Minutes of 2nd ld v partnership meeting in badajoz, spain
1. Minutes of the 2nd Partnership meeting in Badajoz (Spain)
Tuesday, November 27th, 2012
Note: The coordinator (Yalçin) and Italian partner (Elmo) attended this meeting
through Skype connection.
Morning Session
1. SPAIN: LEAFLET and NEWSLETTER
Amelia presents samples to all participants.
LEAFLET:
• Structure: Mostly all partners agree with the design
• Colors: Romanian partners suggest that the used colors are too dark, and that lighter
color combinations should be used. Example: To use darker colors for the bottom, and
go lighter to the top of the leaflet. Partners agree.
Conclusions: Spain will change colors and present new version of leaflet within next days for
voting.
NEWSLETTER:
• Structure: Ok for everyone
• Colors: The Romanian group thinks it could be changed but the rest of the partners
agree on keeping the one presented by FUNDECYT.
Conclusions: The presented version remains. Spain must present first Newsletter.
Deadline for this task: End of January.
2. ALL PARTNERS: PRESENTATION OF VET GUIDANCE IN EACH COUNTRY
Note: All presentations (+ docs and templates) are available on the project blog.
Spanish Presentation
Amelia presents current VET guidance situation in Spain, explaining that there have been
traditionally two guidance subsystems: one for Education and one for Employment. She also
gives information on Spanish resources and useful links for VET guidance and shows
documents used as guidance instruments by schools as examples of good practice.
Bulgarian Presentation
Pepa presents Bulgarian example on VET guidance, making emphasis that in Bulgaria this is still
very new and therefore they do not have background. She explains that in her country VET
guidance is ruled by 2 main regulations: Vocational Education and Training Act and National
Lifelong Learning Strategy 2008-2013. But there is still lack of a National system for VET
guidance, of coordination between official institutions and providers of and those in need of
vocational guidance. She informs about several good examples of VET guidance projects and
initiatives currently running in the country, but it’s still not enough to talk about a unified
system.
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2. Latvian Presentation
The Latvian partner couldn’t attend the Kick-off meeting of last month held in Adana, Turkey.
Therefore, Agris Ruperts (Director of a vocational school in Liepaja town) first of all has made a
presentation of their school, followed by the education system of the country and the current
VET guidance tools available.
Romanian Presentation
Laura presents the “Student’s professional and Career guidance in the Romanian teaching
system”. She says that in general there is too much theory for students and not enough
practices. Furthermore, she informed about some different guidance initiatives and projects
running now in Romania.
Slovenian Presentation
Marusa gives detailed information about VET and Career guidance in Slovenia, explaining
weaknesses of the existing system and also showing good practice examples and tests during
the presentation.
3. COMPARISON OF VET GUIDANCE IN EACH COUNTRY (SLOVENIA)
Discussion point: What kind of template to be used for further tables to be implemented?
At the Kick-off meeting in Turkey all partners agreed upon the elaboration of a comparison
table to be filled in by each partner in order to put together the different characteristics of
vocational education and guidance methodologies implemented in all partner countries. It was
said that Slovenian partner should present a first template to be discussed during this meeting.
But, all participants agreed that first of all we have to define VET and the target group to be
addressed.
After discussing, all participants agreed on the following:
• Decide exact definition of the target group
• Establish common categories for the table
Conclusions:
• Target group: First to third qualification (students aged 15 – 20/21)
• Categories:
- History
- Legal framework/legislation
- Activities
- Providers
- Examples of good practices (a maximum of 5 examples per country).
Each category can be divided into national and regional ones, and each partner must include
info under each category. And during next meeting in Italy, Elmo will decide how to structure it
to insert later into the online platform to be performed. The info under these categories is
planned to be available for everyone (counsellors, pupils and parents).
Deadline for this task: End of January (all partners).
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3. Afternoon Session
4. SPAIN: QUESTIONNAIRES ABOUT THE MODALITY IN IMPLEMENTING VET
GUIDANCE AT SCHOOLS
Amelia presents a model of questionnaire that is distributed to the students who finish the
compulsory secondary education in Extremadura to guide them in the process of taking a
decision on what they want to do in their near future: VET, labor market or other alternatives.
They can be provided with information on the process of decision-making and they can
elaborate an action plan for their next steps. It is very complete and they can access this
questionnaire when they are coming to the end of their secondary studies. They can do this
questionnaire individually, it is very practical, accessible online and it is optional for the
students. Some teachers mentor them to complete the questionnaire at the school.
Amelia agrees on researching for having statistical data on the percentages of how many
people complete it in the region of Extremadura. She also presents a model of an assessment
questionnaire for students at the end of a VET learning module. It is very oriented to evaluate
the training experience as well as the experience in the company where they made their
professional practices and about their motivations for their future.
The last tool presented by Amelia is ORIENTA. This is also an online guidance test
implemented by a private company and it is available for the high schools to buy it and
customize it according to their preferences. An example from the school “Instituto Albarregas”
in Merida town was the one used in the presentation.
5. continue PRESENTATION OF VET GUIDANCE IN EACH COUNTRY
Turkish Presentation
Ilknur from Avanos Vocational High School gives an overview on vocational guidance in Turkey,
explaining that it begins at primary school. She gives information about vocations especially in
7th and 8th grade and that students have their Level Determination Exam at the end of 8 th
grade. They are placed to a high school accordingly to the points resulting from this exam. She
continues presenting her school and the different training modules the students can choose.
Ilknur continues explaining VET guidance activities undertaken by the teachers and saying that
the end of the 9th grade is quite relevant for the future of a Turkish student because he/she has
to choose between Numerical Sections, Verbally Sections or Foreign Language Sections.
6. SPAIN: PRESENTATION OF EDUCATIONAL ONLINE PLATFORM “RAYUELA”
Anto Recio (staff of Spanish partner) presents this educational online tool implemented in
whole Extremadura region. RAYUELA is the main proof of the Open Source Software Strategy
that the region of Extremadura experienced in the last 12 years. It is a single platform for
education management, teachers, students, counsellors, parents and associations of parents.
It is a comprehensive platform where e-learning (digital contents and re-use of training
materials and software) is the most important feature as well as the possibility for all the
actors in the educational process to be connected and be able to share information and
experiences. The management of RAYUELA is oriented to coordinate all the public schools in
the region (more than 300 schools being the vast majority of them located in rural areas). The
software behind RAYUELA is also offered to other countries to be implemented as its definition
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4. is an Open Source Software. The key of RAYUELA is its dynamism and continuous
improvement.
7. SHORT OVERVIEW ON THE AGREEMENTS AND THE WORKPLAN FOR THE NEXT
COMING MONTHS
All partners agree on the following:
• Minutes + Attendance lists of this meeting will be sent latest on Tuesday, December
4th, to the project coordinator
• Spain will re-made the leaflet with lighter colors and the new version will be uploaded
to Yahoo group for voting
• All partners agree on the model of the Newsletter. End of January 2013 is the deadline
for the first Newsletter
• End of January is the deadline for completing the categories for the comparison table
• The design of the moodle platform will be firstly discussed during the next working
meeting in Italy on March 2013. This online tool (where the results of the project will
be allocated) is planned to be online for testing in December 2013. As a consequence,
the process of translating the materials to each language will start after that.
• If needed for next meeting, Italian partner shall add any new task to the Badajoz`s
meeting ones
• The date when the doodle voting system has to be ready for the meeting in Slovenia
will be decided in Italy on March, 2013
• As Latvian partner joined the partnership firstly in this 2 nd meeting, Laura asks for
deciding on a date for the consortium meeting in Latvia. Everybody agrees on
discussing about it during the meeting in Italy
• A last discussion on the comparison of the feedback`s questionnaires between the
students in the different partners concludes on taking a look to the English one that is
already in the blog and the one showed during the morning session. Amelia will
translate it for everybody to vote on what is the most suitable option.
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