Transcript chat dialog - with explanatory notes, quotations & supporting references. On Licenses, Laws, Authoritarianism, the Package Deal and Reason: A Dialog Between Two Observers

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"On Licenses, Laws, Authoritarianism, the Package Deal and Reason: A Dialog Between Two Observers...."
On Licenses, Laws, Authoritarianism, the Package Deal and Reason: A Dialog Between Two
Observers.
By Cyrellys & Quintus Dias, Manticore Group 10112017
Transcript with Notations & References From Chat.
Cyrellys (Cy): Keep an eye on the shit storm around General John Kelly, he's ----- narrative.
QD: Wow
Cy: Yes that's why I was surprised this late past the original timeframe he's suddenly front and center.
Here is Trumps twitter account: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/with_replies
I have not seen in it anything on the lack of truth in the LV narratives. He has 10 million and one details on everything else but that
He does do some harping about 'fake news' in general and suggests going after the 'licenses' of the 'fake news'.
What licenses?
QD: Tv and radio stations are licensed by the FCC
Cy: I think it is more along the lines of this, and THAT's not good (QUOTE):
Washington PostVerified account @washingtonpost 5h5 hours ago
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President Trump: "It's frankly disgusting the press is able to write whatever it wants to write." http://wapo.st/2gxp2pe
QD: Well the libs threw journalistichics out years ago
Cy: yes, but first amendment...much as we hate them, they constitutionally can't be censored with licensing or any other form of restriction
. If he does that it'll kill Alt Media and people like you and I. The Globals will literally have a field day with the new restrictions on the
peoples voices.
QD: It is the lies that gets to ppl. Lives, treasure, and ppl get hurt cuz of news lies
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Cy: yes but so to are there truths put out and carried out virally to squelch the msm
Yes it's a wild west thing, but better that then structured licensing. You and I and thousands of others like us would NEVER be heard
again
The people who put TRUMP in office would Never achieve that meager success ever again
IT was a (unorganized) coordinated effort between mil, veterans, grassroots groups, and Alt Media that got it done
QD: If pl act on press b.s. and kill ppl then what. It has happened many times
Cy: That is why you pair a truly open society with self-empowerment to defend themselves - bear arms!
The good must outweigh the bad...and be as or more active than the bad...seen AND heard....or it won't matter one whit what rules, for th
e dream will be gone and Mad Max on the horizon

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QD: Ok
Cy: It's a package deal this freedom...always was. But people went to sleep and forgot that, forgot how to operate the (proverbial)
machine, forgot the components of the dream (FiOs/Knowledge/Sacred), and forgot who they were(Identity/Heirs of the former Champion
s against this kind of corruption & evil in high places).
QD: He-- I think they have some responsibility not to be reckless and inflame ppl. That is no longer journalism but propaganda
Cy: desperation causes flaming; ideologs create flaming; egos create flaming....every 'holier than thou' who thinks he's more right than
the next (guy) and will not bend in a wind, flames....this is the storm on the horizon...the storm is here...all around us. Unfortunately histor
y does show that the flame throwers often do not cease until they suffer from consequential violence.
Sometimes battlefields are the cradle of wisdom
I don't like it anymore than you. But I'm not seeing the other side of the tunnel yet
QD: Hmmm
Cy: The flame throwers are far from exhausting their fuel supply
I think we are at the cusp of where individuals and groups on the good side of the argument start throwing out any respect for the
governing laws.
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Replying to @mindmixradio @realDonaldTrump
Regardless amt negativity they toss at you, Mr. President, you must hold the line. Many believe you tb
last opportun 4 Redress ofGrievances.
QD: Hmmm
Cy: I look down the content of Trumps tweet list and I see an honest effort at creating positivity, even tho I do not agree with a number of
the stances he's pushing.
QUOTE:
MIND MIX RADIO @mindmixradio 14h14 hours ago
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Mr President, from a modern member of Nature's Crowd - "Remember George Washington had zero experience as a POTU
S too. Stand tall!"
QD: Look at all the Laws on the books many of them bad. They create disrespect and cynicism
Cy: yes...authoritarianism run amok?

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many of Cormac's triadic wisdoms spoke with due justice to moderation
Any form of governance and authority can be taken overboard. We see this today in excess.
QD: Big time
Cy: Administrative excess, authority excess, academic pedigree worship excess, rule & system worship excess, archetypal worship, etc
QD: Lib control freak mania. Gotta have a law for everything
Cy: I class the worship of the veterans, honored even as they have some right to, as archetypal worship
exactly...'gotta have a law for everything'....what good are those laws if the People themselves do not intimately know and understand
them? They have become pointless exercises and excuses (posed) to relinquish exercise of common sense (& self-sourced REASON!)
--- See from the Declaration on Causes and Necessity of Taking Arms July 6,1775, how reason was a basis for all that is good, whilst
legal domination 'however severe and oppressive' was a great part of the impetus to resist for it violated the celtic definition of
'sovereignty' which is 'self-ownership'.
QD: Laterz
Cy: laterz
Cy: I am wholly cynical now of most laws for I understand the futility (in trying to be law abiding) and corruption behind the 'gotta have a
law for everything' routine.

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Cy: People like you and I are covered in scars...for us wisdom is earned and real. (We are 'naked and proud' before the Divine Author of
our existence!)
(However) Much of modern society has never even been scratched
That's why chit like Antifa & Soros (CFR, NeoCons, MSM propaganda, and writers of military white papers like NSM 200 or CONPLAN
8888) exists and gets away with all their crap!
QUOTE: Jack Sarfatti @JackSarfatti 4m4 minutes agoMore California fire chief on @ASavageNation
thinks these fires are acts of terror.
Cy: How many times has Trump hit rock bottom and bounced back? Did we not at one point say that is exactly what we need right now
as a POTUS? Despite what I don't like about him, this still rings true to me...it's real...he's a man with scars, and still bleeding.
QUOTE:
Donald J. TrumpVerified account @realDonaldTrumpollowingFollowing
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In even the darkest moments, the light of our people has shown through their goodness, their courage
and their love.
#USA
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President Donald J. Trump in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania
No destructive force on earth is more powerful than the strength and resilience of the American People. -President Donald J. Trump
Cy: He's offered himself up as a moving target, claiming he can establish a beachhead...not solve the problems, but get The People a
foot in the door....ok so our foot is in, now the People have to put their proverbial money where their mouth was....He is only as successful

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as the cacophony of our voices to (assist, direct, or) command...for he serves the People. If we do not exercise that command, then he's
left to muddle through...and I see him doing much muddling in the vacuum.
Cy: I think we must be careful of what happened with Oathkeepers...
Elias (former Senior Editor & Co-Founder) helped create Oathkeepers as an ADVOCACY for the Oath and the people flocked to the
brilliant shining of hope...then it was THEY (The People/Members) who (changed tack in the wind) demanded of Stewart that it is not an
'advocacy' they helped to create...but a militia (as SPLC continually accused)..and so Elias the soul of the Light quit and Stewart the
Malleable allowed the metamorphisis and today OK globe trots to places across the nation and to Puerto Rico in this capacity of
'guardians'. (based on the worship of 'archetypes' aka veterans as 'heroes' or 'authorities' -- this is not to say they do not do a needed
service! We're pointing out a deviation from Synchronicity! aka the influence of the Divine Author of our Existence)
Cy: Now. Who speaks for the Oath? None....those who needed to hear that voice are muddling in the vacuum. This lesson of taking a
champion and morphing it into something it was never meant to be is a repetitive narrative we (The People) create and execute like a
vicious circle.
This is being done with Trump...and the shining will go out if it continues....Elias would have touched far more people (with the org as a
ADVOCACY) than the archetypal Stewart the Veteran ever could hope to do (with it) as a militia.
Cy: Militias have their societal place...but there are individuals and positions (like Elias as a Light Bearer and) like POTUS (as a Peoples
Champion, unaffiliated to the system, against covert corruption) that are part of a much bigger pattern (story). American's in their barely
scratched state, have a hard time recognizing these things.
Cy: Even if he should make some law or process I cannot live with, I will still speak fondly of the Scottish American Chieftain who though
t to take on the Illumined (at point blank range), BUT I will not abide that which I cannot live with. Although I took to the Oath in 1996 with
the Department of the Navy, I am not nor have I ever been a Dept of Navy denizen. I have always been a compatriot of those like Steve
Jobs....and my Oath never expires!
Cy: (LOL!) Who but we! We who know the age of the sun? -- Old Irish saying...
Cy: I live by principles, reason, common sense FIRST before all laws... for true laws are built first upon those, and the destructive ones
heed not such reason....we were Privateers first before we answered George Washington's call...and the likes of the steerage in the
woodwork whether it be Deep State, Shadow Government, or even the 10th Fleet, answer ultimately to G.Washington's FIRST NAVY!
Finis.
...lol, noswaith da!
(y Cymraeg...G.W's First Navy carried within it representation of all the diaspora inhabiting the maritime industry of the day, not just the
Old Irish...Nature's Crowd spanned the full scope of those who rose to the fight on land and on sea. One word we all bore forth in
common "sovereignty" defined universally in the celtic language family as "self-ownership" and we fought not for the courts of Admiralty o
r Vice Admiralty! See DC&NTA portions not quoted here! Rather it was Locke's articulation of the old Brehon world view on Nature. See
the history of the First Naval Flag and the 'Appeal to Heaven')
Reference:
1. Period of Second Continental Congress: Document - Declaration on Causes and Necessity of Taking Arms. July 6 1775. (DC&NTA)
QUOTE: IF it was possible for men, who exercise their reason, to believe, that the Divine Author of our existence intended a part of
the human race to hold an absolute property in, and an unbounded power over others, marked out by his infinite goodness and wisdom,
as the objects of a legal domination never rightfully resistible, however severe and oppressive, the Inhabitants of these Colonies might at
least require from the Parliament of Great Britain some evidence, that his dreadful authority over them, has been granted to that body. Bu
t a reverence for our great Creator, principles of humanity, and the dictates of common sense, must convince all those who reflect upon
the subject, that government was instituted to promote the welfare of mankind, and ought to be administered for the attainment of that
end...

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-- June 15th 1775 George Washington was appointed as the Army's Commander.
-- June 23rd 1775 When George Washington departed Congress, he carried with him a copy of the Declaration on Causes and
Necessity of Taking Arms that Congress had adopted and that he was ordered to publish upon his arrival in Boston. Source: Founding
America: Documents from the Revolution to the Bill of Rights. Introduction and Notes by Jack N. Rakove.
2. Incident at Machias Maine. 11-12 June 1775. Enough was enough.
a. http://www.mainememory.net/artifact/19019/
b. http://thehistoryjunkie.com/battle-of-machias/
c. https://www.thoughtco.com/american-revolution-battle-of-machias-2361161
3. The First Navy Flag - Washington's Cruisers Flag
Via Col. Reed October 20, 1775.
- http://firstnavyflag.blogspot.com/
4. Poem. Crispus Attucks by John Boyle O'Reilly, with terminology notes by Cyrellys Geibhendach ua Dubhagain do Laconia
(Maine/NewHampshire/at Strawberry Banks) do Feara Maighe Fein. Clear Reference to Nature's Crowd in correct context.
https://thementalmilitia.net/2016/02/01/crispus-attucks-poem-by-john-boyle-oreilly/
5. (C10F) US Fleet Cyber Command(FCC)/US Tenth Fleet http://www.fcc.navy.mil/
6. CIA Officer David Steele on Hagmann Report: NWO & Shadow Gov Briefing https://youtu.be/rSG95_Wc0kU
7. George Washington Warns of the Illuminati - Handwritten Letter in National Archives
Nowvia Google Voice
8. Email & Reply Series: from Jack Sarfatti to Group w/reply:
On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 3:36 PM, Jack Sarfatti <jacksarfatti@hotmail.com> wrote:
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@realDonaldTrump 14 fires set simultaneously in N Cal ISIS Jan 2017 and ANTIFA agents?
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@ASavageNation ISIS directive Jan 2017 to set forest fires in US near populated areas.
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On Oct 9, 2017, at 2:02 PM, Jack Sarfatti <jacksarfatti@hotmail.com> wrote:
In aftermath of Las Vegas 58 dead, 500 wounded, 14 simultaneous fires destroying Northern
California suspected arson by ANTIFA-ISIS agents. ANTIFA threatened attack on Columbus Day. ISI
S in Jan 2017 told lone wolves in US to set forest fires near populated areas.
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