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GETTING TO YES:
FROM CULTIVATING TO
      CLOSING

  Abbie J. von Schlegell, CFRE
            Principal
        avonschlegell & co.


         April 22, 2008
TODAY’S SESSION
• Key Concepts of MG Fundraising
• Know Thyself….and Your Cause
• Cultivate, Cultivate, Cultivate
• Get the Appointment
• Ask, Negotiate, Close
• Objections
• Case Studies and Simulations
KEY CONCEPTS OF MAJOR
  GIFT FUNDRAISING
Major Gifts vs. Annual Gifts
   A Brief Clarification
   • Frequency of gift
         • One-time vs. annual
   • Solicitation technique
         • Face-to-face vs. letter/call
   • Solicitation sequence
         • Multiple vs. single event
   • Source of funds
         • Appreciated capital vs. current cash flow
   • Timing
         • Donor driven vs. cyclical/deadline driven
   • Ask Source
         • Team vs. single volunteer or staff
THE SEVEN STEP MODEL
 •1. IDENTIFY    the Prospect
 •2. RESEARCH    and Evaluate
 •3. PLAN        approach Strategy
 •4. INVOLVE     the Prospect
 •5. ASK         for the Gift
 •6. NEGOTIATE   the Agreement
 •7. NURTURE     the Donor
KNOW THYSELF…..AND
   YOUR CAUSE
WHAT’S HOLDING YOU
       BACK?
 • FOR MOST OF US, IT’S FEAR:

 • personal rejection
 • professional failure
 • breaking cultural taboos
 • exposing your ignorance
 • getting an inappropriate response
YOU CAN OVERCOME
       THESE FEARS
• BE PREPARED!!!
• Research
• Strategy
• Materials
• Team
• Put yourself in control of the situation
WHAT ARE YOUR BELIEFS?

 • about Fundraising?

 • about your Prospects?

 • about your Organization?
CULTIVATE
      CULTIVATE
      CULTIVATE

(AND BY THE WAY? CULTIVATE!)
CULTIVATION
• Major Gifts almost never come from one or
• just a few meetings:
• Work often through research and strategic
  planning process
• involve a number of encounters over time
• Almost always involve person-to-person
  team approach
• Is usually with more than one person, not all at
  the same time
• needs combination of: (a) chief
  executive/project champion (b) volunteer leader
  (c) professional fundraiser
CULTIVATION
• Donor centered
• Tailored to each individual
  person
• Blend of personal, telephone and
  written communications
• Planned, regular sequence of
  activities
• Continuity important
CULTIVATING PROSPECT
          INTEREST
• Prospects build their cultivation “score” through
  engagement and involvement with the
  organization and the project:
• Broadcast communications (Newsletters, etc.)
• Special group activities
• Information meetings
• One-on-one meetings (site tours, mtgs w/staff)
• Volunteering
CULTIVATING PROSPECT
      INTEREST
• Know what steps have been taken as you
  prepare to ask for a gift

• No prospect is ever perfectly or completely
  cultivated

• Sometimes you just have to ask because
  the time has come
REMEMBER WHY
     DONORS GIVE
Donors give to causes that:
       • Offer reciprocation
       • Show benefit
       • Add value
       • Make changes for the better
•   For themselves & their families
•   For their organization
-   For their region or country
-   For their beliefs
-   For the world
CULTIVATE PROSPECT
     ENGAGEMENT
        Ways to involve major donors
Social gatherings       Hold meetings with success stories
Orientations            Ask them to join the Board or a
                        Committee
Send publicity
clippings               Invite them to a lecture
Special events          Invite them to be on a panel
Ask them for advice     Call them regularly to provide
                        updates
Ask them to volunteer
PEOPLE SUPPORT
WHAT THEY HELP
  TO CREATE
IS THIS ABOUT MONEY?
• “In the end, you may wish to provide
  financial support for this project.
  However, right now, I would just like
  to tell you more about it and see if
  you have any observations or
  suggestions that could help us as we
  plan and develop the initiative.”
GETTING THE
APPOINTMENT
SETTING UP THE ASK
         MEETING
1. Before the meeting:
2. Do your homework
3. Be prepared
4. Understand the Needs of the Prospect
5. Match the Prospect’s Needs to the Benefits
   your institution has to offer
6. Have briefing materials
7. Gather your team
8. Practice, if necessary
GETTING THE MEETING
• Letter followed by phone call OR just a
  phone call, perhaps after a “chance”
  meeting

• Be forthright:
  – You’ve been a long time supporter of….
  – You’ve been so involved in….
  – I’d like to talk to you about an important project
GETTING THE MEETING

• You’ll probably end up asking for the
  date on the phone

  DANGER:
  You can get trapped into doing your ask on the
    phone….DON’T…..
     • You’ll get a smaller gift than otherwise
     • You won’t get a gift at all
THE CORE OF THE
       PROSPECT MEETING
1. Greet the Prospect (make time for idol chatter)
2. Introduce your organization/program/project and explain your
    role
3. Explain why this meeting is taking place
4. Talk about the need and the prospect’s interest/involvement
    (make the match)
5. Ask for the Gift OR Ask for agreement to go to next stage
6. BE SILENT
7. React to questions and/or objections
8. Agree any process of negotiation
9. Add any special requests and/or invitations
10. Repeat what the prospect has agreed
11. Say farewell
ASKING, NEGOTIATING
     & CLOSING
IF YOU WANT
MONEY….ASK FOR
    ADVICE!

  IF YOU WANT
ADVICE….ASK FOR
     MONEY!
THE OPENING
 CONVERSATION
• Understand the Prospect’s Needs
• Motivation?
• Interests?
• Ambitions?
• Experience with your organization?
• Likes?
• Dislikes?
ASK PROBING QUESTIONS
 This is a conversation, not an interview
Ask for their advice
      What do they think about your organization?
      Its place in the community?
      How are they involved with you?
Use Open-ended questions
      Who? What? Where? When? Why? How?
      Get them talking
Avoid Closed questions
      “Do you ….?” or “Are you …..?” or “Have you….?
Use the meeting as Person-to-Person prospect research.
It’s your chance to find out what makes the Prospect
tick!
MAKING THE ASK:
        THE WARM UP
• Shift the conversation to your
  organization
     • Their most recent engagement in your organization
     • Recent or new programs and activities
     • Continue to ask probing questions
         – Find out what motivates their interest
     • Think like a litigator
         – Don’t ask a question whose answer you don’t know
            » Rely on research, prep and your “theory”
         – Ask questions that will lead the discussion where you
           want to go
WAYS OF EXPLORING
         INTERESTS
• Examples of probing questions:
• “Who was the greatest influence on your love of
  *****?”
• “What aspects of *****’s work interest you most?”
• “Where did you used to live in ***** when you were
  ****?”
• “When did you last visit ***** ?”
• “Why did you start collecting ****** memorabilia?”
• “How good has our organization been in keeping in
  touch with you?”
PREPARING TO MAKE
        THE ASK
• Know how much to ask for
• Have a “theory” about what will interest
  the prospect
  – Their passion points
  – Area of interest for “investment”

• NOTE:
• Giving interest isn’t always (or just)
  mission-based
MAKING THE ASK:
          THE REAL DEAL
• Transition the discussion to the purpose of
  the Ask
  – The vision it is helping to fulfill
  – The ways it links with the prospect’s interests

• Put the prospect in the picture
  – Your support for XXX can make it happen
  – We’d like you to consider a gift of $XXX for these purposes
     • Name that number and say it with conviction
     • THEN BE SILENT
     • What you hear next will be the best information about closing
       the ask you will ever get
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN
THE PROSPECT RESPONDS?
• Listen, make “Attention Signs” (nod in
  agreement, say “yes”)
• Maintain eye contact while noting down Key
  Words:
• his needs, problems, questions, concerns
• Use these Key Words to repeat back your
  understanding
• Briefly prompt to get more information, but
  now is not the best time to reply to each concern
EMPHASIZE THE BENEFITS
• Show donors how their gift can add value:
• “How many extra ***** will be able to make
  a decision about taking up a **** career
  through the *****’s program?”
• “What effect will new facilities have on the
  quality of the **** experience?”
• “What will be the long term effect of this
  ***** program on….?”
CONFIRMING
• If you can get Confirmation, you need never fear
  Asking for the Gift!

• Once the Prospect has confirmed your organization
  is addressing his concerns and doing good things:

• it does not mean that the Prospect will actually give

• BUT

• it does mean that there is no reason not to Ask him
  for a Gift
CONFIRM YOUR
       UNDERSTANDING
• NOW use Assumptive Statements and Closed
  Questions
• to find out if the Prospect will Confirm
  agreement
• with your program:
  • “So you would agree that...?”
  • “If I could just sum up what I understand you feel about the
    program….”
  • “Just to clarify, do you feel happy with….?”
  • “Do you think we are going about this the right way?”
THE GIVING SIGNAL
• “So how much do you want from me?”
• This is definite Confirmation, go straight into the Close
• But BEWARE getting a Giving Signal too early in the
  meeting!
• It may allow prospect to deliberately undergive
• It may not give you sufficient time to learn enough about
  their Needs for you to maximize the Ask
• So…
• Thank for support, but ask to discuss the details later.
• Continue by asking about motivations – to help you
  decide whether Gift level is right or if you should try for
  more
CULMINATION OF THE
  GIFT ASKING PROCESS

“Asking can be the start of negotiating,
 but if you don’t ask, you will never
 negotiate!”
WAYS OF CLOSING
Here are examples of a Closing
 Statement/Question:
• “Would you consider raising the level of your support
  for this program to $X?”
• “Others interested in this project are supporting us at
  this level”
• “We are looking for $X to secure this project’s future”
• “Other benefactors interested in the project have come
  on board in the range of $X to $Y”
• “Have you considered financially supporting …?”
AND WHAT HAPPENS AFTER
      YOU ASK?
• Stay Silent: He who speaks first, loses!
• The Prospect is thinking about your proposition
• Look her in the eye, expectantly but patiently!
• Do not interrupt his silence through your own
  nervousness
• This is the Prospect’s decision – let the Prospect
  make it
NEGOTIATING RARELY TAKES
 PLACE IN THE GIFT ASKING
     MEETING ITSELF
• Can take far longer than asking for the gift itself –
• many fiscal, legal and personal issues to address
• Start with making a concrete proposal to begin
   the process of negotiating the gift
• Find out what is needed to negotiate the gift,
• what the new donor (no longer a prospect) wants:
   –   Details of the project?
   –   Payment arrangements?
   –   Donor Recognition decisions?
   –   Tax planning?
   –   Spouse/partner involvement?
HANDLING
      OBJECTIONS

Prospect Attitudes & Judgments
PROSPECT ATTITUDES &
     JUDGMENTS
•   Misunderstanding
•   Indifference
•   Skepticism
•   Smokescreen Objections
•   Engaging Objections
•   Deal Breakers
WHAT IF THE PROSPECT
       OBJECTS?
• See this ‘objection’ as something positive
• It is the first stage in Getting to Yes
• It is a positive part of the process of creating
  agreement and creating a real partnership
   – Don’t run away from it!
   – Repeat back the Prospect’s concern to confirm what he/she means
   – An objection means the Prospect is engaged with your discussion – and
     awake!
   – Enjoy the discussion. It’s an opportunity to involve the prospect by
     working through their objections
DEALING WITH OBJECTIONS
• Do not take them personally
• Do not believe objections mean “no”
• Objections are a way to make up our
  minds
• Most objections are A GOOD THING in
  asking
  – Prospect is carefully listening and giving serious feedback
  – Prospect is usually telling you what you have to deal with to
    get a gift
TOPICS FOR OBJECTIONS
– The people at your organization
– My experience at your organization
– The organization’s status vis a vis other similar
  organizations
– The mission or campaign objective
– The gift purpose
– I don’t like naming…
– I’m not really interested in buildings…
– Timing and gift competition
– Everyone has their hand out. . .
– Our assets have depleted significantly. . .
CLOSING
• CLOSING QUESTIONS:
• “Are you in a position to decide at this time?”
• “Would you like to bring your spouse/partner to see
  the program?”

• “What further information do you need?”

• “Can I introduce you to the chief **** involved?”

• “Would you like to think about the opportunities for
  having your name on the program?”
FAILURE TO CLOSE
We fail to close asks because:
• We never actually ask for an amount
• We avoid testing or checking for closure
• We are afraid of being turned down
• We fail to identify prospect’s needs
  during initial steps of the solicitation
• We fail to summarize progress from
  earlier stages
BUT WHATEVER YOU SAY …..


• Never mind how cleverly you phrase it
  …………………………………

• Never mind how clumsily you blurt it
  out ………………………………
NO ASK = NO GIFT!

The main reason people don’t give
 is because they are not asked!
CASE STUDIES &
       SIMULATIONS
• I HEAR……..AND I FORGET
• I SEE…..AND I REMEMBER
• I DO…..AND I UNDERSTAND
                   ~ Confucius
Thank you and Questions?

Abbie J. von Schlegell, CFRE
Principal
A von Schlegell & Co.
Williamstown, MA 01267
410-908-9068
abbie@abbievonschlegell.com
www.abbievonschlegell.com
Fostering the art of philanthropy

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Getting To Yes

  • 1. GETTING TO YES: FROM CULTIVATING TO CLOSING Abbie J. von Schlegell, CFRE Principal avonschlegell & co. April 22, 2008
  • 2. TODAY’S SESSION • Key Concepts of MG Fundraising • Know Thyself….and Your Cause • Cultivate, Cultivate, Cultivate • Get the Appointment • Ask, Negotiate, Close • Objections • Case Studies and Simulations
  • 3. KEY CONCEPTS OF MAJOR GIFT FUNDRAISING
  • 4. Major Gifts vs. Annual Gifts A Brief Clarification • Frequency of gift • One-time vs. annual • Solicitation technique • Face-to-face vs. letter/call • Solicitation sequence • Multiple vs. single event • Source of funds • Appreciated capital vs. current cash flow • Timing • Donor driven vs. cyclical/deadline driven • Ask Source • Team vs. single volunteer or staff
  • 5. THE SEVEN STEP MODEL •1. IDENTIFY the Prospect •2. RESEARCH and Evaluate •3. PLAN approach Strategy •4. INVOLVE the Prospect •5. ASK for the Gift •6. NEGOTIATE the Agreement •7. NURTURE the Donor
  • 6. KNOW THYSELF…..AND YOUR CAUSE
  • 7. WHAT’S HOLDING YOU BACK? • FOR MOST OF US, IT’S FEAR: • personal rejection • professional failure • breaking cultural taboos • exposing your ignorance • getting an inappropriate response
  • 8. YOU CAN OVERCOME THESE FEARS • BE PREPARED!!! • Research • Strategy • Materials • Team • Put yourself in control of the situation
  • 9. WHAT ARE YOUR BELIEFS? • about Fundraising? • about your Prospects? • about your Organization?
  • 10. CULTIVATE CULTIVATE CULTIVATE (AND BY THE WAY? CULTIVATE!)
  • 11. CULTIVATION • Major Gifts almost never come from one or • just a few meetings: • Work often through research and strategic planning process • involve a number of encounters over time • Almost always involve person-to-person team approach • Is usually with more than one person, not all at the same time • needs combination of: (a) chief executive/project champion (b) volunteer leader (c) professional fundraiser
  • 12. CULTIVATION • Donor centered • Tailored to each individual person • Blend of personal, telephone and written communications • Planned, regular sequence of activities • Continuity important
  • 13. CULTIVATING PROSPECT INTEREST • Prospects build their cultivation “score” through engagement and involvement with the organization and the project: • Broadcast communications (Newsletters, etc.) • Special group activities • Information meetings • One-on-one meetings (site tours, mtgs w/staff) • Volunteering
  • 14. CULTIVATING PROSPECT INTEREST • Know what steps have been taken as you prepare to ask for a gift • No prospect is ever perfectly or completely cultivated • Sometimes you just have to ask because the time has come
  • 15.
  • 16. REMEMBER WHY DONORS GIVE Donors give to causes that: • Offer reciprocation • Show benefit • Add value • Make changes for the better • For themselves & their families • For their organization - For their region or country - For their beliefs - For the world
  • 17. CULTIVATE PROSPECT ENGAGEMENT Ways to involve major donors Social gatherings Hold meetings with success stories Orientations Ask them to join the Board or a Committee Send publicity clippings Invite them to a lecture Special events Invite them to be on a panel Ask them for advice Call them regularly to provide updates Ask them to volunteer
  • 18. PEOPLE SUPPORT WHAT THEY HELP TO CREATE
  • 19. IS THIS ABOUT MONEY? • “In the end, you may wish to provide financial support for this project. However, right now, I would just like to tell you more about it and see if you have any observations or suggestions that could help us as we plan and develop the initiative.”
  • 21. SETTING UP THE ASK MEETING 1. Before the meeting: 2. Do your homework 3. Be prepared 4. Understand the Needs of the Prospect 5. Match the Prospect’s Needs to the Benefits your institution has to offer 6. Have briefing materials 7. Gather your team 8. Practice, if necessary
  • 22. GETTING THE MEETING • Letter followed by phone call OR just a phone call, perhaps after a “chance” meeting • Be forthright: – You’ve been a long time supporter of…. – You’ve been so involved in…. – I’d like to talk to you about an important project
  • 23. GETTING THE MEETING • You’ll probably end up asking for the date on the phone DANGER: You can get trapped into doing your ask on the phone….DON’T….. • You’ll get a smaller gift than otherwise • You won’t get a gift at all
  • 24. THE CORE OF THE PROSPECT MEETING 1. Greet the Prospect (make time for idol chatter) 2. Introduce your organization/program/project and explain your role 3. Explain why this meeting is taking place 4. Talk about the need and the prospect’s interest/involvement (make the match) 5. Ask for the Gift OR Ask for agreement to go to next stage 6. BE SILENT 7. React to questions and/or objections 8. Agree any process of negotiation 9. Add any special requests and/or invitations 10. Repeat what the prospect has agreed 11. Say farewell
  • 25. ASKING, NEGOTIATING & CLOSING
  • 26. IF YOU WANT MONEY….ASK FOR ADVICE! IF YOU WANT ADVICE….ASK FOR MONEY!
  • 27. THE OPENING CONVERSATION • Understand the Prospect’s Needs • Motivation? • Interests? • Ambitions? • Experience with your organization? • Likes? • Dislikes?
  • 28. ASK PROBING QUESTIONS This is a conversation, not an interview Ask for their advice What do they think about your organization? Its place in the community? How are they involved with you? Use Open-ended questions Who? What? Where? When? Why? How? Get them talking Avoid Closed questions “Do you ….?” or “Are you …..?” or “Have you….? Use the meeting as Person-to-Person prospect research. It’s your chance to find out what makes the Prospect tick!
  • 29. MAKING THE ASK: THE WARM UP • Shift the conversation to your organization • Their most recent engagement in your organization • Recent or new programs and activities • Continue to ask probing questions – Find out what motivates their interest • Think like a litigator – Don’t ask a question whose answer you don’t know » Rely on research, prep and your “theory” – Ask questions that will lead the discussion where you want to go
  • 30. WAYS OF EXPLORING INTERESTS • Examples of probing questions: • “Who was the greatest influence on your love of *****?” • “What aspects of *****’s work interest you most?” • “Where did you used to live in ***** when you were ****?” • “When did you last visit ***** ?” • “Why did you start collecting ****** memorabilia?” • “How good has our organization been in keeping in touch with you?”
  • 31. PREPARING TO MAKE THE ASK • Know how much to ask for • Have a “theory” about what will interest the prospect – Their passion points – Area of interest for “investment” • NOTE: • Giving interest isn’t always (or just) mission-based
  • 32. MAKING THE ASK: THE REAL DEAL • Transition the discussion to the purpose of the Ask – The vision it is helping to fulfill – The ways it links with the prospect’s interests • Put the prospect in the picture – Your support for XXX can make it happen – We’d like you to consider a gift of $XXX for these purposes • Name that number and say it with conviction • THEN BE SILENT • What you hear next will be the best information about closing the ask you will ever get
  • 33. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE PROSPECT RESPONDS? • Listen, make “Attention Signs” (nod in agreement, say “yes”) • Maintain eye contact while noting down Key Words: • his needs, problems, questions, concerns • Use these Key Words to repeat back your understanding • Briefly prompt to get more information, but now is not the best time to reply to each concern
  • 34. EMPHASIZE THE BENEFITS • Show donors how their gift can add value: • “How many extra ***** will be able to make a decision about taking up a **** career through the *****’s program?” • “What effect will new facilities have on the quality of the **** experience?” • “What will be the long term effect of this ***** program on….?”
  • 35. CONFIRMING • If you can get Confirmation, you need never fear Asking for the Gift! • Once the Prospect has confirmed your organization is addressing his concerns and doing good things: • it does not mean that the Prospect will actually give • BUT • it does mean that there is no reason not to Ask him for a Gift
  • 36. CONFIRM YOUR UNDERSTANDING • NOW use Assumptive Statements and Closed Questions • to find out if the Prospect will Confirm agreement • with your program: • “So you would agree that...?” • “If I could just sum up what I understand you feel about the program….” • “Just to clarify, do you feel happy with….?” • “Do you think we are going about this the right way?”
  • 37. THE GIVING SIGNAL • “So how much do you want from me?” • This is definite Confirmation, go straight into the Close • But BEWARE getting a Giving Signal too early in the meeting! • It may allow prospect to deliberately undergive • It may not give you sufficient time to learn enough about their Needs for you to maximize the Ask • So… • Thank for support, but ask to discuss the details later. • Continue by asking about motivations – to help you decide whether Gift level is right or if you should try for more
  • 38. CULMINATION OF THE GIFT ASKING PROCESS “Asking can be the start of negotiating, but if you don’t ask, you will never negotiate!”
  • 39. WAYS OF CLOSING Here are examples of a Closing Statement/Question: • “Would you consider raising the level of your support for this program to $X?” • “Others interested in this project are supporting us at this level” • “We are looking for $X to secure this project’s future” • “Other benefactors interested in the project have come on board in the range of $X to $Y” • “Have you considered financially supporting …?”
  • 40. AND WHAT HAPPENS AFTER YOU ASK? • Stay Silent: He who speaks first, loses! • The Prospect is thinking about your proposition • Look her in the eye, expectantly but patiently! • Do not interrupt his silence through your own nervousness • This is the Prospect’s decision – let the Prospect make it
  • 41. NEGOTIATING RARELY TAKES PLACE IN THE GIFT ASKING MEETING ITSELF • Can take far longer than asking for the gift itself – • many fiscal, legal and personal issues to address • Start with making a concrete proposal to begin the process of negotiating the gift • Find out what is needed to negotiate the gift, • what the new donor (no longer a prospect) wants: – Details of the project? – Payment arrangements? – Donor Recognition decisions? – Tax planning? – Spouse/partner involvement?
  • 42. HANDLING OBJECTIONS Prospect Attitudes & Judgments
  • 43. PROSPECT ATTITUDES & JUDGMENTS • Misunderstanding • Indifference • Skepticism • Smokescreen Objections • Engaging Objections • Deal Breakers
  • 44. WHAT IF THE PROSPECT OBJECTS? • See this ‘objection’ as something positive • It is the first stage in Getting to Yes • It is a positive part of the process of creating agreement and creating a real partnership – Don’t run away from it! – Repeat back the Prospect’s concern to confirm what he/she means – An objection means the Prospect is engaged with your discussion – and awake! – Enjoy the discussion. It’s an opportunity to involve the prospect by working through their objections
  • 45. DEALING WITH OBJECTIONS • Do not take them personally • Do not believe objections mean “no” • Objections are a way to make up our minds • Most objections are A GOOD THING in asking – Prospect is carefully listening and giving serious feedback – Prospect is usually telling you what you have to deal with to get a gift
  • 46. TOPICS FOR OBJECTIONS – The people at your organization – My experience at your organization – The organization’s status vis a vis other similar organizations – The mission or campaign objective – The gift purpose – I don’t like naming… – I’m not really interested in buildings… – Timing and gift competition – Everyone has their hand out. . . – Our assets have depleted significantly. . .
  • 47. CLOSING • CLOSING QUESTIONS: • “Are you in a position to decide at this time?” • “Would you like to bring your spouse/partner to see the program?” • “What further information do you need?” • “Can I introduce you to the chief **** involved?” • “Would you like to think about the opportunities for having your name on the program?”
  • 48. FAILURE TO CLOSE We fail to close asks because: • We never actually ask for an amount • We avoid testing or checking for closure • We are afraid of being turned down • We fail to identify prospect’s needs during initial steps of the solicitation • We fail to summarize progress from earlier stages
  • 49. BUT WHATEVER YOU SAY ….. • Never mind how cleverly you phrase it ………………………………… • Never mind how clumsily you blurt it out ………………………………
  • 50. NO ASK = NO GIFT! The main reason people don’t give is because they are not asked!
  • 51. CASE STUDIES & SIMULATIONS • I HEAR……..AND I FORGET • I SEE…..AND I REMEMBER • I DO…..AND I UNDERSTAND ~ Confucius
  • 52. Thank you and Questions? Abbie J. von Schlegell, CFRE Principal A von Schlegell & Co. Williamstown, MA 01267 410-908-9068 abbie@abbievonschlegell.com www.abbievonschlegell.com Fostering the art of philanthropy