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Class 15: EWRT 2
AGENDA
0 Essay #2 Results
0 Essay #3 Questions or Comments
0 Group Discussions: Justice and A Game of Thrones
0 Get into your teams to consider the application of Cicero
and Thoreau to A Game of Thrones
0 Class discussion: Cicero/Thoreau and A Game of Thrones
0 In-class writing: Generating Prompts
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Have a Good Title
0 Title?
0 Government Guidance
0 Lao-tzu’s “Thoughts from the Tao-te Ching”
0 Rght path to follow
0 Lao-Tzu Vs. Machiavelli government
0 Just Leave It Alone
Read your essay aloud to
eliminate errors
0 In The Prince written by Di Nicolo Machiavelli informs

the reader whom most likely a prince or a high ranking
ruler that gaining control of his (the prince) people in a
way that the prince would be able to stay in power
without angering the masses.
0 Lao-Tzu, The Father of Taoism, has been remarked
as one of the most important philosophers in the past
decades.
0 “Clean your room; a clean room means a clean
conscious ,” my mother explained to me as an
ignorant, close-minded teenager growing up.
Avoid Vagueness
0 Learning new things can be quite difficult, especially

when what we are doing is working perfectly fine. But
when a faster and easier way occurs, we are expected
to convert. A concept of doing something new when
we’ve been doing the same thing for a long time can
be incomprehensible.
0 It’s assumed that using dark forces to rule may have
catastrophic results, but looking closer to these
matters , they may come in handy.
Avoid Run-ons and Fragments
0 Lao Tzu’s philosophy is that by removing expectations
and standards, the people of the nation will follow the
good intuitions that are inherently in their
hearts, however, these ideas would not suffice in
contemporary politics because regulations and policies
are essential for maintaining a balanced nation.
0 On the microcosmic level, the individual within modern
society.
Eliminate Agreement Errors
0 The constant struggle that humans has faced for centuries

in our past has been finding a set style of government that
would be successful and beneficial to its people.
0 It’s difficult to learn and grow when an individual

believes they are right all the time, and denies their
mistakes.
Follow Writing Guidelines
0 From this book originates the concept, “the ends justify the

means”, meaning the morality of an action is based solely on the
outcome of that action and not on the action itself.
0 Or maybe he just made a small mistake somewhere that caused
his answer to be wrong but his thoughts are going the right
way: like when you are solving a math problem and you make
a error in calculating.
0 When it comes to power, one who uses arms as a force is much
better than an unarmed man. “it is not reasonable for an
armed man to obey an unarmed man willingly, nor that an
unarmed man should be safe among armed servants”(222).
Use MLA Formatting
Student Writer
Kim Palmore
EWRT2 TR 8:3011/1/2013
Lao-tzu holds the belief that the government should be more hands off in
order to be successful, he says,
Therefore the Master says: I let go of the law, and people become honest. I let
go of economics, and people become prosperous. I let go of religion, and
people become serene. I let go of desire for the common good, and the good
becomes common as grass. (Verse 57)

He states; “careful never to let anything slip from his lips which is not full of
the five qualities mentioned above: he should appear, upon seeing and
hearing him, to be all mercy, all faithfulness, all integrity, all kindness, all
religion.” (Machiavelli 49)
Cite your Sources
0 The United States has spent so much money on

helping food assistant programs and a major conflict
has been applicants who qualify are also using drugs.
0 But instead, he should learn to deceive his subjects to
thinking he is good by pretending to be
merciful, humane and among other good qualities.
0 On the other hand, a firearm hasn’t been legally sold
in Oakland in over a decade, as there is no gun shop.
Essay #3
Questions or Comments?
Why look at GOT through the
lenses of philosophy texts
0 EWRT 2 aims at providing the tools for both meaningful reading

and critical thinking. Intertextuality expands the scope of text
interpretation beyond the reader, carrying it to the meeting place
of texts.
0 The challenge of developing intertextual aptitudes develops
conceptual, curricular, and methodological perspectives.
0 Using a theoretical or philosophical lens, that is viewing a novel
from a particular perspective, fosters thinking development, the
use of broad lateral thinking, associative thinking, focusing, and
critical thinking.
0 The practice of frequently using intertextual aptitudes helps to
develop a habit of mind that includes complex thinking, creative
insights, and speculative conclusions.
Injustice

Get into your
teams to consider
the application of
Cicero and
Thoreau to A
Game of Thrones.
Make sure to find
textual evidence
to support your
claims.

Group Discussions: Justice and
A Game of Thrones
Justice and A Game of Thrones
“The Defense of Injustice”
“Civil Disobedience”
8:30
0 “’Ah, but when the queen

proclaims one king and
the Hand another, whose
peace do[es] [the City
Watch] protect?’ […]
‘They follow the man
who pays them’” (Martin
351)

0 “Let us accept that it is

the duty of a just and
good man to obey the
laws. But which laws is
he to obey? All the
different laws that
exist?” (Cicero 127).
0 “’The common people

pray for rain, healthy
children, and a summer
that never ends,’” Ser
Jorah told her. ‘It is no
matter to them if the
high lords play their
game of thrones, so long
as they are left in peace’”
(Martin 151).

0 “Practically speaking, the

opponents to a reform […]
are not a hundred thousand
politicians […] but a
hundred thousand
merchants and farmers
here, who are more
interested in commerce
and agriculture than they
are in humanity” (Thoreau
141).
Shedding Blood in Vaes Dothrak
0 “[Laws] are imposed by

the fear of being
penalized” (Cicero 126).

0 “Do as [Daenerys

says], […] before you get
us all killed” (Ser Jorah
to Viserys: Martin 498).
0 Cicero said it

is, “blasphemous to keep
the gods shut up within
walls, when they belong
to the entire world”
(124).

0 “Beyond the horse

gate, plundered gods
and stolen heroes
loomed to either side of
them. The forgotten
deities of dead cities […].
Stone kings looked
down on her from their
thrones” (386).
0 “Laws are a tedious

business and counting
coppers is worse […]
they all want
something, money or
land or justice”
(Martin, 47)

0 “So we are looking for

justice, which is far more
valuable than all the
gold in the world, surely
ought to do the
same, without shrinking
from any hardship
whatever.” (Cicero, Para.
4).
0 “Under a government

which imprisons any
unjustly, the true place
for a just man is also a
prison” (146).

0 Eddard Stark was

thrown into prison for
trying to keep his honor
and remain loyal and
just to the king, yet was
thrown into prison for
his actions.
0 “It is not a man’s duty, as

a matter of course to
devote himself to the
eradication of any, even
the most enormous
wrong; he may still have
other concerns; but it is
duty to wash his hands
of it, if he gives it no
thought no longer”
(Thoreau 143).

0 “Just where do you think

you are going Arya?” the
septa demanded.
“I have to go shoe a
horse,” she said
sweetly, taking a brief
satisfaction in the shock
in the septa’s face, Then
she whirled and made
her exit, running down
as fast as her steps could
take her” (Martin 59).
0 “When the subject
has refused
allegiance and the

officer has resigned
his office, then the
revolution is
accomplished But
even suppose blood
should flow”
(Thoreau 147)

0 “You want me to
serve the woman
who murdered my

king, butchered my
men, and crippled
my son?” (Ned:
Martin 530).
0 “a majority are

permitted, and for a long
period continue, to rule not
because they are most likely
to be in the right, now
because this seems fairest
to the minority but because
they are physically the
strongest […] in which the
majority rule in all cases
cannot be based on justice”
(Thoreau 138).

0 “Do you think you brother’s

war is more important than
ours? […]When dead men
come hunting in the
night, do you think it
matters who shits the Iron
Throne?” (Mormont to Jon
at the wall: Martin 783-4).
0 “Night’s Watch is dying.
[Their] strength is less than
a thousand now” Mormont:
Martin 206).
0 The mass of men serve

the state thus, not as
men mainly, but as
machines, with their
bodies. They are the
standing army, and the
militia, jailers, constable
s, posse comitatus [force
of the country], etc. In
most cases there is no
free exercise whatever of
the judgment or of the
moral sense (Thoreau
par 5).

0 “One day, Bran, you will

be Robb’s
bannerman, holding a
keep of your own for
your brother and your
king and justice will fall
to you. When that day
comes, you must take no
pleasure in the task, but
neither must you look
away” (Eddard to Bran:
Martin 28)
0 “Princess,” [Jorah

Mormont] said, “you
have a gentle heart, but
you do not understand.
This is how it has always
been. Those men have
shed blood for the khal.
Now they claim their
reward.”
(Daenerys)

0 “That, then, is is the

teaching of “wisdom,”
that we should rule over
as many subjects as
possible, indulge in
pleasures, hold on to
power, be rulers and
masters. But justice, on
the other hand, demands
that we should be
merciful to all men, act
in the interest of the
entire human race, give
everyone what they’re
entitled to” (Cicero 127).
0 “Such command no

more respect than men
of straw or a lamp of
dirt. They have the same
sort of worth only as
horses and dogs.” (pg. 2
Thoreau)

0 “The Nights Watch is a

noble calling!” Tyrion
laughed. “You’re too
smart to believe that.
The Nights Watch is a
midden heap for all the
misfits of the realm” (pg
104 Martin).
0 “I have told you, all is

settled. Trust me. The
khal has promised you a
crown, and you shall
have it” (82 Martin).

0 “It is a sort of wooden

gun to the people
themselves.” (Thoreau
pg.2)
Thinking Ahead:
Generating
Prompts

 Using Cicero or Thoreau, and
A Game of Thrones, write one

or two good questions that you
might consider answering for
your final paper.
 Using Machiavelli or Laotzu, and A Game of
Thrones, write one or two good
questions that you might
consider answering for your
final paper. .
Brainstorming Essay
Prompts: Example
0 Is civil disobedience a practical and worthwhile response

to injustice?

0 Identify an example (or two) of Thoreauvian-style “Civil

Disobedience” in A Game of Thrones.
0 Argue for its success or failure as both a social protest and a
personal undertaking. That is, does it disrupt or change the
status quo? Do the personal risks and sacrifices outweigh the
consequences of the disobedience?
0 Finally, argue either for or against “civil disobedience” as an
approach that should be used in contemporary society?
Form new teams for this unit. Remember, 50% of
your team must be new to you!
THEN, DISCUSS THE DIVISION OF LABOR FOR PLATO
Questions for Critical Reading (453-54)
We will come back together to go over the homework
before we leave!
Homework
0 Essay #3 Due

Friday, November 15 before
noon
0 Post #28 Post one or two good
questions that you might
consider answering for your
final paper.
0 Read A World of Ideas: Plato's
"Allegory of the Cave" (443453)
0 Post #29 Questions (TBD) for
Critical Reading: (pages 45354)

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EWRT 2: Justice and Philosophy in A Game of Thrones

  • 2. AGENDA 0 Essay #2 Results 0 Essay #3 Questions or Comments 0 Group Discussions: Justice and A Game of Thrones 0 Get into your teams to consider the application of Cicero and Thoreau to A Game of Thrones 0 Class discussion: Cicero/Thoreau and A Game of Thrones 0 In-class writing: Generating Prompts
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  • 5. Have a Good Title 0 Title? 0 Government Guidance 0 Lao-tzu’s “Thoughts from the Tao-te Ching” 0 Rght path to follow 0 Lao-Tzu Vs. Machiavelli government 0 Just Leave It Alone
  • 6. Read your essay aloud to eliminate errors 0 In The Prince written by Di Nicolo Machiavelli informs the reader whom most likely a prince or a high ranking ruler that gaining control of his (the prince) people in a way that the prince would be able to stay in power without angering the masses. 0 Lao-Tzu, The Father of Taoism, has been remarked as one of the most important philosophers in the past decades. 0 “Clean your room; a clean room means a clean conscious ,” my mother explained to me as an ignorant, close-minded teenager growing up.
  • 7. Avoid Vagueness 0 Learning new things can be quite difficult, especially when what we are doing is working perfectly fine. But when a faster and easier way occurs, we are expected to convert. A concept of doing something new when we’ve been doing the same thing for a long time can be incomprehensible. 0 It’s assumed that using dark forces to rule may have catastrophic results, but looking closer to these matters , they may come in handy.
  • 8. Avoid Run-ons and Fragments 0 Lao Tzu’s philosophy is that by removing expectations and standards, the people of the nation will follow the good intuitions that are inherently in their hearts, however, these ideas would not suffice in contemporary politics because regulations and policies are essential for maintaining a balanced nation. 0 On the microcosmic level, the individual within modern society.
  • 9. Eliminate Agreement Errors 0 The constant struggle that humans has faced for centuries in our past has been finding a set style of government that would be successful and beneficial to its people. 0 It’s difficult to learn and grow when an individual believes they are right all the time, and denies their mistakes.
  • 10. Follow Writing Guidelines 0 From this book originates the concept, “the ends justify the means”, meaning the morality of an action is based solely on the outcome of that action and not on the action itself. 0 Or maybe he just made a small mistake somewhere that caused his answer to be wrong but his thoughts are going the right way: like when you are solving a math problem and you make a error in calculating. 0 When it comes to power, one who uses arms as a force is much better than an unarmed man. “it is not reasonable for an armed man to obey an unarmed man willingly, nor that an unarmed man should be safe among armed servants”(222).
  • 11. Use MLA Formatting Student Writer Kim Palmore EWRT2 TR 8:3011/1/2013 Lao-tzu holds the belief that the government should be more hands off in order to be successful, he says, Therefore the Master says: I let go of the law, and people become honest. I let go of economics, and people become prosperous. I let go of religion, and people become serene. I let go of desire for the common good, and the good becomes common as grass. (Verse 57) He states; “careful never to let anything slip from his lips which is not full of the five qualities mentioned above: he should appear, upon seeing and hearing him, to be all mercy, all faithfulness, all integrity, all kindness, all religion.” (Machiavelli 49)
  • 12. Cite your Sources 0 The United States has spent so much money on helping food assistant programs and a major conflict has been applicants who qualify are also using drugs. 0 But instead, he should learn to deceive his subjects to thinking he is good by pretending to be merciful, humane and among other good qualities. 0 On the other hand, a firearm hasn’t been legally sold in Oakland in over a decade, as there is no gun shop.
  • 14. Why look at GOT through the lenses of philosophy texts 0 EWRT 2 aims at providing the tools for both meaningful reading and critical thinking. Intertextuality expands the scope of text interpretation beyond the reader, carrying it to the meeting place of texts. 0 The challenge of developing intertextual aptitudes develops conceptual, curricular, and methodological perspectives. 0 Using a theoretical or philosophical lens, that is viewing a novel from a particular perspective, fosters thinking development, the use of broad lateral thinking, associative thinking, focusing, and critical thinking. 0 The practice of frequently using intertextual aptitudes helps to develop a habit of mind that includes complex thinking, creative insights, and speculative conclusions.
  • 15. Injustice Get into your teams to consider the application of Cicero and Thoreau to A Game of Thrones. Make sure to find textual evidence to support your claims. Group Discussions: Justice and A Game of Thrones
  • 16. Justice and A Game of Thrones “The Defense of Injustice” “Civil Disobedience”
  • 17. 8:30
  • 18. 0 “’Ah, but when the queen proclaims one king and the Hand another, whose peace do[es] [the City Watch] protect?’ […] ‘They follow the man who pays them’” (Martin 351) 0 “Let us accept that it is the duty of a just and good man to obey the laws. But which laws is he to obey? All the different laws that exist?” (Cicero 127).
  • 19. 0 “’The common people pray for rain, healthy children, and a summer that never ends,’” Ser Jorah told her. ‘It is no matter to them if the high lords play their game of thrones, so long as they are left in peace’” (Martin 151). 0 “Practically speaking, the opponents to a reform […] are not a hundred thousand politicians […] but a hundred thousand merchants and farmers here, who are more interested in commerce and agriculture than they are in humanity” (Thoreau 141).
  • 20. Shedding Blood in Vaes Dothrak 0 “[Laws] are imposed by the fear of being penalized” (Cicero 126). 0 “Do as [Daenerys says], […] before you get us all killed” (Ser Jorah to Viserys: Martin 498).
  • 21. 0 Cicero said it is, “blasphemous to keep the gods shut up within walls, when they belong to the entire world” (124). 0 “Beyond the horse gate, plundered gods and stolen heroes loomed to either side of them. The forgotten deities of dead cities […]. Stone kings looked down on her from their thrones” (386).
  • 22. 0 “Laws are a tedious business and counting coppers is worse […] they all want something, money or land or justice” (Martin, 47) 0 “So we are looking for justice, which is far more valuable than all the gold in the world, surely ought to do the same, without shrinking from any hardship whatever.” (Cicero, Para. 4).
  • 23. 0 “Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also a prison” (146). 0 Eddard Stark was thrown into prison for trying to keep his honor and remain loyal and just to the king, yet was thrown into prison for his actions.
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  • 25. 0 “It is not a man’s duty, as a matter of course to devote himself to the eradication of any, even the most enormous wrong; he may still have other concerns; but it is duty to wash his hands of it, if he gives it no thought no longer” (Thoreau 143). 0 “Just where do you think you are going Arya?” the septa demanded. “I have to go shoe a horse,” she said sweetly, taking a brief satisfaction in the shock in the septa’s face, Then she whirled and made her exit, running down as fast as her steps could take her” (Martin 59).
  • 26. 0 “When the subject has refused allegiance and the officer has resigned his office, then the revolution is accomplished But even suppose blood should flow” (Thoreau 147) 0 “You want me to serve the woman who murdered my king, butchered my men, and crippled my son?” (Ned: Martin 530).
  • 27. 0 “a majority are permitted, and for a long period continue, to rule not because they are most likely to be in the right, now because this seems fairest to the minority but because they are physically the strongest […] in which the majority rule in all cases cannot be based on justice” (Thoreau 138). 0 “Do you think you brother’s war is more important than ours? […]When dead men come hunting in the night, do you think it matters who shits the Iron Throne?” (Mormont to Jon at the wall: Martin 783-4). 0 “Night’s Watch is dying. [Their] strength is less than a thousand now” Mormont: Martin 206).
  • 28. 0 The mass of men serve the state thus, not as men mainly, but as machines, with their bodies. They are the standing army, and the militia, jailers, constable s, posse comitatus [force of the country], etc. In most cases there is no free exercise whatever of the judgment or of the moral sense (Thoreau par 5). 0 “One day, Bran, you will be Robb’s bannerman, holding a keep of your own for your brother and your king and justice will fall to you. When that day comes, you must take no pleasure in the task, but neither must you look away” (Eddard to Bran: Martin 28)
  • 29. 0 “Princess,” [Jorah Mormont] said, “you have a gentle heart, but you do not understand. This is how it has always been. Those men have shed blood for the khal. Now they claim their reward.” (Daenerys) 0 “That, then, is is the teaching of “wisdom,” that we should rule over as many subjects as possible, indulge in pleasures, hold on to power, be rulers and masters. But justice, on the other hand, demands that we should be merciful to all men, act in the interest of the entire human race, give everyone what they’re entitled to” (Cicero 127).
  • 30. 0 “Such command no more respect than men of straw or a lamp of dirt. They have the same sort of worth only as horses and dogs.” (pg. 2 Thoreau) 0 “The Nights Watch is a noble calling!” Tyrion laughed. “You’re too smart to believe that. The Nights Watch is a midden heap for all the misfits of the realm” (pg 104 Martin).
  • 31. 0 “I have told you, all is settled. Trust me. The khal has promised you a crown, and you shall have it” (82 Martin). 0 “It is a sort of wooden gun to the people themselves.” (Thoreau pg.2)
  • 32. Thinking Ahead: Generating Prompts  Using Cicero or Thoreau, and A Game of Thrones, write one or two good questions that you might consider answering for your final paper.  Using Machiavelli or Laotzu, and A Game of Thrones, write one or two good questions that you might consider answering for your final paper. .
  • 33. Brainstorming Essay Prompts: Example 0 Is civil disobedience a practical and worthwhile response to injustice? 0 Identify an example (or two) of Thoreauvian-style “Civil Disobedience” in A Game of Thrones. 0 Argue for its success or failure as both a social protest and a personal undertaking. That is, does it disrupt or change the status quo? Do the personal risks and sacrifices outweigh the consequences of the disobedience? 0 Finally, argue either for or against “civil disobedience” as an approach that should be used in contemporary society?
  • 34.
  • 35. Form new teams for this unit. Remember, 50% of your team must be new to you! THEN, DISCUSS THE DIVISION OF LABOR FOR PLATO Questions for Critical Reading (453-54) We will come back together to go over the homework before we leave!
  • 36. Homework 0 Essay #3 Due Friday, November 15 before noon 0 Post #28 Post one or two good questions that you might consider answering for your final paper. 0 Read A World of Ideas: Plato's "Allegory of the Cave" (443453) 0 Post #29 Questions (TBD) for Critical Reading: (pages 45354)