Condition Monitoring of the Drive Train Myths

1. Bachmann electronic GmbH
CONDITION MONITORING OF THE
DRIVE TRAIN MYTHS
end of warranty and permanent installations
- David Clark

2. Bachmann electronic GmbH
WHAT WILL FAIL? AVERAGE SIZE 1.5-2.5MW

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WHAT WILL FAIL AT EACH SENSOR
LOCATION?

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 TURBINE GEARBOX COMMON INSPECTION TECHNIQUES
Component detection percentages on a typical gearbox
 VISUAL INSPECTION BORESCOPE INSPECTION VIBRATION ANALYSIS

 High Speed Pinion 50% 50% 100%
 Intermediate Wheel & Pinion 100% n/a† 100%
 Low-Speed Wheel 100% n/a† 100%
 Sun Gear No 30%§ 100%
 Planetary Gears (3) 10% 30%§ 100%
 Ring Gear 20% 30% 100%
 High Speed Bearings (3) No 100% 100%
 Intermediate Bearings (2-3) No 50%‡ 100%
 Low Speed Bearings (2) No 50%‡ 100%
 Planetary Carrier Bearings (2) No 30%§ 100%
 Planetary Gear Bearings
 (6 drCRB) No 30%§ 100%
 † Clearly visible during visual inspection by removal of inspection cover
 ‡ Depends upon gearbox make/model, oil level and bearing configuration
 § Requires several rotations of rotor and to inspect 100%, adding several hours to inspection
 By Don Roberts and David Clark

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DIFFERENT TYPES OF VIBRATION UNITS- Velocity, acceleration,
displacement, demodulated/enveloped, time waveform, overall.
TIME WAVEFORM VIBRATION SPECTRUM
FFT

6. Bachmann electronic GmbH
CONDITION MONITORING MYTHS
. Need lots of data, lots of measurements, with a baseline
. Too difficult to understand the data
. Not cost justified
. Cannot detect planet section issues
…..All condition monitoring is the same

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FFT 1-30 - FFT 1 - Not specified - Acc Freq 1200 Hz
30/04/2004 2:14:30 p.m.
Hz
0 200 400 600 800 1,000 1,20
grms
0
0.1
0.2
0.3
0.4
0.5
0.6
0.7
O/All 0.991 g rms
30/04/2004 2:14:30 p.m. O/All 0.991 g rms <set RPM>
FFT 1-30 - FFT 1 - Not specified - Acc Freq 1200 Hz
7/07/2004 5:04:47 p.m.
Hz
0 200 400 600 800 1,000 1,20
grms
0
0.1
0.2
0.3
0.4
0.5
0.6
0.7
O/All 0.468 g rms
7/07/2004 5:04:47 p.m. O/All 0.468 g rms <set RPM>
RING GEAR

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FFT 1-30 - FFT 1 - Not specified - Acc Freq 1200 Hz
7/07/2004 5:04:47 p.m.
Hz
0 200 400 600 800 1,000 1,20
grms
0
0.1
0.2
0.3
0.4
0.5
0.6
0.7
O/All 0.468 g rms
7/07/2004 5:04:47 p.m. O/All 0.468 g rms <set RPM>
FFT 1-30 - FFT 1 - Not specified - Acc Freq 1200 Hz
30/04/2004 2:14:30 p.m.
Hz
0 200 400 600 800 1,000 1,20
grms
0
0.1
0.2
0.3
0.4
0.5
0.6
0.7
O/All 0.991 g rms
30/04/2004 2:14:30 p.m. O/All 0.991 g rms <set RPM>

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HIGH SPEED SECTION (HSS)

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HIGH SPEED SECTION (HSS)
secs
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
g
-0.8
-0.6
-0.4-0.4
-0.2
0
0.2
0.4
0.6
O/All 0.062 g RMS
Machine Note (3/8/2010 11:09:42 AM)
Changed to High RPM recording 3-8-10 RK
T03 Gbx HighSpeed Horizontal [Tach] Acc Wfm 8000 ms 6/23/2011 8:03:10 AM O/All 0.062 g RMS 1802.787 RPM
T04 Gbx HighSpeed Horizontal [Tach] Acc Wfm 8000 ms 3/14/2011 3:18:04 PM O/All 0.23 g RMS 1829.291 RPM

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PLANETARY SECTION
secs
0 10 20 30 40 50 60
g
-1
0
1
2
3
4
O/All 0.312 g RMS
Machine Note (3/8/2010 11:09:31 AM)
Changed to High RPM recording 3-8-10 RK
T04 Gbx Planetary Horizontal [Tach] Acc Wfm 64000 ms 3/14/2011 3:10:40 PM O/All 0.312 g RMS 20.484 RPM
T03 Gbx Planetary Horizontal [Tach] Acc Wfm 64000 ms 6/23/2011 8:10:43 AM O/All 0.035 g RMS 20.297 RPM

12. Bachmann electronic GmbH
CONDITION MONITORING MYTHS
. Need lots of data, lots of measurements,
with a baseline
. Too difficult to understand the data
. Not cost justified
. Cannot detect planet section issues
…..All condition monitoring is the same

13. Bachmann electronic GmbHWind FACTS V2.2
CPM
0 20,000 40,000 60,000 80,000 100,000 120,000
gRMS
0
0.02
0.04
0.06
0.08
0.1
0.12
0.14
0.16
0.18
0.2
0.003 g37.687 orders48773.234 CPMCursor A:
O/All 0.243 g RMS
Turbine 18 HS Gbx Bearing Vertical [Tach] Demod Spec (2-10kHz) 120000 CPM 8/17/2009 8:09:43 AM O/All 0.243 g RMS
Turbine 19 high Speed Vertical Demod Spec (2-10kHz) 120000 CPM 8/17/2009 8:09:24 AM O/All 0.03 g RMS
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HIGH SPEED SHAFT (HSS) $300,000 spectrum

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GENERATOR BEARING, $95k spectrum

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EPRI REPORT COST JUSTIFICATIONS

16. Bachmann electronic GmbH
CONDITION MONITORING MYTHS
. Need lots of data, lots of measurements,
with a baseline
. Too difficult to understand the data
. Not cost justified
. Cannot detect planet section issues
…..All condition monitoring is the same

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PLANET GEAR BEARING

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PLANET GEAR

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PLANET SECTION

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PLANET GEAR

21. Bachmann electronic GmbH
CONDITION MONITORING MYTHS
. Need lots of data, lots of measurements,
with a baseline
. Too difficult to understand the data
. Not cost justified
. Cannot detect planet section issues
…..All condition monitoring is the same

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+/- 20% ACCURACY

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60 RPM +
12 RPM +

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+/- 20% ACCURACY
BOTH ARE CURRENTLY BEING INSTALLED WITH OEM
CONDITION MONITORING SYSTEMS
WRONG SENSORS
+/- 20% ACCURACY
USING HIGH SPEED SENSOR IN LOW SPEED
LOCATION

25. Bachmann electronic GmbH
CONDITION MONITORING MYTHS
. Need lots of data, lots of measurements,
with a baseline
. Too difficult to understand the data
. Not cost justified
. Cannot detect planet section issues
…..All condition monitoring is the same

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TRENDING EXAMPLES

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6/11
warning
8/26
Replacement
of the gearbox
1/8
alarm
planetary stage

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2/3
warning
5/13
Replacement
of the bearing
2/17
alarm
HSS bearing

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30. DAVID CLARK
d.clark@bachmann.info