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listen, listen…
Merlijn Hoek flickr
Vince Alongi flickr
you may think you’re
listening
but are you
seeing?
A master martial artist asked Bruce to teach
him everything Bruce knew about martial
arts
Bruce held up two cups, both filled with
liquid
                                           by :: Robee ::, flickr
The first cup
represents all of your
    knowledge about
         martial arts.
The second cup
represents all of my
knowledge about
martial arts.
If you want to fill your cup with my
knowledge, you must first empty your
cup of your knowledge.
Bruce Lee
imagine
you’re sitting on a plane, hoping you don’t get an annoying
seatmate who wants to talk
suddenly, a big guy who
looks eager for
conversation sits down
next to you…
moriza. flickr
how do you
see this
person?
large plastic bag
grand canyon mute
Aleutian   pretzel man
flip
your
focus



        by ecstaticist
How does this person
see themselves and their
situation?
This wasn’t
Large Plastic Bag
Grand Canyon Mute
Aleutian Pretzel Man
this was a real person with a
name and a history and stories
that make him laugh and cry.
He was a who, not a what, just
like me.

                       Patti Digh Say Hi to Yaron
imagine
you’re thinking about (or trying not to think about) the
challenge of poverty in Africa
how do you
see these
people?
flip
your
focus
How do these people
see themselves and
their situation?
I have the power to change my world and
make a better life for my family.
imagine
you’re an eager employee preparing to pitch a new initiative
to your Chief Financial Officer (CFO) who has a reputation
as the “VP of No”
how do you
see this
person?
flip
your
focus
How does this person
see themselves and
their situation?
I’ve got a thankless role with the diciest
risk/reward ratio of any job short of a
Navy Seal.

                                             Todd Baker << technowannabe, flickr
How do I see this   How does this person
   person?          see themselves and
                      their situation?
how does flipping your focus
change you and your
approach?
filters take us from all sound
 to what we pay attention to

        distorting
       what we hear
           and
         creating
        our reality
culture
    language
      labels
      values
  inner dialog
      status
 experiences
preconceptions
preoccupations
 assumptions
     attitudes
   intentions
      stress
 expectations
      beliefs
empty your
cup
Listening is not an automatic
       conscious
pilot. It is a

decision… STOP
EVERYTHING YOU’RE
THINKING and listen.
Suspend your own frame of
reference. Focus externally.
Turn off your ego. Quit
thinking everything revolves
around your opinion. Give the
stage in your head to
someone else!
Sunni Brown
Listening is magic: it turns a person
from an object outside, opaque, or
dimly threatening, into an intimate
experience, and therefore into a friend.
In this way, listening softens and
transforms the listener.
Norman Fischer
The point is to understand people
deeply – so deeply you could live their
life, walk in their shoes, and make
decisions the way they would.
Indi Young
what’s your listening position?
Listening positions
Break into pairs
  A share why you came “I came to this event because…”
  B listen from different positions
       I'm bored
       I want to be friends
       I'm in a hurry
       What can I learn from this?
  A share your experiences
  B share your experiences
  Swap and repeat
everyone has a
story
I wonder why they’re
                  doing that? Saying
                         that?




be deeply curious
Gee, that’s a dumb
                   way of doing it!




listen to what you’re thinking
even if they aren’t knowledgeable wonder you’re
                                        I about what what's for
                                            dinner tonight?
       seeking insight on, the extent of their knowledge or
       misinformation is useful




stay in the moment
That makes no
               sense… it takes
               forever that way.




suspend judgment
This is pointless. I’m
             going to cut it short.




be patient
I already know that,
                  let’s skip over it...




adopt a beginner’s mind
My idea is really
             cool. They just don’t
                    get it.




letting go
They’re awfully
          defensive. I’m not
            going to learn
             anything...




be kind
seek the unknown unknowns
abandon your script
to find the story
dig
   beneath
    opinion
conjecture
preference
surfacing
the insights
hidden
within their
stories
Stories are the large and small instruments of
meaning, of explanation, that we store in our
memories.
Joe Lambert
Stories carry emotional information, hopes,
desires, intentions, and pieces of relevant
information.
Seth Kahan
10 tips for mindful
listening
1
yes, that’s the sound of silence (your most
powerful listening tool!)
use body language to show interest with
2   nonverbal cues
smiling
nodding
making eye contact
tilting your head
leaning forward
opening and relaxing your
body posture
relaxing your hands
relaxing and breathing
avoid
frowning
not moving your head
looking away
looking down
glaring
slumping
being stiff
fidgeting
sighing
yawning
                       scragz flickr
use verbal cues to encourage and show
3   interest
it’s a matter of
        uh huh
                              priority             priority?




encourage        notice keyword             echo
Could you say a bit
        Interesting                 I see
                                              more about…




encourage             acknowledge             draw out
avoiding yes | no prompts


                                 They probably don’t
                                 want hear any more
                                         …


                Anything else?                         No.




   yes | no prompt
yes | no prompts close down conversation, keeping
control with the questioner




                         Would…?
             Do…?
                                   Are…?



           If…?
                                      Will…?


                        control
use open prompts instead




                                                          Well, the last
                 What else?                                 time…
                                          they must be
                                          interested in
                                          hearing more



                              <silence>



   open prompt
open prompts draw people out




                When…?
                                   What…?

                                              Why…?
        Describe…


                                             How…?
        Tell me about…

                         hand over control
dig deep with WHY
4
Because I’m loud. When I wasn’t a supporter I was loud about it…
                      probably fought it the first 6 months. I think it changed when I got
                     introduced to favorites. I didn’t have to drill down every single time.
I’m not sure why I    [Name] heard me complaining. He was sitting near me. He came
  was chosen for             over and showed me favorites and changed my life.
   this interview.

                                                    Why do you
                                                  think you were
                                                      chosen?




                            why (follow the verb)?
See how many attachments
                             there are in my Inbox? Lots
                                 from HR. If it was a
   It’s not a
                How do you      corporate priority HR
   corporate
                know that?       wouldn’t be sending
    priority.
                                    attachments.




abstraction                            reveals frame
but be careful with why prompts because they kick
the rational brain into gear
                          hmmm, why do I do it that
                           way? maybe because…


      why did you do it
         that way?                                    … I have too much to do,
                                                      so I can’t afford the time…




                                                              rationalization
follow the story!
5
    listen for abstractions or generalizations and
    prompt for concrete experience
When was the                           Well, yesterday
   Normally I   last time you                        <name> called me to
   search…        did that?                              ask for…
                                      Can you give
                                        me an
                                       example?




                 probe for specific
abstraction         experience                              story
try to imagine the entire scene




                         …        who was involved?
        next?
who, what, when, why, how…




                       …     how did it end?
    what did you do?
extend the story by exploring themes




     were there other                  Tell me about them.
        times…?            yes




  elicit more stories                    explore theme
working down the abstraction
ladder




                               LH Walker
offer an hypothesis and let them fix your
6   understanding
Sounds like you’re saying
that you waste a lot of time                                            So you
 chasing down answers…                  That’s partly the              mean…?
                                       reason, but also…




                                                            let go incorrect
   hypothesis                  “fix” understanding           interpretation
paraphrase to show understanding, clarify
7   misperceptions, and build relationships
Sounds like you’re
          1, 2, 3…                    saying…




listen   mentally summarize   restate (your words)
be brief, don’t parrot back, convey no judgment, use
YOU



                                              What I'm hearing
                                               is that you…




                                         restate (your words)
listen for outliers to understand workarounds
8   and probe for opportunities
That’s a really odd.     Looks like when you
No one else would       need to [x], you do [y]
  ever do that.        Let’s talk about why you
                                                      Well, what
                                do that.
                                                     happens is…




      assumption       set aside assumption       ah, opportunity!
listen for and reflect back their words
9
I keep everything
 …it’s client    What do you mean,
                                         together in client
  server…       client server? I’M the
                                           matter folders
                        client!




your words                               their words
use empathic listening when they share
10   feelings or show emotion
content   content




feeling   feeling
anger      fear        contempt




surprise   happiness   sadness
watch for tells in expressions, body language, or tone
frustrated elated angry exhausted awed timid disappointed
honored stressed excited joyous confident nervous depressed fearful
shocked friendship hopeful relaxed torn proud change courageous accepted
delighted success disgusted embarrassed amused happy jealous conviction
pity remorse   sad surprised worried unhappy strong stand respect
appreciated distant
tune into their feelings to increase their comfort and
encourage them to continue




       Every day I have                                       you’re feeling upset
             to…                                1, 2, 3…       because 1, 2, 3…




                         it pisses me
                               off!
                                                             reflect feelings,
   listen for feelings                  mentally summarize   restate content
The way it was
     implemented led to                      You’re feeling   frustrated      because
  compartmentalization. If
  process had led us, we             you work on projects with other departments. Because it
  would have been much             could belong to any of those departments, you find it difficult
   farther along… It’s the          to know where to put things. And when you need to email
   nature of our work. We          someone, you never know if you’re going to have access to
    work with x, y, and z.               that department’s folder. So you feel that you’re
 Makes it difficult to know…          wasting a lot of time and that things aren’t organized.

                               1, 2, 3…




emotion in tone or body                                                  reflect feelings,
      language                     mentally summarize                    restate content
Being heard is so
close to being
loved
that for the
average person
they are
almost
indistinguishable.
David Augsberger

                     kelsey_lovefusionphoto flickr
test your
listening
Can you tell the story from their
perspective?
Did what you hear challenge your
assumptions? Change your worldview in
any way?
always be listening
every question is a drop of clarity in a sea
of change




                                          Sean Rogers1 flickr
practice, practice,   practice
build a library of great questions, question
beginnings or prompts
be a
story collector
stories reveal what people care about most
stories reveal how people perceive the world
stories point the way to insights
Maybe stories are just data with a soul.
Brené Brown
learn to listen so you can
see
Open your eyes and focus on whatever you observed before – that
plant or leaf or dandelion. Look it in the eye, until you feel it looking
back at you. Feel that you are alone with it on Earth!




That it is the most important thing in the universe, that it contains all
the riddle of life and death. It does! You are no longer looking, you are

SEEING…
The Zen of Seeing, by Frederick Franck
                                                                            Neal flickr
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jhostyn@opentext.com (email)
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10 tips for mindful listening

  • 4. you may think you’re listening
  • 6. A master martial artist asked Bruce to teach him everything Bruce knew about martial arts
  • 7. Bruce held up two cups, both filled with liquid by :: Robee ::, flickr
  • 8. The first cup represents all of your knowledge about martial arts.
  • 9. The second cup represents all of my knowledge about martial arts.
  • 10. If you want to fill your cup with my knowledge, you must first empty your cup of your knowledge. Bruce Lee
  • 11. imagine you’re sitting on a plane, hoping you don’t get an annoying seatmate who wants to talk
  • 12. suddenly, a big guy who looks eager for conversation sits down next to you…
  • 14. how do you see this person?
  • 15. large plastic bag grand canyon mute Aleutian pretzel man
  • 16. flip your focus by ecstaticist
  • 17. How does this person see themselves and their situation?
  • 18. This wasn’t Large Plastic Bag Grand Canyon Mute Aleutian Pretzel Man this was a real person with a name and a history and stories that make him laugh and cry. He was a who, not a what, just like me. Patti Digh Say Hi to Yaron
  • 19. imagine you’re thinking about (or trying not to think about) the challenge of poverty in Africa
  • 20. how do you see these people?
  • 21.
  • 23. How do these people see themselves and their situation?
  • 24. I have the power to change my world and make a better life for my family.
  • 25. imagine you’re an eager employee preparing to pitch a new initiative to your Chief Financial Officer (CFO) who has a reputation as the “VP of No”
  • 26. how do you see this person?
  • 27.
  • 29. How does this person see themselves and their situation?
  • 30. I’ve got a thankless role with the diciest risk/reward ratio of any job short of a Navy Seal. Todd Baker << technowannabe, flickr
  • 31. How do I see this How does this person person? see themselves and their situation?
  • 32. how does flipping your focus change you and your approach?
  • 33.
  • 34. filters take us from all sound to what we pay attention to distorting what we hear and creating our reality
  • 35. culture language labels values inner dialog status experiences preconceptions preoccupations assumptions attitudes intentions stress expectations beliefs
  • 36.
  • 38. Listening is not an automatic conscious pilot. It is a decision… STOP EVERYTHING YOU’RE THINKING and listen. Suspend your own frame of reference. Focus externally. Turn off your ego. Quit thinking everything revolves around your opinion. Give the stage in your head to someone else! Sunni Brown
  • 39. Listening is magic: it turns a person from an object outside, opaque, or dimly threatening, into an intimate experience, and therefore into a friend. In this way, listening softens and transforms the listener. Norman Fischer
  • 40.
  • 41. The point is to understand people deeply – so deeply you could live their life, walk in their shoes, and make decisions the way they would. Indi Young
  • 43. Listening positions Break into pairs A share why you came “I came to this event because…” B listen from different positions  I'm bored  I want to be friends  I'm in a hurry  What can I learn from this? A share your experiences B share your experiences Swap and repeat
  • 45.
  • 46.
  • 47.
  • 48.
  • 49. I wonder why they’re doing that? Saying that? be deeply curious
  • 50. Gee, that’s a dumb way of doing it! listen to what you’re thinking
  • 51. even if they aren’t knowledgeable wonder you’re I about what what's for dinner tonight? seeking insight on, the extent of their knowledge or misinformation is useful stay in the moment
  • 52. That makes no sense… it takes forever that way. suspend judgment
  • 53. This is pointless. I’m going to cut it short. be patient
  • 54. I already know that, let’s skip over it... adopt a beginner’s mind
  • 55. My idea is really cool. They just don’t get it. letting go
  • 56. They’re awfully defensive. I’m not going to learn anything... be kind
  • 57. seek the unknown unknowns
  • 59. to find the story
  • 60. dig beneath opinion conjecture preference
  • 62. Stories are the large and small instruments of meaning, of explanation, that we store in our memories. Joe Lambert
  • 63. Stories carry emotional information, hopes, desires, intentions, and pieces of relevant information. Seth Kahan
  • 64. 10 tips for mindful listening
  • 65. 1
  • 66. yes, that’s the sound of silence (your most powerful listening tool!)
  • 67. use body language to show interest with 2 nonverbal cues
  • 68. smiling nodding making eye contact tilting your head leaning forward opening and relaxing your body posture relaxing your hands relaxing and breathing
  • 69. avoid frowning not moving your head looking away looking down glaring slumping being stiff fidgeting sighing yawning scragz flickr
  • 70. use verbal cues to encourage and show 3 interest
  • 71. it’s a matter of uh huh priority priority? encourage notice keyword echo
  • 72. Could you say a bit Interesting I see more about… encourage acknowledge draw out
  • 73. avoiding yes | no prompts They probably don’t want hear any more … Anything else? No. yes | no prompt
  • 74. yes | no prompts close down conversation, keeping control with the questioner Would…? Do…? Are…? If…? Will…? control
  • 75. use open prompts instead Well, the last What else? time… they must be interested in hearing more <silence> open prompt
  • 76. open prompts draw people out When…? What…? Why…? Describe… How…? Tell me about… hand over control
  • 77. dig deep with WHY 4
  • 78. Because I’m loud. When I wasn’t a supporter I was loud about it… probably fought it the first 6 months. I think it changed when I got introduced to favorites. I didn’t have to drill down every single time. I’m not sure why I [Name] heard me complaining. He was sitting near me. He came was chosen for over and showed me favorites and changed my life. this interview. Why do you think you were chosen? why (follow the verb)?
  • 79. See how many attachments there are in my Inbox? Lots from HR. If it was a It’s not a How do you corporate priority HR corporate know that? wouldn’t be sending priority. attachments. abstraction reveals frame
  • 80. but be careful with why prompts because they kick the rational brain into gear hmmm, why do I do it that way? maybe because… why did you do it that way? … I have too much to do, so I can’t afford the time… rationalization
  • 81. follow the story! 5 listen for abstractions or generalizations and prompt for concrete experience
  • 82. When was the Well, yesterday Normally I last time you <name> called me to search… did that? ask for… Can you give me an example? probe for specific abstraction experience story
  • 83. try to imagine the entire scene … who was involved? next?
  • 84. who, what, when, why, how… … how did it end? what did you do?
  • 85. extend the story by exploring themes were there other Tell me about them. times…? yes elicit more stories explore theme
  • 86. working down the abstraction ladder LH Walker
  • 87. offer an hypothesis and let them fix your 6 understanding
  • 88. Sounds like you’re saying that you waste a lot of time So you chasing down answers… That’s partly the mean…? reason, but also… let go incorrect hypothesis “fix” understanding interpretation
  • 89. paraphrase to show understanding, clarify 7 misperceptions, and build relationships
  • 90. Sounds like you’re 1, 2, 3… saying… listen mentally summarize restate (your words)
  • 91. be brief, don’t parrot back, convey no judgment, use YOU What I'm hearing is that you… restate (your words)
  • 92. listen for outliers to understand workarounds 8 and probe for opportunities
  • 93. That’s a really odd. Looks like when you No one else would need to [x], you do [y] ever do that. Let’s talk about why you Well, what do that. happens is… assumption set aside assumption ah, opportunity!
  • 94. listen for and reflect back their words 9
  • 95. I keep everything …it’s client What do you mean, together in client server… client server? I’M the matter folders client! your words their words
  • 96. use empathic listening when they share 10 feelings or show emotion
  • 97. content content feeling feeling
  • 98. anger fear contempt surprise happiness sadness
  • 99. watch for tells in expressions, body language, or tone
  • 100. frustrated elated angry exhausted awed timid disappointed honored stressed excited joyous confident nervous depressed fearful shocked friendship hopeful relaxed torn proud change courageous accepted delighted success disgusted embarrassed amused happy jealous conviction pity remorse sad surprised worried unhappy strong stand respect appreciated distant
  • 101. tune into their feelings to increase their comfort and encourage them to continue Every day I have you’re feeling upset to… 1, 2, 3… because 1, 2, 3… it pisses me off! reflect feelings, listen for feelings mentally summarize restate content
  • 102. The way it was implemented led to You’re feeling frustrated because compartmentalization. If process had led us, we you work on projects with other departments. Because it would have been much could belong to any of those departments, you find it difficult farther along… It’s the to know where to put things. And when you need to email nature of our work. We someone, you never know if you’re going to have access to work with x, y, and z. that department’s folder. So you feel that you’re Makes it difficult to know… wasting a lot of time and that things aren’t organized. 1, 2, 3… emotion in tone or body reflect feelings, language mentally summarize restate content
  • 103. Being heard is so close to being loved that for the average person they are almost indistinguishable. David Augsberger kelsey_lovefusionphoto flickr
  • 105. Can you tell the story from their perspective?
  • 106. Did what you hear challenge your assumptions? Change your worldview in any way?
  • 107. always be listening every question is a drop of clarity in a sea of change Sean Rogers1 flickr
  • 108. practice, practice, practice
  • 109. build a library of great questions, question beginnings or prompts
  • 111.
  • 112. stories reveal what people care about most
  • 113. stories reveal how people perceive the world
  • 114. stories point the way to insights
  • 115. Maybe stories are just data with a soul. Brené Brown
  • 116. learn to listen so you can see
  • 117. Open your eyes and focus on whatever you observed before – that plant or leaf or dandelion. Look it in the eye, until you feel it looking back at you. Feel that you are alone with it on Earth! That it is the most important thing in the universe, that it contains all the riddle of life and death. It does! You are no longer looking, you are SEEING… The Zen of Seeing, by Frederick Franck Neal flickr
  • 118. keep in touch @joyce_hostyn jhostyn@opentext.com (email) www.joycehostyn.com/blog (blog) knowledge.opentext.com/go/adoption (Adoption Community)