This document discusses guidelines for CPR and a naloxone program for treating opioid overdoses. Dr. Vaillancourt and Dr. Morrison disagree on the 2015 and 2010 CPR guidelines. Dr. Vaillancourt refers the author to Dr. Morrison to discuss objections to recommending chest compressions only for opioid overdoses. Dr. Morrison helped craft Toronto Public Health's naloxone training protocols but was unwilling to discuss concerns about recommending chest compressions only for opioid overdoses.

1. Dr. Vaillancourt wrote 2015 CPR guidelines Dr. Morrison wrote 2010
CPR 2010 guidelines correct 2015 wrong and misleading. Dr.
Vailancourt refers me to Dr. Morrison see last email.
All consensus for OD found here
https://jgarythompson.wordpress.com/2015/08/11/agnotology/
From Christian Vaillancourt 01/16/14 at 11:14 PM
To Gary Thompson
I still do not fully understand your objection to this program.
Not sure we have this in Ottawa, but naloxone programs such as this
one have been implemented to save the lives of opioid addicts who
overdose.
I believe the naloxone is meant to be administered quickly by a fellow
addict or case worker or family member trained to do so.
Many such patients die in alleys with no case at all, and simple CPR
will not work in the case of an opioid OD.
Perhaps best to contact a cardiac arrest champion from Toronto if you
are looking for support with some of your objections...have you tried
Dr. Laurie Morisson?
Christian
From Christian Vaillancourt 01/08/14 at 1:56 PM
To Gary Thompson
Most recent resuscitation guidelines (attached) moved to recommend
compression-only CPR for citizen (not for health care professionals)
mostly because it was perceived to be one of the major barrior for
people to initiate CPR…it is also the most difficult part of the
technique to learn.

2. For witnessed arrests (those having a cardiac arrest with immediate
CPR initiation), since victims already have some oxygen in their lungs
that can passively be absorbed, another argument is that any time
spend doing ventilations is time lost circulating that oxygen with chest
compressions.
In the case of overdoses and children cardiac arrests, the etiology is
commonly a respiratory arrest.
Although they would be most likely to benefit from ventilations, once
again – barrier to CPR initiation (reluctance to do so) favor an
approach encouraging chest compressions alone until professional
help arrives.
A few very large studies also seem to support this strategy (no
difference in survival comparing chest –compression alone to
traditional CPR)
Hope this answers some of your questions?
Christian Christian Vaillancourt MD, MSc, FRCPC, CSPQ
Associate Professor, Department of Emergency Medicine
Senior Scientist, Ottawa Hospital Research Institute
Research Chair in Emergency Cardiac Resuscitation, University of
Ottawa
Associate Medical Director, Regional Paramedic Program for Eastern
Ontario
From Christian Vaillancourt 01/07/14 at 7:32 AM
To James Thompson
Thank you for this information Mr. Thompson, but it would help me
respond if I understood your concern better.
Are you concerned with the naloxone program described, or with the
recommendation for compression-only CPR?

3. Christian
On Jan 7, 2014, at 2:28 AM,
<jgary.thompson@mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
Dr. Vaillancourt:
Toronto Public Health is doing a live human study, teaching the
general public chest compressions only for poisoning (drug OD). See
attached CJPH 2013;104(3)e200-4
Omitted from the article Signs & Symptoms of opioid poisoning. See
attached from the training
literature www.instantpresenter.com/ohtn/E956D7808049 Slide 31.
I know of deaths 14 yr. old juvenile onset diabetes case; 70 yr. old
unconscious choking victim plus poisoning (drug OD)
deaths. Responders were doing as instructed, unconscious, cyanotic,
laboured breathing give chest compressions only?
Any comment would be appreciated, I am at a loss understanding
this practice.
Thank You & Remember the Mysteries
Gary Thompson
From Laurie Morrison MorrisonL@smh.ca Oct 8, 2012
To James Thompson
CC 'Aaron Orkin (aorkin@gmail.com)'
Hi James
Yes I helped craft them in accordance with the guidelines and feel the
approach to chest compression only is the right way to go for many
reasons. Happy to discuss with you at any time. Aaron Orkin (copied
here) and Toronto public Health were more involved than I was as I
was just the expert brought in to help out.

4. Cell is 4165245434 or we could set up a face to face by email if you
prefer.
Laurie
From: James Thompson [mailto:jgary.thompson@mail.utoronto.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 5:02 PM
To: Laurie Morrison
Subject: naloxone training
Dr. Morrison:
I have just found out that RESCU was part of Toronto Public
Health's naloxone protocols. I think they should be changed, as there
is no scientific evidence for chest compressions only in opiate
overdose.
See Attached ILCOR and Amer Heart Assoc. Guidelines 2010
Please reply ASAP
Remember the Magic
Gary Thompson @GaryCPR
Dr. Morrison was not happy to discuss when told brining a tape
recorder. She phoned the police. Get a phone call “Gary can you
come to the station” “Sure be right there” Police constable “Gary I
want to shake your hand you have been saving lives, bad news is Dr.
Morrison wants no contact.” “Fine by me she is a nut”
Dr. Laurie Morrison Co-Chair AHA & ILCOR Guidelines on toxic
ingestions
2010 AHA Guidelines Part 12.7:
http://circ.ahajournals.org/content/122/18_suppl_3/S829.full#sec-80
ILCOR 2010 Part 8.5 Drug Overdose and Poisoning
http://www.resuscitationjournal.com/article/S0300-9572(10)00453-
3/fulltext#sec2260
UNDOC/WHO 2013 Opioid overdose Page 7 layman’s language
https://www.unodc.org/docs/treatment/overdose.pdf
Compressions only CPR AHA Guidelines 2010 Part 4
http://circ.ahajournals.org/content/122/18_suppl_3/S676.full.pdf+html