ARTICLE WE READ TITLED, “TALKIN’ SEX: CHICANAS AND MEXICANAS” AND START TO MAKE CONNECTIONS BETWEEN THIS ARTICLE AND THE MOVIE, “LIKE WATER FOR CHOCOLATE” FOCUSING ON THE IDEAS ARE REPRESENTED BY THE CHARACTERS IN THE MOVIE .
  • 3. THE PROJECT / INTERVIEWS (1983)  17 women: 6 born in Mexico/11 Chicanas  Meanings of silence and pleasure  Tension in taking about sex  Contradictions: acquiescence/ contestation  Language used and body language
  • 4. PROJECT (2)  Feminists critiqued the Mexican culture: Virgin-whore (Guadalupe vs. Melinche) Repressing women‟s sexual desires Catholic Church role (marriage) Practices to control women‟s bodies (clothing) By whom? And how?
  • 5. PROJECT (3) Women breaking the silence Consequences? “escándalo” (scandal) Chicana lesbian theorists and creative writers (resistance to silencing) Metaphors: “juego and fuego” (play and fire) Meanings of silence and pleasures
  • 6. HISTORY OF SEXUALITY AND MARITAL RELATIONS First half of the 20th C: taboo topics 1930s and 1940s: - The notions of virile macho men and self- sacrificing women were constructed in popular culture. - Female chastity prior to marriage Ritual „Robbing‟ (kidnapping) -
  • 7. HISTORY (2) 1950s: - Urbanization - Feminization of labor force - Increasing migration to USA - Expansion of popular culture - Sexual liberation of women Late 20th C: - Much regional variation in sexual practices - Globalization
  • 8. INTERESTING FACTS (SURVEY) 1. First had sexual intercourse by age 15 - 83% young men - 13% women (??) 2. Use of condoms 3. Freedom of being openly affectionate with lover 4. Catholic Church influenced both Mexicans and Chicanas (different ways regarding abortion and contraception) 5. “The New Mestiza” by Gloria Anzaldúa (La Frontera: more than a geographic division)
  • 9. INTERESTING FACTS (2) 6. Mothers warned about men not about lesbianism 7. Differences between Mexicans and Chicanas regarding silence sexuality/shocking experiences/ sex education… 8. Sanctions for sexual experimentation - Cochina /dirty - Grosera / crude
  • 10. INTERESTING FACTS (3) 9. Abuse (context of denial) 10. Masturbation (a bad thing) 11. Menstruation 12. Homosexuality (no education) 13. Virginity (body= map) 14. Chicanas (temptations offered by USA popular culture and the pressure of peers) 15. Reputation
  • 11. INTERESTING FACTS (4) 16. Women body (fat) Rosaura 17. Quinceañera - Patriarcal control over women‟s sexuality - Similar to weddings - Virgen de Guadalupe - Ethnic identity - Celebration of purity - Expression of sexual pleasure
  • 12. LIST OF PROTAGONISTS • Write whatever comes to your mind for each character that is related to the article “Talkin’ Sex”. • It can be one word, a sentence, an image, an idea…
  • 13. VAGINA MONOLOGUES “DIFFERENT TYPES OF MOANS” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apsKJ1H1gy g
  • 14. TYPES OF MOANS!!! • Clit moan • Mountain moan • Vagina moan • Baby moan • Combo clit and vagina • Doggy moan moan • Inhibited militant bisexual moan • Almost moan • machine moan • Right on it moan • Torture Zen moan • Elegant moan • Diva moan • Grace Slick moan • College moan and • 40 year old moan • Surprise triple orgasms • Jewish moan • African-American • Irish moan
  • 15. BIBLIOGRAPHY Aldama, Frederick Luis. Brown on Brown.: Chicano/a representations of gender sexuality and ethnicity. First edition. University of Texas. 2005. Print González, Juan. Harvest of Empire: A History of Latinos in America. Revised edition. González, Sylvia A. La Chicana: Guadalupe or Malinche. Comparative Perspectives of Third World Women: The impact of race, sex and class. 1980. Pp 229-250. Print Snook, Margaret L. Elena Poniatowska’s “La piel del cielo”: Mexican History Written on the Female Body. American Association of Teachers of Spanish and Portuguese. Bridgewater State College. Hispania Vol. 89, No 2, pp 259-267. Print Winn, Peter. Americas: The Changing Face of Latin American and the Caribbean. Third edition. University of California Press. 2006 Print